Helen at the centre of homophobic and Fat people Facebook post [Attacks Jasmine]

[Samm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buw8fJICMAAPSVd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buw8EqzIQAAbrnk.jpg

I see it all over Twitter :worry:

[Locke.]

:joker:

[Firewire]

Wouldn't class that as homophobia, just ignorance

[Liam-]

She has a point about JLS though :hehe: :joker:

[Samm]

btw it wasn't me who made the title I copied it of Twitter

[reece(:]

Helly Woo Woo http://i.imgur.com/qbmQd2Q.png

[Josy]

The reaching

[Firewire]

Helly Woo Woo http://i.imgur.com/qbmQd2Q.png

:joker:

[Cherie]

Helly Woo Woo http://i.imgur.com/qbmQd2Q.png

:laugh:

[Creggle]

Imagine the uproar if Ashleigh had been found to say something like this :joker:

It's more befitting of a teenager to come out with ridiculous statements like these, but I'm sure everyone will brush these comments aside because Helen is so 'misunderstood'.

[mrflibble]

They're ignorant and stupid, but not really homophobic or anti-fat (coming from someone who is fat and very pro-gay... and very anti-Helen :D ).

[Josy]

Imagine the uproar if Ashleigh had been found to say something like this :joker:

It's more befitting of a teenager to come out with ridiculous statements like these, but I'm sure everyone will brush these comments aside because Helen is so 'misunderstood'.

Yes they are being brushed aside so much the have been plastered all over the internet.

[Creggle]

Yes they are being brushed aside so much the have been plastered all over the internet.
By brushing aside I meant that fans of her will not take on board that she makes comments like these nor will they take notice of them. I'd be mortified if Ashleigh was revealed to say things like this. When Mark was bullying Pav, I was mortified with Ashleigh's reaction, yet people on here thought I was overreacting. With Helen, all of her faults are either brushed aside or seen as reasons to like her. It's a double standard and it seems like she can do no wrong to people that like her. :notimpressed:

[Northern Monkey]

I agree with the JLS bit,Apart from the bullet,That's abit strong.

[Josy]

By brushing aside I meant that fans of her will not take on board that she makes comments like these nor will they take notice of them. I'd be mortified if Ashleigh was revealed to say things like this. When Mark was bullying Pav, I was mortified with Ashleigh's reaction, yet people on here thought I was overreacting. With Helen, all of her faults are either brushed aside or seen as reasons to like her. It's a double standard and it seems like she can do no wrong to people that like her. :notimpressed:

This couldn't be further from the truth IMO, plenty of Helen fans have posted about her many flaws in previous threads.

[Beso]

someone needs to stamp on this cretin.

[Doogle]

She didn't lie tho

[Niamh.]

This couldn't be further from the truth IMO, plenty of Helen fans have posted about her many flaws in previous threads.

lol I just answered a post like this in another thread about Ashleigh fans :hehe:

[jet]

Helen in 2009, Helen in 2014 - still the same and will grow old the same, insulting and hurting a countless number of people along the way.

I truly can't understand how people can overlook her nastiness.

[Creggle]

This couldn't be further from the truth IMO, plenty of Helen fans have posted about her many flaws in previous threads.

Yet still champion her as the winner of the show. I can't see somebody taking on board all of those flaws and still believing somebody deserves any sort of success for essentially upsetting and bullying people for an entire summer. I can't imagine what she's like in the real world. :shocked:

[MrMinaj]

is this confirmed as being Helens account though ?

[jackc1806]

If you trawled through most people's accounts you'd find unsavoury stuff tbh

[Lostie!]

I'm not a Helen fan, and those posts definitely are out of order, but I'd say she's definitely not homophobic, considering her close friendship with Mark.

[chuff me dizzy]

Good effort, but major fail :idc::laugh3:

[Samm]

Good effort, but major fail :idc::laugh3:

hun I didn't even find the photos and it's not a fail since Twitter is all over it, try again

[MrWong]

Imagine the uproar if Ashleigh had been found to say something like this :joker:

It's more befitting of a teenager to come out with ridiculous statements like these, but I'm sure everyone will brush these comments aside because Helen is so 'misunderstood'.

