Do u feel sorry for Hellen

[dyfed]

Tonight she broke down after the judge Judy comments,if she can't handle what has been said in there,how on earth is she going to manage with what is waiting for her on the outside.

I hope she looks back and watches BB and learns from it,I feel her life is going to be so much harder after BB,I cant understand why she put herself and family through this,doesn't she think they have suffered enough ,is her wanting to be "FAMOUS". That important.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You reap what you sow

[Marsh.]

I don't feel sorry for her generally. But in terms of that farce of a trial task then I do.

She was right, the constant need to clarify that Helen is solely to blame is bollocks. It's untrue. She's caused a lot of sh*t in that house but to suggest the current divide is down to her is rubbish.

But BB wanted more manufactured drama rather than a fun final week and Judi James wanted more airtime so what can you do? :shrug:

[Achilles]

I don't feel sorry for bullies I feel sorry for the victims of bullying.

[Sophiee]

not at all because she's brought it all on herself.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The law of the land has spoken and as law abiding citizens we abide by the decisions of the courts


otherwise its chaos

[ruiphillips]

Nope. She acts like a child who doesn't own up to what she said and always blaming everyone on else. She deserves all the boos she gets from that chavy audience she calls family.

[Cal.]

Yes, been let down all her life. Being dropped in favor of a spoiled brat who gets everything handed to her.

[JTM45]

Nope!
She's let herself down. Nobody else has done it for her. She's an awful person and deserves everything she gets!

[SocietyIsRuined]

Feel more sympathy towards Himmler.

[Tarryn]

Yes, been let down all her life. Being dropped in favor of a spoiled brat who gets everything handed to her.

I can think of a ton of my friends who have been "Let down" in their lives, some quite badly. Not one of them has turned into a nasty, vile, two-faced, back-stabbing bitch.
No excuse.

[ruiphillips]

I can think of a ton of my friends who have been "Let down" in their lives, some quite badly. Not one of them has turned into a nasty, vile, two-faced, back-stabbing bitch.
No excuse.

PREACH!

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Not in the slightest, did anyone feel the edit tonight was very pro Helen more than usual.

[Cal.]

I can think of a ton of my friends who have been "Let down" in their lives, some quite badly. Not one of them has turned into a nasty, vile, two-faced, back-stabbing bitch.
No excuse.

I don't know why you're describing Helen as two-faced when Ashleigh has proved herself to be the most two-faced housemate and Helen always says it how it is to people's faces, Ashleigh keeps quiet in arguments and says something 'yeah, hmm' in a sarcastic voice and then goes to the diary room pretending she's all high and mighty, and Ashleigh back-stabbed Helen in girl power week to get what she wanted.

[chuff me dizzy]

No I dont feel sorry for her, I admire her for her honesty ,she didn't say what she did for pity

[LukeB]

no!

[jegmeister]

It's karma. As the saying goes, if you do bad things, then bad comes back to hit you. The oldest lesson of life. I'd like to think that Helen will learn it but I don't hold out much hope.

As usual, she is full of self-pity, saying she's not the only one who's ever done anything bad. Has she never heard of the expression "two wrongs don't make a right". She should have listened to Pav who actually said some sense. She had done some of the nastiest things in the house - if she doesn't face up to that, things will continue to get worse for her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can think of a ton of my friends who have been "Let down" in their lives, some quite badly. Not one of them has turned into a nasty, vile, two-faced, back-stabbing bitch.
No excuse.

:clap1:

[Tarryn]

I don't know why you're describing Helen as two-faced when Ashleigh has proved herself to be the most two-faced housemate and Helen always says it how it is to people's faces, Ashleigh keeps quiet in arguments and says something 'yeah, hmm' in a sarcastic voice and then goes to the diary room pretending she's all high and mighty, and Ashleigh back-stabbed Helen in girl power week to get what she wanted.

I REALLY think you need to go back & watch the entire BB series again, coz you missed a lot of Saint Helen slating people behind their backs.
Plus, when you do, don't forget to take off those rose-tinted glasses.

[fitz2k2]

hell no

[Denver]

I feel sorry for ashliegh because she only has fans because helen is disliked

[jegmeister]

I don't know why you're describing Helen as two-faced when Ashleigh has proved herself to be the most two-faced housemate and Helen always says it how it is to people's faces, Ashleigh keeps quiet in arguments and says something 'yeah, hmm' in a sarcastic voice and then goes to the diary room pretending she's all high and mighty, and Ashleigh back-stabbed Helen in girl power week to get what she wanted.

