Ash and Matthew argued at the after-party over Helen

[Cal.]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/16/big-brother-2014-final-helen-wood-ash-beefs-with-matthew-over-helen-4835269/

Big Brother 2014 finalist Ash Harrison got into a heated row with fellow former housemate Matthew Davies over Helen Wood.

Ash and Matthew had words at the after-party for this year’s series when Matthew allegedly made some comments about the BB winner.

Ash, who came in fourth place, told The Sun: ‘Helen won and Matthew was slagging her off so I had a go at him for that and we haven’t spoken since.

‘We had a little bit of a row. I don’t like him slagging her off.’

[Pete.]

Inevitable

[Josy]

Matthew is so bitter

[LukeB]

helen can look after herself, she doesnt need him to argue and be immature about it they all should forget about it and just have a good time

[Josy]

helen can look after herself, she doesnt need him to argue and be immature about it they all should forget about it and just have a good time

I take it you include Matthew in that comment?

[reece(:]

Hope he clocked Ash

[LukeB]

I take it you include Matthew in that comment?

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

[Pete.]

Matthew is so bitter
Well the person who made his experience a misery won :umm2:

[Amy Jade]

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

I think Ash is a gentleman for letting Helen enjoy her win and putting that horrible cretin Matthew in his place.

He and Toya have made utter fools of themselves since they were booted out.

[Cal.]

Well the person who made his experience a misery won :umm2:

It didn't make his experience a misery though as he said in his reflection article that it was one of the best experiences of his life and he goes on and on about the argument he had with her. He calls it 'the most controversial moment of the series' and is so hung up on it as he always posts 'Always in the right', uses it when he calls into BOTS and has it in his bio...it's his ticket to still being relevant.

[LukeB]

I think Ash is a gentleman for letting Helen enjoy her win and putting that horrible cretin Matthew in his place.

He and Toya have made utter fools of themselves since they were booted out.

ash should just be a adult and ignore matthew and have a good time

[Amy Jade]

Well the person who made his experience a misery won :umm2:

He shouldnt have been such a judgemental prick then should he. If he is going to sit around judging others he was more than due some home truths himself.

[Pete.]

He shouldnt have been such a judgemental prick then should he. If he is going to sit around judging others he was more than due some home truths himself.
Helen was far worse in that argument even most Helen stans see that

[Lostie!]

Ash is a complete moron. Helen treated certain people like utter ****, it's reasonable that some of them will dislike her. He acts like she's a poor, innocent little victim who's receiving criticism for no reason.

Also, he slagged people off enough, along with Saint Helen. Why is it automatically a terrible thing when they're on the receiving end?

Actually, Ash sat there and goaded Helen as she mocked Jale about "the slug's elephant ears", so his attitude towards Matthew and Jale for slagging them off is almost comical.

[Amy Jade]

ash should just be a adult and ignore matthew and have a good time

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

[Lostie!]

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?

If he hadn't sat there slagging people off himself and being generally nastu for no reason, he might have a right to be offended by the idea of slagging someone off.

As it stands, he doesn't. He and Helen have dished out enough poison, they should be big enough to take some back.

[Amy Jade]

Helen was far worse in that argument even most Helen stans see that

He put himself in the situation and wound her up. His own fault.

[Liam-]

The sooner Matthew disappears back into irrelevance the better, he never said anything of substance on the show, nor since he's been evicted, about time someone said something to him

[Pete.]

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?
He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

[Pete.]

He put himself in the situation and wound her up. His own fault.
Helen went OTT, you condone someone being called a pigeon chested twat, c unt etc

[Lostie!]

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments. :laugh2:

[Amy Jade]

He was justified when Helen threw all the insults under the sun at him in the haus

He said just as much back and has repeated himself since, at least Helen moved on. He is bitter and that is all this runs down to.

[Amy Jade]

Helen went OTT, you condone someone being called a pigeon chested twat, c unt etc

So you condone him repeatedly making fun of Helens apperance since he got booted out?

[Amy Jade]

Sssssh, don't involve facts. Some people are trying to conveniently forget certain events to back up their arguments. :laugh2:

What facts have been missed?

[Pete.]

So you condone him repeatedly making fun of Helens apperance since he got booted out?
Haven't read most of his twitter

It takes two to tango after all

[Jack_]

Helen was out of order with Matthew in the argument in the house.

