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spot_on
16-08-2014, 07:03 PM
Voted Helen the winner? Is this one of those ironic things? Or is this a message you want to send the young woman in the country that it is okay to be a mean spirited confrontational bitch?

LukeB
16-08-2014, 07:04 PM
its done now

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 07:04 PM
:pat:

waterhog
16-08-2014, 07:05 PM
Voted Helen the winner? Is this one of those ironic things? Or is this a message you want to send the young woman in the country that it is okay to be a mean spirited confrontational bitch?

i back you all the way - infarct i am working on a poem to show my disgust. i will say all these points and about being a role model to look upto.

Jack_
16-08-2014, 07:20 PM
Yeah I mean the winner of a reality show on Channel 5 watched by 1/60 of the population is really a role model and a barometer of how bad a 'state' the country is in xx

Anyone that thinks who wins Big Brother is indicative of this countries opinions or that it sends out the wrong 'message' to people, or that it means people support bullying (when Helen wasn't even a bully) or that the winners are supposed to be role models - any of this crap - needs to turn off the TV and never switch it back on again.

JoshBB
16-08-2014, 07:21 PM
bit late to the party, mate. :joker:

jet
16-08-2014, 07:22 PM
Voted Helen the winner? Is this one of those ironic things? Or is this a message you want to send the young woman in the country that it is okay to be a mean spirited confrontational bitch?

:clap1: It's what is admired these days, apparently, in the name of 'entertainment'. :yuk:

bots
16-08-2014, 07:26 PM
Voted Helen the winner? Is this one of those ironic things? Or is this a message you want to send the young woman in the country that it is okay to be a mean spirited confrontational bitch?

Yes, I'm very glad the public didn't vote Ashleigh and reinforce the bolded message

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 07:26 PM
Yes, I'm very glad the public didn't vote Ashleigh and reinforce the bolded message

:clap1:

karl100589
16-08-2014, 07:26 PM
I hate this country and the scum so much.

jet
16-08-2014, 07:26 PM
Yeah I mean the winner of a reality show on Channel 5 watched by 1/60 of the population is really a role model and a barometer of how bad a 'state' the country is in xx

Anyone that thinks who wins Big Brother is indicative of this countries opinions or that it sends out the wrong 'message' to people, or that it means people support bullying (when Helen wasn't even a bully) or that the winners are supposed to be role models - any of this crap - needs to turn off the TV and never switch it back on again.

Yes, while the likes of BB or Geordie shore is on to protect our teenagers. If you think young people aren't influenced by these programmes and their like you need a lesson in the sociology of the popular media.

Pete.
16-08-2014, 07:29 PM
You're setting yourself up for hate
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar92397_1.gif

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 07:30 PM
Yes, while the likes of BB or Geordie shore is on to protect our teenagers. If you think young people aren't influenced by these programmes and their like you need a lesson in the sociology of the popular media.

Given the ratings, not many are watching to begin with so its influence on society is minimal.

bots
16-08-2014, 07:33 PM
You're setting yourself up for hate
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar92397_1.gif

Thats ok, I didn't join the forum to be liked :laugh:

Pete.
16-08-2014, 07:34 PM
Thats ok, I didn't join the forum to be liked :laugh:
I was talking to the OP tbh

bots
16-08-2014, 07:35 PM
I was talking to the OP tbh

haa haa, ok

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
16-08-2014, 07:41 PM
sorry

Forgetmenot
16-08-2014, 07:43 PM
Yeah I mean the winner of a reality show on Channel 5 watched by 1/60 of the population is really a role model and a barometer of how bad a 'state' the country is in xx

Anyone that thinks who wins Big Brother is indicative of this countries opinions or that it sends out the wrong 'message' to people, or that it means people support bullying (when Helen wasn't even a bully) or that the winners are supposed to be role models - any of this crap - needs to turn off the TV and never switch it back on again.

Brilliant! Lot of people just judge and don't think, or are unable so they understand nothing. That is what is sad, like for example the way many men treat women...

jet
16-08-2014, 07:45 PM
Given the ratings, not many are watching to begin with so its influence on society is minimal.

The influence on young individuals isn't minimal...and individuals mimic that behaviour with other individuals who mimic that behaviour....etc. etc.
It's not just BB, it's in programes like Geordie shore etc too. It all leads to even more of a moral decline. Drip, drip, drip.
That's why Helen is admired...society is slowly but surely accepting a 'bully culture' as the norm.

Forgetmenot
16-08-2014, 07:46 PM
I hate this country and the scum so much.