Indeed.

There won't be much of an uproar with Helen because it's expected from the lairy, aggressive, gob****e.

[Jordan.]

drag the fatties

[LukeB]

evil woman! who the hell does she think she is

[karl100589]

This one Is the worst to me:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxNqjfCcAAgfkO.jpg

[MrWong]

:yuk: Vile woman.

[jessicadanielle]

Indeed.

There won't be much of an uproar with Helen because it's expected from the lairy, aggressive, gob****e.

Exactly! Like when Steven was questioned on BOTS about why it wasn't ok for Chris to take the 15k but it was ok for Mark to take it, and his response was "because you'd expect that sort of stuff from Mark".... ALL THE MORE REASON TO NOT ACCEPT THAT S**TTY BEHAVIOUR FROM THEM ANYMORE THEN :rant:

[Razor]

A vile person.

[arista]

Wouldn't class that as homophobia, just ignorance


Yes just a typical dig


out of date now

[RockBottom]

Yet still champion her as the winner of the show. I can't see somebody taking on board all of those flaws and still believing somebody deserves any sort of success for essentially upsetting and bullying people for an entire summer. I can't imagine what she's like in the real world. :shocked:

She got into a couple of arguments and she is a vile bully. Sorry, for such a vile bully she seems to be having the most fun in there.

HELEN TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[MrWong]

She got into a couple of arguments and she is a vile bully. Sorry, for such a vile bully she seems to be having the most fun in there.

HELEN TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

That's because as well as being a vile aggressive gob****e she also lacks a conscience.

[Pete.]

:joker:
umm

[Kazanne]

is this confirmed as being Helens account though ?

Probably not ,but it's good enough ammunition for some.

[armand.kay]

The second one should offend like half of her fans I don't know why they stick by her.

[LukeB]

Probably not ,but it's good enough ammunition for some.

look at the date :idc: 2009

[armand.kay]

Helly woo woo giving me cee cee tease tbqh.

[Ellen]

Amazing..... She starts getting more & more support in the final week and hey presto, old tweets/facebook (if true) posts are suddenly produced.

[Lostie!]

Imagine the uproar if Ashleigh had been found to say something like this :joker:

It's more befitting of a teenager to come out with ridiculous statements like these, but I'm sure everyone will brush these comments aside because Helen is so 'misunderstood'.

Why, does Ashleigh automatically get a harder time with the public? Because I've noticed the opposite. She's easily getting the most public support right now, and I've seen her actually getting an easier ride than others would after saying certain things (calling Helen "ugly", her aggressive comment about Christopher, for example).

Sure, she does get quite a bit of criticism, but there's a lot of undying support regardless too. I don't see this "Ashleigh gets a harder time" thing, personally.

I actually like Ashleigh more than Helen, before anyone tries to turn this post into to an Ashleigh fans vs Helen fans thing.

I mean, I'm not saying people would blindly make excuses if she said things like this, but I don't think she'd especially get it worse than the others either. It would annoy people regardless, I feel.

[Samm]

welp, and this has all been confirmed as real, I found this when I typed in #BBHelen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxQqNlIEAADSKN.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxWwFGCEAAkMDd.jpg

[Pete.]

Mouth just dropped at the Beddingfield comment. Gross

[Kazanne]

look at the date :idc: 2009

Yes FIVE years ago,what's your point,and do we know for sure this is hers?

[Samm]

"It's all going down in bromley x tonight 2 OAPs tied in a bit of fisty cuffs over a parkin spot!ha" http://i.imgur.com/UN5W340.png

[MrWong]

Exactly! Like when Steven was questioned on BOTS about why it wasn't ok for Chris to take the 15k but it was ok for Mark to take it, and his response was "because you'd expect that sort of stuff from Mark".... ALL THE MORE REASON TO NOT ACCEPT THAT S**TTY BEHAVIOUR FROM THEM ANYMORE THEN :rant:

Lord :facepalm:

Steven really is thick.

