Question for Helen's fans

[EdemMusic]

Helen would not give £1000 (which was given to her in the first place) to charity even when she would have £3000 (that someone else gave to her). Why should someone of such character win Big Brother?

[Kazanne]

Helen would not give £1000 (which was given to her in the first place) to charity even when she would have £3000 (that someone else gave to her). Why should someone of such character win Big Brother?

:joker::joker::joker: We don't know what she would do

[billy123]

Do you give a third of your wages to charity?

[Creggle]

Because she'd been entertaining I guess. That's what I like to think anyway, they can't like her as a person it's only fair we give her fans the benefit of the doubt.

I wouldnt give a third of my money to charity.
Do you give a third of your wages to charity?

Not the same, 8 x 3000 left them with 1000 left which they can't split equally, so Pav suggested they had may as well just give it to a charity.

[chuff me dizzy]

What she choses to spend HER money on is HER business, can you now please tell us what everyone else is going to spend it on ,or is this just a thread to attack Helen in ?

[Marsh.]

Why should it go to charity?

That was to do with the hypothetical extra 25k which they've now lost. We don't know what she'd do with 100k.

[EdemMusic]

Because she'd been entertaining I guess. That's what I like to think anyway, they can't like her as a person it's only fair we give her fans the benefit of the doubt.



Not the same, 8 x 3000 left them with 1000 left which they can't split equally, so Pav suggested they had may as well just give it to a charity.


Being vile to other people, bullying and ridiculing them is not entertainment. If you find that entertaining then you need a good psychiatrist

[Jack_]

Who gives a crap what they do with the money? I think it's bad she made the £1k charity comment too but this show (sadly) isn't about the money and what they plan to spend it on isn't what should determine the winner, who's contributed to the show the most over the summer should

[Creggle]

Being vile to other people, bullying and ridiculing them is not entertainment. If you find that entertaining then you need a good psychiatrist

I don't :shrug: I'm giving reasoning as to why she has fans, and trying to defend their decision.

[billy123]

That makes you a bad person and undeserving of winning a show like Big Brother. Why would the public vote for someone with such bad character to win? Why should i waste my money to vote for someone so stingy. Morever, the £1000 was not a third of her money, it was leftover of the divided £25,000 if they eventually won the money and the pact they made still stood.and who the **** are you to judge me a bad person.

[EdemMusic]

What she choses to spend HER money on is HER business, can you now please tell us what everyone else is going to spend it on ,or is this just a thread to attack Helen in ?

It wasnt HER money, the £3000 was her money, the £1000 which Pav suggested to be given to charity was leftover of the £25000 after it was divided between the eight housemates.

[Pete.]

the comment about charity was bad tho

[MrWong]

Helen would not give £1000 (which was given to her in the first place) to charity even when she would have £3000 (that someone else gave to her). Why should someone of such character win Big Brother?

She wouldn't give her share of the 1000 grand actually.

Which was £125. Tight cow.

[Liam-]

I wouldn't give any of my winnings, real or theoretical, to charity either, there's too many important things within my family that the money could go towards to just give it away

[Mrjrb2014]

the comment about charity was bad tho

helen is just all bad...its cringy, people trying to find the good in her(actually seems like there is none) or make excuses for her continued vileness(entertainment) if people find her entertaining that says alot

[Marsh.]

helen is just all bad...its cringy, people trying to find the good in her(actually seems like there is none) or make excuses for her continued vileness(entertainment) if people find her entertaining that says alot

It's "cringy" when people try to find fault with every single thing she does.

[chuff me dizzy]

If you cannot even give leftovers to the poor and needy then that makes you a bad person

IF you had bothered to even listen ,she also said "I already give lots to charity"but you chose to not hear that part ? at the end of the day, her money, her choice

[MrWong]

It's "cringy" when people try to find fault with every single thing she does.

Only the ***** things tbh.

[Mrjrb2014]

Only the ***** things tbh.

which she seems to do 99% of the time

[Pete.]

IF you had bothered to even listen ,she also said "I already give lots to charity"but you chose to not hear that part ? at the end of the day, her money, her choice
In that moment it was about the group giving £1000 to charity not just Helen but she openly said she didn't want to

[chuff me dizzy]

In that moment it was about the group giving £1000 to charity not just Helen but she openly said she didn't want to

THEN said what I said above

[Marsh.]

Only the ***** things tbh.

No. Every single thing she says or does is dissected to the smallest degree. More so than any other housemate.

