is obviously going to win

[Cal.]

It's inevitable:conf:

[JoshBB]

Nah, not yet it's not. Just need to hope she stops getting so much airtime!

[Pete.]

Here for an eviction but she will have the benefit collectors behind her

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[LukeB]

First brummie winner!! She lives like 20 mins away from me

[Cal.]

I'm not actually bothered about having a female winner this series because the males are far better than the females this series

[Denver]

Why not she is the most down to earth person in there

[jessicadanielle]

Not sure. On the launch I thought it would be between her, George, Kellie and Leslie. I think Dee and George have the same sort of appeal.

[LukeB]

Dont get why she was booed

[JoshBB]

Why not she is the most down to earth person in there

A lot of them are down-to-earth in their own cultures. Lauren and Ricci for example.

[smudgie]

Hard to say so soon.

Dee or Leslie looking good but so much can happen in a short time in there.

[Pete.]

Dont get why she was booed
She's famous for nothing except for collecting our money?

[Jarrod]

Dee is only "hated" and disliked because of the way she was portrayed on Benefits Street. Someone's financial background and what sort of upbringing they have shouldn't really affect our views on what sort of person they are, but hey. That's the public for you.

[Mystic Mock]

She's definitely the most likely to win, but I'm also not ruling out an Audley or Stephanie victory as they're more photogenic winners for BB.

[JoshBB]

Dee is only "hated" and disliked because of the way she was portrayed on Benefits Street. Someone's financial background and what sort of upbringing they have shouldn't really affect our views on what sort of person they are, but hey. That's the public for you.

Agreed. She didn't even know the show was on benefits, the producers tricked her. Would be nice to stick two fingers up to C5 tho tbh.

[Cal.]

Agreed. She didn't even know the show was on benefits, the producers tricked her. Would be nice to stick two fingers up to C5 tho tbh.

Yeah they were told it was about the community weren't they?

[Pete.]

Agreed. She didn't even know the show was on benefits, the producers tricked her. Would be nice to stick two fingers up to C5 tho tbh.
Wasn't it on Channel 4 :worry:

[Cal.]

Wasn't it on Channel 4 :worry:

I think he meant C4.

[Pete.]

I think he meant C4.
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[Cal.]

K

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[LukeB]

She's famous for nothing except for collecting our money?

I only call a listers famous, she probs was on benefits to feed and clothe her kids

[Pete.]

Everyone with a child gets Child Benefit, maybe getting a job helps too :thumbs:

[Cal.]

She's famous for nothing except for collecting our money?

Well like that woman said on BOTS the queen is the exact same thing

[Denver]

Everyone with a child gets Child Benefit, maybe getting a job helps too :thumbs:

She had a good one with the council but was sacked 5 years ago because of her boyfreind

[Pete.]

Well like that woman said on BOTS the queen is the exact same thing
:/

Why compare Dee to the Queen when the monarchy is history. I'm happy to pay my taxes to the Royal Family and not people like Dee

[Pete.]

She had a good one with the council but was sacked 5 years ago because of her boyfreind
Yh I don't watch Benefits Street

[Shaun]

:/

Why compare Dee to the Queen when the monarchy is history. I'm happy to pay my taxes to the Royal Family and not people like Dee

"the monarchy is history"

is that it? :laugh: because people who bemoan someone getting £200odd a week, and a council house, but not a family getting millions a year for doing nothing other than flying around opening monuments, is really quite bizarre

[Pete.]

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[Cal.]

:/

Why compare Dee to the Queen when the monarchy is history. I'm happy to pay my taxes to the Royal Family and not people like Dee

No they're the same

Why begrudge a woman a few hundred bob a week over a family getting millions a year for doing the exact same thing?

[JoshBB]

No they're the same

Why begrudge a woman a few hundred bob a week over a family getting millions a year for doing the exact same thing?

The only argument I guess is that the Queen brings in more money from tourism but Dee and the royal family are both tax scroungers tbh.

[Denver]

The only argument I guess is that the Queen brings in more money from tourism but Dee and the royal family are both tax scroungers tbh.

But dee paid into the tax fund for years so surley she entitled to take back

[Cal.]

The royal family do NOTHING but get lucky with the family they were born into.

[Pete.]

But dee paid into the tax fund for years so surley she entitled to take back
Aren't we all then

[JoshBB]

But dee paid into the tax fund for years so surley she entitled to take back

Oh no I don't doubt that, she claimed benefits that were necessary to live. The royal family though.. they don't need millions.

[Cal.]

