glad he was told

[Denver]

Im glad big brother stepped in before gary becomes outcasted

[JoshBB]

Gary deserves to be outcasted at times tbh

[Samm]

He wasn't getting outcastes BB just giving special treatment

[Denver]

Gary deserves to be outcasted at times tbh

Nobody deserves to be outcasted they even taking the piss out of his deafness

[Braden]

Gary deserves to be outcasted at times tbh

Nobody deserves to get outcasted unless under very extreme circumstances. All it does is show the ignorance of others and how they can't deal with people who are just a bit different to themselves.

[Vanessa]

Nobody deserves to get outcasted unless under very extreme circumstances. All it does is show the ignorance of others and how they can't deal with people who are just a bit different to themselves.

:clap2:

[reece(:]

Nobody deserves to get outcasted unless under very extreme circumstances. All it does is show the ignorance of others and how they can't deal with people who are just a bit different to themselves.
:clap1:

[MB.]

Outcasted isn't a word :worry:

[JoshBB]

Nobody deserves to be outcasted they even taking the piss out of his deafness

2 different points. First one, they do if they're acting like an asshole. Only temporarily of course. Second point, no they weren't.

Nobody deserves to get outcasted unless under very extreme circumstances. All it does is show the ignorance of others and how they can't deal with people who are just a bit different to themselves.

It's not just that he's different, he's being incredibly rude at times.

Outcasted isn't a word :worry:

for the sake of this thread we'll assume it is.

[Braden]

Outcasted isn't a word :worry:

It is, but it's not the outcast we're suppose to mean. :laugh:

[Denver]

2 different points. First one, they do if they're acting like an asshole. Only temporarily of course. Second point, no they weren't.



It's not just that he's different, he's being incredibly rude at times.



for the sake of this thread we'll assume it is.

So its fine to say someone isnt deaf he just making out he is to hoodwink them?

[Braden]

It's not just that he's different, he's being incredibly rude at times.


But regardless, there are ways of dealing with rudeness. I don't personally feel that the majority of people are doing so appropriately. They're being rude themselves.

[FlippingEck]

Nobody deserves to get outcasted unless under very extreme circumstances. All it does is show the ignorance of others and how they can't deal with people who are just a bit different to themselves.

Hang on a cotton picking minute.. why should the others change themselves to accommodate the rude arrogant Busey?
What tosh. He is outcasting himself because the bits he does hear, he chooses not to and make a show of himself putting it on.

Busey is clearly showing how he deals with people who are different to himself!

[Braden]

Hang on a cotton picking minute.. why should the others change themselves to accommodate the rude arrogant Busey?
What tosh. He is outcasting himself because the bits he does hear, he chooses not to and make a show of himself putting it on.

Busey is clearly showing how he deals with people who are different to himself!

I'm not saying anyone should change in the slightest...all I'm saying is that there are ways of handling rudeness, and by them not abiding to how I think they should deal with it, I do not like those people...that is all.

[Alf]

Big Brother submitting to the ofcom complaining, offended at everything brigade.

Get a grip of yourself Big Brother.

[SocietyIsRuined]

Should have let James dig his grave. Despicable human being.

[Cherie]

Outcasted isn't a word :worry:

I was afraid to bring this up :worry:

[FlippingEck]

I was afraid to bring this up :worry:

me too lol. I think they mean ostracised. :hehe:

[hijaxers]

Im glad big brother stepped in before gary becomes outcasted

i don't think the word outcasted exists in the English language does it ??

[Denver]

i don't think the word outcasted exists in the English language does it ??

It does in the tibb language :wavey:

[Jules2]

Gary deserves to be outcasted at times tbh

No one deserves to be an outcaste, as James began it maybe he will control it but he was ready to say that it will happen. I cant help laughing at the little american knowall, his remarks in the DR declaring that so and so should go. I hope he goes first tbh. Would hate to work with him.

[Jules2]

I'm not saying anyone should change in the slightest...all I'm saying is that there are ways of handling rudeness, and by them not abiding to how I think they should deal with it, I do not like those people...that is all.