[reece(:]

But she's using the money to foster? Which is just as good a cause.

[Pete.]

THEN said what I said above
Great but she basically shouted down the group not to give money charity all the same

[serensilver]

Who here gives a third of their wages to charity? :shrug:

The people who run charities are on more money than you and me :nono: if the money was donated the needy wouldn't have got it anyway.

But if you wouldn't give a third of your wages to charity ( like what some of you think Helen should do, regardless of whether she had "earned it") You shouldn't judge really? :shrug:

[EdemMusic]

IF you had bothered to even listen ,she also said "I already give lots to charity"but you chose to not hear that part ? at the end of the day, her money, her choice

For the tenth millionth time, It wasnt her money!!!!!! Just like Helen, her fans never listen. Wow

[EdemMusic]

Who here gives a third of their wages to charity? :shrug:

The people who run charities are on more money than you and me :nono: if the money was donated the needy wouldn't have got it anyway.

But if you wouldn't give a third of your wages to charity ( like what some of you think Helen should do, regardless of whether she had "earned it") You shouldn't judge really? :shrug:

A third of their wages??? IT WASNT HER MONEY!!!!

[billy123]

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[jessicadanielle]

:laugh: this third of their wages stuff people are going on about is completely irrelevant! Somebody was agreeing to GIVE her 3k. Pav suggested that they all donate their share of the remaining 1k to charity, which amounts to £125 as somebody else posted. That is around 4% of the 3k they were being given, NOT a third. HELEN WASN'T BEING ASKED TO GIVE A WHOLE GRAND OF HER OWN TO CHARITY.

Considering they were meant to be given 3k by the winner for nothing, it is pretty ludicrous that Helen objected so much to giving 4% of that to charity.

Plus, money you have been given by someone from a TV show isn't comparable to wages that you earn for your livelihood anyway.

[Creggle]

:laugh: this third of their wages stuff people are going on about is completely irrelevant! Somebody was agreeing to GIVE her 3k. Pav suggested that they all donate their share of the remaining 1k to charity, which amounts to £125 as somebody else posted. That is around 4% of the 3k they were being given, NOT a third. HELEN WASN'T BEING ASKED TO GIVE A WHOLE GRAND OF HER OWN TO CHARITY.

Considering they were meant to be given 3k by the winner for nothing, it is pretty ludicrous that Helen objected so much to giving 4% of that to charity.

Plus, money you have been given by someone from a TV show isn't comparable to wages that you earn for your livelihood anyway.

Stop talking sense.

[MrWong]

No. Every single thing she says or does is dissected to the smallest degree. More so than any other housemate.

I've seen zero threads made about Helen's hair. Or posts about her calves. Or similar pointless ****e.

The same can't be said for Ashleigh.

[Kazanne]

THEN said what I said above

She wants it to foster kids doesn't she? that's admirable in itself,now wait for the arrows to fly.

[Kazanne]

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[MrWong]

:laugh: this third of their wages stuff people are going on about is completely irrelevant! Somebody was agreeing to GIVE her 3k. Pav suggested that they all donate their share of the remaining 1k to charity, which amounts to £125 as somebody else posted. That is around 4% of the 3k they were being given, NOT a third. HELEN WASN'T BEING ASKED TO GIVE A WHOLE GRAND OF HER OWN TO CHARITY.

Considering they were meant to be given 3k by the winner for nothing, it is pretty ludicrous that Helen objected so much to giving 4% of that to charity.

Plus, money you have been given by someone from a TV show isn't comparable to wages that you earn for your livelihood anyway.

Well it had to be twisted somehow to make Helen look good/better. :D

[kistar]

I am not a fan of Helen but to be honest I wouldn't give 1k of my 3k gift to charity either , like who would?

[chuff me dizzy]

Great but she basically shouted down the group not to give money charity all the same

Her opinion ,and she's every right to it,she's REAL she's honest ,she doesn't need to make herself look like Mother Theresa ,she's happy with who she is,and fair play to her

[joeysteele]

The excess prize money would have been able to have divided equally between them so really there was no reason to suggest giving any to charity.

Helen did say later on that she would rather give to a charity she wanted to herself.

Now, I have no idea as to whether she would have done or not but I saw no reason to suggest a charity anyway with the money being able to be equally divided anyway.

It seemed mean of her and also rather petty but there are people sitting with millions who could give to charities and don't.
What it shows is she wouldn't go along with someone just for the popular option, that may well make her greedy or honest or both,I go for both.

