Toya reports racial twitter abuse to police and throws shade at Helen

[Headie]

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[Josy]

Racial abuse is too far but her bitterness towards Helen is bordering on obsession now.

[smudgie]

One thing for sure, Toya does not have any class or dignity.

Bitter jealous wannabe....same as Danielle really.

[Josy]

One thing for sure, Toya does not have any class or dignity.

Bitter jealous wannabe....same as Danielle really.

:clap1:

[Headie]

Some of these chavs are vile. People telling Toya that racial abuse 'is a consequence' of being loud and putting herself out there.

I seriously can't believe I live in the same country as these ignorant twats!

[Headie]

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[billy123]

Who is she?
I just searched mentions of the silly bitch and i see nothing of the sort.
She seems the sort of trash to say something like that.
She is nothing but an internet troll.

[arista]

Why bother
she is only doing it to get Publicity


She was Voted Out Early
she went potty

[Denver]

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Thats a lie her twitter is full of digs at helen

[Josy]

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Said nothing? she has never stopped mouthing off fgs.

Toya bull****ting til the end and beyond.

[Tom4784]

Toya > Helen tbh.

[billy123]

I take it her career as a presenter isnt going too well judging by how much spare time she devotes to being a troll at least she has the hair to be a troll.

[Headie]

Who is she?
I just searched mentions of the silly bitch and i see nothing of the sort.
She seems the sort of trash to say something like that.
She is nothing but an internet troll.

Why bother
she is only doing it to get Publicity


She was Voted Out Early
she went potty

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?

[Headie]

Toya > Helen tbh.

:clap1:

(I like both but Toya was easily the best housemate this year)

[karezza]

Get a job Toya and shut up!

[billy123]

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?Where did anyone say that? :crazy:

[Denver]

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?

Is there any proof she was racially abused as ive sedn nothing of the sort?

[Denver]

:clap1:

(I like both but Toya was easily the best housemate this year)

One finish 17th the finshed 1st im sure we can work out the best housemate :dance:

[Brother Leon]

Shouldn't she be busy with her super succesful career?

[Headie]

One finish 17th the finshed 1st im sure we can work out the best housemate :dance:

One was evicted without getting any nominations that week and one had a pass to the final :dance:

[Denver]

:clap1:

(I like both but Toya was easily the best housemate this year)

One was evicted without getting any nominations that week and one had a pass to the final :dance:

Toya has to realise the public didnt like her the first so why would we like her now

[Headie]

Where did anyone say that? :crazy:

Nowhere, I was just asking a question as I thought it was interesting you were more bothered about focusing on her negative stuff than the racial abuse she's been receiving.

Is there any proof she was racially abused as ive sedn nothing of the sort?

Apparently some were through private messaging, others were tweets to other housemates about Toya's race, and I think the ones tagged with Toya in it have been deleted after being reported.

I completely agree with Toya. She talks a lot of **** on twitter sometimes but she's stated in her tweet that she draws the line with racial abuse. Controversies and debates are bound to happen after the show, but racism is too far.

[Denver]

Nowhere, I was just asking a question as I thought it was interesting you were more bothered about focusing on her negative stuff than the racial abuse she's been receiving.



Apparently some were through private messaging, others were tweets to other housemates about Toya's race, and I think the ones tagged with Toya in it have been deleted after being reported.

I completely agree with Toya. She talks a lot of **** on twitter sometimes but she's stated in her tweet that she draws the line with racial abuse. Controversies and debates are bound to happen after the show, but racism is too far.
She is a proven bull****ter unless i dont believe anything she says

[rionablue]

Oh shut up Toya you were vile in the house much viler than Helen and now you are trying to keep yourself in the limelight. Go crawl under some stone

[Liam-]

If being bitter and picking fights online is what she has to do to stay relevant, then good luck to her, lets see how far it gets her and her 'successful career' :wavey:

[billy123]

Nowhere, I was just asking a question as I thought it was interesting you were more bothered about focusing on her negative stuff than the racial abuse she's been receiving.
There isnt exactly anything positive to focus on when it comes to her is there :conf:
She spews hate and bile at people on twitter its all negative.

[Ross.]

Not here for the Hurricane Toya hate:nono:

[Liam-]

Not here for the Hurricane Toya hate:nono:

If she wasn't such a douche nozzle, she wouldn't be getting hate :shrug:

[andybigbro]

Where was the racism? :umm2:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?

What was actually said to her I don't see any racial abuse in the tweets posted :conf:

[Pete.]

Yes Toya don't take the bullying

[Kizzy]

Where is the abuse... does she mean she's reported ash, helen and steven?

[Black Dagger]

Mad that Helen took 100k while she got sent packing in week 3. Poor bitter lass.

[Jules2]

One finish 17th the finshed 1st im sure we can work out the best housemate :dance:

Mmmmm ah but.......Toya didnt have a pass to the final what makes Helen the better HM bearing this in mind. Toya was brilliant and I have no doubt that we would have had some great spats (if that is what floats your boat) had she stayed. There are quite a few who went who would have been far better entertainment than Helen.

[Jules2]

Where was the racism? :umm2:

Not sure about racism, but on Helens page there was a lot of things said downing everyday people. I think it was taken off in the final week, I guess someone didnt want the things shown.

[Kizzy]

How was toya any better or worse than helen, she was rude and abusive too, her relentless assault on marlon and christopher... selective memory or was it just too long ago?

[Pete.]