Matthew was however irrelevant, mostly dull and is vastly overrated. Helen completely ****s all over him in the housemate stakes.

Matthew shouldn't have made comments about Helen, he should just get over it and move on with his life.

Ash shouldn't have started an argument with him unnecessarily though however. Helen won, why does he need to care about Matthew's opinion?

That is all.

[Amy Jade]

It takes two to tango after all

She was in the house so no, he has been slagging her off for weeks when she had no chance to reply until now but I am sure she is too busy celebrating to take too much notice of him being almost as bitter as the anti Helen movement at her win.

[arista]

Matthew is so bitter



Yes a Fool he is

[Kazanne]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/16/big-brother-2014-final-helen-wood-ash-beefs-with-matthew-over-helen-4835269/

Good for Ash,proves what a good friend he is to her,Mathew is very bitter ,he needs to move on

[Shaun]

jack pretty much summed it up

[JoshBB]

How bitter. It's a celebration party and he acts like a dick. Lost a lot of respect for him.

[Lostie!]

What facts have been missed?

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

[Scream]

Really gone off Matthew since he was evicted. Honestly, he's ruined it for himself. He's tried to fool the public into thinking he's entertaining while on the BBBOTS panel by saying 'they're irrelevant' after every question.

[Pete.]

How bitter. It's a celebration party and he acts like a dick. Lost a lot of respect for him.
Ash was the one saying he would confront him?

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think Matthew is bitter, he's just saying it "how it is", a trait all you Helen fans seem to love about her...

[JoshBB]

Ash was the one saying he would confront him?

Too right! Very sour to be slagging someone off at a party, a time of fun. They aren't in the Big Brother house anymore and he needs to remember that.

[Pete.]

Too right! Very sour to be slagging someone off at a party, a time of fun. They aren't in the Big Brother house anymore and he needs to remember that.
Matthew was saying all of it at the final and on BOTS Ash was saying that he was going to confront him

[spot_on]

No surprise here, Ash is Helen's lackey.

[Marsh.]

No surprise here, Ash is Helen's lackey.

And Matthew is Toya's bitch. Toya is Matthew's fag hag.

[Pete.]

And Matthew is Toya's bitch. Toya is Matthew's fag hag.
Matthew is straight

[Macie Lightfoot]

Cool two flops fighting about another flop.

Great series y'all.

[Marsh.]

Matthew is straight

That's what his boyfriend said. :hehe:

[Daniel.]

Matthew is awful in every single way.

[Pete.]

That's what his boyfriend said. :hehe:
Bet you feel good picking on Matthews insecurities :clap1:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

[AnnieK]

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

So if someone was slagging your friend off, would you do nothing?

[Kazanne]

great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

And the way he's spoke about her is equally disgusting,trouble is he is carrying his bitterness on,and good on Ash,it's what any true friend would do.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The worst thing is the after party was held at Stevens house lol.

[Pete.]

The worst thing is the after party was held at Stevens house lol.
Really?

If Steven is a regular on BOTS http://i.imgur.com/wcbrn3E.png

[Cal.]

To be fair Matthew and Toya had been bitching and jeering when Helen walked out of the house (well Matthew bitching to Toya)

[Macie Lightfoot]

^ wow what a crime they should be stoned to death

[Cal.]

^ wow what a crime they should be stoned to death

You again?:sleep:

[bots]

I believe tomorrow, they will slap hankies at dawn :joker:

[Kazanne]

To be fair Matthew and Toya had been bitching and jeering when Helen walked out of the house (well Matthew bitching to Toya)

He's been the same since he left,bitter sod,and Toya wouldn't have helped:nono:

[Chuckyegg]

This is a fact free thread

[rusticgal]

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/16/big-brother-2014-final-helen-wood-ash-beefs-with-matthew-over-helen-4835269/


Shame he didn't show that kind of bravado in the house...did he not say 'Helen can fight her own battles'...:shrug:

[rusticgal]

Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?


...well he did in the house...:joker:

[Patricia4]

Ash is a good friend of her's yes he wants some of her cash it stood out a mile lastnight when she won.
True Friend my arse

[Cold Sweat]

I thought Helen singled Matthew out unnecessarily on bots last night.

Am i getting confused or did Ash say in the house something along the lines of he would verbally destroy Matthew?

[Marsh.]

Bet you feel good picking on Matthews insecurities :clap1:

He's insecure about being gay?

[Pete.]