Helen IS two-faced. One of the biggest myths from her apologists is that she doesn't talk behind people's backs - this is the woman who called behind their backs Christopher wasp, Pav Pointless and Jale slugsworth. It is a bare-faced lie and it is time it was nailed.

[Speedster]

I've missed most of this series-I've hated BB for years and only watch bits. I don't what she's been like most of the time but I think this thing with Ashleigh is nothing more than a personality clash.

As for "what's waiting for her outside" that's the responsibility of the GBP-they decide how they act towards her, not helen so if they all behave like a** holes that's for them to contemplate not helen.

And holding her responsible for her whole family is not only unfair, it's boring because that ******* always gets thrown at women (more often than not) and who says she wants to be famous, plus, how was she supposed to know what people in the house were going to be like? she didn't ask to be in a house with people she'd clash with.

[JCrow]

Tonight she broke down after the judge Judy comments,if she can't handle what has been said in there,how on earth is she going to manage with what is waiting for her on the outside.

I hope she looks back and watches BB and learns from it,I feel her life is going to be so much harder after BB,I cant understand why she put herself and family through this,doesn't she think they have suffered enough ,is her wanting to be "FAMOUS". That important.

Isn't she already famous from being a hooker? I'm in the USA and just started watching this season. From what I've heard she and some other hooker had a 3way with a married sports star? I don't imagine this is any worse than that. A different kind of embarrassing to be sure though.

[Josy]

I don't feel sorry for her no but that task was unfair (not just to Helen) it's supposed to be the final week where housemates can be happy and have some fun and they pull out series mood killing tasks like that.

[MB.]

a spoiled brat who gets everything handed to her.

In which way had she 'had everything handed to her'? I've never seen her brag about anything

What an odd assumption to make

[dyfed]

It's karma. As the saying goes, if you do bad things, then bad comes back to hit you. The oldest lesson of life. I'd like to think that Helen will learn it but I don't hold out much hope.

As usual, she is full of self-pity, saying she's not the only one who's ever done anything bad. Has she never heard of the expression "two wrongs don't make a right". She should have listened to Pav who actually said some sense. She had done some of the nastiest things in the house - if she doesn't face up to that, things will continue to get worse for her.

Sad but true...

[LukeB]

Helen IS two-faced. One of the biggest myths from her apologists is that she doesn't talk behind people's backs - this is the woman who called behind their backs Christopher wasp, Pav Pointless and Jale slugsworth. It is a bare-faced lie and it is time it was nailed.

evil helen

[erinp5]

I think Helen is more anxious about Friday as she knows she will be leaving the house,this is her first time facing the public vote and she is nervous about the reaction. It didn't help that this task was a dumb ass idea with yet more info coming into the house.

[Marsh.]

The law of the land has spoken and as law abiding citizens we abide by the decisions of the courts


otherwise its chaos

The courts. Not Judi James in a wig. :fist:

[chuff me dizzy]

In which way had she 'had everything handed to her'? I've never seen her brag about anything

What an odd assumption to make

She doesn't have to, you can see it in her attitude

[Miranda123]

You reap what you sow

yep, and Helen is gonna reap a hell of a lot more out of this than any of the others................

HELEN TO WIN!!!

[JCrow]

In which way had she 'had everything handed to her'? I've never seen her brag about anything

What an odd assumption to make

Its amazing what the team Helen people will say to try to make Ashleigh look worse than Helen. So sad.

[Creggle]

I don't feel sorry for her no but that task was unfair (not just to Helen) it's supposed to be the final week where housemates can be happy and have some fun and they pull out series mood killing tasks like that.

:clap1:

The courts. Not Judi James in a wig. :fist:

She's so desperate, she actually acted like she's extremely relevant too. :laugh3:

[abhorson]

Fuk no, did i feel sorry for Hitler.

[MB.]

She doesn't have to, you can see it in her attitude

I can see that she's had everything in life handed to her on a plate and that she's never experienced difficulty or been through tough times... in her attitude?

Right...

[Marsh.]