How was toya any better or worse than helen, she was rude and abusive too, her relentless assault on marlon and christopher... selective memory or was it just too long ago?
Toya and Marlon were as bad as each other to begin with but Marlon started calling her a c unt etc

[karl100589]

Not sure about racism, but on Helens page there was a lot of things said downing everyday people. I think it was taken off in the final week, I guess someone didnt want the things shown.

She called the Irish inbred for one thing

[LukeB]

Racial abuse is too far but her bitterness towards Helen is bordering on obsession now.

she is not bitter she just has a opinion,i'm happy for helen but i do feel sorry for colleen having press talking to her at V festival about it all

[Josy]

she is not bitter she just has a opinion,i'm happy for helen but i do feel sorry for colleen having press talking to her at V festival about it all

I have an opinion too and the way toys has been acting my opinion is that she is bitter

[LukeB]

I have an opinion too and the way toys has been acting my opinion is that she is bitter

she been acting like most helen haters there not bitter, she just feels sorry for colleen like most people do

[Marsh.]

My heart goes out to Coleen.

Fgs, really? :joker:

Has this hag not moved on yet?

Just seen some of Danielle's tweets too, bitter is an understatement. About 50 times she makes a comment as though she doesn't care and moves on and then she digs it back up. :joker:

[Liam-]

she been acting like most helen haters there not bitter, she just feels sorry for colleen like most people do

So it should be Wayne they attack, not Helen, He's the one that caused Coleen misery.. If Helen hadn't have won, Toya wouldn't be mouthing off, so all of this 'drama' is coming from bitterness

[reece(:]

Racism is a serious matter and for people to brush it off as bitterness without knowing the whole story is just silly.

[bots]

she been acting like most helen haters there not bitter, she just feels sorry for colleen like most people do

I haven't seen so many bitter people in ages, and it comes from the nature of their rivalry and the closeness of the vote. Ashleigh and Helen have both shown how to deal with it in a dignified way, its all the less successful hangers on that can't deal with it. Coleen is completely irrelevant in this.

[LukeB]

So it should be Wayne they attack, not Helen, He's the one that caused Coleen misery.. If Helen hadn't have won, Toya wouldn't be mouthing off, so all of this 'drama' is coming from bitterness

it takes 2 to tango, well 3 they all knew wayne was married, but people should have respect for colleen, poor woman im a big fan of colleen press should leave her alone she doesnt want to talk about helen

[Marsh.]

it takes 2 to tango, well 3 they all knew wayne was married, but people should have respect for colleen, poor woman im a big fan of colleen press should leave her alone she doesnt want to talk about helen

Do you really think she'd have mentioned Coleen if she wasn't so bitter about Helen? No.

[sungrass]

Toya does not understand that she has no real power shouting her mouth off.. it actually shows weakness.

If she acted with better manners than Helen she could actually make a point.

She thinks she is sooo intelligent its actually embarrassing.
She is just not as great as she thinks she is.

[LukeB]

I haven't seen so many bitter people in ages, and it comes from the nature of their rivalry and the closeness of the vote. Ashleigh and Helen have both shown how to deal with it in a dignified way, its all the less successful hangers on that can't deal with it. Coleen is completely irrelevant in this.

why are press bothereing her at v festival?

[LukeB]

Do you really think she'd have mentioned Coleen if she wasn't so bitter about Helen? No.

well people did bother colleen at V about it, they press should leave colleen alone tbh, the past is the past and im sure colleen doesnt want to talk about it

[sungrass]

dont feel too sorry for Coleen. She staid with the man - for his money. Obviously. Where would she be without him. The whole thing is a joke and no one should pretend there is any morality in it.

[Kizzy]

Racism is a serious matter and for people to brush it off as bitterness without knowing the whole story is just silly.

Tweeting about it instead of just letting the police handle it if you've reported it is silly.

[LukeB]

dont feel too sorry for Coleen. She staid with the man - for his money. Obviously. Where would she be without him. The whole thing is a joke and no one should pretend there is any morality in it.

she dont need his money

[bots]

why are press bothereing her at v festival?

because she is the wife of a popular footballer. She has been in the news for years, nothing new. Coleen is perfectly capable of dealing with any of this silly rubbish.

[Liam-]

it takes 2 to tango, well 3 they all knew wayne was married, but people should have respect for colleen, poor woman im a big fan of colleen press should leave her alone she doesnt want to talk about helen

Exactly, it takes two to tango, for Helen shouldn't be getting all the hate for it, she wasn't the one who nearly broke a family up, the dirty cheating husband was the one who did that

well people did bother colleen at V about it, they press should leave colleen alone tbh, the past is the past and im sure colleen doesnt want to talk about it

And you've just contradicted yourself, if it should be left in the past for Coleen it should be left in the past for Helen :smug:

[LukeB]

Exactly, it takes two to tango, for Helen shouldn't be getting all the hate for it, she wasn't the one who nearly broke a family up, the dirty cheating husband was the one who did that



And you've just contradicted yourself, if it should be left in the past for Coleen it should be left in the past for Helen :smug:

how? im saying the press should just leave colleen alone :shrug:

[Marsh.]

well people did bother colleen at V about it, they press should leave colleen alone tbh, the past is the past and im sure colleen doesnt want to talk about it

Yes, but would Toya be at all interested otherwise? No.

[sungrass]

Colleen is multi millionaire - I dread to think how much money she has. I do not feel sorry for her.

