IS Beheads US Journalist James Foley In Video

[lily.]

A militant with an English accent blames US airstrikes in Iraq for James Foley's death and says they are holding another American.

Islamic State militants have released a video that purportedly shows the beheading of a US journalist who went missing two years ago.

The footage appears to show a masked man - speaking in English with an English accent - killing James Foley, who was seized by armed men in Syria in November 2012.

In the five-minute propaganda video, posted on social media sites by Islamic State sources, the man says Mr Foley was being killed because Barack Obama had ordered airstrikes against IS positions in northern Iraq.

The journalist, dressed in an orange jumpsuit like those worn by Guantanamo inmates, is seen kneeling in the desert before he blames the US for his death, in a statement presumably prepared by his abductors.

He then says: "I wish I had more time, I wish I could have the hope of freedom and seeing my family once again, but that ship has sailed."

He is then beheaded.

The group also claimed to be holding another American journalist, Steven Sotloff, who appears at the end of the video, and said his life depended on the US President's next move.

A statement issued by Mr Foley's mother, Diane Foley, said: "We have never been prouder of our son, Jim. He gave his life trying to expose the world to the suffering of the Syrian people.

"We implore the kidnappers to spare the lives of the remaining hostages. Like Jim, they are innocents. They have no control over American government policy in Iraq, Syria or anywhere in the world.

"We thank Jim for all the joy he gave us. He was an extraordinary son, brother, journalist and person. Please respect our privacy in the days ahead as we mourn and cherish Jim."

White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said the administration had seen the video - which Sky News has chosen not to show - but had not yet confirmed its authenticity.

She said that if it is verified by the intelligence community, the US would be "appalled by the brutal murder of an innocent American journalist".

Mr Foley, 40, was an experienced correspondent who had covered the war in Libya before heading to Syria to follow the revolt against Bashar al Assad for the GlobalPost, AFP and other outlets.

Philip Balboni, GlobalPost chief executive and co-founder, said the firm had been informed that the FBI is evaluating the video to determine whether it was authentic.

"We ask for your prayers for Jim and his family," he said.

According to witnesses, Mr Foley was seized in the northern Syrian province of Idlib on November 22, 2012.

The car he was travelling in was stopped by four militants in a contested battle zone that both Sunni rebel fighters and government forces were trying to control.

His family has not heard from him since, despite a public campaign for information.

Several senior US officials with direct knowledge of the situation told the Associated Press that IS very recently threatened to kill Mr Foley to avenge the American airstrikes over the last two weeks.

The strikes targeted militants advancing on Mount Sinjar, the Mosul Dam and Kurdish capital Irbil.

British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said the video, voiced by an IS fighter with a British accent, appeared to be genuine and was "an appalling example of the brutality of this organisation".

It comes a day after IS militants threatened to attack US targets in another video where they warned "we will drown all of you in blood".

Source: Sky News (http://news.sky.com/story/1321581/is-beheads-us-journalist-james-foley-in-video)


This is absolutely disgusting. I hope the Brits out there involved in this are not allowed to come back here without being arrested for their part.

[arista]

Yes Evil


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/20/article-2729287-20A5C0A600000578-162_634x373.jpg

[Kazanne]

Awful story this and scarey,poor guy,some evil sods in this world.

[Ammi]

..I can't get this out of my head..just how evil and barbaric it is and his family/loved ones, how they must feel that this was filmed while their son was being executed...

[Ammi]

..I mean as a parent would you be able to not watch it either and it's not just that he was killed and how it's how 'gloating' it is as though it was nothing and he was worthless...how could that ever be lived with..I can't even process thoughts of that pain for them....

[arista]

..I can't get this out of my head..just how evil and barbaric it is and his family/loved ones, how they must feel that this was filmed while their son was being executed...


We have gone back in time.

[Ninastar]

horrific. absolutely, ****ing horrific.

[Cherie]

Cruelty beyond words

[Pete.]

Pure evil

[Crimson Dynamo]

people have been getting beheaded weekly out there for many years, there is at least 1 video a week on kaotic. ISIS decapitated 50 people end of July and the heads were put on spikes on display.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2707322/Heads-sticks-Sick-ISIS-video-emerges-showing-50-beheaded-Syrian-soldiers-impaled-poles-held-aloft-Raqqa-city.html

[Livia]

Bomb them to ****. The suffering they cause justifies this approach in my opinion. They are the scourge of the earth.