I can see that she's had everything in life handed to her on a plate and that she's never experienced difficulty or been through tough times... in her attitude?

Right...

Well people know Helen and how she is as a mother from her attitude too? :shrug:

[abhorson]

Its amazing what the team Helen people will say to try to make Ashleigh look worse than Helen. So sad.

Quite.

[joeysteele]

I don't feel sorry for her but she should force into her mind what a daft farce and pre-judged task that was.
The prejudiced and pathetic Judy James has been against Helen. on every episode of bbbots I have even looked in on.
That woman shouldn't have any influence as to others lives,especially any with problems.
The whole thing was a waste of time..

Do it properly,if you are going to do something like that, at least since clearly they were both pleading not guilty,have a jury made of some viewers to decide a verdict not prejudiced Judy James.

Helen had some points in the diary room that were valid and it seems Chris and Ashleigh couldn't wait to prove Steven right.
Never thought I would say this but he was the only witness who in the end was spot on in all he said
Know what shove, Judy James in the first CBB next year,let's see how she copes in there and comes out to what people have said about her.

My cousin here watching this with me tonight,when the trial farce began, said are we watching this nonsense,she added,Helen will be guilty and Ashleigh will probably be recommended for a Damehood.

[chuff me dizzy]

I can see that she's had everything in life handed to her on a plate and that she's never experienced difficulty or been through tough times... in her attitude?

Right...

Dead right

[hijaxers]

After lording it for 9 wks reality is biting Helens bum . Pendle Woods is now fearing her adoring public !

[Kazanne]

I think you'de have to be an awfully hard person not to feel a bit for anyone who felt like that and was so upset,that was proper sobbing,I do feel Helen is a very hurt person inside but shows it in the wrong way by being aggressive,hopefully she can see this and try and change it,she seems to want to.

[Josy]

Fuk no, did i feel sorry for Hitler.


*Leaves thread*

[abhorson]

After lording it for 9 wks reality is biting Helens bum . Pendle Woods is now fearing her adoring public !

Hope she gets the loudest boos ever.

[abhorson]

*Leaves thread*

Bye.

[puzzled]

A lot of people are responsible for the divide, starting with Pauline. Then there are those, like Steven, who latched on to, and hid behind Helen. Judi should not have dumped it all on Helen. Has Helen been vile and lashed out unnecessarily? Yes. Still, I do feel sorry for her. I've never known anyone who was so nasty who wasn't covering up a world of hurt inside. I really hope that she will finally see what others do, and will go and get counselling. I hope those tears signal a tiny bit of self-awareness in her. Probably, not, but one can hope. Pav's "help" is all wrong--Helen needs someone to hold up a mirror of her behaviour to her.

[Babschap]

No, she's a bitch.

[puzzled]

I think you'de have to be an awfully hard person not to feel a bit for anyone who felt like that and was so upset,that was proper sobbing,I do feel Helen is a very hurt person inside but shows it in the wrong way by being aggressive,hopefully she can see this and try and change it,she seems to want to.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[SocietyIsRuined]

I think Helen is more anxious about Friday as she knows she will be leaving the house,this is her first time facing the public vote and she is nervous about the reaction. It didn't help that this task was a dumb ass idea with yet more info coming into the house.

Very well said and agree. She's bricking it.

[Marsh.]

Fuk no, did i feel sorry for Hitler.

Judge Judi declares that godwin's law says you lose with this comment.

[hijaxers]

A lot of people are responsible for the divide, starting with Pauline. Then there are those, like Steven, who latched on to, and hid behind Helen. Judi should not have dumped it all on Helen. Has Helen been vile and lashed out unnecessarily? Yes. Still, I do feel sorry for her. I've never known anyone who was so nasty who wasn't covering up a world of hurt inside. I really hope that she will finally see what others do, and will go and get counselling. I hope those tears signal a tiny bit of self-awareness in her. Probably, not, but one can hope. Pav's "help" is all wrong--Helen needs someone to hold up a mirror of her behaviour to her.

Well re watching the show- i'm sure will shock her big time - because i don't think she has any clue as to how nasty she has behaved. That would be a start for any counseller

[susie q]

yep, and Helen is gonna reap a hell of a lot more out of this than any of the others................

HELEN TO WIN!!!