Roony slept with prostitutes before she married him. One was a granny. She stayed with him for the money.
Its the same with Peter Crouch's woman. No normal woman tollerate it. Only ones that want MILLIONS of pounds. WAGS

[sungrass]

yeah she didnt need his money - she just lost her dignity for it. we wouldnt know who she was if she didnt marry Rooney would we?

[LukeB]

yeah she didnt need his money - she just lost her dignity for it. we wouldnt know who she was if she didnt marry Rooney would we?

she loves him

[Liam-]

how? im saying the press should just leave colleen alone :shrug:

You're saying it should be kept in the past.. If Coleen wants to stay with a serial cheat, that's her problem, but it will be remembered and brought up, why should it be left in the past because she's famous, but keep getting dragged up because Helen was involved?

[LukeB]

You're saying it should be kept in the past.. If Coleen wants to stay with a serial cheat, that's her problem, but it will be remembered and brought up, why should it be left in the past because she's famous, but keep getting dragged up because Helen was involved?

she loves him! the marriage is strong, she doesnt want to talk about the past, and it should be left because the press has got to have respect. im happy for helen but there is a time and a place

[Liam-]

she loves him! the marriage is strong, she doesnt want to talk about the past, and it should be left because the press has got to have respect. im happy for helen but there is a time and a place

So because she loves him and the marriage is supposedly 'strong' (even though he's cheated on her multiple times) that means it all should be forgotten by the press and the public? the celebrity life doesnt work like that and thats what they wanted

[AarynGriesfan]

I guess Aaryn should move to the UK since you guys seems to think its socially acceptable to racially taunt someone.

[Liam-]

I guess Aaryn should move to the UK since you guys seems to think its socially acceptable to racially taunt someone.

No-one here has said it's acceptable..

[Lex]

Racial abuse is too far but her bitterness towards Helen is bordering on obsession now.

You're dead right Josy....Racialism is really disgusting in these, what are supposed to be 'enlightened-days'...and highlights the wilful ignorance of the sick minority that practices it!...and should not be tolerated,... and so I naturally endorse , and encourage Toya's action with regards to informing the police.
....And you are also correct that though she is in the right to be sickened by whatever racist comments she mentioned in the tweet...she also showed a complete lack of class and dignity in dragging out the "Colleen" jibe!....It illustrates that whether by good judgement ..or just a lucky accident, that the voting public was 100% correct in booting "Miss. 17th most popular house-mate" out of the bungalow, long before 'Gobby-but-strangely-more-likeable-Helen'!

....Get over it Toya...Helen won...and you were just a peripheral wannabe that only lasted three weeks because your character wasn't strong enough! :hmph:

[Headie]

Racism is a serious matter and for people to brush it off as bitterness without knowing the whole story is just silly.

At times I'm disgusted to live in this country tbh. I'm lucky enough to have not experience racism that much in my life and anyone who thinks racism is ok needs to be deported.

[arista]

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?



if she wants to be online
and she can not simply rise Above it
Block them etc


Then Yes
as she has a nasty side
and likes her feed



Ask Marlon

[Jack_]

I guess Aaryn should move to the UK since you guys seems to think its socially acceptable to racially taunt someone.

Hang on, you acknowledge Aaryn was a racist and you still support her? :suspect: what?

[Liam-]

Hang on, you acknowledge Aaryn was a racist and you still support her? :suspect: what?

I was going to mention that but thought against it :joker:

[Jack_]

Oh and on topic - it's nice to see people care so much about racial abuse :rolleyes:

[armand.kay]

One finish 17th the finshed 1st im sure we can work out the best housemate :dance:

One had a pass to the final and one played the game like everyone else x

[Pete.]

At times I'm disgusted to live in this country tbh. I'm lucky enough to have not experience racism that much in my life and anyone who thinks racism is ok needs to be deported.
:clap1:

Racism is vile and I have seen Toya getting battered with it on a daily basis. She can't block them all

[armand.kay]

I guess Aaryn should move to the UK since you guys seems to think its socially acceptable to racially taunt someone.

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[Marsh.]

I guess Aaryn should move to the UK since you guys seems to think its socially acceptable to racially taunt someone.

:facepalm: Given your username that's highly hypocritical.

[arista]

Oh and on topic - it's nice to see people care so much about racial abuse :rolleyes:



Jack It Ain't Face To Face
its twitter



She can leave it.


Marlon Hates her
I back his Kick

[armand.kay]

This just proves that black women have it harder in big brother. People think it's ok to racially torment someone because of how they behaved in the house. Every time there is a minority housemate they get racial abuse on twitter sree, deana, toya, makosi are a few examples.
I don't get why toya gets so much hate Bb13's Conor was a vile pig yet they were absolutely no reproductions to his behaviour in fact he was rewarded with £50,000 and left to a roaring crowd.

For most her stay in the house Helen thrived on breaking people down and behaved like a bully for most of her stay so it's understandable why her housemates aren't exactly trilled that she won.

[bots]

In general, people have a level of hatred on the internet way in excess of what is considered acceptable by anyone with any decency. It should all be clamped down on in my opinion. If there is evidence of racial abuse, convict those guilty, the internet is not a haven from the law.

[Denver]

This just proves that black women have it harder in big brother. People think it's ok to racially torment someone because of how they behaved in the house. Every time there is a minority housemate they get racial abuse on twitter sree, deana, toya, makosi are a few examples.
I don't get why toya gets so much hate Bb13's Conor was a vile pig yet they were absolutely no reproductions to his behaviour in fact he was rewarded with £50,000 and left to a roaring crowd.

