Helen doesn't understand why Christopher has so much to say about her

[Niamh.]

.......after she labelled him the wasp, chanted boring with her cronies as he walked passed, told him she doesn't value his opinion, the list goes on................

[Heaven = Winner]

Helen also doesn't understand why she isn't the nation's sweetheart and how one could possibly perceive she's ever in the wrong, so... :joker:

[Jake.]

.......after she labelled him the wasp, chanted boring with her cronies as he walked passed, told him she doesn't value his opinion, the list goes on................

Ah, forgot about the whole 'wasp' stuff/trying to make him feel excluded..

[Novo]

I thought Helen was alright at the beginning but I can't stand her now and Ashleigh has pretty much destroyed her in every situation just like Aaron did with Anton and Jay, I think Ashleigh is the first time I have completely changed my mind on a housemate and gone from strongly disliking to being one of my favourites

and Ashleigh and Christopher > Ashleigh and Chris

[poppsywoppsy]

It's all her having goes at everyone, Ashleigh hasn't had rows with as many as Helen but she absolutely absolves herself.

She is besotted in getting Ashleigh out, she is one very troubled woman.

[Niamh.]

Helen trying to make out she's not bullied anyone.........after receiving wafor bullying behaviour :hehe:

[kistar]

She was so awful to Christopher,

[kistar]

She really ganged up on him too God she has been awful.

[Babschap]

It's all her having goes at everyone, Ashleigh hasn't had rows with as many as Helen but she absolutely absolves herself.

She is besotted in getting Ashleigh out, she is one very troubled woman.
Very true.

[JTM45]

Yep, Helen's a very sad, bitter woman who will never change!

[Denver]

Christopher is a lier saying ashliegh would never call helen a bitch

[MrWong]

.......after she labelled him the wasp, chanted boring with her cronies as he walked passed, told him she doesn't value his opinion, the list goes on................

.... said that he was as a disease.

Helen's nastiness never gets exposed properly. That's been the problem this series. Nobody can confidently call her out on her nastiness because BB doesn't expose her in the way that they expose others.

[kistar]

Yeah she called him a disease for goodness sake .

[Sophiee]

she never thinks she's in the wrong and once again shows up how unaware of herself she really is.

[kistar]

she never thinks she's in the wrong and once again shows up how unaware of herself she really is.

Lack of self awareness is her real downfall.

[Jordan.]

Christopher is a lier saying ashliegh would never call helen a bitch

Is that all you have to say? nothing to actually defend Helen

[Denver]

Is that all you have to say? nothing to actually defend Helen

He is accussing helen of exactly what ashliegh did

[JoshBB]

When did she say this? I'm not doubting you I just don't recall.

[Denver]

When did she say this? I'm not doubting you I just don't recall.

She called christopher a wasp at start off series as he would run between groups

[Vicky.]

Shes completely oblivious to her behavior...I dont think she even knows what shes said/done half the time. Look at when BB called her out on bitching about Kim (?) and Helen flat out denied saying it, then we saw a flashback :S

[kistar]

When did she say this? I'm not doubting you I just don't recall.

She called him a disease

[Niamh.]

.... said that he was as a disease.

Helen's nastiness never gets exposed properly. That's been the problem this series. Nobody can confidently call her out on her nastiness because BB doesn't expose her in the way that they expose others.

Yeah exactly, Josie Gibson just pissed me off as well in a comment she made, she said that Ashleigh is always being caught out bitching about Helen right? Yeah because time after time they've set her up and let Helen and co listen to her conversations :shrug: Not once have they sat Ashleigh in a room to listen to what Helen has to say about her to her friends like mocking her accent etc, or shown Jale her laughing about her and calling her Slugsworth or shown Kim her saying Steven was too good for her (something she berated Ashleigh for saying btw) or that no one would give a **** about Kim if she wasn't good looking..........

[Denver]

She called him a disease

She right and a terminal one at that :joker:

[Northern Monkey]

Yeah exactly, Josie Gibson just pissed me off as well in a comment she made, she said that Ashleigh is always being caught out bitching about Helen right? Yeah because time after time they've set her up and let Helen and co listen to her conversations :shrug: Not once have they sat Ashleigh in a room to listen to what Helen has to say about her to her friends like mocking her accent etc, or shown Jale her laughing about her and calling her Slugsworth or shown Kim her saying Steven was too good for her (something she berated Ashleigh for saying btw) or that no one would give a **** about Kim if she wasn't good looking..........

Exactly this.Helen bitches much worse than Ashleigh.

[reece(:]

Can people not go a thread without involving Ashleigh when she's irrelevant to the topic? Stay obsessed...

I think Helen has no awareness at all and thinks everything revolves around her, that said Christopher should be the bigger person and not start mouthing off.