DREAM ON

[Macie Lightfoot]

I don't know why you're describing Helen as two-faced when Ashleigh has proved herself to be the most two-faced housemate and Helen always says it how it is to people's faces, Ashleigh keeps quiet in arguments and says something 'yeah, hmm' in a sarcastic voice and then goes to the diary room pretending she's all high and mighty, and Ashleigh back-stabbed Helen in girl power week to get what she wanted.

You're implying that Ashleigh yelling in Helen's face and actually engaging in her psychotic behavior would end well, which is simply not true.

[abhorson]

Judge Judi declares that godwin's law says you lose with this comment.

No, Helen loses.

[Babschap]

Would never feel sorry for someone like that! Nasty and fake till the end.

[Christmas time]

No because she will win. .. she has single handedly made this series ....


TEAM HELEN
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[Tarryn]

No because she will win. .. she has single handedly made this series ....


TEAM HELEN
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.........................almost unwatchable at times.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I feel sorry for ashliegh because she only has fans because helen is disliked

Nope, no pit for the attempted marraiage breaker from me. DON'T feel sorry for the vile, nasty woman.

As a matter of interest, the picture of Helen as your avatar - is that the same top that we saw Pav wearing tonight?

[Niamh.]

She was only upset that she lost :smug:

[Cold Sweat]

Serious Question:
I'm seeing many signs on this forum that Helen's popularity is rapidly increasing and i'm still seeing mouth watering prices across the bookies - do FM's genuinly think she has a chance of winning BB15?

[hijaxers]

No because she will win. .. she has single handedly made this series ....


TEAM HELEN
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Total utter bolloxs - Pendle Woods 1st out :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[Jules2]

I don't feel sorry for her but she should force into her mind what a daft farce and pre-judged task that was.
The prejudiced and pathetic Judy James has been against Helen. on every episode of bbbots I have even looked in on.
That woman shouldn't have any influence as to others lives,especially any with problems.
The whole thing was a waste of time..

Do it properly,if you are going to do something like that, at least since clearly they were both pleading not guilty,have a jury made of some viewers to decide a verdict not prejudiced Judy James.

Helen had some points in the diary room that were valid and it seems Chris and Ashleigh couldn't wait to prove Steven right.
Never thought I would say this but he was the only witness who in the end was spot on in all he said
Know what shove, Judy James in the first CBB next year,let's see how she copes in there and comes out to what people have said about her.

My cousin here watching this with me tonight,when the trial farce began, said are we watching this nonsense,she added,Helen will be guilty and Ashleigh will probably be recommended for a Damehood.

Steven right? He is a bitter sour grapes person who was evicted to boos. If you look at the other part of the trial Steven said that Chris and Ashleigh went to the DR blah blah blah and that they caused the divide. To begin with it was Ashleigh who was on trial in this farce, not Chris but two seconds couldnt leave Chris out of it, he had to have a little dig. I applauded Helen though when she looked up and said that she did exactly the same thing and that she wouldnt down anybody for doing that. This along with the fact that she, along with most of them, have sat and gossiped in the corners about the others. Sorry Steven is a farce. Kimberley says that part was because Ashleigh wouldnt go in the swimming pool duh!

No Matthew, Daniell, Chris and Christopher were the stars of the day and they are to be applauded. Helen had the worst people supposedly standing up for her.

Having said all of that though I did not agree with it all at all, why arent they just left to enjoy the days before Friday.

[hijaxers]

Serious Question:
I'm seeing many signs on this forum that Helen's popularity is rapidly increasing and i'm still seeing mouth watering prices across the bookies - do FM's genuinly think she has a chance of winning BB15?

Zero

[Denver]

What i dont get is helen is meant to be a bully but isnt most of the public bullying helen

[Tarryn]

Serious Question:
I'm seeing many signs on this forum that Helen's popularity is rapidly increasing and i'm still seeing mouth watering prices across the bookies - do FM's genuinly think she has a chance of winning BB15?

People see what they want to see.
But, it's sad that a person like Helen could win.
"Look everybody, being nasty & hateful pays" is what it would say. Nice (!)

[Marsh.]

She was only upset that she lost :smug:

I think everyone knew she'd lose when the horse entered the house in one of Vanessa Feltz's wigs.