Why don't you live some where else then? Fir all its faults of which there are many, including our political system, its a lot lot nicer than lots of other places which is why so many people want to live here and that includes me..

Denver
16-08-2014, 08:10 PM
Every single viewer has the right to vote for who they like it is nobody elses buisness. If you ask me it is the viewers who digust me some of the comments on twitter and facebook. Isnt it no a crime to send vile messages over social media?

Daffodil
16-08-2014, 08:14 PM
People keep saying they voted for Helen because of the 'journey' she has been on. Frankly the only journey she was on was to keep her mouth shut after BB gave her a final warning. I was not at all happy that Helen and Ashleigh were up ther in 1st and 2nd place.
The real winner in my eyes was Christopher and I hope he gets a good job in journalism or the media as a result of showing us all what a nice, kind, intelligent person he is.

Denver
16-08-2014, 08:15 PM
People keep saying they voted for Helen because of the 'journey' she has been on. Frankly the only journey she was on was to keep her mouth shut after BB gave her a final warning. I was not at all happy that Helen and Ashleigh were up ther in 1st and 2nd place.
The real winner in my eyes was Christopher and I hope he gets a good job in journalism or the media as a result of showing us all what a nice, kind, intelligent person he is.

He isnt ruthless enough to be a good journo

Liam-
16-08-2014, 08:17 PM
He isnt ruthless enough to be a good journo



I doubt he'd ever be taken seriously enough to be a serious journalist now, considering people saw him lose the plot

Daffodil
16-08-2014, 08:21 PM
He isnt ruthless enough to be a good journo

How would you know?

Daffodil
16-08-2014, 08:23 PM
I doubt he'd ever be taken seriously enough to be a serious journalist now, considering people saw him lose the plot

I think they all lost the plot at some time.. I can give examples from all of the housemates. Helen was perhaps the worst for being out of control and she bloody well won!

Denver
16-08-2014, 08:23 PM
How would you know?

Because i have spent ten weeks watching him in the house

rusticgal
16-08-2014, 08:42 PM
Voted Helen the winner? Is this one of those ironic things? Or is this a message you want to send the young woman in the country that it is okay to be a mean spirited confrontational bitch?

Her highlights said it all...a massive reminder of the nasty person she was.

Never mind...roll on CBB..

MrMinaj
16-08-2014, 09:04 PM
christ this is getting boring now,
if it wasnt boring enough already

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 09:10 PM
The influence on young individuals isn't minimal...and individuals mimic that behaviour with other individuals who mimic that behaviour....etc. etc.
It's not just BB, it's in programes like Geordie shore etc too. It all leads to even more of a moral decline. Drip, drip, drip.
That's why Helen is admired...society is slowly but surely accepting a 'bully culture' as the norm.

:pat: Keep telling yourself that as the bitterness eats away at you. The rest of the world, however, will move on.

CaudleHalbard
16-08-2014, 09:15 PM
Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like? :hehe:

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 09:16 PM
Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like? :hehe:

Whilst Little Miss Derry gets paid to pose outside Dominos. :hehe:

rusticgal
16-08-2014, 09:25 PM
Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like? :hehe:


...her personality was vile..that's what Is judged...and the public supported a vile character.
Steven is supposed to be successful in business but the public judged him on the knob he was. In the end Helens win was simply a vote against Ashleigh. She wasn't a true winner because of her pass to the final..that's a fact.l

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 09:56 PM
...her personality was vile..that's what Is judged...and the public supported a vile character.
Steven is supposed to be successful in business but the public judged him on the knob he was. In the end Helens win was simply a vote against Ashleigh. She wasn't a true winner because of her pass to the final..that's a fact.l

She was a true winner as the public gave her the most votes in a vote to win.

You may not like it but it doesn't change FACTS.

Ashleigh wasn't a very nice person in the house either, another FACT.

jet
16-08-2014, 09:57 PM
:pat: Keep telling yourself that as the bitterness eats away at you. The rest of the world, however, will move on.

Very intelligent answer to a valid point that isn't. :umm2:

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 10:18 PM
Very intelligent answer to a valid point that isn't. :umm2:

You'll get intelligent answers when you raise an intelligent point. Bitter whining thread is a bitter whining thread.

rusticgal
16-08-2014, 10:22 PM
She was a true winner as the public gave her the most votes in a vote to win.

You may not like it but it doesn't change FACTS.

Ashleigh wasn't a very nice person in the house either, another FACT.

No one is a true winner when they are given a pass to the final...FACT.

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 10:22 PM
No one is a true winner when they are given a pass to the final...FACT.

No dear, your opinion is not a fact.