[Lex]

Can people not go a thread without involving Ashleigh when she's irrelevant to the topic? Stay obsessed...

I think Helen has no awareness at all and thinks everything revolves around her, that said Christopher should be the bigger person and not start mouthing off.

Agreed...i've been Christopher's number one fan all the way through...but his obsessive sucking up to Chris and Sadleigh is starting to grate lately!....Good job it's over on friday, because if it went on much longer.....? :shrug:

[jessicadanielle]

Agreed...i've been Christopher's number one fan all the way through...but his obsessive sucking up to Chris and Sadleigh is starting to grate lately!....Good job it's over on friday, because if it went on much longer.....? :shrug:

Just because he's friends with people/person you don't like doesn't make it obsessive sucking up :umm2: they're friends

[Lex]

Just because he's friends with people/person you don't like doesn't make it obsessive sucking up :umm2: they're friends

He was pretty good friends with Helen before he thought she had been evicted!....He also wasn't very complimentary about Mark was he?....you know, the one that he blubbered like a child about on friday night! ....Christopher is, and always has been my favourite HM....but i'm not the contradictory type of supporter that will ignore, or brush aside inconvenient faults of my chosen favourites!....Christopher was a bit of a two faced dick tonight...and i'll say so no matter whom he has befriended!! :nono:

[jessicadanielle]

He was pretty good friends with Helen before he thought she had been evicted!....He also wasn't very complimentary about Mark was he?....you know, the one that he blubbered like a child about on friday night! ....Christopher is, and always has been my favourite HM....but i'm not the contradictory type of supporter that will ignore, or brush aside inconvenient faults of my chosen favourites!....Christopher was a bit of a two faced dick tonight...and i'll say so no matter whom he has befriended!! :nono:

I don't remember what you mean about Mark, but Helen and Christopher have always had a rocky "friendship" so I didn't find him two-faced in what he said about her. If he was completely up her arse to her face and then completely slating her behind her back then I'd agree, but I didn't see it like that really. In fact, one of his gripes was that he's told Helen how she's upset him many times and he doesn't think she listens so he's kind of had enough, which isn't two-faced

[Ammi]

Shes completely oblivious to her behavior...I dont think she even knows what shes said/done half the time. Look at when BB called her out on bitching about Kim (?) and Helen flat out denied saying it, then we saw a flashback :S

..I think also though that she doesn't want to face any self awareness and just shrugs anything off even after she sees 'proof'..when she was listening to the bitching and huffing and puffing, her facial expressions to me were that of a Kevin and Perry type teenager...she's would never then go to anyone and say..look, that was harsh, what's going on here and try to talk it though or anything..she only has one reaction to things she doesn't like hearing and that's rage..and yeah, they are harsh things and not someone anyone would like but her reactions wipe out all validity of how hearing that stuff would make her feel...

[Niamh.]

..I think also though that she doesn't want to face any self awareness and just shrugs anything off even after she sees 'proof'..when she was listening to the bitching and huffing and puffing, her facial expressions to me were that of a Kevin and Perry type teenager...she's would never then go to anyone and say..look, that was harsh, what's going on here and try to talk it though or anything..she only has one reaction to things she doesn't like hearing and that's rage..and yeah, they are harsh things and not someone anyone would like but her reactions wipe out all validity of how hearing that stuff would make her feel...

She was itching to hear bad things though as well, like someone else pointed out on another thread, she had had no interest in watching the HMs unless they were bitching, it was "boring" in her own words. She thrives off negativity

[Tarryn]

How dare Christopher speak, who gave him permission !.
Christopher is a people pleaser. He likes to be liked, nothing wrong with that.
While Christopher likes to see the best in people, Helen LOVES to see the worst in people.
I feel sorry for him, I really wish BB would show a video of all the nasty things Helen has said from her time in the house.
I bet she would still deny it :shocked:

[waterhog]

.......after she labelled him the wasp, chanted boring with her cronies as he walked passed, told him she doesn't value his opinion, the list goes on................

are you surprised by anything helen does not understand. i am not.

[Ellen]

Christopher was/is a wasp. He went round listening to groups then went and told others what was been said then pretended he didnt know what the problem was. The whole group was fed up with him for a while not just Helen, she was just more vocal as per. He wasnt trustworthy which he showed early on & with Mark.

[Kizzy]

I seem to remember something about when helen felt really let down by christopher, I think it was when matthew went and christopher cried, helen was the first to comfort him and look after him, they had a big talk in the garden about the wasp stuff, then something happened and she was really angry about it.. but can't remember what it was.
She's been wary of him since.

[Tarryn]

Christopher was/is a wasp. He went round listening to groups then went and told others what was been said then pretended he didnt know what the problem was. The whole group was fed up with him for a while not just Helen, she was just more vocal as per. He wasnt trustworthy which he showed early on & with Mark.