[abhorson]

Serious Question:
I'm seeing many signs on this forum that Helen's popularity is rapidly increasing and i'm still seeing mouth watering prices across the bookies - do FM's genuinly think she has a chance of winning BB15?

Zilch chance.

[Tarryn]

Because the other 5 are such nice upstanding people? :think:

No, just three. Pav & Ash are not.

[joeysteele]

Steven right? He is a bitter sour grapes person who was evicted to boos. If you look at the other part of the trial Steven said that Chris and Ashleigh went to the DR blah blah blah and that they caused the divide. To begin with it was Ashleigh who was on trial in this farce, not Chris but two seconds couldnt leave Chris out of it, he had to have a little dig. I applauded Helen though when she looked up and said that she did exactly the same thing and that she wouldnt down anybody for doing that. This along with the fact that she, along with most of them, have sat and gossiped in the corners about the others. Sorry Steven is a farce. Kimberley says that part was because Ashleigh wouldnt go in the swimming pool duh!

No Matthew, Daniell, Chris and Christopher were the stars of the day and they are to be applauded. Helen had the worst people supposedly standing up for her.

Having said all of that though I did not agree with it all at all, why arent they just left to enjoy the days before Friday.


I did feel Steven said the right things,which shocke me as I cannot stand him.
However for most of your post I do agree with you.

Your last statement is totally spot on,unnecessary this at this stage of the series.

[Christmas time]

Total utter bolloxs - Pendle Woods 1st out :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

says you... ok must be true then .....



TEAM HELEN
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[Northern Monkey]

She only has herself to blame tbh.Maybe she will learn from this and change her attitude.

[mrflibble]

No. She hasn't shown any true regret or responsibility for her actions, and even when she says she has she does the same thing again. I can't have any respect for someone who has so little respect for herself and others, and I can't feel sorry for someone who has put themselves in the position they're in with so little disregard for anyone in her path. Her past might've been terrible, but lots of people have terrible past's and have used that to make themselves into a better person and she hasn't. When she fully reflects on her choices and what kind of person she is and makes amends, then maybe I could feel sorry for her. But she hasn't earned that from me yet.

[Tom4784]

No, everything that has happened to her in that house she's brought it on herself.

[ABigbother]

No because she will win. .. she has single handedly made this series ....


TEAM HELEN
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She's made it the worst series so far.

[chuff me dizzy]

Serious Question:
I'm seeing many signs on this forum that Helen's popularity is rapidly increasing and i'm still seeing mouth watering prices across the bookies - do FM's genuinly think she has a chance of winning BB15?

Forget the bookies odds ,they had Winston at 66-1 to go on Friday and we all know what happened to him don't we :dog:

[clao]

no, i've known chavy scum like her throughout my life, she's very similar to an auntie i don't bother to speak too, helen is just a very selfish person in life who feels she should be entitled to everything, just look at the tantrums she throwed whenever she didn't get chosen to be at a party, she's not ****ing misunderstood.

[Marsh.]

No, just three. Pav & Ash are not.

Because they're friends with Helen, right? :pat:

[Kazanne]

says you... ok must be true then .....



TEAM HELEN
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I thought you were supporting Chritopher:conf:

[swan1978]

I don't feel sorry for her no but that task was unfair (not just to Helen) it's supposed to be the final week where housemates can be happy and have some fun and they pull out series mood killing tasks like that.


Ahhh but what fun to see the evil one and her acolytes [sp] get a kick up the backside however it wont do anything to change the beast within her ... I put that down to a lack of emotional intelligence ...:-)

[optimisticcynic]

Helen is incapable of change. She is a survivor, and for short periods can hold her tongue and internalise her rage in order to avoid clearly identified punishment. Then, after an hour, her irreversibly imprinted vile self re-emerges and she once again elevates herself by pushing others down.

[FlippingEck]

I don't feel sorry for Helen. Nothing to feel sorry for. She has made her choices in life and lives by it. Honesty is the best policy. She doesn't ask for anyone's pity, unlike "princess" Ashleigh

[Mrjrb2014]

Nope!
She's let herself down. Nobody else has done it for her. She's an awful person and deserves everything she gets!

100% this...voice of reason

[Robodog]

Amazing how many people dislike Helen for her anger and insults and they express this ...by being angry and insulting her !

Hypocrisy anyone?

It's like shouting 'I HATE PEOPLE WHO SHOUT'

:whistle: just saying..