[Kazanne]

welp, and this has all been confirmed as real, I found this when I typed in #BBHelen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxQqNlIEAADSKN.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxWwFGCEAAkMDd.jpg

Bet you had a moment of euphoria when that dropped in your lap:joker::joker::joker: always nice when a plan comes together

[Pete.]

Bet you had a moment of euphoria when that dropped in your lap:joker::joker::joker: always nice when a plan comes together
Doesn't make the comments any better

[LukeB]

i think little mix deserve to look at this! jesy got bullied and she is supporting it!

[chuff me dizzy]

Probably not ,but it's good enough ammunition for some.

Have you seen all the dramatic threads opening since Bobknots thread on Ashleighs lack of support on FB ,even LAST WEEKS star headlines about Ryan Giggs, rattled muchly me thinks

[LukeB]

Doesn't make the comments any better

think the helen comments just confirmed she is a really nasty person and a aggressive troll

[Kazanne]

The second one should offend like half of her fans I don't know why they stick by her.

Because 1,it could be fake,2 it was in 2009,3 hardly homophobic she loved Mark,and 4 it's just desperation that someone has been trawling the net to find some dirt,if indeed it is dirt.

[Kazanne]

Have you seen all the dramatic threads opening since Bobknots thread on Ashleighs lack of support on FB ,even LAST WEEKS star headlines about Ryan Giggs, rattled muchly me thinks

I thought the Little Mix thing would send a message of panic through the twitters and Fb guys :joker::joker::joker:

[Pete.]

Have you seen all the dramatic threads opening since Bobknots thread on Ashleighs lack of support on FB ,even LAST WEEKS star headlines about Ryan Giggs, rattled muchly me thinks
An article which was created an hour ago.

[LukeB]

Because 1,it could be fake,2 it was in 2009,3 hardly homophobic she loved Mark,and 4 it's just desperation that someone has been trawling the net to find some dirt,if indeed it is dirt.

why would it be a fake in 2009 she wasn;t even in the spotlight :joker:

[Kazanne]

why would it be a fake in 2009 she wasn;t even in the spotlight :joker:

Anyone computer savvy can change a date:laugh:

[Samm]

hardly homophobic she loved Mark.

oh yes she's not homophobic at all since she likes a gay guy, that's like saying Justin Bieber isn't racist because he's friends with black people

[billy123]

The 5 year reach.

[MrWong]

Because 1,it could be fake,2 it was in 2009,3 hardly homophobic she loved Mark,and 4 it's just desperation that someone has been trawling the net to find some dirt,if indeed it is dirt.

So the date and being friends with a gay man cancels out her comments how?

[jet]

She's absolutely vile. If viewers, some on facebook etc support Helen then they support her behaviour and they support what she says. Her vileness is an intrinsic part of her and can't be separated for convenience.

[Liam-]

oh yes she's not homophobic at all since she likes a gay guy, that's like saying Justin Bieber isn't racist because he's friends with black people

That's right.. If she was homophobic, she wouldn't be able to stand being in the same room as a gay person, never mind be friendly with them, so she clearly isn't homophobic

[Firewire]

interesting that these were found just now and not 10 weeks ago...........

[Samm]

Ashleigh looking over this

https://31.media.tumblr.com/056b4485435dcbef01a8c2465b4dda8e/tumblr_n8hhd1616n1sbc6g5o1_400.gif

[smudgie]

I choose my winner on their time in the house, not what they did/didn't do many years ago.
That's what the game is about:joker:

[jet]

I choose my winner on their time in the house, not what they did/didn't do many years ago.
That's what the game is about:joker:

Do you support nastiness and bullying?

[Jordan.]

Ashleigh looking over this

https://31.media.tumblr.com/056b4485435dcbef01a8c2465b4dda8e/tumblr_n8hhd1616n1sbc6g5o1_400.gif

queen of everything

[M X]

Wow reading these are so entertaining just like her dickhead remarks in the house are too :sleep:

[Cold Sweat]

I knew Helen was a wrong 'un!