[T*]

Vile. Evil.

[joeysteele]

Absolutely horrible.this is what I call a really vile act,these people really don't warrant existence in my view.

This has to be 100% unacceptable to happen anywhere by anyone.Yotally and utterly barabaric.

My thoughts are with the victims family.

[Samm]

So evil, I just can't at him being alive for it must be completely terrifying

[arista]

Absolutely horrible.this is what I call a really vile act,these people really don't warrant existence in my view.

This has to be 100% unacceptable to happen anywhere by anyone.Yotally and utterly barabaric.

My thoughts are with the victims family.



a Arab reporter
has said they want to show the American Public
that they should not bomb them.
And they want the USA Air Force to bomb more
as it gets them more members joining them.

Ref:Radio5 midday.

[JoshBB]

What the hell :( Religion does ****ty things to people.

[arista]

What the hell :( Religion does ****ty things to people.




Extreme Islamic 's
out there want the USA/UK out of it


Reports that they are going to get another USA reporter
just on the news

[arista]

FoxNews is reporting the man in black
who killed him is a British National



The PM has now returned from holiday

[arista]

[ the five-minute propaganda video, posted on social media sites by Islamic State sources,
the man says Mr Foley was being killed because Barack Obama had ordered airstrikes
against IS positions in northern Iraq.
The journalist, dressed in an orange jumpsuit like those worn by Guantanamo inmates,
is seen kneeling in the desert before he blames the US for his death,
in a statement presumably prepared by his abductors.

He then says: "I wish I had more time, I wish I could have the hope of freedom and seeing my family once again,
but that ship has sailed."

He is then beheaded.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1321581/is-beheads-us-journalist-james-foley-in-video

[BBfanUSA]

ISIS seriously scares me. The most organized Islamic terrorist organization yet

[arista]

ISIS seriously scares me. The most organized Islamic terrorist organization yet


Is a USA Air Military Bombing
going to solve the problem
or make it Worse?

[lily.]

It scares me that we have people from this country out there committing terrorist acts. Will they just come home after that? This is not okay.

[arista]

It scares me that we have people from this country out there committing terrorist acts. Will they just come home after that? This is not okay.



Yes sadly more are going via Turkey
using Internet Contacts to get the routes



Ref:SkyNewsHD

[Brother Leon]

Scum. This a a group the West needs to be worried about and yet there seems to be such a meh attitude in comparison to other Islamic "threats". It's so sad how little fight is being shown towards them and the only Islamic leaders who did battle similar groups are ones that have been or are being forced out of power in Saddam Hussein and Bashar Assad amongst a couple others. That video is upsetting :(

[lily.]

Did you watch the video? Did anyone here watch the video?

I couldn't watch it. I can't watch things like that. I'm just curious if others can.

[Benjamin]

It scares me that we have people from this country out there committing terrorist acts. Will they just come home after that? This is not okay.

Absolutely this. The fact that they come back and reside along side us is not acceptable.

[Ninastar]

Bomb them to ****. The suffering they cause justifies this approach in my opinion. They are the scourge of the earth.

agreed.

[Ninastar]

It scares me that we have people from this country out there committing terrorist acts. Will they just come home after that? This is not okay.

this.

and people think that people of this description getting checked over in airports its racism...

[smudgie]

Sad beyond words.


I do wonder though, why, if these people really believe in their cause why they then go on to hide behind a mask.

[Nedusa]

Sad thing is 10 years down the line these psychotic murdering bastards will become respectable politicians and one day eventually have tea with the Prime minister of the day.



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[arista]

Sad beyond words.


I do wonder though, why, if these people really believe in their cause why they then go on to hide behind a mask.


Because he said to be
a British National doing the murder


Maybe his family will contact the police to give his name
and ask to stay out of the press

[arista]

The USA President was just Live Worldwide

He said there is no place for IS in this world.

Justice will be done.


Well I hope they find the Muslim Brit
who did the Evil Murder
but he could be in 3 or 4 nations

[billy123]

Did you watch the video? Did anyone here watch the video?

I couldn't watch it. I can't watch things like that. I'm just curious if others can.Yes i just watched it and it is very strange there is a segment of statements made by Obama and clips of American drones dropping bombs then a cockney cutting the Americans throat after the Foley bloke spends a few minutes blaming America and saying he wishes he wasnt American. Then the cockney sounding bloke appears with another bloke on his knees and tells Obama its his move next.