Aren't we all then

If you work and pay taxes for years and then get sacked of course you're entitled to dip into some of it in the form of benefits

Dee worked for years before she was sacked and needed benefits

[Sophiee]

didn't everybody think that cheryl ferguson and natalie cassidy were going to win too? and look what happened there :whistle:. things change daily in there, nothing is set in stone.

[Pete.]

The royal family do NOTHING but get lucky with the family they were born into.
The younger royal work for the army/air force and the Queen (and Charles) are technically OAPs

[Denver]

Aren't we all then

Benifits should only be for people who have paid in and unable to work then the lazy teenage ****s will get there arse up and look for work

[JoshBB]

If you work and pay taxes for years and then get sacked of course you're entitled to dip into some of it in the form of benefits

Dee worked for years before she was sacked and needed benefits

Exactly. The benefit system needs reform so people who need it can live until they get back on their feet, and people who don't need it (monarch) don't receive the benefits.

[Heaven = Winner]

I wouldn't mind it tbh. :shrug:

[Cal.]

Benifits should only be for people who have paid in and unable to work then the lazy teenage ****s will get there arse up and look for work

I agree


That couple on benefits street were getting more than my nan who unfortunately can no longer work due to a stroke and struggles to get by, disgusting

[Pete.]

Am I seeing the monarchy die before me

[Jarrod]

I literally knew this would turn into a debate about benefits when it wasn't supposed to be this.

Dee didn't exactly ask to be portrayed as she was on Benefits Street, and certainly didn't realize that's what Channel 4 were going to do. Just because she's on benefits doesn't mean she's a bad person. What about the people on benefits who truly are struggling and need it? She was most likely one of them who was struggling, and wasn't one of those people who claim thousands of pounds in benefits every year just so their kids can have iPhones, PS4's and the best branded clothes.

She had a good and respectful job at Birmingham City Council and was sacked, and was unable to find anymore work. Really, Benefits Street has helped her and since the show has come off benefits and is now working in the media thanks to the attention she's being given. Good on her.

The Monarchy mean nothing nowadays compared to what they used to be.

[Pete.]

As longer as they are finding work it is k

[Cal.]

Am I seeing the monarchy die before me

I don't like them tbh

I didn't even watch the wedding

[JoshBB]

I agree


That couple on benefits street were getting more than my nan who unfortunately can no longer work due to a stroke and struggles to get by, disgusting

It's corrupt, really.

[Pete.]

I don't like them tbh

I didn't even watch the wedding
But without their history we could be seeing a very different world

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[JoshBB]

But without their history we could be seeing a very different world

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Maybe even a better one.

[Marsh.]

"the monarchy is history"

is that it? :laugh: because people who bemoan someone getting £200odd a week, and a council house, but not a family getting millions a year for doing nothing other than flying around opening monuments, is really quite bizarre

The Royal Family make back several times what they're paid in profit and pay it back into government. :smug:

[Cal.]

But without their history we could be seeing a very different world

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I admire you, i think your point is

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:smug:

[JoshBB]

you guys, if u keep throwing shade there'll be no sunlight left :(

[Cal.]

you guys, if u keep throwing shade there'll be no sunlight left :(

Nice:smug:

[JoshBB]

Nice:smug:

i'm both very poetic and very illiterate after midnight. also speak a load of **** so yh. i'm like sober drunk

[Cal.]

i'm both very poetic and very illiterate after midnight. also speak a load of **** so yh. i'm like sober drunk

Me jumping to see ur sleepy **** posts:

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[JoshBB]

Me jumping to see ur sleepy **** posts:

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not sure how this is relevant but it somehow is??

[Cal.]

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not sure how this is relevant but it somehow is??

It's a gif representing the power I have over TiBB

Josy hew?

[Nell_McCoy]

The Royal Family make back several times what they're paid in profit and pay it back into government. :smug:

In what way? If you are talking about tourism there is zero evidence that London would lose visitors without a Monarchy. It hasn't done Paris any harm has it? I'd stick Harry Hewitt on the throne at least he has earned his keep a bit and served his country and has a bit of personality. (failing that he'd make a fantastic Housemate)

[JoshBB]

It's a gif representing the power I have over TiBB

Josy hew?

#WhoIsShefortibbmod

[Cal.]

#WhoIsShefortibbmod

I was robbed in the last mod recruitment

I didn't apply but I was expecting to be approached.

[JoshBB]

I was robbed in the last mod recruitment

I didn't apply but I was expecting to be approached.

Maybe we could organise a TiBB forum coup :wavey:

[Marsh.]