For most her stay in the house Helen thrived on breaking people down and behaved like a bully for most of her stay so it's understandable why her housemates aren't exactly trilled that she won.

I disagree gina found it perfectly easy its not the colour of there skins it is there attitude

[Alf]

At times I'm disgusted to live in this country tbh. I'm lucky enough to have not experience racism that much in my life and anyone who thinks racism is ok needs to be deported.
You live in one of the most tolerant countries on the planet. You want to start accusing a country of being racist then don't start with this one.

But the reason you do start with this one is because you can.

[Headie]

if she wants to be online
and she can not simply rise Above it
Block them etc


Then Yes
as she has a nasty side
and likes her feed



Ask Marlon

Oh my god.

So you think the racial hate is justified? I actually can't believe what I'm reading...

[Headie]

You live in one of the most tolerant countries on the planet. You want to start accusing a country of being racist then don't start with this one.

But the reason you do start with this one is because you can.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't tell me how I should feel, thank you. Have you ever experienced racism before? I know what it feels like (luckily it's not happened to me that much) and I'm angered by your post telling ME that I should be appreciative that I live in a country with 'a few racists'. My point is that I want ALL racists to be cleared of this country - what's the point of racism at all?

Please do not tell me how I should feel about racial issues.

[Josy]

Racism is a serious matter and for people to brush it off as bitterness without knowing the whole story is just silly.

You have taken 2 completely different points from this thread and stuck them together for no reason at all..

Of course racism is a very serious matter but no one is brushing it off as bitterness AT ALL.

Yeah Toya has a right to be reporting racism to the police as anyone would but the bitterness comments stem from the tweets about Helen and her mentioning Colleen Rooney, there is no reason to drag her into it and it's clearly just to try get a pathetic one up on Helen.

So basically hurting other people for the sake of a snipe.

That is bitterness.

[Alf]

I'd appreciate it if you didn't tell me how I should feel, thank you. Have you ever experienced racism before? I know what it feels like (luckily it's not happened to me that much) and I'm angered by your post telling ME that I should be appreciative that I live in a country with 'a few racists'. My point is that I want ALL racists to be cleared of this country - what's the point of racism at all?

Please do not tell me how I should feel about racial issues.
What a croc of s***

That's your problem that your angered by my post, and I couldn't care less that your angered, get of your high horse, what makes you special?

[arista]

Oh my god.

So you think the racial hate is justified? I actually can't believe what I'm reading...



No its not


But she can handle it

[Pete.]

What a croc of s***

That's your problem that your angered by my post, and I couldn't care less that your angered, get of your high horse, what makes you special?
If anyone is going to experience racism in this day in age it's unfortunately Hayden or another black person.

[Headie]

What a croc of s***

That's your problem that your angered by my post, and I couldn't care less that your angered, get of your high horse, what makes you special?

You didn't even contribute to the topic of the thread, you just singled out my post and told me how I should be feeling to live in a country where there are a few racists.

What makes you so special that you can tell me how I should feel about racism in Britain?

[Cal.]

When has she ever been racially abused by Helen and Ash?

Lol i wanna see receipts

[Headie]

When has she ever been racially abused by Helen and Ash?

Lol i wanna see receipts

Who said she had?

It's random vile chavs who have no life and racial abuse people on Twitter that have sent her insults.

[Kazanne]

Racial abuse is too far but her bitterness towards Helen is bordering on obsession now.

agree along with Mathew she is being a tool and trying to ruin Helens win,just bitter morons

[Bluerang1]

OMG it was just shade o bitterness. Way to twist things

[billy123]

Who said she had?

It's random vile chavs who have no life and racial abuse people on Twitter that have sent her insults.Link?

[armand.kay]

You live in one of the most tolerant countries on the planet. You want to start accusing a country of being racist then don't start with this one.

But the reason you do start with this one is because you can.

Maybe you should try growing up as a minority then tell me about how tolerant this place is x

[Jordan.]

Get Helen locked away again :clap1:

[Josy]

Get Helen locked away again :clap1:

Did you forget to read the thread?

Helen isn't the one she reported for racism....

[billy123]

Get Helen locked away again :clap1: :facepalm:
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[Bluerang1]

Get Helen locked away again :clap1:

innit

[Marsh.]

What exactly has been said?

A couple of trolls doesn't suddenly make a whole fan base twats. Twitter has bigoted/vile trolls, shocked? I'm not.

[Cal.]

A fan has made a decent point about Helen, I don't think she's been to see her son yet...

[Cal.]

You have changed :shrug:

I love her obviously, just a bit strange she hasn't seen her son yet :shrug:

[Denver]

I love her obviously, just a bit strange she hasn't seen her son yet :shrug:

How do we know she hasnt seen her son?

[Cal.]

How do we know she hasnt seen her son?

Well she was out partying Friday and Saturday and has done a lot of interviews today seemingly:shrug:

If she has managed to see her son then I do apologize, but people are also saying that she hasn't seen her son. Someone put:

'If Helen was a decent person, she'd go and see her son instead of partying all the time'

and another wrote:

'Ashleigh talked more about her dog in the house than Helen did about her son'

[Macie Lightfoot]

let's rememwber we first heard Helen talk about her son week SEVEN

[Denver]

Well she was out partying Friday and Saturday and has done a lot of interviews today seemingly:shrug:

If she has managed to see her son then I do apologize, but people are also saying that she hasn't seen her son. Someone put:

'If Helen was a decent person, she'd go and see her son instead of partying all the time'

and another wrote:

'Ashleigh talked more about her dog in the house than Helen did about her son'

Because somebody doesnt mention there kids dont mean they dont care.

also her son would be sleeping friday night and we dont know whether she saw her son saturday or today and frankly what she does outside the house isnt our buisness especially when we dont know the truth

[Cal.]