[abhorson]

Amazing how many people dislike Helen for her anger and insults and they express this ...by being angry and insulting her !

Hypocrisy anyone?

It's like shouting 'I HATE PEOPLE WHO SHOUT'

:whistle: just saying..


Only the show counts:laugh:

Just saying.

[Robodog]

Only the show counts:laugh:

Just saying.

eh?

The show counts but so does the opinions of the viewers - hence we are on this forum talking about it.

Are you saying none of our opinions count? If so - why are you here giving yours?

[abhorson]

eh?

The show counts but so does the opinions of the viewers - hence we are on this forum talking about it.

Are you saying none of our opinions count? If so - why are you here giving yours?

No. Just that comments on here and other sites are worth diddley in reality.

[Kazanne]

Amazing how many people dislike Helen for her anger and insults and they express this ...by being angry and insulting her !

Hypocrisy anyone?

It's like shouting 'I HATE PEOPLE WHO SHOUT'

:whistle: just saying..

:worship::worship::worship::worship::worship::wors hip: Yep it's exactly the same

[Cal.]

I really want Helen to win!

[abhorson]

I really want Helen to win!

I want the Lib Dems to win:bawling:

[Robodog]

No. Just that comments on here and other sites are worth diddley in reality.

Well in terms of BB - forums etc can make a huge difference to the outcome of the show as Winston's shock eviction showed. Plus forums are a major part of the joy of the interactive BB experience.

In terms of reality though - of course it's all diddley considering that the physical world and the concept of time are an illusion - so what chance does a BB forum have against those odds?

Still, while we are playing the game of life - it's summink to do aint it?

[alex_front2]

The only only only reason why I feel sorry for Helen is because she's smitten with Ash, but despite his protestations fancies Ashleigh.

[Ammi]

..yeah I did feel sorry for her but I also felt sorry for Ashleigh and the other housemates that their whole time in there hasn't been what they would have all wanted and hoped for as it's been such a hostile house...it hasn't just been down to one person though and I think the trial was fair in that was recognised but that the 'verdict' could only be given to the added aggression that Helen has constantly displayed and it has been constant to almost a daily thing with her so I can't see any other verdict being given but having said that, I think the whole trial was a farce and achieved nothing because all it did was to have two groups of people supporting the person they connected to most and that would be an obvious thing for them to do..haven't they been doing that in the media anyway..?...


...what I did think last night was that Helen and Ashleigh were never going to get on so in a way 'blame' becomes less relevant because they're just both too strong minded...when Helen was crying in the loo I don't think it was because of the verdict or how she was going to be perceived in comparison to Ashleigh or not entirely anyway...I also think that they were never going to get on because Helen has a mistrust or dislike of females which is why I think her clique has mainly been the males and I think her tears came from seeing Ash and Ashleigh when Ashleigh was saying that she thought he was a nice guy and put her head on her shoulder and Helen didn't like that at all...I actually think Ash and Ashleigh could have been friends in a different house but Helen's dislike of Ashleigh or mistrust of Ashleigh has stunted this and made it awkward and less possible...you can't help but feel sorry for someone like Helen who doesn't have self awareness and was just feeling....wow, why do they all like her, even Ash..?..or something similar and she just looked 'defeated' and really quite sad....but then of course, she reacted later in the way that is intrinsic to her character and kind of 'lashed out' words of ...no one is going to get the better of me so then you just cringe and think..ughh Helen, don't...think about it....she really is kind of her own undoing and her own worst enemy but I know she can't help that either..it's a typical behaviour thing and we all have those...I hope that somehow she stops seeing people more as enemies and rivals and especially females who she seems to 'forgive' much less than males...and stops trying to catch people out for saying negative things about her and starts to look at why they're saying it...and just basically finds some positives in her life more than she has now or maybe it's not some of the public so much that can't move on from her past but herself ....

[jennyjuniper]

Helen comes from a well to do and educated background, so unlike many of us brought up in childrens homes I would say her life has been better than most. Anyway regardless of how your childhood, young adult life has been, it's still up to us to decide how we act and interact with each other.
Kindness and good manners costs nothing. No-one forces Helen to have a mouth like a sewer, or to belittle and isolate people, who she and her cronies consider 'uncool'.
Helen should take responsibility for how her life is and how she acts.