Neither are the crime of the century however.

[MrWong]

She wants it to foster kids doesn't she? that's admirable in itself,now wait for the arrows to fly.

She does ..... right after she blows 3 grand getting **** faced in Ibiza :D

[Liam-]

She does ..... right after she blows 3 grand getting **** faced in Ibiza :D

It's a persons natural right to do as one pleases with their money, if she wants to go get drunk in Ibiza after being stuck inside a house for 10 weeks, so be it, it doesn't effect who she is as a person nor does it effect her genuine desire and ability to foster kids

[Marsh.]

I've seen zero threads made about Helen's hair. Or posts about her calves. Or similar pointless ****e.

The same can't be said for Ashleigh.

Which shows you what type of conversation that girl sparks. About her looks and nothing else.

When I said everything is dissected, I meant their behaviour and every last conversation they have.

[kistar]

Why do you need money to foster children? You get paid to do it , as far as I'm aware you don't have to buy children to foster ?

[Tip]

Yeah you get paid for it and get tax allowance.
Nobody needs £100 grand to apply to foster.

[jessicadanielle]

Well it had to be twisted somehow to make Helen look good/better. :D

Not even die hard Helen fans can twist the maths! :laugh:

This forum brings out the nerd in me...

[chuff me dizzy]

I am not a fan of Helen but to be honest I wouldn't give 1k of my 3k gift to charity either , like who would?

NO ONE would ,they can say they would but when push came to shove would they hellaslike

[Liam-]

Yeah you get paid for it and get tax allowance.
Nobody needs £100 grand to apply to foster.

No you dont need a grand to apply for fostering, but the grand would help with the keeping of the kids, considering she's already got a son herself

[kistar]

If she has been a sex worker and has anger management issues she won't be able to foster a puppy let alone a child surely , all the social workers need to do is study big brother footage and it will be a no I think you will find,

[kistar]

No you dont need a grand to apply for fostering, but the grand would help with the keeping of the kids, considering she's already got a son herself

You get paid up to £450 a week?

[Tip]

No you dont need a grand to apply for fostering, but the grand would help with the keeping of the kids, considering she's already got a son herself

You get around £200 quid a week.

Not saying that extra money wouldn't help, but I wouldn't want people to be put off fostering just because misinformation means they mistakenly think it has to cost them anything.

[Marsh.]

Why do you need money to foster children? You get paid to do it , as far as I'm aware you don't have to buy children to foster ?

No one said she would. But not giving £125 doesn't make her a bad person if she has hopes to foster children.

[Tip]

NO ONE would ,they can say they would but when push came to shove would they hellaslike


Of course a rare few would - (RIP Steven Sutton)
Would be nice if BB occasionally had a few of those in that are genuine for a change.

[kistar]

You get around £200 quid a week.

Not saying that extra money wouldn't help, but I wouldn't want people to be put off fostering just because misinformation means they mistakenly think it has to cost them anything.

You obviously didnt watch the recent series on foster children it's upwards from £450 each child.

[Tip]

Actually it's not that from where I am from - but yeah I didn't watch the recent series and it does very from area to area. Fair enough :)

[jessicadanielle]

No one said she would. But not giving £125 doesn't make her a bad person if she has hopes to foster children.

I wouldn't say she's a bad person for this one decision, but it was a pretty s***ty thing to say, and she said it with such outrage! Like how dare Pav suggest that she give £125 of her free money to charity when she's been housed with free food, shelter and safety for 9 weeks...

[Kazanne]

Why do you need money to foster children? You get paid to do it , as far as I'm aware you don't have to buy children to foster ?

Well who knows ,she may want to alter or improve her home,fostering is well paid but it doesn't cover major stuff.

[EdemMusic]

She wants it to foster kids doesn't she? that's admirable in itself,now wait for the arrows to fly.

She didnt say that, stop putting words in her mouth

[EdemMusic]

Well who knows ,she may want to alter or improve her home,fostering is well paid but it doesn't cover major stuff.


You dont know that

[Kazanne]

I wouldn't say she's a bad person for this one decision, but it was a pretty s***ty thing to say, and she said it with such outrage! Like how dare Pav suggest that she give £125 of her free money to charity when she's been housed with free food, shelter and safety for 9 weeks...

