James Jordan and Gary Busey clash over "gay jokes"

[*mazedsalv**]

Gary Busey and James Jordan clash in the Celebrity Big Brother 2014 house tonight.

In this evening’s show, Leslie dons some white surgical gloves to go through the fake Duchess’ suitcase of clothes.

Joker James mimes taking his trousers down, saying: “And assume the position…”

Gary walks into this rather bizarre scene and says to James: “You are gay aren’t you?” James tries to explain to Gary that he is not gay but has lots of gay friends and is comfortable enough in his sexuality to camp it up.

Gary then asks James if he is not afraid “to get butt-f**ed” and James replies: “I’ve never hit a seventy year old before.”

But the good humour between the pair goes away as Gary then tells the group that James has a little Vaseline tube in every part of his luggage.

James tells Gary to listen to him, not interrupt him and look at him when he’s talking. James finally tells Gary that he “should be careful what you say, you might be seventy years old but be careful what you say.”

Later,James tells David he doesn’t want to talk about his row with Gary but goes into more detail with Audley and Stephanie.

Leslie says: “I ducked and ran.” David tells Lauren about the altercation and says Lauren says: “It’s a bit silly, that’s what Gary is like, you’ve got to take him for what he is.”

Afterwards, Gary and James go outside to clear the air where Gary tells James that he “didn’t mean to harm or defame him.” Gary says that he didn’t understand the routine of negativity and restriction within which he operates. James admits maybe he took it the wrong way and they shake hands.

In the Diary Room, James talks to Big Brother about Gary and says that people are going to get offended by him.

It’s a view shared by Stephanie Pratt who also talks to Big Brother and says it’s a really relaxed house and they are all really chilled apart from one person – Gary.

Stephanie suggests that someone is going to have a blow-out with him and if there were nominations tonight, everyone would nominate Gary.

http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother/193638-celebrity-big-brother-2014-gary-busey-and-james-jordan-clash-over-gay-joke.html#ixzz3AwXgfwzN

[Samm]

Welp Gary is going up then

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Gary then asks James if he is not afraid “to get butt-f**ed”

howling

[Will.]

Who was in the right? Can't read all of it!

[Liam-]

Who was in the right? Can't read all of it!

I think they both were.. Gary was just making a joke in fairness, he didnt say anything controversial or damming, but James was right to tell him that he needs to watch what he says, 6 of one half a dozen of the other really :shrug:

[Cal.]

Who was the one making the gay joke?

[Samm]

Gary

[Will.]

Oh surprised it was him but then if it was harmless...

[Cal.]

Yeah I'm surprised that it was Gary, coming into the thread I thought James would be the one making the jokes and Gary the one calling him out on them but they were harmless and he obviously didn't mean offence.

[Ramsay]

Take him down Gary!!!

[Nell_McCoy]

Gary's joke was absolutely both homophobic and vulgar and also typical from a man from his generation, that is his only "excuse" - Ashleigh's gone so I can't say "she's only 18" anymore so I'll do the same for Gary, he's over 70, has had brain surgery and knows no better. Ignorant old fool!

[Vanessa]

I'm sure Gary meant no offence and was only joking. He may be old fashioned, but he respects everyone.

[Benjamin]

I like Gary, but know that if James had been the one to say this the forum would be up in arms.

[Northern Monkey]

Seems harmless tbh.Maybe just banter that went too far.

[Vanessa]

Housemates will be picking on Gary and will nominate him every week. Hope he survives, just to piss them off. :mad:

[Heaven = Winner]

Welp, this just gives the house more reason to put up Gary every week (they were probably going to anyway, tho, after when he shushed them) :l

[Vanessa]

Welp, this just gives the house more reason to put up Gary every week (they were probably going to anyway, tho, after when he shushed them) :l

Oh well, it will keep him popular. :laugh:

[Josy]

Oh dear Gary...

[arista]

I'm sure Gary meant no offence and was only joking. He may be old fashioned, but he respects everyone.


Yes in the days when gays
were hidden

[Samm]

I like Gary, but know that if James had been the one to say this the forum would be up in arms.

This tbh

[Vanessa]

Yes in the days when gays
were hidden

He can't help how old he is. :laugh:

[Benjamin]

He can't help how old he is. :laugh:

Age isn't really an excuse though. I know plenty of people older than him who are fine.

[Vanessa]

Age isn't really an excuse though. I know plenty of people older than him who are fine.

I don't think he meant to offend anyone.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Im just gutted its nominations tonight already :(

There shouldn't be an eviction till next Wednesday.

[Vanessa]

Im just gutted its nominations tonight already :(

There shouldn't be an eviction till next Wednesday.

Gary will be up for sure. :joker:

[Pete.]

Evander teas, first evictee fodder :fc:

[Josy]

Evander teas, first evictee fodder :fc:

Pretty sure Gary couldn't care less, a few days doing nothing for a massive pay cheque? :idc:

[Sophiee]

james is spot on that gary really needs to watch what he says or else it'll be taken offensively.

[Vanessa]

Pretty sure Gary couldn't care less, a few days doing nothing for a massive pay cheque? :idc:

:clap2:

[arista]

Age isn't really an excuse though. I know plenty of people older than him who are fine.


He is stuck in a time warp.

[Pete.]

Pretty sure Gary couldn't care less, a few days doing nothing for a massive pay cheque? :idc:
He needs to leave soon for his health.

Tbh I suppose he doesn't care

[JoshBB]

Respect for James +100

[reece(:]

Gary nominated then...

[Babayaro.]

Love how James doesn't talk about it wth David but choses to with Audley and Stephanie

[bots]

Gary will be up for sure. :joker:

Doesn't mean that he will go though, there are at least 8 other hm's i would boot out before him :laugh:

[billy123]

I dont even know which one James is without checking.

[Vanessa]

Doesn't mean that he will go though, there are at least 8 other hm's i would boot out before him :laugh:

Agreed. :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Gary needs to keep his mouth shut, you cannot go around saying things like that

[chuff me dizzy]

I dont even know which one James is without checking.

Strictly bloke

[Pete.]

Gary needs to keep his mouth shut, you cannot go around saying things like that
:clap1:

[Tregard]

Gary then asks James if he is not afraid “to get butt-f**ed”

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u409/eff_that_noise/Random%20Shizz/e0a4be24.gif

[Rob!]

Well, OFCOM will no doubt be busy tonight. :idc:

[Kazanne]

Gary's joke was absolutely both homophobic and vulgar and also typical from a man from his generation, that is his only "excuse" - Ashleigh's gone so I can't say "she's only 18" anymore so I'll do the same for Gary, he's over 70, has had brain surgery and knows no better. Ignorant old fool!

People cant help what generation they are born into and how they are brought up,things were so different when he was growing up I would think.people need to realise he will be set in his ways,I doubt he meant any offense to be honest.

[CaudleHalbard]

Gary needs to keep his mouth shut, you cannot go around saying things like that

From Wiki:

On December 4, 1988, Busey was severely injured in a motorcycle accident in which he was not wearing a helmet. His skull was fractured, and doctors feared he suffered permanent brain damage.[16] During the filming of the second season of Celebrity Rehab in 2008, Busey was referred to psychiatrist Dr. Charles Sophy. Sophy suspected that Busey's brain injury has had a greater effect on him than realized. He described it as essentially weakening his mental "filters" and causing him to speak and act impulsively. Sophy recommended Busey take a medication called Depakote, with which Busey agreed.[

[chuff me dizzy]

From Wiki:

If he's not fit to be in there he shouldn't be in ,how is he going to do tasks etc ?

[bots]

Also bear in mind that everyones perception of what is humour and what isn't is very subjective.

If it was an ongoing thing, perhaps it may be an issue. It also depends what people consider good television, do they want a bit of controversy, an argument, fun or a showmance. There are a limited number of options before it all becomes very boring

[Firewire]

hope he goes tbh

[Vanessa]

From Wiki:

not everyone knows about this.

[billy123]

hope he goes tbhIf its VTS he will be in there until the end if its VTE he will go soon.

[CaudleHalbard]

If he's not fit to be in there he shouldn't be in ,how is he going to do tasks etc ?

By my count he's appeared in 84 films since his head injury - not to mention Celebrity Apprentice (US) in 2013.

So I guess BB felt they could chance it! ;)

[Sophiee]

People cant help what generation they are born into and how they are brought up,things were so different when he was growing up I would think.people need to realise he will be set in his ways,I doubt he meant any offense to be honest.
'set in his ways' isn't an alternative for being ignorant.

[chuff me dizzy]

By my count he's appeared in 84 films since his head injury - not to mention Celebrity Apprentice (US) in 2013.

So I guess BB felt they could chance it! ;)

No offence, but if Im honest i really don't care about how many films he's done ,I judge him on him being in BB ,his credentials don't impress me

[Firewire]

If he's not fit to be in there he shouldn't be in ,how is he going to do tasks etc ?

she

[chuff me dizzy]

she

Garys having sex change too is he ? God thats something I have to see ,good luck to the surgeon

[VanessaFeltz.]

GET GARY OUT

[Firewire]

Garys having sex change too is he ? God thats something I have to see ,good luck to the surgeon

I thought this was about Kellie omg because I read the thread wrong (I had a thread relating to Kellie open too)

forget i said anything

[CaudleHalbard]

No offence, but if Im honest i really don't care about how many films he's done ,I judge him on him being in BB ,his credentials don't impress me

Well he will presumably have to have passed the BB's psych tests - and that's what they go on... not on what fans on forums think! ;)

[Cal.]

If it's face to face no one will nominate him

[Locke.]

Gary is going to say offensive things throughout the entire show, that is just the type of person he is.

He won't go first though, not a chance.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Good on James for pulling Gary up on it, I don't care what age you are there no need to have attudies like that, hope he's evicted soon, he's been my least favourite since launch night.

[*mazedsalv**]

I know for sure Gary is not homophobic, I have seen him on numerous TV shows, and the amount of times he has said he is accepting of everyone, I guess because in the UK, we have turned into a right PC place, in the US, you can say something like that knowing you won't get in trouble because in your own heart, you know you are not homophobic, but in the UK, everything is off limits.

[billy123]

Its vote to save so he can behave as badly as he wants now and still stay.

[Videostar]

Good on James for pulling Gary up on it, I don't care what age you are there no need to have attudies like that, hope he's evicted soon, he's been my least favourite since launch night.

Wasn't it James that started this gay thing tho...bending over and being silly?

[Nell_McCoy]

Even if I were convinced that his remarks were not homophobic "Butt-****ed" is hardly becoming language for a gentleman in his 70's who is a guest in the country and on public television :)

[bots]

There will always be conflict between comedy and political correctness. Its the nature of the beast. Personally, I think its best not to take these things to seriously, I'm sure the housemates aren't, its a show

[Videostar]

There will always be conflict between comedy and political correctness. Its the nature of the beast. Personally, I think its best not to take these things to seriously, I'm sure the housemates aren't, its a show

James seemed to make a big deal out of it. :sleep:

I do hope James isn't a silly PC person...that would be very disappointing. :nono:

[letmein]

I'm sure Gary meant no offence and was only joking. He may be old fashioned, but he respects everyone.

It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to offend. The fact of the matter is he did. That's not an excuse.

[letmein]

I know for sure Gary is not homophobic, I have seen him on numerous TV shows, and the amount of times he has said he is accepting of everyone, I guess because in the UK, we have turned into a right PC place, in the US, you can say something like that knowing you won't get in trouble because in your own heart, you know you are not homophobic

lmao, what a load of ridiculous rubbish.

[Cherie]

james is spot on that gary really needs to watch what he says or else it'll be taken offensively.

And that is the problem with the super sensitive and uber PC UK

[Cherie]

It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to offend. The fact of the matter is he did. That's not an excuse.

Who offended you most James or Gary?

[Ammi]

It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to offend. The fact of the matter is he did. That's not an excuse.

..while I agree that homophobic comments aren't good, I do also think that 'intent' is just as important and also the context of him following on a 'joke' that someone else started...in fact the person who took the most offence started it with his 'jokes'...

..I don't know, maybe I'm looking at it all wrong but I haven't heard of Gary making homophobic comments which have offended in the past and he is 70yrs old, so I would find it hard to believe that if he was homophobic, he would go on a UK reality show and 'reveal' that within a few days, when it's never been something that we've seen before..?...that doesn't make sense to me...and maybe I'm wrong again but although no prejudice remarks are good..I think there also has to be humour allowed for otherwise it all gets a bit silly and no one can feel they can joke about anything..of course, a joke that is meant offensively shouldn't never be acceptable but I don't think this was....

[lostalex]

The only one who is homophobic is James, because he thinks being called gay is offensive, why is he so offended being thought of as gay unless he thinks there is something werong with being gay?

If someone called me straight i wouldn't get so angry.

**** him.

That being said, Gary is annoying and aggressive. but he's not homophobic.

[Ammi]

The only one who is homophobic is James, because he thinks being called gay is offensive, why is he so offended being thought of as gay unless he thinks there is something werong with being gay?

If someone called me straight i wouldn't get so angry.

**** him.

That being said, Gary is annoying and aggressive. but he's not homophobic.

..do you know of Gary ever saying anything homophobic before in interviews or anything..?..because it's really odd that he would 'reveal' a prejudice after 70yrs of age that he hasn't done before within days of going into the house...

[delta]

FFS- same old judgemental sh!t on this forum by the same posters.

If you look at the clip back you will see all 3 were making light of a possible homosexual 'happening' Leslie donned the white glove , Jordan bent over and as said " assume the position" Leslie then " made a one fingered stabbing motion towards the bent over James Jordan, it was at this point that Gary made - what he thought-rightly or wrongly his remark about getting butt fcuked.

How the hell you can isolate Gary for that is ridiculous. What you can say about the incident is that James Jordan is a GRADE A PR!CK.

First of all you don't threaten a 70 year old man.

Secondly, it' s quite clear that there isn't something quite right with Gary, so you cut him some slack.

James Jordan - as Louis Spence says- is an odious son of a biatch and feels threatened by Gary. There was no need to try and show Gary up or make a point of it, it could have passed as - at worst- an awkward moment.

[lostalex]

..do you know of Gary ever saying anything homophobic before in interviews or anything..?..because it's really odd that he would 'reveal' a prejudice after 70yrs of age that he hasn't done before within days of going into the house...

nope, i've seen him on many other american reality shows, and he is always annoying and aggressive, but he's not hateful or homophobic at all.

[Marsh.]

It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to offend. The fact of the matter is he did. That's not an excuse.

Offended who? The straight man?

[lostalex]

FFS- same old judgemental sh!t on this forum by the same posters.

If you look at the clip back you will see all 3 were making light of a possible homosexual 'happening' Leslie donned the white glove , Jordan bent over and as said " assume the position" Leslie then " made a one fingered stabbing motion towards the bent over James Jordan, it was at this point that Gary made - what he thought-rightly or wrongly his remark about getting butt fcuked.

How the hell you can isolate Gary for that is ridiculous. What you can say about the incident is that James Jordan is a GRADE A PR!CK.

First of all you don't threaten a 70 year old man.

Secondly, it' s quite clear that there isn't something quite right with Gary, so you cut him some slack.

James Jordan - as Louis Spence says- is an odious son of a biatch and feels threatened by Gary. There was no need to try and show Gary up or make a point of it, it could have passed as - at worst- an awkward moment.

perfect post. i saw it that way too.

[Ammi]

nope, i've seen him on many other reality shows, and he is always annoying and aggressive, but he's not hateful or homophobic at all.

..see, he just couldn't repress that with his type of personality for 70yrs could he..?..and then suddenly he goes on UK reality and something takes him over/he's possessed by anti gay demons..:laugh:...with other past BB housemates, like Ron Atkinson, Jim Davidson etc..?...their whole controversies is because they had been known to view their prejudice which is how it would more likely be....

[lostalex]

..see, he just couldn't repress that with his type of personality for 70yrs could he..?..and then suddenly he goes on UK reality and something takes him over/he's possessed by anti gay demons..:laugh:...with other past BB housemates, like Ron Atkinson, Jim Davidson etc..?...their whole controversies is because they had been known to view their prejudice which is how it would more likely be....

I don't think Gary's anti-gay at all though, i think the only reason he said that is because James says he is straight, so he thought he could joke with him about it. If Gary really though he was gay i don;t think Gary would have said that. I think James was just being overly sensitive because he really is gay.

[bots]

It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to offend. The fact of the matter is he did. That's not an excuse.

If everyone went through life not able to do anything in case one might offend someone, there would be no point in living. Complete pseudo PC bollocks

[Ammi]

I don't think Gary's anti-gay at all though, i think the only reason he said that is because James says he is straight, so he thought he could joke with him about it. If Gary really though he was gay i don;t think Gary would have said that. I think James was just being overly sensitive because he really is gay.

..hmm, I don't know if he's gay or not..I was thinking that his over-sensitivity could be that maybe he was teased/sniped at and insulted when he was younger for wanting to be a dancer..a bit 'Billy Elliot'..but even if that was so, then him being so over-sensitive for that reason would be in itself a prejudice, if that makes sense..?...

[lostalex]

There's no doubt that Gary is socially unaware and totally inappropriate, but that doesn't make him hateful or homophobic. **** he's just trying to relate to people and it's clear he's having trouble understanding people both because it;s a foreign country and his hearing is not good. That's what i see.

[waterhog]

i think he is very argumentative - this is not helped by his hearing problems. i am not totally convinced any of his points stand up as i am not sure of the points he is trying to argue are relevant. twists and turns make this very hard to judge.

[Cherie]

i think he is very argumentative - this is not helped by his hearing problems. i am not totally convinced any of his points stand up as i am not sure of the points he is trying to argue are relevant. twists and turns make this very hard to judge.

I just think it was an off the cuff remark that he didn't even consider would be jumped on

[Macie Lightfoot]

Say what you want about James but Gary's comment was really graphic and I don't think just because he's a crazy person and "rofl it's Gary Busey" means he should be exempt from any criticism.

[Beso]

Thing is, james wasnt making a gay joke..he was making a joke about a rectal examination from a doctor..gary made the gay joke..bloody funny it was as well.

[G1dds]

Seriously - at no point did I think Gary was being homophobic......and with the way James was coming back with quips like "I like a cheeky finger" clearly neither did he. How many times have jokes been said about dropping the soap in the shower etc. They are just tongue in cheek off the cuff comments.

James suddenly saw an opportunity to what he believed was to look like a hero and Alpha male. What he came across like was an arrogant pr!ck who I dislike more than I did before.

[Ellen]

Seriously - at no point did I think Gary was being homophobic......and with the way James was coming back with quips like "I like a cheeky finger" clearly neither did he. How many times have jokes been said about dropping the soap in the shower etc. They are just tongue in cheek off the cuff comments.

James suddenly saw an opportunity to what he believed was to look like a hero and Alpha male. What he came across like was an arrogant pr!ck who I dislike more than I did before.


Agree ^^^ :thumbs:

[poppsywoppsy]

FFS- same old judgemental sh!t on this forum by the same posters.

If you look at the clip back you will see all 3 were making light of a possible homosexual 'happening' Leslie donned the white glove , Jordan bent over and as said " assume the position" Leslie then " made a one fingered stabbing motion towards the bent over James Jordan, it was at this point that Gary made - what he thought-rightly or wrongly his remark about getting butt fcuked.

How the hell you can isolate Gary for that is ridiculous. What you can say about the incident is that James Jordan is a GRADE A PR!CK.

First of all you don't threaten a 70 year old man.

Secondly, it' s quite clear that there isn't something quite right with Gary, so you cut him some slack.

James Jordan - as Louis Spence says- is an odious son of a biatch and feels threatened by Gary. There was no need to try and show Gary up or make a point of it, it could have passed as - at worst- an awkward moment.

Well said, I agree totally

[bez87]

Not being funny but alot are siding with James?? I mean honestly it was a few jokes, I found it all funny, the fact is James is a stuck up know it all who thinks he knows best, if James did not want to get Gay jokes then why the hell did he bend over in the first place to a Gay man and act out a Gay proactive suggestion??? no one ever talks about that part always that gary took it a little bit further even tho it was funny as hell, one message for you James if you can't take a laugh about it, then don't do gay things in the first place.

[FlippingEck]

Yeah I'm surprised that it was Gary, coming into the thread I thought James would be the one making the jokes and Gary the one calling him out on them but they were harmless and he obviously didn't mean offence.

So if it had been James making the joke, would it have been as "harmless" and without offence?

[FlippingEck]

Well said, I agree totally



HE DID NOT THREATEN HIM!!!!!!! Good Lord.. did I watch a different show??

[FlippingEck]

I just think it was an off the cuff remark that he didn't even consider would be jumped on


The thing is.. James wasn't making a homosexual reference. He was making a reference to a doctors examination.. It was Gary ASSUMING it was a homosexual reference based on the fact that a) Lesley is gay and b) James is a dancer.

The odious little cretin in all this is Busey. He needs removing from the house asap because he is not psychologically fit to be there

[bez87]

The thing is.. James wasn't making a homosexual reference. He was making a reference to a doctors examination.. It was Gary ASSUMING it was a homosexual reference based on the fact that a) Lesley is gay and b) James is a dancer.

The odious little cretin in all this is Busey. He needs removing from the house asap because he is not psychologically fit to be there

Not being funny but bending over to a Gay man asking him to insert, is deffiantly refering to a homosexual remark what ever way you take it, gary was just being funny yes maybe he went a bit over board pushing it but there was no need for that kind of response, i calm and laugh it off response and a ok now it was funny but lets leave it, to me it actually showed how insecure james is about homosexuality, I mean him bending over to lesley could of been took as over the top.

[Shaun]

He was making a reference to a doctors examination.. It was Gary ASSUMING it was a homosexual reference based on the fact that a) Lesley is gay and b) James is a dancer.

LMAO

Oh god, this is too much

[FlippingEck]

I just think it was an off the cuff remark that he didn't even consider would be jumped on

oh well if it was just off the cuff homophobia, rather than deep routed nasty bilious homophobia, that's perfectly acceptable. My apologies.

[Robodog]

FFS- same old judgemental sh!t on this forum by the same posters.

If you look at the clip back you will see all 3 were making light of a possible homosexual 'happening' Leslie donned the white glove , Jordan bent over and as said " assume the position" Leslie then " made a one fingered stabbing motion towards the bent over James Jordan, it was at this point that Gary made - what he thought-rightly or wrongly his remark about getting butt fcuked.

How the hell you can isolate Gary for that is ridiculous. What you can say about the incident is that James Jordan is a GRADE A PR!CK.

First of all you don't threaten a 70 year old man.

Secondly, it' s quite clear that there isn't something quite right with Gary, so you cut him some slack.

James Jordan - as Louis Spence says- is an odious son of a biatch and feels threatened by Gary. There was no need to try and show Gary up or make a point of it, it could have passed as - at worst- an awkward moment.

Lot of truth in this post. Explains the whole jokey build up as it was.

James was way OTT the way he snapped at Gary - "look at me when i talk to you, not them - at me" etc.

Like who does he think he is talking to Gary like that?? Especially when HE was the one who started the banter!! Gary just joined in!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meanwhile the wee gay one from Geordie Shore is getting away with it all


crafty

[Cal.]

I don't think Gary's anti-gay at all though, i think the only reason he said that is because James says he is straight, so he thought he could joke with him about it. If Gary really though he was gay i don;t think Gary would have said that. I think James was just being overly sensitive because he really is gay.

I don't agree about James being gay but I agree about everything else. Gary is a very open and spiritual person, there's no way he's anti-anybody.

[Vanessa]

I don't agree about James being gay but I agree about everything else. Gary is a very open and spiritual person, there's no way he's anti-anybody.

Agreed. He seems very chilled out and relaxed to me.

[FlippingEck]

Lot of truth in this post. Explains the whole jokey build up as it was.

James was way OTT the way he snapped at Gary - "look at me when i talk to you, not them - at me" etc.

Like who does he think he is talking to Gary like that?? Especially when HE was the one who started the banter!! Gary just joined in!

When someone is talking to you, it is polite to look at them. It is not polite to look around to see who else is watching to make you feel better about yourself..

James and Lesley were having a bit of fun.. not a single homosexual innuendo in it.. and Busey butted in where he wasn't needed.. He's a confrontational arrogant man and other housemates have said how they feel intimidated by him.

[chuff me dizzy]

When someone is talking to you, it is polite to look at them. It is not polite to look around to see who else is watching to make you feel better about yourself..

James and Lesley were having a bit of fun.. not a single homosexual innuendo in it.. and Busey butted in where he wasn't needed.. He's a confrontational arrogant man and other housemates have said how they feel intimidated by him.

Can I correct you please ? ALL the hm8s have said they feel intimidated or scared by him

[flamingGalah!]

I was totally on Gary's side... James is an odious, argumentative, attention seeker...It was ok for him to joke about & pretend to be gay, but then for Gary to make a jokey comment was wrong?! Not being funny but I assumed James was gay anyway, not sure why he got so het up about someone jokingly assuming he was either, me thinks he doth protest too much...

[FlippingEck]

He walked in on a joke, no one mentioned gay apart from Busey. He had no clue what the joke was.. and neither it seems does the majority of the people on this forum. James was making reference to going to a doctors for a rectal examination..Busey ASSUMED he was making a homosexual reference, purely based on Lesley's sexuality.

James did not have any problem with the assumption of his sexuality, the problem arose because of Busey's arrogance. He is a rude arrogant man, and he should not be in BB.

[Patricia4]

James is trying to take over in there he's a nasty piece of work.

[FlippingEck]

Take over what? that's so funny.

[poppsywoppsy]

I am on Gary's side here, even BB has now warned James over his intolerance.

Gary is what he is, old school actor, damaged and out of his comfort zone.

Jordan is a dancer, sacked for his argumentative behaviour, so it is a recognised fact that he is volatile.

He is in no position to educate anyone, he needs to look at his own intolerance before pointing the finger.

David has little else to offer but his body building and personality seems to be totally lacking by his childish laughing at others expense, there is nothing else interesting but his torso.

I have laughed with Gary far more than at James, David, Ricci and Audley, to me that is more appealing than ego ridden fools.

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I am on Gary's side here, even BB has now warned James over his intolerance. He wasn't warned by BB.. he was asked to guide the others to tolerate Busey

Gary is what he is, old school actor, damaged and out of his comfort zone. Damaged? He shouldn't be in the show reaping the cash if he cannot handle being in a social experiment.. basically if he cannot handle being a lab rat for 4 weeks.. leave the cash and go home

Jordan is a dancer, sacked for his argumentative behaviour, so it is a recognised fact that he is volatile. Why do you think he was asked on BB???????

He is in no position to educate anyone, he needs to look at his own intolerance before pointing the finger. He's clearly better in this kind of situation than Busey is. Busey is rude and obnoxious and thinks the world revolves around him. :cheer2: NEWSFLASH :cheer2: It doesn't/

David has little else to offer but his body building and personality seems to be totally lacking by his childish laughing at others expense, there is nothing else interesting but his torso. A little judgemental of you considering his limited airtime..

I have laughed with Gary far more than at James, David, Ricci and Audley, to me that is more appealing than ego ridden fools. Notice how you put WITH Gary, but AT the others. hmmmm. :nono:

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Can I correct you please ? ALL the hm8s have said they feel intimidated or scared by him

You can Chuff.. I apologise. (But I don't think James/David/Audley are intimidated by him to be honest )

[CaudleHalbard]

I suspect everyone feels Gary is like a ticking time bomb..........

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Wasn't it James that started this gay thing tho...bending over and being silly?

no. you need to watch it again, and listen this time.

[arista]

I suspect everyone feels Gary is like a ticking time bomb..........


No Little Les
is the time bomb


Life In The Fast Lane

[Razor]

I felt sorry for Gary and felt like it was just the excuse james was looking for to jump all over him.

[sassysocks]

Gary's joke was absolutely both homophobic and vulgar and also typical from a man from his generation, that is his only "excuse" - Ashleigh's gone so I can't say "she's only 18" anymore so I'll do the same for Gary, he's over 70, has had brain surgery and knows no better. Ignorant old fool!

Making cracks about a person's age and mental health and stereotyping them accordingly lacks insight. Worse than an 'ignorant old fool' is an ignorant young fool.

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Making cracks about a person's age and mental health and stereotyping them accordingly lacks insight. Worse than an 'ignorant old fool' is an ignorant young fool.

He wasn't making cracks about Gary's age. Read it again..

Ignorance is ignorance, age is irrelevant. Gary Busey is a ridiculously rude ignorant arrogant man.. his age really is irrelevant. There's NO excuse for homophobia. NONE. EVER.

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He wasn't making cracks about Gary's age. Read it again..

Ignorance is ignorance, age is irrelevant. Gary Busey is a ridiculously rude ignorant arrogant man.. his age really is irrelevant. There's NO excuse for homophobia. NONE. EVER.

Does that not depend on your definition of homophobia.

To many Gary was joining in on what he saw as a joke. He was then jumped on by an 'over-senstive' James who lacked any such sensitivity when making unkind comments about Gary's hearing probems and cracking jokes about hitting 70 year-olds. Where was the sensitivity and consieration when joking and taking the piss out of an old man when encouraging someone to jump into bed with him when he was sleeping?

It seems in James's book, what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. He can dish it out, but can't take - grade A hypocrite.

it.

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Does that not depend on your definition of homophobia.

To many Gary was joining in on what he saw as a joke. He was then jumped on by an 'over-senstive' James who lacked any such sensitivity when making unkind comments about Gary's hearing probems and cracking jokes about hitting 70 year-olds. Where was the sensitivity and consieration when joking and taking the piss out of an old man when encouraging someone to jump into bed with him when he was sleeping?

It seems in James's book, what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. He can dish it out, but can't take - grade A hypocrite.

it.

It wasn't even a joke about being gay... BUSEY assumed it was about being gay based on Leslie's sexuality. Arrogant little man.