There is something very strange about this video.
Something doesnt ring true with it.
They couldnt make a more professionally produced and inflammatory video if they tried.

Liveleak has now gone down under the load of people trying to watch it.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

..I can't get this out of my head..just how evil and barbaric it is and his family/loved ones, how they must feel that this was filmed while their son was being executed...

I mentioned this in the things that irritate you thread yesterday. I forced myself to not watch but I gave in and just watched it.Awful and devastating.


I am glad the video was short. It's not as horrifying as ones i'd seen before where the victim was screaming while his throat was being cut. I can't even imagine what his thoughts were just before the knife touched him but his parents were right, courageous until the end.

[King Gizzard]

Haven't watched it, can't bring myself to. Have seen quite a few hostage beheadings though. Horrifying, not sure I can think of a worse death, it's not even quick like a guillotine

[King Gizzard]

This is a group also responsible for beheading women and children on a daily basis, and burying women and children alive

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

This is a group also responsible for beheading women and children on a daily basis, and burying women and children alive

:( wonder how many of them are in the UK. Places like Whitechapel, Ilford and various other places in London and UK where it's full of muslims, who knows what they are plotting.

[arista]

This is a group also responsible for beheading women and children on a daily basis, and burying women and children alive


Yes but now a
USA press man killed this way
has shocked America

[arista]

CH4HD News say the UK Security Service
may know who the Killer is.

500 is a amount they say who have left to fight out there.

This year 69 were stopped from going
some arrested, some passports taken.

[arista]

:( wonder how many of them are in the UK. Places like Whitechapel, Ilford and various other places in London and UK where it's full of muslims, who knows what they are plotting.




Yes to many to track
also in America
they do not know who is a sleeper.


Of Course most Muslims
are not part of this Criminal Evil Group
its the Extreme Muslims that are the ones
that could attack us or America.

[Ammi]

I mentioned this in the things that irritate you thread yesterday. I forced myself to not watch but I gave in and just watched it.Awful and devastating.


I am glad the video was short. It's not as horrifying as ones i'd seen before where the victim was screaming while his throat was being cut. I can't even imagine what his thoughts were just before the knife touched him but his parents were right, courageous until the end.



hmm, I haven’t watched it and couldn’t watch it...partly because I’m a mother but also because it was meant to be watched so I can at least deny them that....I did see a still/pic on the news earlier though with a recording of his executioner’s voice which was just seconds or moments before he was executed I believe...and the strange thing is in James’ face I didn’t see any terror at all, it was like a complete acceptance and maybe through the last two years since he’s been a hostage, he was himself brainwashed/convinced that ‘America was evil’ and almost felt this was something that he had to do and almost ‘glad’ to do it..?...like suicide bombers etc..?...I don’t know ..the ‘peace/acceptance’ on his face and lack of emotion just seemed odd and as you said, not the same as someone terrified and screaming with what was about to happen.....

[armand.kay]

this.

and people think that people of this description getting checked over in airports its racism...

It targets people because of how they look. It's exactly the same as the police stopping and searching someone in the streets because they are black.

:( wonder how many of them are in the UK. Places like Whitechapel, Ilford and various other places in London and UK where it's full of muslims, who knows what they are plotting.

Are you being serious? You can't blame things like this on Muslims. Its only a small minority. Most Muslims like myself don't agree with this.

[JTM45]

It targets people because of how they look. It's exactly the same as the police stopping and searching someone in the streets because they are black.

Are you being serious? You can't blame things like this on Muslims. Its only a small minority. Most Muslims like myself don't agree with this.

I totally agree with you!

A white Christian can go on a shooting spree in the US and kill a bunch of innocent people but you won't hear anyone in the US calling for tighter controls over Christian groups or drone attacks on Churches.
They won't even look at restricting the access to guns for ****'s sake!!! :facepalm:

[lostalex]

I totally agree with you!

A white Christian can go on a shooting spree in the US and kill a bunch of innocent people but you won't hear anyone in the US calling for tighter controls over Christian groups or drone attacks on Churches.
They won't even look at restricting the access to guns for ****'s sake!!! :facepalm:

Probably because there is no political aspect or organization of christians in the US trying to take over the country. christian preachers aren't going into church on sundays talking about the evils of america and encouraging people to cause violence. Please don't compare the 2, because there is no comparison.