In what way? If you are talking about tourism there is zero evidence that London would lose visitors without a Monarchy. It hasn't done Paris any harm has it? I'd stick Harry Hewitt on the throne at least he has earned his keep a bit and served his country and has a bit of personality. (failing that he'd make a fantastic Housemate)

The Royal families private lands/businesses generate millions upon millions above what they are paid from the government (I think it's about 50p per taxpayer a year), the majority of their money is then paid into the treasury.

The Royals keep a very small percentage of their own earnings.

They generate and pay into the country a hell of a lot more than they take. The Crown Estate is no longer owned by the Royals and makes 200+ million a year for the treasury.

[the truth]

hope not. shes not even a celebrity. but the british public may think its oh so hilarious to vote a non celeb as winner like chantelle oh my God years ago.....oh how we laughed zzzzzzzz

[Marsh.]

Chantelle didn't win because it "was funny" but because she was the most popular housemate.

[the truth]

The Royal families private lands/businesses generate millions upon millions above what they are paid from the government (I think it's about 50p per taxpayer a year), the majority of their money is then paid into the treasury.

The Royals keep a very small percentage of their own earnings.

They generate and pay into the country a hell of a lot more than they take. The Crown Estate is no longer owned by the Royals and makes 200+ million a year for the treasury.

you dont honestly believe all that pro monarchy bbc spewed propoganda...the 50 p her is a lie....the figures they spew do NOT even include security costs which run to several million a year alone
they disfigure our so called democracy , corrupt our laws, waste our money, re-inforce the bigotted class system, theyre the worst example too of a multi cutlural society....no catholics, no jews, no arabs , no blacks ever in the history of the british monarchy? nice

they own enough land to fill up half of wales....land mostly wasted and derelict, charles has over 100 castle in cornwall alone...the art in windsor castle alone is worth billions and no one ever gets to see it ..what a farce

what do they represent historially? hmmm rape and pillage, class discrimination? burnt down churches? civil wars, apartheid, enslavement, murder, inernational wars and potatoe famines?

read the declaration of US independence, written in blood, the yanks freed from the tyranny of the english crown

[the truth]

Chantelle didn't win because it "was funny" but because she was the most popular housemate.

i disagree. it was a running theme throughout the show, the producers pushed it all the way, wouldnt it be oh so funny if the pretend celebrity won the celebrity show? funny? nope

[Marsh.]

US independence was over 200 years ago. Keep up. Things have changed love. :idc:

Their "tyranny" ended a long time ago, they hold very little power anymore. Educate yourself.

[the truth]

US independence was over 200 years ago. Keep up. Things have changed love. :idc:

history never changes love, the history of the monarchy is horrific. and all the other stuff is th estate of affairs today...the art , the waste, the land, the exclusion of other peoples, the art , the castles, the lies and false propogandad that the gullible fools believe.....re educate yourself

[Marsh.]

We're not talking about history. We're talking about the Royals as they are today and the money involved. :pat:

Most of their land and property is part of The Crown Estate and not owned by the royal family anymore.

The family have their own personal inheritance that any family inherit from ancestors but all things belonging to the "crown" and country were taken over by the government. The royals hold very little in comparison to several hundred years ago.

[Shaun]

K Hun http://i.minus.com/ibnY6oanoVUzir.gif

compelling post as always pete

[Ammi]

..atm I wouldn't really mind if she won but it's early days though..I don't know what her fee for this is and regardless of whether she wins or not, she'll get some publicity stuff and earn more...she was on benefits and was 'hated' for it..?..this will effect that so she won't be able to claim so she's done something to change that...I like her...

[Ammi]

..what I like about her as well is that in every conversation I've seen her in, she seems to listen to people....

[Pete.]

Chantelle didn't win because it "was funny" but because she was the most popular housemate.
Too right

[Mick]

I do not as yet have an opinion RE will Dee win but based on the little we have seen so far then I would say she deserves to win.

I don't feel she started at par with many viewers and possibly some HMs having watched the Benefits street program(or read distorted versions) and pre judging her in a negative way.

Yet already she has shown compassion intelligence and a good sense of humour.She must have been bricking it when given that task yet did well imo.

So stay as you are Dee cause your doing good.

[Ammi]

I do not as yet have an opinion RE will Dee win but based on the little we have seen so far then I would say she deserves to win.

I don't feel she started at par with many viewers and possibly some HMs having watched the Benefits street program(or read distorted versions) and pre judging her in a negative way.

Yet already she has shown compassion intelligence and a good sense of humour.She must have been bricking it when given that task yet did well imo.

So stay as you are Dee cause your doing good.