I honestly think that none of us can determine what Gary can hear and what he cant, we are not in his situation. It must be very frustrating for him and the others havent been together long enough to try and help him. They are just following the sheep at the moment. They will need to separate themselves from the three who so far are controlling the situation along with the little man
Leslie.

[Sophiee]

stopping gary's popularity from rising anymore in its tracks, great stuff :dance:.

[JTM45]

stopping gary's popularity from rising anymore in its tracks, great stuff :dance:.

It wasn't Gary who was called to the diary room and told to grow up and show some consideration to others!

The majority can see what a cock James has repeatedly made of himself and it was just nice to see that view given the official BB confirmation stamp!
Bye James!!!:xyxwave:

[Patricia4]

Yes Bye James,I agree with you JMT he's sure is a **** stirrer.

[JTM45]

Yes Bye James,I agree with you JMT he's sure is a **** stirrer.

He's quickly becoming the nations least favourite housemate Patricia so hopefully as soon as he's up he'll be on his way home!!!:laugh:

[FlippingEck]

It wasn't Gary who was called to the diary room and told to grow up and show some consideration to others!
Nor was James!!!! HAHAHA!
The majority can see what a cock James has repeatedly made of himself and it was just nice to see that view given the official BB confirmation stamp!
Bye James!!!:xyxwave:

Did I miss a whole section of the show Sophiee??? I don't recall seeing BB reprimand James telling him to grow up and show some consideration? Hmm.. I must contact C5 because clearly my TV is not showing me what it is showing everyone else.. how bizarre!

[FlippingEck]

He's quickly becoming the nations least favourite housemate Patricia so hopefully as soon as he's up he'll be on his way home!!!:laugh:

According to you??

[Forgetmenot]

Yes, James IS digging his own grave, horrible person, telling an elderly person who is also hearing disabled to "look at me when I am talking", what a self important squirt he is. BB very clever in telling HIM to be the HM who makes sure Gary is not ostrosized when its him has been working hard to get that done.
Then there is the nasty venomous "Lille person' from the states..who is he other than poisonous! Do feel for him over the lack of sleep, lot of ignorant self absorbed people in there. Good ole Dee keeping her head whilst others easily loosing theirs!

[FlippingEck]

"Hearing disabled?????" lmao. Honestly, there are so many allowances being made for Busey's rudeness it's not really funny any more... Busey is rude. Yes he's 70. Yes he's hard of hearing. My auntie is hard of hearing and she's 70. She's not rude. She can sit and listen to other peoples opinions, and knows how to hold a proper conversation without interrupting and sharing ideas and feelings.. If she thought she was being given special dispensation for her age or the fact she is hard of hearing, she would clip you around the ears.... ahhh, maybe she's more like James then huh?

[Denver]

"Hearing disabled?????" lmao. Honestly, there are so many allowances being made for Busey's rudeness it's not really funny any more... Busey is rude. Yes he's 70. Yes he's hard of hearing. My auntie is hard of hearing and she's 70. She's not rude. She can sit and listen to other peoples opinions, and knows how to hold a proper conversation without interrupting and sharing ideas and feelings.. If she thought she was being given special dispensation for her age or the fact she is hard of hearing, she would clip you around the ears.... ahhh, maybe she's more like James then huh?

You do realised he is brain damaged im sure that has a impact on his behaviour

[Sophiee]

It wasn't Gary who was called to the diary room and told to grow up and show some consideration to others!

The majority can see what a cock James has repeatedly made of himself and it was just nice to see that view given the official BB confirmation stamp!
Bye James!!!:xyxwave:
I know, but had he got properly excluded from the group then more of the public would have fallen into the trap of supporting the outcast again so they've done us a favour :smug:. james is going nowhere.

[Denver]

I know, but had he got properly excluded from the group then more of the public would have fallen into the trap of supporting the outcast again so they've done us a favour :smug:. james is going nowhere.