Also christians are not causing sectarian violence. You don't see Mormons attacking Catholics. or Baptists suicide bombing Jehovah's witnesses.

[lostalex]

**** the bombing, i say we go over there and behead them all 1 by 1. just bombing them is too civilized. they don't deserve an instant death.

[arista]

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[Cherie]

I totally agree with you!

A white Christian can go on a shooting spree in the US and kill a bunch of innocent people but you won't hear anyone in the US calling for tighter controls over Christian groups or drone attacks on Churches.
They won't even look at restricting the access to guns for ****'s sake!!! :facepalm:

:clap1:

[Cherie]

Probably because there is no political aspect or organization of christians in the US trying to take over the country. christian preachers aren't going into church on sundays talking about the evils of america and encouraging people to cause violence. Please don't compare the 2, because there is no comparison.

Also christians are not causing sectarian violence. You don't see Mormons attacking Catholics. or Baptists suicide bombing Jehovah's witnesses.

You sre talking about the minority of radical clerics though, in the majority of mosques people are praying not inciting violence

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did you watch the video? Did anyone here watch the video?

I couldn't watch it. I can't watch things like that. I'm just curious if others can.

yes i have watched countless beheadings, its not nice but they die after a few seconds

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Are you being serious? You can't blame things like this on Muslims. Its only a small minority. Most Muslims like myself don't agree with this.

I didn't mean ALL muslims.


Why is Obama on a golfing trip? :facepalm:

[lostalex]

You sre talking about the minority of radical clerics though, in the majority of mosques people are praying not inciting violence

it;s still not a problem in America. while sectarian violence between muslim sects is a major cause of violence in that part of the world. so it is a major difference.

[Ninastar]

it;s still not a problem in America. while sectarian violence between muslim sects is a major cause of violence in that part of the world. so it is a major difference.

That last part, I totally agree with

Anyway I can't reply properly right now, but I'll be home in a few hours and reply then...

[Livia]

It targets people because of how they look. It's exactly the same as the police stopping and searching someone in the streets because they are black.

Are you being serious? You can't blame things like this on Muslims. Its only a small minority. Most Muslims like myself don't agree with this.

Sadly,the Muslim fundamentalist terrorist fits a certain look and criteria which means that a huge numbr of totally innocent Muslims are going to be scrutinised because terrorists are carrying out attrocities in the name of your religion. It's not fair, but that's the way it is. And it isn't only tan-skinned Muslim people who are more closely scrutinised. I was held at immigration at JFK for hours because despite being white, I was travelling alone and had Arabic stamps in my passport. Did it make me angry? Actually... no. I'd rather they take security deadly seriously.

[arista]

Yes i just watched it and it is very strange there is a segment of statements made by Obama and clips of American drones dropping bombs then a cockney cutting the Americans throat after the Foley bloke spends a few minutes blaming America and saying he wishes he wasnt American. Then the cockney sounding bloke appears with another bloke on his knees and tells Obama its his move next.

There is something very strange about this video.
Something doesnt ring true with it.
They couldnt make a more professionally produced and inflammatory video if they tried.

Liveleak has now gone down under the load of people trying to watch it.




Yes many have now reported that his (the killer) voice
may of been edited onto to it.





ref : News and papers


http://news.sky.com/story/1322431/how-forensic-experts-will-analyse-beheading-clip

[Ninastar]

It targets people because of how they look. It's exactly the same as the police stopping and searching someone in the streets because they are black.


I'm not being funny, but all you need to do is look at the people who are involved in most of the terrorist all around the world. I'm not saying that ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS!!!!!!! You will never ever hear me say that. I think that muslims (from my experience) are easily some of the nicest and most caring people I have ever met. There is a MASSIVE difference between someone who is muslim and someone who is an extremist. It's sad that muslims end up being labelled as terrorists, when it's only a small portion of them with warped views. I'm easily one of the most open minded people when it comes to religious views. But you cannot deny that a huge portion of the mishaps that go on in the world, are done by muslim extremists.

If a person has extra precautionary measures done to them in an airport, because they are muslim, is that racism? IMO no it's not. It's just unfortunate that they have to go through that, because of these people who make them look crazy. If it were Americans who were the extremists and bombing/decapitating people on a daily basis, I'd be totally understanding if I had to get checked over in an airport. I have been a few times.