[Josy]

interesting that these were found just now and not 10 weeks ago...........

I know :laugh:

Jesus Christ.

Stretch Armstrong must have done the reaching for these they date back to about 5 years ago ffs.

[Achilles]

I don't understand how people can defend Helen with a clear conscience. She hates Irish people. Why doubt that fact when 2 of the people she has hated the most in that house from day one are Ashleigh and Christopher?
She hated Jale and called her a slug. Why? People with a conscience know the answer.
Helen is a disgusting vile bully. She should never have been on the show in the first place.

[ruiphillips]

ew she really adds nothing to this world but vileness.

[JTM45]

Sums her up really!
What a disgusting person she really is!!!!:yuk:

[LukeB]

Sums her up really!
What a disgusting person she really is!!!!:yuk:

helen is just i cant even describe the thing

[Denver]

Its funny how helens past is purposley being delved into. Are you scared what ashliegh past will bring up?

[Marsh.]

Helen at the centre

:joker:

Are we really dragging up stuff from 5 years ago?

[ruiphillips]

Its funny how helens past is purposley being delved into. Are you scared what ashliegh past will bring up?

He all now how messy Helen's past is and how she has changed. #bye

[ruiphillips]

:joker:

Are we really dragging up stuff from 5 years ago?

What does it matter if it's from the past, she still said those things. Hitler killed thousands of jews, but just because it was in the past we should forget about it?

#yourwayofthinkingisjust

#bye

[MrWong]

What does it matter if it's from the past, she still said those things. Hitler killed thousands of jews, but just because it was in the past we should forget about it?

#yourwayofthinkingisjust

#bye

You'll be accused of comparing Helen to Hitler.

Yes. It's got that bad :D

[Denver]

He all now how messy Helen's past is and how she has changed. #bye

Helens past has nothing to do with god dam anybody her past is her past nobody has a perfect past im judging her has she undertakes her journey in the house

[karl100589]

:joker:

Are we really dragging up stuff from 5 years ago?

So in your eyes we should forgive the behaviour of the Yewtree suspects because it happened 30 years ago?

[dyfed]

This one Is the worst to me:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxNqjfCcAAgfkO.jpg

OMG will she ever learn?? It brings to mind what one of the hm said about her,
She is the skid mark of society ...sad really.

[Denver]

OMG will she ever learn?? It brings to mind what one of the hm said about her,
She is the skid mark of society ...sad really.

Is that even her twitter?

[abhorson]

This one Is the worst to me:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxNqjfCcAAgfkO.jpg

Is any more proof needed. Vile human.

[Achilles]

OMG will she ever learn?? It brings to mind what one of the hm said about her,
She is the skid mark of society ...sad really.

Why did Helen hate and bully Christopher? Why does she hate Ashleigh?

[MrWong]

Helens past has nothing to do with god dam anybody her past is her past nobody has a perfect past im judging her has she undertakes her journey in the house

Her past matches her current.

[Robodog]

Talk about witch hunting!

Reminds me of when that pediatrician (child doctor) got beaten up in his home because a gang of people thought the sign outside said 'paedophile'

Mob mentality on the rampage.

[abhorson]

Its funny how helens past is purposley being delved into. Are you scared what ashliegh past will bring up?

The past just adds to recent times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

shakes head at the nasty tweets

and those who support her

[Marsh.]

So in your eyes we should forgive the behaviour of the Yewtree suspects because it happened 30 years ago?

:joker: The reaching. We've had Hitler and now Yewtree.

Someone being sexually abused as a child is erm...... a HUGE difference to some childish petty, inconsequential comments made by someone on their Facebook 5 years ago.

If you think either of these are remotely similar then I can't help you.

[Marsh.]

What does it matter if it's from the past, she still said those things. Hitler killed thousands of jews, but just because it was in the past we should forget about it?

#yourwayofthinkingisjust

#bye

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Because Hitler killing thousands of jews is exactly the same as a couple of childish comments made on social media. Shall we remember all the stupid comments made on social media and make them relevant when they aren't?

#comebackwhenyouvefoundlogic

[Marsh.]