Because somebody doesnt mention there kids dont mean they dont care.

also her son would be sleeping friday night and we dont know whether she saw her son saturday or today and frankly what she does outside the house isnt our buisness especially when we dont know the truth

Im still stanning harder for Helen than anyone, calm down

[Denver]

Im still stanning harder for Helen than anyone, calm down

I just hate it when people make things up without knowing the truth

[Amy Jade]

I bet it was one knob and Toya is overreacting to try and get pity and attention.

Also how anyone can deny her bitterness is beyond me, she is fuming Helen won and her posting about Colleen is total desperation to get one up on Helen, she could not care less about Colleen Rooney.

[Apenguin]

You have taken 2 completely different points from this thread and stuck them together for no reason at all..

Of course racism is a very serious matter but no one is brushing it off as bitterness AT ALL.

Yeah Toya has a right to be reporting racism to the police as anyone would but the bitterness comments stem from the tweets about Helen and her mentioning Colleen Rooney, there is no reason to drag her into it and it's clearly just to try get a pathetic one up on Helen.

So basically hurting other people for the sake of a snipe.

That is bitterness.

I agree Toya has tweeted for weeks her bitterness all over twitter I just dont get why she can't move on? I thought she had this big media Career & didn't need big brother? She is green with envy & the fact she keeps tweeting Colleen Rooney is its self rather tacky, She goes on about dignity & morality while showing everyone she has very little or either of any of them!
Leave Colleen out of this she is paying the price for her husbands Infidelity's & only he made that Choice to cheat not anyone else!

However that doesn't justify someone abusing her either, but doesn't Toya get the fact every time she tweets team Colleen she is herself throwing it in Colleen's face!
Has any other series ever produced this level of bitterness from ex housemates?:sleep:

[Marsh.]

let's rememwber we first heard Helen talk about her son week SEVEN

Which means she only ever mentioned him then? No.

Also she mentioned him the first week when telling Pauline she wanted to foster.

[Cold Sweat]

I just went and took a look out of curiosity – my goodness!!!
Skin colour followed by **** on one tweet directed towards Toya. Naughty, to say the least…

*I should add that this abuse was not from any of her former fellow housemates.

[Pete.]

I bet it was one knob and Toya is overreacting to try and get pity and attention.

It's still racist abuse omg

[Marsh.]

It's still racist abuse omg

Yeah and she's used it as ammunition against Helen when it has sod all to do with her.

[bots]

Just looked and it is indeed full of racial abuse. Hate breeds hate breeds hate.

Yeah and she's used it as ammunition against Helen when it has sod all to do with her.

Yes, this too

[Marsh.]

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It's taken her 48 hours but finally. :clap1:

For now. :suspect:

[Pete.]

Yeah and she's used it as ammunition against Helen when it has sod all to do with her.
But it's still racist abuse I'm failing to see the point

[Pete.]

If Helen was getting hate from black people for being a 'white trailer park bitch' or whatever people would be up in arms.

People are being insensitive tbh when there are black members on here who might have been a victim of racism too

[Marsh.]

But it's still racist abuse I'm failing to see the point

You said it doesn't matter if it's a couple of trolls as it's racist abuse. That's true, but she's using it to trash all of Helen's fans, which isn't so accurate.

[Headie]

If Helen was getting hate from black people for being a 'white trailer park bitch' or whatever people would be up in arms.

People are being insensitive tbh when there are black members on here who might have been a victim of racism too

:clap1:

[Braden]

I can't believe people are even bringing up the fact that she may be 'bitter'. She didn't like Helen, is she not allowed to be bitter towards her win? It's just an excuse for people to dig at Toya imo.

It's awful that Toya has had to experience racism as a result of her appearance on BB, but unfortunately there are some ignorant ****s in the world.

[Ross.]

Well she was out partying Friday and Saturday and has done a lot of interviews today seemingly:shrug:

If she has managed to see her son then I do apologize, but people are also saying that she hasn't seen her son. Someone put:

'If Helen was a decent person, she'd go and see her son instead of partying all the time'

and another wrote:

'Ashleigh talked more about her dog in the house than Helen did about her son'

One of her posts on Instagram says that her son has grown so tall since she's been away so I'm guessing she has seen him. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

And yet if she never shut up about her son she'd be accused of using him to convey an image or using him as sympathy in the house. She can't win.

[Amy Jade]

I can't believe people are even bringing up the fact that she may be 'bitter'. She didn't like Helen, is she not allowed to be bitter towards her win? It's just an excuse for people to dig at Toya imo.

So she can voice her bitterness but nobody can call her bitter?

[Samm]

So she can voice her bitterness but nobody can call her bitter?

How is she bitter when she is fighting against the racist comments

[Braden]

So she can voice her bitterness but nobody can call her bitter?

No, you've misunderstood what I said.