So threatening to punch a old man is doing nothing wrong? Im proud to say if he said that to my grandad then my grandad would of put him on his ass :dance:

[Yoshi888]

James has revealed himself as one of those egoed up insecure men will little generosity.

[Sophiee]

So threatening to punch a old man is doing nothing wrong? Im proud to say if he said that to my grandad then my grandad would of put him on his ass :dance:
he didn't actually threaten anyone, that's just twisting what he said. you could tell by his manner of speaking that it was clearly a joke, he was laughing whilst saying it.

[Denver]

he didn't actually threaten anyone, that's just twisting what he said. you could tell by his manner of speaking that it was clearly a joke, he was laughing whilst saying it.

He said ive never hit a 70 year old and his tone suggested he planned to

[Yoshi888]

he didn't actually threaten anyone, that's just twisting what he said. you could tell by his manner of speaking that it was clearly a joke, he was laughing whilst saying it.

The guy is a foul coward who threatens old men and talks about smashing his face in behind his back. How could you defend such a scum bag. What aspect of him do you identify with. No need to answer as it's rhetorical.

[Creggle]

James is gay and can't handle it, I feel sorry for his wife.

[the truth]

Gary deserves to be outcasted at times tbh

only if you support group bullying

[the truth]

he didn't actually threaten anyone, that's just twisting what he said. you could tell by his manner of speaking that it was clearly a joke, he was laughing whilst saying it.

it wasnt a joke. also funny how were meant to laugh when james says he wil punh an old brain damaged man or hwne he bends over to get given one up the anus, yet when gary says anything, james is horrified and tries to portray him as a bigot to win himself cheap votes, wrong. james is a wrong one, a nasty shallow sack of falseness. jo public will soon send him back to the hell that created him

[Ammi]

..I thought it was perfect the way BB put it to James to ask him to help the other housemates with more tolerance to Gary and turning it back on him in a positive way...I understand that Gary asking people to repeat themselves because he hasn't heard or he hasn't understood accents or they speak too quickly for his understanding or whatever is annoying and interrupting conversations because he probably can't hear all the voices in multiple conversations and with so much going on is also annoying but he's only genuinely trying to understand and participate...

..anyway, celebrities in general are not known for their tolerance in BB as they have agendas for going in and that's their main focus/themselves but I think Gary probably has more tolerance of anyone else in the house with his life experiences and the variation of people he has met..and in asking them to repeat themselves/trying to join the conversation even if it's sometimes not the best moment shoes he's listening and interested which I think he is...I actually could cry for his confusion since he's been there, I wish the housemates could see beyond their irritations....

[waterhog]

i disagree = james was called to the DR for the reason of BB is being fare in the way we treat people with disabilitys - but i think this was wrong of BB to single James out as gary has this problem with all.

so it is unfaire to blame it all on james when the problem is not caused by him.

[sassysocks]

He wasn't getting outcastes BB just giving special treatment

Of course he was. It was on the verge of bullying - singling out and attacking a 70 year old man with hearing prblems. His hearing clearly affects ommunication with the other hms. leading to misunderstanings. He makes an easy target. Shame on James and others for thier obvious lack of intelligence and lack of compassion.

After all, he may be 70, but he is the only true celeb in there. Jealousy is an ugly emotion.

[rubymoo]

..I thought it was perfect the way BB put it to James to ask him to help the other housemates with more tolerance to Gary and turning it back on him in a positive way...I understand that Gary asking people to repeat themselves because he hasn't heard or he hasn't understood accents or they speak too quickly for his understanding or whatever is annoying and interrupting conversations because he probably can't hear all the voices in multiple conversations and with so much going on is also annoying but he's only genuinely trying to understand and participate...

..anyway, celebrities in general are not known for their tolerance in BB as they have agendas for going in and that's their main focus/themselves but I think Gary probably has more tolerance of anyone else in the house with his life experiences and the variation of people he has met..and in asking them to repeat themselves/trying to join the conversation even if it's sometimes not the best moment shoes he's listening and interested which I think he is...I actually could cry for his confusion since he's been there, I wish the housemates could see beyond their irritations....