You'll be accused of comparing Helen to Hitler.

Yes. It's got that bad :D

Except they are. That's how bad it is. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She does look germanic

[abhorson]

She does look germanic

:joker::joker:

Just needs that little tache.

[smudgie]

Do you support nastiness and bullying?

Not particularly..so this year I am scraping the barrel..Pav to win.
Helen has a nasty streak, but it is no worse than the one Ashleigh has.
Not sure how you draw a line between them.
Chris is quite slyly nasty as well.
So many housemates not to take to this year.:sleep:

[dyfed]

Helens past has nothing to do with god dam anybody her past is her past nobody has a perfect past im judging her has she undertakes her journey in the house

Try telling that to man united fans !!!! :joker:

[Jamezall]

Wouldn't class that as homophobia, just ignorance

Using a term for gay as a derogatory insult - it may not be blatant but I would still class it as 'casual' homophobia.
As a society we no longer deem casual racism appropriate (thank God), why should homophobia be any less of an issue in 2014?

[MB.]

Reminds me of when that pediatrician (child doctor) got beaten up in his home because a gang of people thought the sign outside said 'paedophile'

What? This is nothing like that, just as this is nothing to do with the Holocaust

Helen made some stupid, possibly offensive posts on social media (which can't be misinterpreted, as with your example) but also aren't all that damaging. I remember seeing fairly similar tweets that Danielle posted, but nobody was really up in arms about those

I don't really know what to think with this forum any more...

[Achilles]

Its funny how helens past is purposley being delved into. Are you scared what ashliegh past will bring up?

http://instagram.com/missderry2013

When I look through her instagram I see the same lovely person I been watching in the house for the past 2 months. I WATCH UPLOADS and not just the highlights show. What do you see?

Helen won't like seeing the f ****** Dalai Lama quote will she

[MB.]

Its funny how helens past is purposley being delved into. Are you scared what ashliegh past will bring up?

They're out for the public to see. Why shouldn't they be 'delved into'? And the reason that nothing similar that Ashleigh may have written is being posted is because it doesn't exist. Surprise surprise, perhaps Ashleigh may just be a nicer person than Helen

[Creggle]

http://instagram.com/missderry2013

Woo, thank you, hadn't seen this. :cheer2:

Tell you what though, not to be nasty but I couldn't help but observe her fella, he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight, good on him. :joker:

[Achilles]

Woo, thank you, hadn't seen this. :cheer2:

Tell you what though, not to be nasty but I couldn't help but observe her fella, he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight, good on him. :joker:

Or maybe Ashleigh is attracted to the person inside and doesn't judge on looks? :shrug:

[MB.]

...or maybe she's just sexually attracted to him? He's not a bad looking guy, after all

[Achilles]

...or maybe she's just sexually attracted to him? He's not a bad looking guy, after all

Ashleigh's not that bad looking either :hehe:

[Creggle]

Or maybe Ashleigh is attracted to the person inside and doesn't judge on looks? :shrug:

I wasn't dissing his looks, he looks like an average fella and like I said fair play to him. :idc:

It's just not often you see supermodels with normal guys, it's abit of banter, so think before you try and call somebody up on something. :sleep:

[MB.]

I wasn't dissing his looks

"he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight"

You kinda were...

[Creggle]

"he must be the worlds nicest guy or hung like a horse to punch so far above his weight"

You kinda were...

It's a joke.

But was that an insult on his looks or a compliment on Ashleighs? From the outside looking in he has done, whichever angle you approach it from.

[Achilles]

I wasn't dissing his looks, he looks like an average fella and like I said fair play to him. :idc:

It's just not often you see supermodels with normal guys, it's abit of banter, so think before you try and call somebody up on something. :sleep:

You missed my point. The fact that she is with a normal guy shows she isn't obsessed with what people look like and is more interested in what people are like on the inside. This works with friends as well as lovers or partners.

[Creggle]

You missed my point. The fact that she is with a normal guy shows she isn't obsessed with what people look like and is more interested in what people are like on the inside. This works with friends as well as lovers or partners.