This thread is a completely irrelevant place to voice such an opinion about Toya being bitter, and I feel people are doing so just to purely express their dislike for her (yeah okay people are allowed an opinion, we get you don't like Toya...w/e)

Toya is allowed to be as bitter as she likes considering the fact that she dislikes Helen, and people are obviously permitted to call her that. It's just that this thread was about something utterly different but people still use it as an opportunity to bitch and moan.

[Amy Jade]

How is she bitter when she is fighting against the racist comments
The title of this thread says she was throwing shade at Helen, I am obviously focusing on that by calling her bitter.

[Amy Jade]

No, you've misunderstood what I said.

This thread is a completely irrelevant place to voice such an opinion about Toya being bitter, and I feel people are doing so just to purely express their dislike for her (yeah okay people are allowed an opinion, we get you don't like Toya...w/e)

Toya is allowed to be as bitter as she likes considering the fact that she dislikes Helen, and people are obviously permitted to call her that. It's just that this thread was about something utterly different but people still use it as an opportunity to bitch and moan.
No. You go look at the name of the thread. It is not specifically to discuss people sendibg racist tweets it also plainly says she was 'throwing shade at Helen'.

[Pete.]

I've read the racist comments thrown at Toya and they are extremely revolting, people have nothing better to do. We couldn't post them on here because they are too offensive

[Braden]

No. You go look at the name of the thread. It is not specifically to discuss people sendibg racist tweets it also plainly says she was 'throwing shade at Helen'.

Omg. The shade/tweets were in response to Helen being a bully and linked to the racism. That's what I read.

It still has nothing to do with Toya being bitter over Helen's win.

[Pete.]

Helen has the power to stop her stans :clap1:

[Amy Jade]

Omg. The shade/tweets were in response to Helen being a bully and linked to the racism. That's what I read.

It still has nothing to do with Toya being bitter over Helen's win.
So why is she attacking Helen?

[Pete.]

So why is she attacking Helen?
She doesn't like her?

[Amy Jade]

Helen has the power to stop her stans :clap1:

It is not all Helen fans and honestly it's not even her business what Toya gets tweeted, I hope Helen keeps out of it.

[Amy Jade]

She doesn't like her?

:facepalm:

You guys are determined to make Toya a martyr so I'll just go now.

[Pete.]

:facepalm:

You guys are determined to make Toya a martyr so I'll just go now.
Not at all

[Bluerang1]

Braden is 100% correct

[Josy]

No, you've misunderstood what I said.

This thread is a completely irrelevant place to voice such an opinion about Toya being bitter, and I feel people are doing so just to purely express their dislike for her (yeah okay people are allowed an opinion, we get you don't like Toya...w/e)

Toya is allowed to be as bitter as she likes considering the fact that she dislikes Helen, and people are obviously permitted to call her that. It's just that this thread was about something utterly different but people still use it as an opportunity to bitch and moan.

Braden you seen time have completely missed the point of the op yes it has to do with Toya receiving racist abuse which most people in here have said is completely unacceptable but it also contains tweets from Toya aimed at Helen which is where the bitterness comments are coming from.

[Josy]

Braden is 100% correct

Apart from when he completely misunderstood the first post of the thread?

[Bluerang1]

But Josy the first thing you mentioned was this "bitterness". You failed to even acknowledge the racism which is wrong imo. You clearly don't like Toya but focusing on her other tweets, where she doesn't even MENTION Helen, and ignoring the racist abuse isn't right.

[Braden]

Braden you seen time have completely missed the point of the op yes it has to do with Tonya receiving racist abuse which most people in here have said is completely unacceptable but it also contains tweets from Toya aimed at Helen which us where the bitterness comments are coming from.

I dunno, maybe I have, but I just couldn't help but think that the tweets in the op were irrelevant for there to be such a chorus of "Toya is bitter.". I apologise if the intent of the thread was different.

[Josy]

But Josy the first thing you mentioned was this "bitterness". You failed to even acknowledge the racism which is wrong imo. You clearly don't like Toya but focusing on her other tweets, where she doesn't even MENTION Helen, and ignoring the racist abuse isn't right.

Really? Go re-read my first post in this thread....

[Headie]

I have no problem with people talking about Toya's bitterness, but all the people ignoring the racist remarks and just focusing on Toya's shade at Helen is what bothers me. You can't just act like it doesn't exist and that Toya is 'such a raging bitter bitch xoxo' etc. You need to acknowledge both and acknowledge the fact that both are wrong, but the racism is far worse than Toya's bitterness.

[Bluerang1]

Really? Go re-read my first post in this thread....

welp comparing racial abuse to "bitterness" is very :umm2:

[Josy]

I dunno, maybe I have, but I just couldn't help but think that the tweets in the op were irrelevant for there to be such a chorus of "Toya is bitter.". I apologise if the intent of the thread was different.

The thread basically has two different topics which is where the confusion is coming from

[Pete.]

Toya's rage has probably stemmed from the disgusting abuse she's received

[Jack_]

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.

[Bluerang1]

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.

Exactly and it's frustrating. Just because you don't like an housemate doesn't mean you have to bring up negatives about them and any given point.

I find it better to just not talk about housemates you don't like and focus on the ones you support.

[Pete.]

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.
:clap1:

[Braden]

The thread basically has two different topics which is where the confusion is coming from

Yeah, I think I was confused because there was a tweet that had Helen's @ name, with Toya talking about racism in the same tweet. And I assumed that's why people may have been calling her bitter.

[Josy]

welp comparing racial abuse to "bitterness" is very :umm2:

Really? You were proven wrong so try to make things up now...