[bots]

Lets please not lose sight of the fact that it is BB that created the divides and conflicts in the first place, encouraging them in the name of viewer entertainment. If BB had wanted, there have been numerous times that events could have taken a natural turn toward calm equilibrium, yet BB chose to heighten divisions and manipulate further conflicts.

To suggest that hm's directly caused this is not accurate, it was BB

[alex_front2]

The difference between Ashleigh and Helen:

Ashleigh pretends to be this wee helpless guiless powerless weak girlie whilst secretly being strong, shrewd and powerful.

Helen pretends to be strong, tough and invincible whilst really being weak jealous and overly emotional.

The one thing I will give Helen is her tears are real and that's why she's ashamed to cry. Ashleigh's tears are part of her helpless girlie image to keep Chris and co pandering to her.

[Tip]

No, I don't. Helen has shown that she feels sorry enough for herself, she needs to buck up and get herself sorted out.

[Achilles]

Amazing how many people dislike Helen for her anger and insults and they express this ...by being angry and insulting her !

Hypocrisy anyone?

It's like shouting 'I HATE PEOPLE WHO SHOUT'

:whistle: just saying..

pa-t-ACWYBA

I hate Helen because she is a nasty bully. I don't laugh when she is being a nasty bully, I get angry and hate her when she is being a nasty bully. There is nothing hypocritical about it. It's called having a conscience and knowing RIGHT from WRONG.

[bots]

I hate Helen because she is a nasty bully. I don't laugh when she is being a nasty bully, I get angry and hate her when she is being a nasty bully. There is nothing hypocritical about it. It's called having a conscience and knowing RIGHT from WRONG.

Not the best example to make the point as there was no bullying going on there. Loud and aggressive yes, but not bullying

[Achilles]

Not the best example to make the point as there was no bullying going on there. Loud and aggressive yes, but not bullying

It was 100% bullying.

[poppsywoppsy]

I don't know why you're describing Helen as two-faced when Ashleigh has proved herself to be the most two-faced housemate and Helen always says it how it is to people's faces, Ashleigh keeps quiet in arguments and says something 'yeah, hmm' in a sarcastic voice and then goes to the diary room pretending she's all high and mighty, and Ashleigh back-stabbed Helen in girl power week to get what she wanted.

If you watch the videos of the court room Helen has said she wouldn't blame Ashleigh or Chris for saying things in the diary room because Helen has done exactly the same. First time she has said the she, herself was two faced as well.

This wasn't shown in the main programme and I wonder why?

Also Christopher told of Helens many rows with Toyah, Jale, Christopher, Danielle, Matthew, Chris, Steven and Pav, this wasn't shown either.

Ashleigh hasn't had half as many rows as this.

[waterhog]

if she had remorse and seen her bad ways and tried to change we would have - she failed.

[Chuckyegg]

I did feel for her a bit. I don't blame people for thier bad behaviour but I do expect that they are confronted about it. However, last night a court was created which, we all guessed, ended in a qualified psychologist telling a housemate that everything bad is her fault. Such a crappy unprofessional nasty thing to do. And she was understandably upset, not by something that happened in the house, but by the actual program having a go at her. Really below that belt.

[Kizzy]

I did feel for her a bit. I don't blame people for thier bad behaviour but I do expect that they are confronted about it. However, last night a court was created which, we all guessed, ended in a qualified psychologist telling a housemate that everything bad is her fault. Such a crappy unprofessional nasty thing to do. And she was understandably upset, not by something that happened in the house, but by the actual program having a go at her. Really below that belt.

I agree, if she didn't have a persecution complex before she has one now... Bad move BB.

[dyfed]

I did feel for her a bit. I don't blame people for thier bad behaviour but I do expect that they are confronted about it. However, last night a court was created which, we all guessed, ended in a qualified psychologist telling a housemate that everything bad is her fault. Such a crappy unprofessional nasty thing to do. And she was understandably upset, not by something that happened in the house, but by the actual program having a go at her. Really below that belt.

There have been many a time in BB where she has really hit below the belt,regardless of other HM feelings,karma is a bitch....

[Nedusa]

That task (The Trial) was one of the most cringeworthy tasks I have ever seen on BB, proving to me that this show has truly run it's course and must end for good on Friday.