[lostalex]

Nina and Livia, you don't have to justify yourselves. what you are saying is obvious.

[Ninastar]

thanks alex! much appreciated...

[Cherie]

it;s still not a problem in America. while sectarian violence between muslim sects is a major cause of violence in that part of the world. so it is a major difference.

It's not a problem in Whitechapel or Ilford either!

[lostalex]

It's not a problem in Whitechapel or Ilford either!


i never said it was...

[lily.]

yes i have watched countless beheadings, its not nice but they die after a few seconds

Do you think you become desensitised after a while?

[lostalex]

atleast his body will be halal.

[Nedusa]

Yes many have now reported that his (the killer) voice
may of been edited onto to it.





ref : News and papers


http://news.sky.com/story/1322431/how-forensic-experts-will-analyse-beheading-clip

But as we cannot see his mouth or lips moving it could well be anyone speaking these words. The fact the accent belongs to a Londoner does not mean this Londoner was present in the video clip.




.

[Livia]

But as we cannot see his mouth or lips moving it could well be anyone speaking these words. The fact the accent belongs to a Londoner does not mean this Londoner was present in the video clip.




.

Yes... an important point that seems to have passed most people by.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

"i'd be shocked if there was an isis attack in london but not surprised sadly" :bawling: itv news

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Of course not all muslims are detorists and a lot of them disagree with the action of isis but how most of them see it is that back home people get bombed, shot on a daily basis by the west. They kill one American and world wide outcry they deserve to get bombed further. If it came to siding or sympathising, most muslims here would probably side with their own because they would understand where they are coming from even if they disagree with them using religion to justify it.

[MTVN]

So it would have cost $132m to free this man. I know the whole "we don't negotiate with terrorists" blah blah blah stuff but that absolutist view isn't really accurate or logical. For starters the US were happy to negotiate with the Taliban by exchanging five Islamists for that American soldier. I also believe that paying a ransom like that is ultimately worth it to protect the life of your citizen. It's a brutal murky war, you can't win every battle within it, sometimes sacrificing your principles and a few of your dollars is worth it to save the life of your countryman. And let's face it, $130m is a mere drop in the ocean for the US government, you might say it would contribute a lot to ISIS but I'm not so convinced, not considering they are currently in control over some of the wealthiest oil rich regions on the planet. And while the US may refuse to fork out ransoms there has already been cases of the French, the Spanish, the Germans, the Italians and the Swiss doing so in order to secure the release of their citizens. For the US not do so doesn't really achieve much at all if other Western nations are prepared to pay for the release of hostages.

I also thought this was a strong point made by Robert Fisk on the changing way that journalists are now viewed in the Middle East, seen as fair game by people of all different persuasions:

For journalists, yesterday was a fearful day. Thirty years ago, Arabs would acknowledge our special role as neutral observers. As the years have gone by – and as journalists have been killed by American military forces and Israeli soldiers and Iraqi rebels (and Arab militias), so our vulnerability has grown infinitely greater. When our chum, the Egyptian Field Marshal Abdol Fottah al-Sissi, locks up journalists for months, precious little do Western governments care about them. When our own masters show so little concern for our fate, is it any surprise that Isis –or Isil or whatever – are prepared to kill them. Sure, we don’t execute them. But that’s not a significance Isis is going to take much interest in.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/middle-east-crisis-we-know-all-too-much-about-the-cruelty-of-isis--but-all-too-little-about-who-they-are-9681873.html

[King Gizzard]

Wouldn't you get a hell of a lot more kidnappings (and not just by ISIS) if the kidnappers knew they'd get a reward of that sum though

[the truth]

Of course not all muslims are detorists and a lot of them disagree with the action of isis but how most of them see it is that back home people get bombed, shot on a daily basis by the west. They kill one American and world wide outcry they deserve to get bombed further. If it came to siding or sympathising, most muslims here would probably side with their own because they would understand where they are coming from even if they disagree with them using religion to justify it.

have you done a survey across the millions of muslims? didnt think so

dangerous generalized over simplified nonsense

[MTVN]

Wouldn't you get a hell of a lot more kidnappings (and not just by ISIS) if the kidnappers knew they'd get a reward of that sum though

The kidnappers will always take any Westerner they can it seems, I don't think they're that bothered if they get the ransom or if they kill them. If the former then they get their money, the latter gives them the chance for a powerful propaganda stunt like this one, either outcome suits them really