Bad use of that :shrug: smiley then mate, and bad comprehension on understanding the use of mine, you'd have to be quite the twat to say something like I did in a serious manner. Though I doubt I'll be forgetting any time soon that you perceived it that way. :shrug:

Looks aren't important in any kind of relationship and nor should they be.

[AarynGriesfan]

This one Is the worst to me:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuxNqjfCcAAgfkO.jpg

oh yikes this is truly an awful thing to say!

[Firewire]

Using a term for gay as a derogatory insult - it may not be blatant but I would still class it as 'casual' homophobia.
As a society we no longer deem casual racism appropriate (thank God), why should homophobia be any less of an issue in 2014?

I'm not offended by it, most other gay people shouldn't be offended by it. She should use another word but she's clearly not homophobic since she was close to mark in the house...

[Achilles]

oh yikes this is truly an awful thing to say!

Why do you think she bullied Christopher? Why does she hate Ashleigh so much? Remember when she mocked her accent?

[Achilles]

I'm not offended by it, most other gay people shouldn't be offended by it. She should use another word but she's clearly not homophobic since she was close to mark in the house...

Mark was a nasty bitch. That can override any prejudice when a person chooses to be friends with nasty people like herself.

[Creggle]

Don't think Helen has a prejudice against the Irish tbh, she'd have to be as shallow as me to ever think like that, right?

Don't think she actually homes in on people who are nasty and instantly befriends them either, she's not that single minded.

[fitz2k2]

I'm not a Helen fan, and those posts definitely are out of order, but I'd say she's definitely not homophobic, considering her close friendship with Mark.

why would she be that way where millions of people watch her on big brother?If she said anything like that on T.V all hell will break loose. She knows that and def wouldn't ruin the chance of leaving the house.

[AarynGriesfan]

Why do you think she bullied Christopher? Why does she hate Ashleigh so much? Remember when she mocked her accent?

I never realy thought about it that way but it makes sense now. I just thought she was an awful person to everyone. And I just recently found out that Christopher was irish! :laugh:

[Achilles]

I never realy thought about it that way but it makes sense now. I just thought she was an awful person to everyone. And I just recently found out that Christopher was irish! :laugh:

She hated Jale and called her a slug.

[Achilles]

Don't think Helen has a prejudice against the Irish tbh, she'd have to be as shallow as me to ever think like that, right?

Don't think she actually homes in on people who are nasty and instantly befriends them either, she's not that single minded.

She said another Irish dog and called Ireland incest ville. If that's not prejudiced against Irish people what is?
She does be friends with nasty people and doesn't like "mother Theresa" types. She hated Jale until Jale started to show her nasty side. She hated Kimberly until Kimberly started to show her nasty side. She hated Pav until he started to show his nasty side. To get into Helen's gang, you need to show a nasty side. If you don't you are the target of the nasty gang. She is a bully and a horrible person. She maintains that she is nice and loyal to her friends etc. Yeah, to her nasty friends, not to people in general. That is why she hates charity and nice people. She loved Steven because Steven was the ultimate nasty scumbag. When Marlon was kicked out of the nasty gang she wasn't bothered because he was never as nasty as the others to begin with. The closest people to her are the ones who are the most nasty. The ones she hates are the ones who are nice, or "boring" as she and her gang refer to them.

[Creggle]

She said another Irish dog and called Ireland incest ville. If that's not prejudiced against Irish people what is?
She does be friends with nasty people and doesn't like "mother Theresa" types. She hated Jale until Jale started to show her nasty side. She hated Kimberly until Kimberly started to show her nasty side. She hated Pav until he started to show his nasty side. To get into Helen's gang, you need to show a nasty side. If you don't you are the target of the nasty gang. She is a bully and a horrible person. She maintains that she is nice and loyal to her friends etc. Yeah, to her nasty friends, not to people in general. That is why she hates charity and nice people. She loved Steven because Steven was the ultimate nasty scumbag. When Marlon was kicked out of the nasty gang she wasn't bothered because he was never as nasty as the others to begin with. The closest people to her are the ones who are the most nasty. The ones she hates are the ones who are nice, or "boring" as she and her gang refer to them.