:clap1:

[sassysocks]

"Hearing disabled?????" lmao. Honestly, there are so many allowances being made for Busey's rudeness it's not really funny any more... Busey is rude. Yes he's 70. Yes he's hard of hearing. My auntie is hard of hearing and she's 70. She's not rude. She can sit and listen to other peoples opinions, and knows how to hold a proper conversation without interrupting and sharing ideas and feelings.. If she thought she was being given special dispensation for her age or the fact she is hard of hearing, she would clip you around the ears.... ahhh, maybe she's more like James then huh?

You accuse Gary of being rude when so many of the other younger hms are unbeliveably rude and selfish with their behaviour in the bedroom when other hms are trying to sleep - no confusion over their obvious lack of consideration and downwright rude behaviour.

Gary is an old man with hrearing issues affecting communcation with the others which must be very frustrating for him - the others have far less excuse than him for frustration and rude behaviour.

Personally I think it is quite brave for a man of his age and celeb status to travel from America to participate in such a show in Britain full of youngsters desperate for public recognition. I bet most of them will never be in a position to be asked when they are 70. Noone will remember any of them.

[lily.]

James has shown himself up to be a right wanker in my view. He's one of those types who is happy to take the piss and joke around, but only on his terms.

I'm also getting a bit sick of his 'in this country' statements. He does not represent the rest of the UK with his standards and rules on humour. If Leslie had been offended by James bending over then this would have went a whole different way, but Leslie went along with the joke, Gary joined in, then James blew the whole thing out of proportion.

His behaviour in last night's highlights wasn't much better. David needs to sort himself out as well. He talks fast, and has an accent, yet can't handle that Gary can barely hear him and when he does hear him, he has trouble understanding him.

James/David fancy themselves as the alpha-males of the house. They both come across as a pair of self-absorbed twats to me.

[FlippingEck]

You accuse Gary of being rude when so many of the other younger hms are unbeliveably rude and selfish with their behaviour in the bedroom when other hms are trying to sleep - no confusion over their obvious lack of consideration and downwright rude behaviour. I have said already there is no excuse for the bedroom behaviour.. having said that I'm sure there'd be plenty of moaning and profanities thrown around on here if they housemates were all drinking cocoa and going to bed lights out by 10pm..

Gary is an old man with hrearing issues affecting communcation with the others which must be very frustrating for him - the others have far less excuse than him for frustration and rude behaviour. If his "hearing issues" are such a problem, you'd have thought a man with his intelligence would have spent a little cash and invested in some hearing aids.. He's an arrogant man. The world does not turning just because someone has hearing difficulties..trust me!

Personally I think it is quite brave for a man of his age and celeb status to travel from America to participate in such a show in Britain full of youngsters desperate for public recognition. I bet most of them will never be in a position to be asked when they are 70. Noone will remember any of them.Bless you for mistaking his desire for money as bravery :pat: I'd be interested to hear what you think Gary's motives are for doing the show? After all.. he is obviously a massive superstar in all 4 corners of the world and clearly doesn't NEED to be there... :shrug:

Is it not time to remove the blinkers?

[FlippingEck]

James has shown himself up to be a right wanker in my view. He's one of those types who is happy to take the piss and joke around, but only on his terms. Im sure he'll be truly devastated by your character assassination when he comes out of the house...

I'm also getting a bit sick of his 'in this country' statements. He does not represent the rest of the UK with his standards and rules on humour. If Leslie had been offended by James bending over then this would have went a whole different way, but Leslie went along with the joke, Gary joined in, then James blew the whole thing out of proportion. IN THIS COUNTRY is a fair thing to say.. The culture in the United Kingdom is far different to the United States of America.. and let's be honest, whilst they wouldn't admit it now.. the majority of the people on this forum, I would gamble, wouldn't have a clue who Gary Busey was without the aid of google or wikipedia

His behaviour in last night's highlights wasn't much better. David needs to sort himself out as well. He talks fast, and has an accent, yet can't handle that Gary can barely hear him and when he does hear him, he has trouble understanding him. When James talked slower and was more demonstrative with his speech, he was berated on here and accused of being sarcastic and making fun of him... these guys cannot win no matter what they do.