..yeah and this whole thing, win or lose will have her earning some income out of it therefore coming off benefits so there is nothing to criticise anymore..win/win eh Mick, good on her...

[waterhog]

you can not say you have a winner just yet - this is week 1 ?

[Cherie]

I like her more than I thought I would, that said At the moment I don't want her to win

[booboomartin]

Dee is only "hated" and disliked because of the way she was portrayed on Benefits Street. Someone's financial background and what sort of upbringing they have shouldn't really affect our views on what sort of person they are, but hey. That's the public for you.

you forgot to add that she is a convicted thief. stole thousands from her employer. like to know what her disability is? :nono:

[booboomartin]

Why not she is the most down to earth person in there

is that a quality she needs to be a convicted criminal. stole thousands from her employer. thief. :nono::nono:

[booboomartin]

First brummie winner!! She lives like 20 mins away from me

lucky you. watch she's not round to steal from you. convicted thief. stole thousands. nothing to be proud of:nono::nono:

[booboomartin]

She had a good one with the council but was sacked 5 years ago because of her boyfreind

she was not sacked because of her boyfriend. she was sacked because she stole thousands from her employer. if she gave the money to her boyfriend more fool her, but she knew what she was doing, and also knew the consequences. thief and convicted criminal. scrounger and lazy. :nono::nono:

[Pete.]

you forgot to add that she is a convicted thief. stole thousands from her employer. like to know what her disability is? :nono:
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[booboomartin]

I only call a listers famous, she probs was on benefits to feed and clothe her kids

on benefits because she was to lazy. but to be fair, being a convicted criminal who stole thousands from her employer, would not endear her to many prospective employers. needs to get of her backside, but hey, thousands now from big brother, no need to. :nono::nono:

[flamingGalah!]

I think she is their chosen one... Await for more scenarios/tasks to show her in a good light...

Also the average BB viewer is a chavvy dole bum, so they will somehow look up & admire her & thus vote for her...

[booboomartin]

But dee paid into the tax fund for years so surley she entitled to take back

i think she took enough back when she stole thousands from her employer. a lot more than the lazy c.. has ever paid in. she is a convicted criminal, a thief, so no, she is not entitled to 'take back' anything. :nono::nono:

[booboomartin]

I literally knew this would turn into a debate about benefits when it wasn't supposed to be this.

Dee didn't exactly ask to be portrayed as she was on Benefits Street, and certainly didn't realize that's what Channel 4 were going to do. Just because she's on benefits doesn't mean she's a bad person. What about the people on benefits who truly are struggling and need it? She was most likely one of them who was struggling, and wasn't one of those people who claim thousands of pounds in benefits every year just so their kids can have iPhones, PS4's and the best branded clothes.

She had a good and respectful job at Birmingham City Council and was sacked, and was unable to find anymore work. Really, Benefits Street has helped her and since the show has come off benefits and is now working in the media thanks to the attention she's being given. Good on her.

The Monarchy mean nothing nowadays compared to what they used to be.

yes, she did have a good job with the council until they sacked her. oh yes, you forgot to mention that they sacked her for stealing thoudands of pounds from them. she should have gone to prison. she is a convicted criminal, a thief. as for working in the media! is that what you call it. she does not know the meaning of the word work. :nono::nono:

[FlippingEck]

Why not she is the most down to earth person in there

*cough* George

[Denver]

she was not sacked because of her boyfriend. she was sacked because she stole thousands from her employer. if she gave the money to her boyfriend more fool her, but she knew what she was doing, and also knew the consequences. thief and convicted criminal. scrounger and lazy. :nono::nono:

Nobody knows who stole the money as it was never proven

[Tip]

Nobody knows who stole the money as it was never proven

I don't know the story - but how did she become a convicted thief if it was never proven?

Or was she not convicted?

[LukeB]

on benefits because she was to lazy. but to be fair, being a convicted criminal who stole thousands from her employer, would not endear her to many prospective employers. needs to get of her backside, but hey, thousands now from big brother, no need to. :nono::nono:

she has kids! she has to put food on the table and give them clothes for school,she on bb now she wont be on benefits no more

[sassysocks]

She's famous for nothing except for collecting our money?

Many of those complaining are probably not even tax payers, just snobbery based on popular opinion.

I don't like people not prepared to work for a living, but don't that much about her. All I know is that on the show she has come across as very likeable. She is friendly, caring and clearly intelligent. She is quick witted and able to adllib when put on the spot. There is more to a person's worth than their background.

A poor, caring, intelligent person is of more value in my book to an unintelligent, less caring better-off one who spends their time watching the likes of Towie and Geordie Shore.