He's insecure about being gay?
If you remember his VT he says that people always think he's gay when they meet him when he's not. Why after 30 days of being in the house do you still think he is?

[Josy]

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

They would have had a good time had Matthew not started the argument.

[LukeB]

They would have had a good time had Matthew not started the argument.

but he didnt start it :conf:
ash had the choice to leave it and have a good time or say something

[Marsh.]

If you remember his VT he says that people always think he's gay when they meet him when he's not. Why after 30 days of being in the house do you still think he is?

It was a joke sweetie.

[Josy]

but he didnt start it :conf:
ash had the choice to leave it and have a good time or say something

Are you deliberately ignoring the words in the article? Matthew did start it, Ash defended his friend, that's his choice.

Again completely bias views depending on who you like and who you don't when they words are there right in front of you.

Anyway I have nothing else to add.

[LukeB]

Are you deliberately ignoring the words in the article? Matthew did start it, Ash defended his friend, that's his choice.

Again completely bias views depending on who you like and who you don't when they words are there right in front of you.

Anyway I have nothing else to add.

no it said matthew was slagging off helen and ash had a go at him, meaning ash had the choice to ignore it or have a go, im not being bias because i think them both are complete idiots

[joeysteele]

I like Matthew but he has been ridiculously over the top as to Helen since he was evicted.
Really pleased Ash stuck up for her too.He deserved better than 4th place in my view,he is for sure one of the really nice guys..

[MrWong]

I thought Helen singled Matthew out unnecessarily on bots last night.

Am i getting confused or did Ash say in the house something along the lines of he would verbally destroy Matthew?

He said he'd tear him apart....long pause....then he realised that he sounded like a **** and added.. "I don't mean literally I mean lyrically."

[Heaven = Winner]

Does this mean that Ash will "lyrically" destroy Mathew now?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

It takes two to tango after all

aaarrrgghhh can this saying just be ****ing banned once and for all.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

She was in the house so no, he has been slagging her off for weeks when she had no chance to reply until now but I am sure she is too busy celebrating to take too much notice of him being almost as bitter as the anti Helen movement at her win.
she was really nasty to him in the house so of course he's annoyed that she won.

[Northern Monkey]

Matthew going all sour grape Steven.It's over,Have a drink and move on.

[Heaven = Winner]

Oh well. They're all twats anyway, lol.

[Chuckyegg]

Oh well. They're all twats anyway, lol.

They are all ex gameshow contestants. we all need to move on.

[Josy]

They are all ex gameshow contestants. we all need to move on.

That's the thing with me tbh the minute BB is over I can't be bothered getting into debates about hm's because they will be forgotten about pretty quickly..all my energy is used up during the series :laugh:

[Chuckyegg]

The fans are wound up with nowhere to go except to the pages of the Daily Star for a weekend of lies before the Celebs turn up and wipe our minds clean of "Pauline gives Chris a dirty look at a party while other ex HMs look on in shock and anger"

[Chuckyegg]

.....fear not fans, we've got White Dee and Paul Daniels to look forward to. Will this pleasure never end?????

[Kizzy]

Matthew who?
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130304204654/glee/images/6/66/Irrelevant.gif

[Razor]

Ash mentioned he wasn't going to speak to Mathew on bots.

[delta]

Matthew who?
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130304204654/glee/images/6/66/Irrelevant.gif


This :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Tregard]

Whether you believe Helen bullied Matthew or not, Matthew evidently feels Helen was a bully. Considering the person he felt made his experience very uncomfortable has ended up winning, it's almost as if she's been accepted and he hasn't, that would be enough to make anyone sour.

(All of the above is purely conjecture)

[Carolleanne]

.....fear not fans, we've got White Dee and Paul Daniels to look forward to. Will this pleasure never end?????

Truly afraid it will not so am boycotting CBB as I really don't want to watch a bunch of over-paid talentless nonentities

[Crocodile Tears]

Did Ash "tear Matthew apart... lyrically" like he threatened he would?
I wanted to see what a lyrical tearing apart looks like. I imagine it involves singing a song while trying to pull Matthews arms out of his sockets.

[puzzled]

Did Ash "tear Matthew apart... lyrically" like he threatened he would?
I wanted to see what a lyrical tearing apart looks like. I imagine it involves singing a song while trying to pull Matthews arms out of his sockets.

Now, that would be worth seeing. :dance: