Helen iks she really that thick or

[Beso]

Just so far up her own arse to think that she could only be the only hm to be fake evicted.

Did you see her, jeeeez.:joker:

[Denver]

Just so far up her own arse to think that she could only be the only hm to be fake evicted.

Did you see her, jeeeez.:joker:

This thread is pointless it was obvious shock but you know anything to bash helen again

[bots]

This thread is pointless it was obvious shock but you know anything to bash helen again

If this is all that's new that can be brought up as bad against Helen - I'm happy :cheer2:

[billy123]

I have no idea what this thread is about.

[Beso]

This thread is pointless it was obvious shock but you know anything to bash helen again

obvious shock at what?

[bots]

I have no idea what this thread is about.

I think it shows how little anyone can dig up bad about Helen without digging back into history.

[Denver]

obvious shock at what?

About being fake evicted

[Beso]

About being fake evicted

that is my point, when chris was evicted she had the audacity to think it was for real probably assuming no way could anyone else be so special as to be fake evicted.

[bots]

that is my point, when chris was evicted she had the audacity to think it was for real probably assuming no way could anyone else be so special as to be fake evicted.

Really? She wasn't entitled to think that hers could be fake and the next one real?

Easy to judge from an arm chair, already knowing that its fake :smug:

[Blue Cadillac]

that is my point, when chris was evicted she had the audacity to think it was for real probably assuming no way could anyone else be so special as to be fake evicted.

I know! The woman is a species unto herself. I abhor her.

[waterhog]

let her build herself up even more -

[Beso]

Really? She wasn't entitled to think that hers could be fake and the next one real?

Easy to judge from an arm chair, already knowing that its fake :smug:

she can think what she wants, as can I as a viewer and user of the forum.

Isnt that what forums are for, commentating on what we watch??

I think she was and is bloody thick as pig poop and last night was just another example of her stupidity!

[Anothercat]

she can think what she wants, as can I as a viewer and user of the forum.

Isnt that what forums are for, commentating on what we watch??

I think she was and is bloody thick as pig poop and last night was just another example of her stupidity!

Exactly

[waterhog]

i agree - and so well put as well. helen deserves these comments. she will go through life with something always being someone else fault.

[bots]

i agree - and so well put as well. helen deserves these comments. she will go through life with something always being someone else fault.

More like she will go through life with people picking on her no matter how petty and trivial the reason. People have thrown the bully word at her a lot recently, and I have to say, I think there are more instances of her being bullied than the other way round.

[user104658]

We did comment on that here, she seemed to genuinely think he was going, even though there were two chairs and two sets of headphones in the secret room. Derp!

[Beso]

We did comment on that here, she seemed to genuinely think he was going, even though there were two chairs and two sets of headphones in the secret room. Derp!

ah, I did look for a thread.

lol, at the user who says she's the one who has more right to shout that she has been bullied..thats just bloody ridiculous!!

[bots]

ah, I did look for a thread.

lol, at the user who says she's the one who has more right to shout that she has been bullied..thats just bloody ridiculous!!

I think many mistake loud and aggressive with bullying. They are NOT the same. Bullying does not need to take that form at all. All I suggest is taking a fresh look at events that have happened with that in mind. It may come as a surprise to many just how difficult a time Helen has had recently

[user104658]

I think many mistake loud and aggressive with bullying. They are NOT the same. Bullying does not need to take that form at all. All I suggest is taking a fresh look at events that have happened with that in mind. It may come as a surprise to many just how difficult a time Helen has had recently

They are and aren't the same, I think that's the problem. It depends on that target. Being loud and aggressive is fine, and continuing to be loud and aggressive is fine if the person you're being loud and aggressive with can clearly handle it / give as good as they get (like Ashleigh) / don't find it intimidating at all (someone like Ash).

It IS bullying if it's clear that the loudness and aggression is beating the other person down.

Basically I don't think Helen has "bullied" Ashleigh, as Ashleigh doesn't let herself be bullied. I do think that Helen bullied Matthew though, he was very intimidated by her... and that she bullied Jale in the early weeks isn't even a question. She did.

[Beso]

i think many mistake loud and aggressive with bullying. They are not the same. Bullying does not need to take that form at all. All i suggest is taking a fresh look at events that have happened with that in mind. It may come as a surprise to many just how difficult a time helen has had recently

what would you describe constant name calling about peoples weight in front of a group of baying hyenas?

[JoshBB]

Really? She wasn't entitled to think that hers could be fake and the next one real?

Easy to judge from an arm chair, already knowing that its fake :smug:

I'm pretty sure Chris didn't know though and she did? Is that right?