Like she said ,she wanted to give it to a charity of her OWN choice and she already gives to various ones,so I don't see the problem.:shrug:

[Kazanne]

You dont know that

I didn't say I did,:shrug: I said,SHE MAY WANT TO alter her home resize or something.

[jessicadanielle]

Like she said ,she wanted to give it to a charity of her OWN choice and she already gives to various ones,so I don't see the problem.:shrug:

Yeah so she could have just given her £125 to her chosen charity...

If I was given £3125, I'd take that as the perfect opportunity to give a proportion to charity. Particularly if that proportion were 4%.

[MrWong]

Which shows you what type of conversation that girl sparks. About her looks and nothing else.

When I said everything is dissected, I meant their behaviour and every last conversation they have.

The conversation as you call it sinks to desperate and petty levels because every other subject has been exhausted. Including her behaviour.

It shows the depths people will sink to in order to bad mouth Ashleigh.

Unless you can find a thread about Helen's hair and undefined ****ing calves then your statement that "Every single thing she says or does is dissected to the smallest degree. More so than any other housemate." isn't correct at all.

[chuff me dizzy]

I didn't say I did,:shrug: I said,SHE MAY WANT TO alter her home resize or something.

A friend of mine fosters, she had to have lots down to her house before she was allowed, safety features etc

[Tip]

I foster and I didn't have to have anything special done at all.

[Kazanne]

I foster and I didn't have to have anything special done at all.

Perhaps your home is suitable then,I know for a fact,there are several things that have to pass or should in your home before you can foster,the one Chuff mentioned is also a biggy.

[Tip]

I'd hate for anybody to be put off from applying to be a foster carer when children really need them, due to misinformation and exaggeration just to try and big up some tv show contestant.

Of course your house would have to be clean and child safe, and if you already have children there it's likely to be.

If you are looking to foster children with special needs then of course there may be special requirements but you could also get financial assistance with those.

[bots]

Great but she basically shouted down the group not to give money charity all the same

She voiced her opinion and it was accepted. At least she made her feelings clear at the time the "pact" was agreed.

I think Ash, Winston, Christopher etc are all big enough boys to be able to persuade Helen otherwise if they so wished - only the 2 muttering people complained as they moved off to another room.

Of all the things Helen has done in the house and been criticised for, this is scraping the barrel

[Christmas time]

And why should someone who disowns her friends (danneille & toya) and votes to evict her friend (Christmas) win... she shouldn't. ... CHRISTMAS SHOULD. ...

VOTE CLEVER VOTE CHRISTOPHER

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[EdemMusic]

It's a persons natural right to do as one pleases with their money, if she wants to go get drunk in Ibiza after being stuck inside a house for 10 weeks, so be it, it doesn't effect who she is as a person nor does it effect her genuine desire and ability to foster kids


It was not her money

[Marsh.]

Unless you can find a thread about Helen's hair and undefined ****ing calves then your statement that "Every single thing she says or does is dissected to the smallest degree. More so than any other housemate." isn't correct at all.

It is and always will be correct. I haven't seen these threads about Ashleigh's calves. But every word Helen says, every thing she does is mentioned/analysed.

[Miranda123]

Helen would not give £1000 (which was given to her in the first place) to charity even when she would have £3000 (that someone else gave to her). Why should someone of such character win Big Brother?

I cant stomach people who think she is wrong here

why the f..k should she??

charity begins at home, she has a kid to look after

you think she should give it to some left wing bull**** charity who spend the majority of the money they get on paperclips and directors fees and fu.k all to the actual people who need it

how do you know that she wouldnt help people she knows and loves??

I cant stand bleeding heart liberals pretending to give a sh.t about those less fortunate and insisting that a single Mum running a business in Bolton doesnt need some charity?
If she'd had some charity a few years ago maybe she wouldnt have had to sleep with the ugliest footballer since Matt Le Tissier

[Miranda123]

A friend of mine fosters, she had to have lots down to her house before she was allowed, safety features etc

not really, just the usual things with little ones, stair gates, you have to have a room and their own cot/bed for them but apart from that, nothing special

I think Helen seems very loving and would make a great foster parent, as for her swearing, Im sure she would tone it down in front of kids, my cousin who does it swears quite a lot but not in front of the kids

[MrWong]

It is and always will be correct. I haven't seen these threads about Ashleigh's calves. But every word Helen says, every thing she does is mentioned/analysed.

Same as Ashleigh. So much so that it moved onto her calves and roots.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would keep all the money then sponsor each housemate a goat, in Botswana