I have nothing more to say to you in here tbh :umm2:

[Pete.]

People be focussing on the things that can help increase their hatred of a housemate just like in that Matthew thread

[Bluerang1]

You said the racism is too far "BUT". But what? What compares to racism? Oh yeah butter obsession :|

[Amy Jade]

Just because people don't comment on the racism doesn't mean they don't care. Of course it is hideous, nobody should be judged by the colour of their skin.

But the fact remains this topic is NOT just about the tweets she received but the ones she sent out too and because of that people can choose to comment on either.

[Headie]

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.

Basically what I just said, 100% agree with this :clap1:

Interesting people are trying to shift the blame on to me for having two topics in one thread when the whole reasons arguments have arisen in this thread is because people have chosen to focus on the lesser of the topics :laugh:

[Josy]

Basically what I just said, 100% agree with this :clap1:

Interesting people are trying to shift the blame on to me for having two topics in one thread when the whole reasons arguments have arisen in this thread is because people have chosen to focus on the lesser of the topics :laugh:

No one is even trying to blame you at all just point out where some posters confusion is coming from..

[Bluerang1]

I don't even know why I'm directing my posts at one person when I disagree with numerous in this thread.

Also, we all felt bad for Colleen, we all think she's been a classy lady in this whole ordeal. How come when Toya says it now she's bitter? Does that mean we're all bitter?

[Brother Leon]

Honestly the racism isn't even surprising. It's twitter. Look at any semi famous black person's Mentions or Youtube comments and it's a madness. Good on her for reporting it, but nothing will come from it.


--

On the other topic, she does need to stop with the bullying accusations considering her own conduct and actions in the House and on twitter. Didn't she brag about selling her Ex BFs stuff on Ebay too? Might not be equal to the whole Rooney thing, but it's still classless action.

[Headie]

No one is even trying to blame you at all just point out where some posters confusion is coming from..

There shouldn't be any confusion at all. If a thread has two topics then talk about BOTH topics or don't post at all. Simple really :shrug:

[Josy]

There shouldn't be any confusion at all. If a thread has two topics then talk about BOTH topics or don't post at all. Simple really :shrug:

Most people have done but then some are getting confused asking why people are bringing up toyas bitterness :shrug:

[waylander1973]

How about we let the police deal with this.

Toya in her tweets since she left have not be nice in general nor was her behavior in the house was - christopher for example.

[Headie]

Most people have done but then some are getting confused asking why people are bringing up toyas bitterness :shrug:

Ah I see. I thought you meant people were confused because there were 2 topics to the thread.

[waylander1973]

Ah I see. I thought you meant people were confused because there were 2 topics to the thread.

You posted more than toya's statements about racial twitter attacks, what does coleen have do with that.

[Headie]

You posted more than toya's statements about racial twitter attacks, what does coleen have do with that.

Read the title.

The word "And" usually means there's something else to it :)

[waylander1973]

Read the title.

The word "And" usually means there's something else to it :)

Personally I think you post it in two separate posts, to allow a balance debate on the two subjects, they are very different topics.

[Headie]

Personally I think you post it in two separate posts, to allow a balance debate on the two subjects, they are very different topics.

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...

[Amy Jade]

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...
People are perfectly entitled to do so, though.

[Headie]

People are perfectly entitled to do so, though.

Well if that's the case then it reveals a lot about their character, if they are willing to focus on a much less severe issue rather than an issue that is completely unacceptable and something which she deserves sympathy/empathy for, even if you don't like her.

[waylander1973]

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...

You have posted that people posted here were not critical enough about the posts which toya herself has taken down so some of us have no idea what was said to toya for her to react the way she did and therefore I not in a position to pass judgement on it, I not on twitter so I just guessing what was really said to her - how bad it really was/how many posts of a racial nature she was subjected to.

Like I said early, this is matter for the police not this forum.

[Headie]

^It's Big Brother related, so obviously it's going to be discussed on a Big Brother discussion forum.

[Amy Jade]

Well if that's the case then it reveals a lot about their character, if they are willing to focus on a much less severe issue rather than an issue that is completely unacceptable and something which she deserves sympathy/empathy for, even if you don't like her.

So basically you wanted a pity party thread :shrug:

[bots]

I think we are simply not in a position to judge fully what is going on. Plenty of evidence of racial abuse, let the police deal with that.

No evidence that I have seen of Helen or any other housemate involved in that abuse.

Plenty of abuse being sent out by the Toya trio to Helen and her supporters, again, its up to the police to determine if that is an offense or not :shrug:

[jet]

On the subject of Helen's involvement with Wayne Rooney - I don't give a rats ass about him, but I do feel for Collen and her young family.
It shows what kind of person Helen is that she was willing to let the whole thing be raked up again by going into the BB house in the first place. She didn't chose to go in last year, or next year - oh no - she chose to go in during the World Cup year so she would get maximum publicity and media coverage. She didn't care that it would cause fresh hurt to Colleen. She used the notoriety the story gave her and flaunted it at the expense of a young innocent family.
Now she is saying "I want to put it behind me" - while flaunting it with a front page spread and interview with the Daily Star.
What a self seeking, uncaring bitch. I detest her kind.

[Headie]

So basically you wanted a pity party thread :shrug:

Please highlight the part of my post where I said that?

I don't see what's wrong with thinking that people, regardless of their hate for Toya, would feel sorry for her racial abuse she's been getting. But no, it's just 'bitter Toya' etc. We're all human, we should all be respectful. Discuss both points or none at all. Simple.