James/David fancy themselves as the alpha-males of the house. They both come across as a pair of self-absorbed twats to me.

Again, Im sure your character assassinations will mortify them when they leave the house...

[sassysocks]

Is it not time to remove the blinkers?

No blinkers here. The guy is far more entertaining than most of the other attention seeking wannabees in there. His is entertainment gold. Most of the others would kill to have the chance of the career he has had.

He may not be pefect and he may need the money, but how does that detract from the guts it takes for a 70 year old to rravel far from his comfort zone to compete in a show full of fame hungry wannabees desperate for more than money alone. From day one he was the one to watch, like him or hate him. He has not disappoiinted.

[FlippingEck]

Why are you separating him from the other housemates? If the "others" are fame hungry wannabees then sure that Mr Busey is among them... desperate to rekindle a glimmer of fame and pots of money... Im sure he can enlighten them on their path to fame with tales of his spousal battery, drug abuse and animal abuse.. Jeez I am so wrong.. that man is TV Gold!

[Tarryn]

Having a relative with hearing loss I know how annoying it can be at times to keep repeating everything you say BUT imagine how difficult it is for the person with the hearing loss.
It's no wonder he gets cross at times when there are so many people talking over each other.
James should just make sure that when he talks to Gary that he is facing him & talking clearly.
A little more patience is needed but I'm not sure James has any.

[FlippingEck]

Tarryn.. I too have relatives with hearing limitations. They do however have hearing aids and that does make things better. James DID talk slower and looked straight at him, Busey cannot look people in the eye when they talk to him, he's far too self important for that. When James did slow his speech slightly and talked clearer, he was accused on here of being a patronising ****. He cannot do right for doing wrong in some people's eyes, but honestly can't think it will bother him in the slightest.

[FlippingEck]

James has revealed himself as one of those egoed up insecure men will little generosity.

as opposed to Busey... Spousal battery + drug addiction + animal cruelty = HERO! :shrug:

[FlippingEck]

You do realised he is brain damaged im sure that has a impact on his behaviour

You do realise that shoving kilos of coke up your nose causes these issues too.. don't make out like he is some kind of victim. The man's "issues" are self inflicted, yes, the accident too. Helmets are there for a reason..

he is a wife battering animal abusing rancid old creep. That's not hero material in my book.

[FlippingEck]

He said ive never hit a 70 year old and his tone suggested he planned to

Can you post a link to this because the twice I heard him say that not ONCE was there anything in the tone to suggest what you are saying is correct.

[sassysocks]

You do realise that shoving kilos of coke up your nose causes these issues too.. don't make out like he is some kind of victim. The man's "issues" are self inflicted, yes, the accident too. Helmets are there for a reason..

he is a wife battering animal abusing rancid old creep. That's not hero material in my book.

I don't know the facts of the allegations you make, but in my book that makes him no less deserving than the likes of people who simply take their clothes off to gain fame or talentless wannabees known simply for their role in trashy relaity shows such as Towie and Geordie Shore.

Based on his successful acting career, and he was a good actor, Gary has more right than most to be on a show calling itself 'Celebrity' Big Brother.

If Gary is such a 'creep' maybe BB should never have invited him on the show. They did, so he has every right to be there.

[FlippingEck]

so, being in towie/Geordie shore is as bad as spousal battery and animal cruelty.

wow.



just wow.

[Ellen]

Yes it was right that BB told James to have some consideration regarding someone who is hard of hearing instead of belittling them.

[Denver]

You do realise that shoving kilos of coke up your nose causes these issues too.. don't make out like he is some kind of victim. The man's "issues" are self inflicted, yes, the accident too. Helmets are there for a reason..

he is a wife battering animal abusing rancid old creep. That's not hero material in my book.