To openly discuss HM opinions/views/reactions to events in the house is total and utter bollocks...

A travesty similar to them watching the open forum group discussing them.

This show is not just scaping the bottom of the barrel but has fallen through and is spiralling out of control downwards into oblivion.

Enough of this nonsense.





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[dyfed]

if she had remorse and seen her bad ways and tried to change we would have - she failed.

Absolutely spot on.

[rionablue]

Yes I do. I hated her for weeks and really liked Ashleigh but in he grand scheme of things Ashleigh is the bigger bitch. She has been vile and bitchy as much if not more than Helen but some of her fans seem to think she is a princess It wasn't Helen caused the divide it was Ashleigh who did. She had Danielle and Toya in the bitch pod and Chris and Christopher drifted towards them. Ashleigh could have made more an effort with the other housemates even if she disliked Helen. She dropped her friend Kim like a hot potato calling her vile and a tramp and when Danielle was evicted she didn't even shed a tear. I feel sorry for Helen and hope that when the show is over she can become more happy with herself and others

[Chuckyegg]

There have been many a time in BB where she has really hit below the belt,regardless of other HM feelings,karma is a bitch....

theres been many a time in BB where other housemates have hit below the belt. BB didn't send a professional in to conclude its all their fault. Shes hard to like, yep... but last night was just really crass and sh*tty and purely designed to make her embarrassed and upset. As a viewer I felt I was playing a part in it. I needed a shower

[Mick]

Tonight she broke down after the judge Judy comments,if she can't handle what has been said in there,how on earth is she going to manage with what is waiting for her on the outside.

I hope she looks back and watches BB and learns from it,I feel her life is going to be so much harder after BB,I cant understand why she put herself and family through this,doesn't she think they have suffered enough ,is her wanting to be "FAMOUS". That important.

A good question.Several times she has said she is a good and loyal friend.There are two ways of gaining friendship and respect.The proper and correct way is that you earn it.The easy and wrong way is that you take it.

Based on her behaviour's in the house she takes it.If she behaves the same in everyday life then yes I do feel sorry for her because she will not have any true genuine friends.

She has a 12yo son and regardless of the instructions she may have left with whoever is caring for him he will have seen the show and Facebook etc and perhaps far worse so will his school mates.

So if there is any sympathy to be dished out I feel the son is more in need than the mother.

Helen had a wonderful opportunity via the show to negate the past actions she regrets but she has blown it.

[chuff me dizzy]

That task (The Trial) was one of the most cringeworthy tasks I have ever seen on BB, proving to me that this show has truly run it's course and must end for good on Friday.

To openly discuss HM opinions/views/reactions to events in the house is total and utter bollocks...

A travesty similar to them watching the open forum group discussing them.

This show is not just scaping the bottom of the barrel but has fallen through and is spiralling out of control downwards into oblivion.

Enough of this nonsense.





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It was awful ,I agree the worst task, done to make Helen look stupid ,shame on the producers

[Niamh.]

It was awful ,I agree the worst task, done to make Helen look stupid ,shame on the producers

I disagree, I think it was done knowing that it would make Helen into the victim, I actually think they want Helen to win, this whole fake eviction thing is making me lean towards that as well. They like a bit of a journey storyline imo

[Robodog]

It was 100% bullying.

You think shouting is bullying?

I also think excluding people deliberately and manipulating a group against them is a type of bullying.

Just like Ashleigh did to Helen with her 'evil plan'.

Face it - they are both just bitches. Helen is the loud, direct one. Ashleigh is the sly, manipulative one.

But if i had to choose - i'd rather Helen's directness over Ashleigh's sneakiness any day of the week.

[chuff me dizzy]

I disagree, I think it was done knowing that it would make Helen into the victim, I actually think they want Helen to win, this whole fake eviction thing is making me lean towards that as well. They like a bit of a journey storyline imo

I wish I could agree Niamh but IMO all done to try to get a bad reaction from her, fair pay to her she rose above it

[Sophiee]

I disagree, I think it was done knowing that it would make Helen into the victim, I actually think they want Helen to win, this whole fake eviction thing is making me lean towards that as well. They like a bit of a journey storyline imo
I don't think they want helen to win necessarily, but I do think that they want that journey storyline and redemption arc for her. sadly it's working on some people as well.