[Denver]

I don't know the story - but how did she become a convicted thief if it was never proven?

Or was she not convicted?

I dont think she was committed because i havent heard any suggestions that she has. Also i dont really talk about things i dont know much about because thats just basically spreading rumours all i know is that she was sacked for apparently stealing money to fund her boyfreinds drug habit but i cant say whether its true or not as i wasnt there

[booboomartin]

Nobody knows who stole the money as it was never proven

found guilty by birmingham crown court of stealing £13,000. some of this money belonged to vunerable people. she was given an 8 month jail sentence suspended for 18 months, and ordered to do 220 hours unpaid work. case proved. would be interesting to find out, if she ever completed her 220 hours.:dance::dance:

[booboomartin]

I dont think she was committed because i havent heard any suggestions that she has. Also i dont really talk about things i dont know much about because thats just basically spreading rumours all i know is that she was sacked for apparently stealing money to fund her boyfreinds drug habit but i cant say whether its true or not as i wasnt there

found guilty of stealing £13,000 from her employer birmingham city council. this money also included money belonging to vunerable people, who handed it in for safe keeping (what a joke). she received an 8 month jail sentence at birmingham crown court. this was suspended for 18 months, and she was ordered to do 220 hours unpaid work. would be interesting to know if she completed her 220 hours work.:nono:

[odd sock]

I never watched Benefits Street but based on what I had read in the papers, I thought I would dislike her but she has won me round, she seems like a nice, caring, fun person and is one of my favourites.

[Kazanne]

she has kids! she has to put food on the table and give them clothes for school,she on bb now she wont be on benefits no more

Same could have been said for Helen ,she needed to put food on the table for her boy,but she was judged on her past a lot.

[booboomartin]

Many of those complaining are probably not even tax payers, just snobbery based on popular opinion.

I don't like people not prepared to work for a living, but don't that much about her. All I know is that on the show she has come across as very likeable. She is friendly, caring and clearly intelligent. She is quick witted and able to adllib when put on the spot. There is more to a person's worth than their background.

A poor, caring, intelligent person is of more value in my book to an unintelligent, less caring better-off one who spends their time watching the likes of Towie and Geordie Shore.

bit silly to presume that people complaining are probably not tax payers. the fact that dee is a convicted criminal is nothing to do with people being snobbish. she was found guilty by Birmingham crown court of stealing £13,000 from her employers, Birmingham city council. some of this money belonged to vulnerable people who had placed it in the care of the local authority. she was given an 8 month prison sentence, this was suspended for 18 months and she was ordered to do 220 hours of unpaid work. (wonder if she ever did it). your right, there is more to a persons worth than their background, in dee's case her background increased her worth by £13,000 of other peoples money, obtained by stealing. your last paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. what would you feel if those people that you are critical of, thought that people who watched big brother were how you have described towie and Geordie shore watchers. rich or poor, caring or less caring, clever or not, is not determined by what tv programme a person chooses to watch, just saying.:nono::nono:

[Rob!]

Meh, right now I could deal with that. She seems lovely. I never watched Benfits street and was expecting a Jade Goody type if I'm honest, but I've been pleasantly surprised.

[booboomartin]

Same could have been said for Helen ,she needed to put food on the table for her boy,but she was judged on her past a lot.

so true. Helen was a prostitute, not a crime. apart from living on benefits, dee is a convicted criminal. she was convicted of stealing £13,000 from her employers. some of this money belonged to vulnerable people who had placed their money in the care of the local authority. dee was given an 8 month prison sentence. this was suspended for 18 months, and she was ordered to do 220 hours unpaid work (wonder if she ever completed this):nono::nono:

[achro]

If we're going to eliminate people based on their criminal rap sheet - this celebrity house would be barren.

[Nell_McCoy]

so true. Helen was a prostitute, not a crime. apart from living on benefits, dee is a convicted criminal. she was convicted of stealing £13,000 from her employers. some of this money belonged to vulnerable people who had placed their money in the care of the local authority. dee was given an 8 month prison sentence. this was suspended for 18 months, and she was ordered to do 220 hours unpaid work (wonder if she ever completed this):nono::nono:

Do you honestly think that Helen was paying taxes on her "immoral earnings"? Dee has paid her debt to society and deserves another chance. For those who didn't watch Benefits Street she was extremely kind and caring looking after others who were more vulnerable than herself - exactly as she has been in the house. I hope she wins.

[Liam-]

I'd be happy if she won tbh, she's one of my favourites in there and definitely the most down to earth, i love her