Mark did this, Danielle did this, Steven did this, Pav does this.
So ?. At least he has not hurled personal & nasty insults at others.

[jessicadanielle]

She was itching to hear bad things though as well, like someone else pointed out on another thread, she had had no interest in watching the HMs unless they were bitching, it was "boring" in her own words. She thrives off negativity

Definitely, she would run over and put the earphones on, then roll her eyes and moan at everything was said as if she couldn't listen anymore. And she asked Ashleigh loads of Helen-related questions when she was in the DR. After their rocky relationship over the past ten weeks, did she really expect Ashleigh to say something nice about her? Would she have said anything nice about Ashleigh? :rolleyes:

[Ellen]

I seem to remember something about when helen felt really let down by christopher, I think it was when matthew went and christopher cried, helen was the first to comfort him and look after him, they had a big talk in the garden about the wasp stuff, then something happened and she was really angry about it.. but can't remember what it was.
She's been wary of him since.

Yes Kizzy, she had talked with Christopher about it but when Mark told him some personal things Christopher blabbed which upset Mark and Helen got annoyed with Christopher for hurting Mark's feelings and telling others Mark's personal stuff. That is when she said he just wasnt trustworthy.

[arista]

.......after she labelled him the wasp, chanted boring with her cronies as he walked passed, told him she doesn't value his opinion, the list goes on................



Thats Normal Life, though
you will have someone you do not want to mix with


Its fecking Normal life

[Niamh.]

Thats Normal Life, though
you will have someone you do not want to mix with


Its fecking Normal life

Even if you believe that's normal life Arista, is it not a good reason for why Christopher might have a few things to say about Helen, like the title suggests?

[arista]

Even if you believe that's normal life Arista, is it not a good reason for why Christopher might have a few things to say about Helen, like the title suggests?


But he is a Bitch with
with nothing to do?



Thank Feck Mark has gone

[Niamh.]

But he is a Bitch with
with nothing to do?



Thank Feck Mark has gone

You're avoiding the question :nono:

[MrWong]

Yeah exactly, Josie Gibson just pissed me off as well in a comment she made, she said that Ashleigh is always being caught out bitching about Helen right? Yeah because time after time they've set her up and let Helen and co listen to her conversations :shrug: Not once have they sat Ashleigh in a room to listen to what Helen has to say about her to her friends like mocking her accent etc, or shown Jale her laughing about her and calling her Slugsworth or shown Kim her saying Steven was too good for her (something she berated Ashleigh for saying btw) or that no one would give a **** about Kim if she wasn't good looking..........

.... Or that Kim's a ****ing tramp :hehe:

Josie's a moron though so it's not surprising that she was manipulated by the edits and exposure of certain hm's. You only have to read social media to see that many, many people were taken in by it.

[MrWong]

Christopher was/is a wasp. He went round listening to groups then went and told others what was been said then pretended he didnt know what the problem was. The whole group was fed up with him for a while not just Helen, she was just more vocal as per. He wasnt trustworthy which he showed early on & with Mark.

I don't think Christopher was/is a wasp but the point is, the name calling was done behind his back and BB didn't expose it either.

[Ellen]

I don't think Christopher was/is a wasp but the point is, the name calling was done behind his back and BB didn't expose it either.

I disagree. He was imo.
Helen spoke to Christopher about what she had said about him so there was no need for BB to do anything.

[MrWong]

I disagree. He was imo.
Helen spoke to Christopher about what she had said about him so there was no need for BB to do anything.

She did not tell him that she called him a wasp. Just that he annoyed her.

There was no need to expose anyone. I'd just like to know why they only targeted certain hm's, 1 continuously.

[Jules2]

Yeah exactly, Josie Gibson just pissed me off as well in a comment she made, she said that Ashleigh is always being caught out bitching about Helen right? Yeah because time after time they've set her up and let Helen and co listen to her conversations :shrug: Not once have they sat Ashleigh in a room to listen to what Helen has to say about her to her friends like mocking her accent etc, or shown Jale her laughing about her and calling her Slugsworth or shown Kim her saying Steven was too good for her (something she berated Ashleigh for saying btw) or that no one would give a **** about Kim if she wasn't good looking..........

I cannot stand that Josie Gibson, she is a fool and she gave the chap she paired up with in her BB a right bad time. I felt sorry for him. I hated the fact that she won and I turned it off. She obviously goes for good looking blokes and cannot see the wisdom in intelligence. She is vile. Was it her or Zoe who said they wanted more sex in the house? idiot.

As I have said, what were Ash and Pav doing when Chris and Helen were in that room, why just concentrate on Ashleigh. I am sure that if Chris had heard something he would have just shook it off. We all know who says what behind everyones back, they are all guilty but some are more guilty than others.