Ash & Winston aren't nasty people, they're normal in that regard. I won't spin it like they are saints because they aren't, but they're nothing like Helen. Kimbot and Jale I'll agree with because they joined her on a few of her crusades, but Ash and Winston have never helped her bully someone, they just laugh AT how angry and OTT she gets, not at the fact she's being nasty to someone.

[lostalex]

wow, she sounds like every single teenager ever.

[Ammi]

..wow it's hard to know where to start with this or even understand it..this is Twitter stuff from a while ago/years ago right if I'm understanding it..?...


..ok, well it's not really a secret that I'm no Helen fan for various reasons but it's kind of important not to get lost in it all as well...I remember when Alex Rose was in the house..I think she was a similar age to Ashleigh, 18/19yrs..?..and toward the final it started to 'heat up' as these things always do and there was stuff that non Alex supporters were posting about things she had done when she was 14yrs old/stuff that made her look bad as a person and I know it happens but it's something I personally think is wrong..we have to either 'bring it all into the house' and equally for every housemate or only judge with the time in there..ok I know some things are hard to overlook and we shouldn't overlook them either because they're far too serious and homophobia/xenophobia and racism (which is also being said on DS because of some tweets..)...are some of these things and these tweets look quite damning...and ok she wasn't 14yrs old when she made them either but there is no 'age' where we can't do or say something wrong and dumb in our life, it's just that for Helen and BB housemates in general..the nature of what they've put themselves out there for by going into the house means more that things will 'come back to haunt them' type thing....but then if they had lived these perfect lives would they ever be going into the house..?..


..anyway, I think it's also important here to not only look at what the words are but at the person who said those words and the terminology she uses in a lot of things she says and what is just 'normal' for her... and yes that terminology insults and offends and yes it's wrong but for some things, I don't believe there is any thought or the thought there should be behind those words...I don't think there was any homophobic/xenophobic intent etc...it's just what Helen does/how she acts/reacts etc and yeah how she attacks as well if something has annoyed her and these words and phrases are just really nothing more or less than we've heard all through the series and for me don't show her up or as the trendy phrase is..'show her true colours' any more or any less than we've seen Helen throughout...Helen has her own terminology, it is a problem for her, it is unacceptable and she does have to learn to filter..if she had said these same words in the house then I have no doubt an official warning or a possible ejection even may have occurred but it's only for a few months in her life when she's going to be 'policed' like that so her life is never going to go well and she's always going to feel hostility from people unless she learns self policing..whether she'll ever do that, none of us will know...that is and will always be a big issue for her but is she racist/homophobic/xenophobic etc...?..no, I don't think that she is at all..I really don't....she just has no awareness of any boundaries of behaviour....

[coffee]

Helly Woo Woo http://i.imgur.com/qbmQd2Q.png

hahahahahhhahaha

[Beso]

id have her booted out for these comments...get a grip bb.

[FlippingEck]

People need to get a grip and find something to do... Good lord.. trolling 5 years back to silly comments made on twitter??? get out more... get a life!
I am sure we have all said something that others find offensive.. especially in social media..

[Ellen]

id have her booted out for these comments...get a grip bb.

If she did say these comments (and i question their authenticity) they were said years ago. Did she make these comments in BB house? NO.

[Beso]

If she did say these comments (and i question their authenticity) they were said years ago. Did she make these comments in BB house? NO.

not those ones no..plenty other nasty personal attacks, yes.

[FlippingEck]

If she did say these comments (and i question their authenticity) they were said years ago. Did she make these comments in BB house? NO.

Ellen why let the simple matter of facts stop an excuse for yet more Helen bashing... it's really pathetic. The way I see it, they must be really worried about Helen winning if they have to drag all this rubbish up!!! :shrug:

[Vanessa]

I think helen must be a real threat, if all these threads keep popping out. :hehe:

[Jake.]

The outrage if Ashleigh posted any of these..