And there's the problem that if you're gonna have the 'no negotiation' policy then you've gotta be consistent with it, but basically every Western country has paid ransoms in the past and so it still makes it worthwhile for any kidnappers. Quite a few other European countries seem to have paid them recently, and even us and the States have done it not too long ago, the US with the solider if Afghanistan and the UK with that couple who were kidnapped by Somali pirates a few years back. It's true though that if you always paid ransoms then it may encourage more kidnappings but then the focus should be on avoiding that in the first place, I don't think journalists and non-combatants should ever be in that position that they may be captured and its worrying that they are now apparently seen as fair game in a lot of conflicts

[Cal.]

****ing scumbags! Hancuff them and leave them far out in the desert to die.

[arista]

They are now saying they have another USA press man
from Time mag.

The say he is next to killed Live

[arista]

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[Ammi]

..it's not just money demands though is it..it's also the release of 'world threats' and can that be given in to because surely that would just increase the worry of this whole thing..also it's so complicated because if a captive were to be released and demands given in to and that captive had done something similar to this beheading or responsible for deaths in other ways and the families of those victims had to see that person released to save another but then that person was killed anyway or the released went on to actively plot other atrocities then what has been solved and how does that make families who have lost feel....and see these people who have ruined their lives go on and do it again...because these are extremists and it will go on.../nothing will be 'solved' in releasing them and no lives will be saved I don't think....

[Ammi]

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..so this has given him the notoriety that was sought...it's a good point though made earlier that it could be his voice only used to 'add to the horror' of a British civilian butchering and American one...

[lily.]

Wouldn't you get a hell of a lot more kidnappings (and not just by ISIS) if the kidnappers knew they'd get a reward of that sum though

Yes.

I 100% support the policy of not negotiating with terrorists. I feel for the family of James Foley, but people can not give in to that kind of terrorist demand.

[arista]

..so this has given him the notoriety that was sought...it's a good point though made earlier that it could be his voice only used to 'add to the horror' of a British civilian butchering and American one...


If it is the British man doing the killing
or was his voice digital edit over



they are tricking many of us

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

have you done a survey across the millions of muslims? didnt think so

dangerous generalized over simplified nonsense

Fair enough that's your opinion. On channel 4 yesterday there was a muslim refusing to answer whether he condemned the beheading act and was getting quite aggressive about being forced to give an answer they want to hear and i've been around a few muslim people who have the views i've stated, plus I read a lot of comments on sites under these issues. Not everyone is sympathetic towards Westerners, just because western media generally make it look like it's a "worldwide" outcry not everyone feels like that. And I mean the fact that number of British Muslims joining ISIS is increasing should also be an indication. :shrug:

Wright Stuff "More British Muslims choosing Jihad over the Military"

'Obama must eradicate ISIS NOW - or pay the price later: Top Marine general says militants must be stamped out immediately, as Hagel admits they could become more dangerous than Al Qaeda'

[Ammi]

If it is the British man doing the killing
or was his voice digital edit over



they are tricking many of us

..it just seems odd that his face was covered to be not recognised yet his voice would be easily recognisable to people who knew him and may reveal his identity..so maybe was 'set up' to think he was from the UK...

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/24/article-2733228-20C0B2EF00000578-499_634x594.jpg
[Privileged life: Bary lived with his parent in their £1million home
in Maida Vale before joining the extremist group]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2733228/The-descent-Jihadi-John-Shocking-Facebook-photos-transformation-rapper-streets-Maida-Vale-prime-suspect-brutal-beheading-journalist.html#ixzz3BO7BwEKt

If this is the Killer
he has a Rich Parents , easy life
in the London.


He has given all that up
to be hunted down out there

[King Gizzard]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ad9_1408920958

[King Gizzard]

That's some videos of the supposed killer when he was a rapper btw

[Anaesthesia]

..it just seems odd that his face was covered to be not recognised yet his voice would be easily recognisable to people who knew him and may reveal his identity..so maybe was 'set up' to think he was from the UK...

Propaganda is a terrible yet effective thing. How can we ever know for sure whether this is a true eyes / voice match? Yet it will have the effect of bringing groups like EDL / UKIP into the mix, to stir dissention.

We have to be careful. When we live in an induced climate of fear we are easily manipulable, yet the facts are actually obfuscated.

This happened with Ken Foley, how many of you remember him?