[Pete.]

So basically you wanted a pity party thread :shrug:
Wth? As if people would go 'Unlucky Toya. You deserve it fat black bitch' on here (I hope :ninja2: )

[smudgie]

Please highlight the part of my post where I said that?

I don't see what's wrong with thinking that people, regardless of their hate for Toya, would feel sorry for her racial abuse she's been getting. But no, it's just 'bitter Toya' etc. We're all human, we should all be respectful. Discuss both points or none at all. Simple.

Perhaps, like me, some people did not see any racial abuse to discuss.
I don't do twitter, I don't understand twitter, I don't know who said what.
Some things go without saying racial abuse is always wrong, regardless of whom it is aimed at.

[user104658]

Wait... wait..... .............. wwwait....

"Coleen epitomises class, dignity and integrity."

...Coleen Rooney???????? I knew there was a reason I didn't like Toya when she was in the house. Girl is bat**** crazy :joker:

[bots]

Well if that's the case then it reveals a lot about their character, if they are willing to focus on a much less severe issue rather than an issue that is completely unacceptable and something which she deserves sympathy/empathy for, even if you don't like her.

I think its more a case of, racial abuse, its an offense - over to the police. If there is evidence, and it sure looked that way to me, then the only action is the police deal with it. So its much more cut and dried.

Not seen a single post on this thread condoning that, although there is a lot of noise, that's for sure.

The problem with linking the topics together is that 1 is an out and out offense, it doesn't matter the conditions that occurred to arrive at it, the other aspect is irrelevant to that.


The poison tweets put out by Toya and her friends are a different thing, while not pleasant, and seeming somewhat bitter and sour grapes in nature, will get some negative feedback, and if they have crossed the line into an offense, again, let the police deal with it.

They may have a connection because it involves the same person, but any offenses if proven, are completely separate.

[the truth]

what a dreadful talentless nasty loud mouthed attention sekeing little bore she is...shes mocking peoples education or lack of? isnt that discrimination too?

[Ammi]

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.

Basically what I just said, 100% agree with this :clap1:

Interesting people are trying to shift the blame on to me for having two topics in one thread when the whole reasons arguments have arisen in this thread is because people have chosen to focus on the lesser of the topics :laugh:

..I've just seen that there are two similar threads ..one solely on the racist tweets Toya received and this one with racist tweets and 'bitterness' ones from Toya herself..?..both of them in the same thread/OP would maybe cause confusion and that in itself is interesting/almost like an 'experiment' in that if 'bitterness' tweets from a housemate were posted on a BB forum alongside serious racist ones then which would the focus be on..?....hmmmmmm....

...Jack I know you don't believe there was any 'bullying' in the house but there was perceived bullying from some public, the media and BB themselves hence warnings were given...and I think what's always worried me is what is perceived as a 'victim' when it comes to 'pack behaviour'...Ashleigh was 'spiteful/sneaky/bitchy/spoilt brat'...not my words but just perceptions and opinions...so she 'deserved' that pack behaviour ...so the two things in a way for me have similarities to what you say in that if a person is actively disliked, can also contribute to some altercations etc in the case of Helen/Ashleigh/Matthew/Marlon and other instances in the house then does that then take away empathy with more serious things/issues...


...with livefeed in Channel 4 BB, things were said/done that would bring 'hate' to the housemates and the nature of livefeed couldn't avoid that but there was care and psych advise given to the housemates before they were evicted and the extent of that for each individual may have been based on what BB felt their public reactions would be and advise to prepare for it..?..and that's as it should be as these housemates have exposed themselves to the public for judgement and BB wouldn't exist without them....I'm not sure that still happens though with Channel 5/I don't think I've heard a housemate mention it but what's worse though than the lack of that..(if it is lacking..)..it that we only now have HLs which means that BB are not only seeming less caring in their duty of care in a show like this but are actually 'promoting' and aiding this 'hate' with what they choose to show and manipulate....and then basically 'throwing to the wolves' and the internet trolls....

[Northern Monkey]

Toya > Helen tbh.:dance:

[Northern Monkey]

On the subject of Helen's involvement with Wayne Rooney - I don't give a rats ass about him, but I do feel for Collen and her young family.
It shows what kind of person Helen is that she was willing to let the whole thing be raked up again by going into the BB house in the first place. She didn't chose to go in last year, or next year - oh no - she chose to go in during the World Cup year so she would get maximum publicity and media coverage. She didn't care that it would cause fresh hurt to Colleen. She used the notoriety the story gave her and flaunted it at the expense of a young innocent family.
Now she is saying "I want to put it behind me" - while flaunting it with a front page spread and interview with the Daily Star.
What a self seeking, uncaring bitch. I detest her kind.

This tbh.Plain nasty.Not surprising though.Journey my arse.

[Pete.]

Bet Toya would have a field day when she knows who the actor is :hehe:

[Crocodile Tears]

So you think it's acceptable for people to racially abuse her online?

^ Not sure I believe her claim as she's such an attention *****, but as long as it only involves words (as opposed to threats of violence) then its not serious enough to involve the police.

I grew up in the 80's and if the police got involved every time someone called me "****" at school, half my classmates would have a criminal record!
Having been on the receiving end of racial abuse, I can certainly say its unpleasant but telling the police about it is just pathetic!

Get over it Toya, you precious, pathetic little wimp!