Johnnyuk123
16-08-2014, 10:23 PM
Helen is a successful businesswoman, with her own salon and giving employment to a number of people.

Excellent role model...... what's not to like? :hehe:

Giving Bj's is not a career.:wavey:

bots
16-08-2014, 10:29 PM
Giving Bj's is not a career.:wavey:

http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/sour-grapes-make-the-best-whine.jpg

joeysteele
16-08-2014, 10:30 PM
She was a true winner as the public gave her the most votes in a vote to win.

You may not like it but it doesn't change FACTS.

Ashleigh wasn't a very nice person in the house either, another FACT.

Exactly and if people hadn't liked the free pass that were watching all series and also wanted her out then few would have voted for her, rather than in fact voting enough to actually make her the winner.

We were endlessly flooded with Ashleigh is odds on favourite,she seemed miles ahead of Helen 'but' once people who supported both Helen and Ashleigh could vote, they voted more for Helen.

That speaks volumes,full credit to Ashleigh too for the way she took the defeat.
The info fed to the house from the 'viewers'? that belittled Helen almost continuously while building up Ashleigh,was shown to have been a,likely minority view.

Once everyone watching who was going to vote got the chance to choose their winner,they chose Helen.
I say they made the right choice and it shows you cannot second guess the public or for sure take their support for granted either.

jet
16-08-2014, 10:36 PM
You'll get intelligent answers when you raise an intelligent point. Bitter whining thread is a bitter whining thread.

It's not my thread, and I did raise an intelligent point. If you are incapable of answering that point I understand. :smug:

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 10:57 PM
It's not my thread

I never said it was.

If you are incapable of answering that point I understand. :smug:

I have answered it but, as usual, you haven't taken it onboard.

Northern Monkey
16-08-2014, 11:02 PM
It's only a game.It's over.CBB now!:)

jet
16-08-2014, 11:06 PM
I never said it was.



I have answered it but, as usual, you haven't taken it onboard.

Answered with a smartass comment, as usual. :sleep:

Marsh.
16-08-2014, 11:07 PM
Answered with a smartass comment, as usual. :sleep:

Did you not expect one in response to your smartass remark? You clearly have some problem with me so do everyone a favour and put me on ignore.

jet
16-08-2014, 11:14 PM
Did you not expect one in response to your smartass remark? You clearly have some problem with me so do everyone a favour and put me on ignore.

I was talking about my earlier post which you answered with a smartass comment.
Anyway, I'm sure you agree this is getting boring, and I've no problem with you really, it's just when I post something valid I don't like a 'stop whining' response. Who would? :shrug:

kefln
16-08-2014, 11:27 PM
Her highlights said it all...a massive reminder of the nasty person she was.

Never mind...roll on CBB..
You didn't need to watch the highlights, she started mouthing off on BOTS and blamed everyone else for her behaviour when talking to Emma. More of the same to come, watch this space...

Marsh.
17-08-2014, 12:06 AM
Anyway, I'm sure you agree this is getting boring, and I've no problem with you really, it's just when I post something valid I don't like a 'stop whining' response. Who would? :shrug:

Well, it was a response about the thread not you after you insulted my intelligence which isn't so valid.

But, yes, it's already boring.

Kizzy
17-08-2014, 12:11 AM
Well, it was a response about the thread not you after you insulted my intelligence which isn't so valid.

But, yes, it's already boring.

But..... helen won! whoop! :cheer2:

spot_on
17-08-2014, 08:25 PM
Every single viewer has the right to vote for who they like it is nobody elses buisness. If you ask me it is the viewers who digust me some of the comments on twitter and facebook. Isnt it no a crime to send vile messages over social media?Yes, they have a right to vote for who they want to. That has nothing to do with this thread. Who they chose is indicative of what is wrong with people today. Despite all the anti-bully movements world-wide, the UK embarrassed itself by selecting the biggest bully in BB history as the winner.

waterhog
17-08-2014, 08:57 PM
the uk voters should have huge shame but is it really them or are ch5 doing what they tried to do with deadwood - fixing it to get them air time. but like deadwood they are failing miserably.

jet
17-08-2014, 09:01 PM
Yes, they have a right to vote for who they want to. That has nothing to do with this thread. Who they chose is indicative of what is wrong with people today. Despite all the anti-bully movements world-wide, the UK embarrassed itself by selecting the biggest bully in BB history as the winner.

:clap1: That's it in a nutshell.

joeysteele
17-08-2014, 10:47 PM
But..... helen won! whoop! :cheer2:

She did indeed Kizzy.:dance: