that last bit...

[Denver]

I found very uncomfortable and should not of been aloud to happen and it was disrespectful to laugh in his face

[Cal.]

I agree

[zakman440]

I found it very disrespectful and it just made them look like twats tbh.

[Josy]

This kind of thing always happens and it pisses me off, if a hm wants to sleep at bed time then fgs leave them alone.

[Calderyon]

Was very uneasy to watch that. Felt quite sorry for Gary.

[Denver]

This kind of thing always happens and it pisses me off, if a hm wants to sleep at bed time then fgs leave them alone.

It happened to jim last series and lesley brain bb8 i do find it horrible

[Cherie]

Horrible oiks, really surprised that practically every HM was involved as well :umm2:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yeah i felt bad for Gary but I disagree that it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

What are BB supposed to do ban rock, paper, scissors?

[Liam-]

I felt incredibly uncomfortable watching that, the fact that they made a joke at the expense of a vulnerable older man, where he blatantly knew that he was the butt of the joke was disgusting.. And they did it with great joy, even after acknowledging that he would probably kick off

[Amy Jade]

Audley, David and Ricci really went down in my estimations. I get a joke but that was just mean and their laughing was horrible.

At least Steph, George, Frenchy, Lauren and Kellie walked away straight after and didn't stand around laughing like Audley and David

[Denver]

Yeah i felt bad for Gary but I disagree that it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

What are BB supposed to do ban rock, paper, scissors?

They knew what was happening should of called ricci to the diary room

[Lostie!]

I hate it when they don't let people sleep. :rant:

[rubberface]

That was DISGUSTING...

The man is clearly unwell and is 70 who needs some rest.. hell he was actually sleeping!! To bother him and disrespect him like that is vile... and to laugh about it like that as well!!


Ugh it boils my blood that he is the one who actually got the career and a kid from jordie shore and a kelly brook boyfriend take the piss out of him is **************************

[CaudleHalbard]

I think Gary is going to become a bit of a target for the wannabe "alpha males"

[Alf]

I don't see any harm in it, they were only playing. He obviously does all their heads in all day and they were just getting a bit of payback.

Is all that came out of that was that Ricci looked like a knob.

[Denver]

I don't see any harm in it, they were only playing. He obviously does all their heads in all day and they were just getting a bit of payback.

Is all that came out of that was that Ricci looked like a knob.

Everyone but white dee and lesley acting very disrespectful tonight i would never dream of doing that to anybody

[Nell_McCoy]

I felt incredibly uncomfortable watching that, the fact that they made a joke at the expense of a vulnerable older man, where he blatantly knew that he was the butt of the joke was disgusting.. And they did it with great joy, even after acknowledging that he would probably kick off

Totally agree.

[lime]

Really feels like the younger males want Gary to kick off....but yes uncomfortable to watch

[Sophiee]

it was hilarious though :laugh: gary's face was a picture.

[Denver]

it was hilarious though :laugh: gary's face was a picture.

There is nothing hilarious about taking advantage of a mentally unstable human being he done nothing to deserve that

[rubberface]

it was hilarious though :laugh: gary's face was a picture.

I didnt even crack a smile :shrug:

[waterhog]

he should have been advised this could happen.

[Jules2]

Really feels like the younger males want Gary to kick off....but yes uncomfortable to watch

I would say you are right, schoolground behaviour and they should know better. They let the Brits down good and proper.

[Jules2]

he should have been advised this could happen.

Not to be the butt of a cruel joke, it was meant disrespectfully.

[CaudleHalbard]

Really feels like the younger males want Gary to kick off....but yes uncomfortable to watch
Indeed so that can "stand up to him" and show off their testosterone!

Even at 70, Gary is a bit of a scary guy for some people.

[Sophiee]

There is nothing hilarious about taking advantage of a mentally unstable human being he done nothing to deserve that
having a laugh is hardly in the same league as 'taking advantage of'.

[Denver]

having a laugh is hardly in the same league as 'taking advantage of'.

He is a man who has brain damage and is trying to sleep they knew he was unstable and took advantage and why laugh in his face

[CaudleHalbard]

They were probably pissed, so anything seems hilarious.......

[rionablue]

The way I see it is that Gary made himself an open target the previous night trying to shush the housemates in the bedroom. I knew it would come back to haunt him. They now want to play pranks on him to irk him. It is certainly wrong to do so but if he can find a way of laughing at them they might leave him alone.

I am beginning to like Gary but I still feel that Big Brother is NOT the series for him to appear in. There are always night time shenanigans, loud housemates and lewd comments. If I were his age and having his stature as an actor I would run a mile from BB no matter WHAT they offered me. Just my humble opinion

[Absorption]

He is a man who has brain damage and is trying to sleep they knew he was unstable and took advantage and why laugh in his face

I agree with this and the original post.

Gary may not be the easiest person to live with but many of the reasons for that stem from health issues.

"So what? That ain't the other HM's ****ing fault, is it?" may be the gist of some people's thoughts on this. No, but it will be the measure of their decency and compassion as human beings.

Even with that to one side, you had a bunch of younger people who should know better being incredibly unkind and thoughtless to a man in his 70s who was trying to sleep.

I found it probably more unpleasant to watch than most, if not all, of this year's civilian BB altercations.

It was cheap.

[Brother Leon]

Felt bad for Gary. They could of and should of made dares that wouldn't bother someone's sleep.

[Pincho Paxton]

It was a stupid joke made by stupid people.

[the truth]

everyone who was involved is guilty of bullying an old man. an old man 8000 miles from home. just so typical of big brother. that type of thing is bullying and big brother should reprimand every last twat for it

[LukeB]

felt sorry for gary then tbh

[Vicky.]

Yeah it was quite uncomfortable to watch really.

[Sophiee]

everyone who was involved is guilty of bullying an old man. an old man 8000 miles from home. just so typical of big brother. that type of thing is bullying and big brother should reprimand every last twat for it
it was not bullying :joker: it happened once, talk about overreaction.

[Denver]

it was not bullying :joker: it happened once, talk about overreaction.

I cant believe your defending them this is what is wromg with the world today youth dont respect there olders

[Sophiee]

I cant believe your defending them this is what is wromg with the world today youth dont respect there olders
'elders' should not be respected if they don't show respect themselves, being old is no excuse to deserve respect. it works both ways.

[the truth]

it was not bullying :joker: it happened once, talk about overreaction.

it was bullying, anyone who says otherwise condones bullying
lets all mock and threaten and shout at and laugh at and wake up the deaf 70 year old brain damaged texan from 8000 miles away....complete and utter bullying. sleep deprivation alone is nasty......big brother should have warned james over the hit a 70 year old comment

[Sophiee]

it was bullying, anyone who says otherwise condones bullying
lets all mock and threaten and shout at and laugh at and wake up the deaf 70 year old brain damaged texan from 8000 miles away....complete and utter bullying. sleep deprivation alone is nasty......big brother should have warned james over the hit a 70 year old comment
so waking somebody up is bullying now? :facepalm: they've only been in there for about 48 hours and it's not like they've been discluding him in all of their conversations or anything like that, it was a bit of fun.

[Dollface]

Nah i really didn't like what they did to Gary in tonights ep. The over-the-top laughing afterwards was out of order -Gary must've known they were laughing at him, imagine how he must have felt?

How would you feel if that was your dad? @Sophiee

[cfromhx02]

OK but he did bring it on himself with his "up the ar*e" comments to James & "his tubes of vaseline" comments about Leslie.

He's a bigot who tried to lie his way out of it saying it was a joke.

I'm no fan of James but that doesn't stop Gary being an uneducated bigot, that's why they joked that he'd went to sleep with a man,

As Gary and his supporters here would say they should just say to Gary "it was only a joke"

see how he likes it, when others use a lie about it being just a joke to cover up the true meaning behind it.

They clearly did it to show quite correctly in my opinion that they knew Gary wasn't joking and they don't like him for being the prejudiced bully he is.

Bet not many on here talk about him being a bully.

He was over the top when he ordered James to stand up wasn't he ?

[Sophiee]

OK but he did bring it on himself with his "up the ar*e" comments to James & "his tubes of vaseline" comments about Leslie.

He's a bigot who tried to lie his way out of it saying it was a joke.

I'm no fan of James but that doesn't stop Gary being an uneducated bigot, that's why they joked that he'd went to sleep with a man,

As Gary and his supporters here would say they should just say to Gary "it was only a joke"

see how he likes it, when others use a lie about it being just a joke to cover up the true meaning behind it.

They clearly did it to show quite correctly in my opinion that they knew Gary wasn't joking and they don't like him for being the prejudiced bully he is.

Bet not many on here talk about him being a bully.

He was over the top when he ordered James to stand up wasn't he ?
:worship: good to read a sensible and unbiased post on the situation.

[Mick]

I think Gary is going to become a bit of a target for the wannabe "alpha males"

Agree and I am wondering if this was also James intention. If so then imo he got the worst of it.

Gary can come across as rude but until we know a bit more about him then I am thinking best reserve judgement. If found guilty then take him down via reasoned argument and nominations not veiled threats or stupid pranks.

[Vanessa]

I don't mind this. It will make him more popular. ;)

[Natalie.]

Wasn't funny and was hard to watch

[Denver]

OK but he did bring it on himself with his "up the ar*e" comments to James & "his tubes of vaseline" comments about Leslie.

He's a bigot who tried to lie his way out of it saying it was a joke.

I'm no fan of James but that doesn't stop Gary being an uneducated bigot, that's why they joked that he'd went to sleep with a man,

As Gary and his supporters here would say they should just say to Gary "it was only a joke"

see how he likes it, when others use a lie about it being just a joke to cover up the true meaning behind it.

They clearly did it to show quite correctly in my opinion that they knew Gary wasn't joking and they don't like him for being the prejudiced bully he is.

Bet not many on here talk about him being a bully.

He was over the top when he ordered James to stand up wasn't he ?

so because he argued he deserves to be bullied

[bots]

OK but he did bring it on himself with his "up the ar*e" comments to James & "his tubes of vaseline" comments about Leslie.

He's a bigot who tried to lie his way out of it saying it was a joke.

I'm no fan of James but that doesn't stop Gary being an uneducated bigot, that's why they joked that he'd went to sleep with a man,

As Gary and his supporters here would say they should just say to Gary "it was only a joke"

see how he likes it, when others use a lie about it being just a joke to cover up the true meaning behind it.

They clearly did it to show quite correctly in my opinion that they knew Gary wasn't joking and they don't like him for being the prejudiced bully he is.

Bet not many on here talk about him being a bully.

He was over the top when he ordered James to stand up wasn't he ?

The polarity in views is quite astonishing. I really cannot imagine how it could be possible to come up with a statement like this after viewing the highlights.

[rubymoo]

The boys came across as twats, why every year do housemates have no respect for those sleeping in the bedroom?

[waterhog]

The boys came across as twats, why every year do housemates have no respect for those sleeping in the bedroom?

like you are considering garys age - you have to consider the young ones age. they are all excited - in a new environment - maybe a little drunk and have no outside pressure ie getting up for work - they must be allowed to enjoy themselves.


i thought that was hallirious how it ended and yes i have sympathy for gary and to show it i will include that in my next poem.

[rubymoo]

like you are considering garys age - you have to consider the young ones age. they are all excited - in a new environment - maybe a little drunk and have no outside pressure ie getting up for work - they must be allowed to enjoy themselves.


i thought that was hallirious how it ended and yes i have sympathy for gary and to show it i will include that in my next poem.

I was brought up to respect my elders, Gary to me would be like my dad's age, i couldn't be disrespectful to someone of that age, it's about compassion, empathy and patience all of which has escaped some (not all!) of the younger generation, yes they want to have fun and that's great, but then have fun elsewhere!

And i look forward to reading your poem:spin:

[Northern Monkey]

It was a stupid joke made by stupid people.

Yes,This.

[Nell_McCoy]

it was not bullying :joker: it happened once, talk about overreaction.

It is quite possible for an isolated incident to happen and that incident be a case of bullying. There is always a FIRST incident, if responsible, decent people intervene it can prevent further incidents. (I do hope you are not a teacher)

[Vanessa]

Don't worry for Gary, everyone. He can stand up for himself. He's a smart guy.

[the truth]

sleep deprivation and bullying is worse when aimed at elderly people with health problems. thats what made it even worse. horrible cowards

[Nell_McCoy]

sleep deprivation and bullying is worse when aimed at elderly people with health problems. thats what made it even worse. horrible cowards

I agree.

[FlippingEck]

That was DISGUSTING...

The man is clearly unwell and is 70 who needs some rest.. hell he was actually sleeping!! To bother him and disrespect him like that is vile... and to laugh about it like that as well!!


Ugh it boils my blood that he is the one who actually got the career and a kid from jordie shore and a kelly brook boyfriend take the piss out of him is **************************


Its BIG BROTHER. It happens. If his age/health is a problem, he shouldn't be there.. which is exactly what I have said from day 1. He needs to be removed. he is not psychologically fit to be in that house.

[FlippingEck]

I wondered how long it would take for that to be considered Bullying!!!!!!!!!
It wasn't nice.. but it happens every single year. It's big brother for crying out loud.

[lostalex]

let poor Gary sleep plzzz. :(

he's got it hard enough as it is.

[FlippingEck]

let poor Gary sleep plzzz. :(

he's got it hard enough as it is.

shouldn't be in there

[Livia]

I think Gary is going to become a bit of a target for the wannabe "alpha males"

I think you're right CH. Sadly, if you rolled all the wannabe alphas together you still wouldn't get one real man.

[Vanessa]

I think you're right CH. Sadly, if you rolled all the wannabe alphas together you still wouldn't get one real man.

:laugh:

[Livia]

Its BIG BROTHER. It happens. If his age/health is a problem, he shouldn't be there.. which is exactly what I have said from day 1. He needs to be removed. he is not psychologically fit to be in that house.

All they need to do is keep the noise down in the bedroom. Unless they're ****ing stupid or have no manners at all it shouldn't be a problem for them. Take it into the garden, scream and shout all you like. Suggesting someone who's older shouldn't be in there because people can't keep one room - the bedroom - quiet for sleeping is ridiculous.

How about taking out the stupid people? THEY shouldn't be in there.

[waterhog]

with all due respect - can we be quiet and stop posting i am trying to sleep. this is not a good point - this is big brother not big bore.

[FlippingEck]

All they need to do is keep the noise down in the bedroom. Unless they're ****ing stupid or have no manners at all it shouldn't be a problem for them. Take it into the garden, scream and shout all you like. Suggesting someone who's older shouldn't be in there because people can't keep one room - the bedroom - quiet for sleeping is ridiculous.

How about taking out the stupid people? THEY shouldn't be in there.


It is BIG BROTHER.
I am not suggesting he should not be there because he wants to sleep... I am saying if Busey needs special treatment he needs to be removed. Is that easier to understand?

[lostalex]

shouldn't be in there

so disabled people should just be shut away? no compassion or consideration for them?

[Pincho Paxton]

People say 'It's Big Brother' like that has anything to do with getting some sleep.

[Livia]

It is BIG BROTHER.
I am not suggesting he should not be there because he wants to sleep... I am saying if Busey needs special treatment he needs to be removed. Is that easier to understand?

Firstly, no need for capital letters. And the sarcasm at the end makes you look small. Speak to me like that again and I'll report you.

You keep harping on about his age and his health, no one else has said he needs special treatment, not even Gary himself. Just you.

[Livia]

People say 'It's Big Brother' like that has anything to do with getting some sleep.

I know... like perhaps we may have stumbled onto Channel 5 and not been clear about what it is we're watching.

[Livia]

so disabled people should just be shut away? no compassion or consideration for them?

And older people, apparently...

[Sophiee]

It is quite possible for an isolated incident to happen and that incident be a case of bullying. There is always a FIRST incident, if responsible, decent people intervene it can prevent further incidents. (I do hope you are not a teacher)
of course it can lead to bullying but that's only if it happens multiple times. people are just jumping to conclusions as always.

[Dollface]

All they need to do is keep the noise down in the bedroom. Unless they're ****ing stupid or have no manners at all it shouldn't be a problem for them. Take it into the garden, scream and shout all you like. Suggesting someone who's older shouldn't be in there because people can't keep one room - the bedroom - quiet for sleeping is ridiculous.

How about taking out the stupid people? THEY shouldn't be in there.

:clap2:

[FlippingEck]

Firstly, no need for capital letters. And the sarcasm at the end makes you look small. Speak to me like that again and I'll report you.

You keep harping on about his age and his health, no one else has said he needs special treatment, not even Gary himself. Just you.


Report me for explaining myself? Really? I was merely confirming that the re-wording of my post made it easier for you to understand. It's called being polite where I am from. :shrug:

[FlippingEck]

I know... like perhaps we may have stumbled onto Channel 5 and not been clear about what it is we're watching.

Clearly SOME people have....

[FlippingEck]

so disabled people should just be shut away? no compassion or consideration for them?


Who is disabled?
:shrug:

[Dollface]

of course it can lead to bullying but that's only if it happens multiple times. people are just jumping to conclusions as always.

It's not quite bullying yet, but it's not nice what they did.


How would you feel if that was your dad? @Sophiee

Just wondering if you would feel differently if it were being done to someone you care about. 'Cos i know i'd feel awful if people were treating my dad like that - waking him up/mocking him/blatantly laughing at him infront of his face :shrug:

[FlippingEck]

with all due respect - can we be quiet and stop posting i am trying to sleep. this is not a good point - this is big brother not big bore.

If they all had their cocoa and took to bed by 10pm they'd all be moaning that it was boring... no matter what the hm's do, they are never gonna win with that.. unless of course it's the forum "pity case" because they can do anything they want...

[FlippingEck]

It's not quite bullying yet, but it's not nice what they did.



Just wondering if you would feel differently if it were being done to someone you care about. 'Cos i know i'd feel awful if people were treating my dad like that - waking him up/mocking him/blatantly laughing at him infront of his face :shrug:

If my dad was acting like Busey is in the house, I'd be embarrassed. Not only that.. if my dad was as mentally unstable as he clearly is, then I would have strongly recommended he did not enter the house.

[FlippingEck]

All they need to do is keep the noise down in the bedroom. Unless they're ****ing stupid or have no manners at all it shouldn't be a problem for them. Take it into the garden, scream and shout all you like. Suggesting someone who's older shouldn't be in there because people can't keep one room - the bedroom - quiet for sleeping is ridiculous.

How about taking out the stupid people? THEY shouldn't be in there.

and YOU preach about the need for capitals? :laugh::laugh:

[Sophiee]

It's not quite bullying yet, but it's not nice what they did.
Just wondering if you would feel differently if it were being done to someone you care about. 'Cos i know i'd feel awful if people were treating my dad like that - waking him up/mocking him/blatantly laughing at him infront of his face :shrug:
If my dad was acting like Busey is in the house, I'd be embarrassed. Not only that.. if my dad was as mentally unstable as he clearly is, then I would have strongly recommended he did not enter the house.
I agree with the above. but anyway; no I wouldn't feel differently, this waking up housemates when they're sleeping thing isn't new, he knew what he was letting himself in for (or at least should have) upon entering.