[Kizzy]

:joker: unbelievable... as a slur campaign that's pretty poor, she's obv just bitching about someone she knows and 'queer' is a Lancashire phrase lots say it.

[Samm]

oop
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu2HccHIYAAtw_P.jpg

[MrWong]

Except they are. That's how bad it is. :joker:

It was about 'time' being irrelevant.

What kind of ****wit would compare someone who committed mass genocide to a lairy, aggressive, gob****e off the telly?

[JoshBB]

Irrelevant. This is 5 years old.

[MB.]

Irrelevant. This is 5 years old.

The picture just posted is from two years ago...

[JoshBB]

The picture just posted is from two years ago...

Still quite irrelevant. I've seen people on TiBB say worse about housemates though.

[T*]

Irrelevant. This is 5 years old.

Doesn't mean she still doesn't think that way.

[JoshBB]

Doesn't mean she still doesn't think that way.

People change.

[Kizzy]

No... not helen :laugh:

[MrWong]

The outrage if Ashleigh posted any of these..

:hehe:

[MrWong]

People change.

There's hardly any difference between the tweets and how she is now :joker:

[Achilles]

Has the comment about wanting the guy to get a terminal illness been posted yet?

[Jack_]

Doesn't mean she still doesn't think that way.

Who cares how she thinks? It's about how she acts in the house not what her opinions are

Outside of the house sure how disgusting, but this is a TV show about what goes on inside a house, there's no reason to drag up things about housemates real lives

[sungrass]

By brushing aside I meant that fans of her will not take on board that she makes comments like these nor will they take notice of them. I'd be mortified if Ashleigh was revealed to say things like this. When Mark was bullying Pav, I was mortified with Ashleigh's reaction, yet people on here thought I was overreacting. With Helen, all of her faults are either brushed aside or seen as reasons to like her. It's a double standard and it seems like she can do no wrong to people that like her. :notimpressed:

it was 5 years ago

Helen has the emotional maturity now of a 15 year old
that would have made her 10.

let it go. she was not having a go at someone for being gay

and the world is horrible to fat people - coming from a fat person

[Dollface]

She's just... vile :notimpressed:

[Dollface]

People change.

Wishful thinking.. :umm2:

[Kazanne]

I think helen must be a real threat, if all these threads keep popping out. :hehe:

Yes ,funny how this was bumped as soon as the dirt was dished on Ashliegh:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Kazanne]

Wishful thinking.. :umm2:

Are you really saying they don't change?

[Dollface]

Are you really saying they don't change?

Some people do, but surely we've all seen that Helen was and still is a horrid person. If she can't change in an environment like BB, then she's never going to change :shrug:

[Kazanne]

Still quite irrelevant. I've seen people on TiBB say worse about housemates though.

:thumbs:Observant Josh :wavey:

[Marsh.]

It was about 'time' being irrelevant.

What kind of ****wit would compare someone who committed mass genocide to a lairy, aggressive, gob****e off the telly?

No, I said what a BB housemate has done in the past is irrelevant to their time in the show and what they've done on our TV screens.

That's got sod all to do with forgetting child abuse and mass genocide.

So quote the ****wits bringing Hitler and Yewtree into a discussion it doesn't belong.

[Kazanne]

Some people do, but surely we've all seen that Helen was and still is a horrid person. If she can't change in an environment like BB, then she's never going to change :shrug:

But she is changing:shrug: she's not the Helen that she was to start with,BB has shown her some of the errors of her ways,Of course she can change and has said she wants to,give the girl a break:nono:

[MrWong]

Who cares how she thinks? It's about how she acts in the house not what her opinions are

Outside of the house sure how disgusting, but this is a TV show about what goes on inside a house, there's no reason to drag up things about housemates real lives

She acts exactly like how her tweets come across though.

[MrWong]

No, I said what a BB housemate has done in the past is irrelevant to their time in the show and what they've done on our TV screens.

That's got sod all to do with forgetting child abuse and mass genocide.

So quote the ****wits bringing Hitler and Yewtree into a discussion it doesn't belong.

She's exactly like her tweets.