[bots]

They are and aren't the same, I think that's the problem. It depends on that target. Being loud and aggressive is fine, and continuing to be loud and aggressive is fine if the person you're being loud and aggressive with can clearly handle it / give as good as they get (like Ashleigh) / don't find it intimidating at all (someone like Ash).

It IS bullying if it's clear that the loudness and aggression is beating the other person down.

Basically I don't think Helen has "bullied" Ashleigh, as Ashleigh doesn't let herself be bullied. I do think that Helen bullied Matthew though, he was very intimidated by her... and that she bullied Jale in the early weeks isn't even a question. She did.

Absolutely, and just to throw a few things out there as I think this is a very misunderstood topic:


The Social Bully

refuses to talk or acknowledge their victim
spreads rumours or innuendoes about others
makes someone behave or dress in a manner that bully determines
invites others to an event or party in front of victim, while excluding the victim
talks directly to the victim about a social event they have been excluded from


The Non-Verbal Bully

mimics physical activity and/or disabilities of others
makes offensive gestures and facial expressions
turns their head or body away when victim is speaking (giving the cold shoulder)
uses threatening body language (such as standing in the victims personal space, and using postures that make the themselves look physically larger than their victim)


The Verbal Bully

engages in name calling, humiliating, teasing, and insulting
uses sarcasm and pointed jokes to point out flaws in their targets personality
makes degrading comments about victims dress or appearance


Also, forgetting hm interaction for the moment, the mental bullying that BB has applied this season has been astonishing

[MrWong]

I think many mistake loud and aggressive with bullying. They are NOT the same. Bullying does not need to take that form at all. All I suggest is taking a fresh look at events that have happened with that in mind. It may come as a surprise to many just how difficult a time Helen has had recently

From the horses mouth "I like to be nasty"

[Beso]

Absolutely, and just to throw a few things out there as I think this is a very misunderstood topic:


The Social Bully

refuses to talk or acknowledge their victim...HELEN HAS DONE THIS TO A GOOD FEW HM'S
spreads rumours or innuendoes about others.....JALES EYE ROLLING AT PAULINE, EVEN THOUGH BB HAVE SAID THEY COULDNT FIND IT.
makes someone behave or dress in a manner that bully determines
invites others to an event or party in front of victim, while excluding the victim
talks directly to the victim about a social event they have been excluded from


The Non-Verbal Bully

mimics physical activity and/or disabilities of others...ASHLEIGHS IRISH ACCENT.
makes offensive gestures and facial expressions...WHERE DO I START.
turns their head or body away when victim is speaking (giving the cold shoulder)
uses threatening body language (such as standing in the victims personal space, and using postures that make the themselves look physically larger than their victim).....SHE GOT IN CHRIS'S GRILL DIDNT SHE.


The Verbal Bully

engages in name calling, humiliating, teasing, and insulting..JALE,CHRIS,CHRISTOPHER ASHLEIGH DANNIELLE
uses sarcasm and pointed jokes to point out flaws in their targets personality...AS ABOVE
makes degrading comments about victims dress or appearance
..AS ABOVE

Also, forgetting hm interaction for the moment, the mental bullying that BB has applied this season has been astonishing

Helen has done all I have pointed out...is she still not a bully?

[bots]

Helen has done all I have pointed out...is she still not a bully?

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

[Robodog]

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

Spot on.

Helen gets called a bully because she shouts.

Ashleigh doesn't shout but for her 'evil plan' she deliberately excluded Helen and secretly manipulated the other girls to nominate Ash - for the sole reason of upsetting Helen. This exclusion and manipulation and intention to cause harm to a HM can also be seen as bullying.

But because she didn't 'shout' - no one calls it that.

I don't think either of them are bullies by the way - but both can be bitches.

Helen is a foreground bitch with self reflection and a sense of humour about herself.

Ashleigh is a background bitch with no self reflection and no sense of humour about herself.

Give me Helen over Ashleigh any day.

[MrWong]

Spot on.

Helen gets called a bully because she shouts.

Ashleigh doesn't shout but for her 'evil plan' she deliberately excluded Helen and secretly manipulated the other girls to nominate Ash - for the sole reason of upsetting Helen. This exclusion and manipulation and intention to cause harm to a HM can also be seen as bullying.

But because she didn't 'shout' - no one calls it that.

I don't think either of them are bullies by the way - but both can be bitches.

Helen is a foreground bitch with self reflection and a sense of humour about herself.

Ashleigh is a background bitch with no self reflection and no sense of humour about herself.

Give me Helen over Ashleigh any day.

Yeah she got her warnings because she shouts.

Not because she sidelines people, calls them vile names, jabs her finger in faces.

She brings the whole house down - The words of her mates (and others) when she was locked in the morgue.

[Ellen]

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

:thumbs:

[Beso]

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

go on then!