What a sick thing to say he is brain damaged because he had a serious motor bike accident which caused him to die twice in the future before making things up look before you say anything

[Rob!]

Outcasted isn't a word :worry:

:joker:


Yeah, was needed I think. Especially to James who seems to be representing the country of Great Britain. Dick.

[Tarryn]

Tarryn.. I too have relatives with hearing limitations. They do however have hearing aids and that does make things better. James DID talk slower and looked straight at him, Busey cannot look people in the eye when they talk to him, he's far too self important for that. When James did slow his speech slightly and talked clearer, he was accused on here of being a patronising ****. He cannot do right for doing wrong in some people's eyes, but honestly can't think it will bother him in the slightest.

I understand that but sometimes James can come across as very aggressive.
Does Gary have a hearing aid ?

[sassysocks]

Tarryn.. I too have relatives with hearing limitations. They do however have hearing aids and that does make things better. James DID talk slower and looked straight at him, Busey cannot look people in the eye when they talk to him, he's far too self important for that. When James did slow his speech slightly and talked clearer, he was accused on here of being a patronising ****. He cannot do right for doing wrong in some people's eyes, but honestly can't think it will bother him in the slightest.

You really don't like Gary do you and that is your right. But this looking at him business is riduculous. For a start you don't know why he isn't looking at him, maybe it is something to do with his brain injury, maybe he wasn't going to be spoken to by the jumped-up James like that - if he had told me to ook at him whilst he was talking to me, I wouldn't have looked at him either - who the hell does he think he is.

He is trying to make a name for himself by taking the great Gary Busey on - a lot easier to do when ihe is 70 with brain damage. No doubt he wouldn't have dared taken on a much younger and fitter Gary.

I have gone right off James, I think he is an attention-seeking coward who will take on what he considers 'weaker' targets in order to big-himself up.

[Pete.]

A clever ploy by BB to make the housemate feel guilty for nominating him

[FlippingEck]

What a sick thing to say he is brain damaged because he had a serious motor bike accident which caused him to die twice in the future before making things up look before you say anything

It is not a sick thing to say. I am more than aware of Busey's accident, subsequent brain damage (which IS self inflicted - had he worn a helmet he would not have split his head open).. Im also aware of his cancer in his sinus cavity.. I am also aware of the cocaine addiction, the spousal battery and the animal abuse. Im sick to the back teeth of hearing "poor Gary is disabled" NO. :nono:

[FlippingEck]

I understand that but sometimes James can come across as very aggressive.
Does Gary have a hearing aid ?


If he does, the batteries clearly need changing!!!!

[FlippingEck]

You really don't like Gary do you and that is your right. But this looking at him business is riduculous. For a start you don't know why he isn't looking at him, maybe it is something to do with his brain injury, maybe he wasn't going to be spoken to by the jumped-up James like that - if he had told me to ook at him whilst he was talking to me, I wouldn't have looked at him either - who the hell does he think he is.
He has hearing problems. CLEARLY it is better to look at someone when they are talking - without the fact that it is actually polite to do so - deaf or not!
He is trying to make a name for himself by taking the great Gary Busey on - a lot easier to do when ihe is 70 with brain damage. No doubt he wouldn't have dared taken on a much younger and fitter Gary. REALLY????

I have gone right off James, I think he is an attention-seeking coward who will take on what he considers 'weaker' targets in order to big-himself up.

You know, Im sick of hearing this. I honestly didn't realise there were so many apologists out there for rude arrogant abusive old farts. I really do worry for society.

[sassysocks]

It is not a sick thing to say. I am more than aware of Busey's accident, subsequent brain damage (which IS self inflicted - had he worn a helmet he would not have split his head open).. Im also aware of his cancer in his sinus cavity.. I am also aware of the cocaine addiction, the spousal battery and the animal abuse. Im sick to the back teeth of hearing "poor Gary is disabled" NO. :nono:

His biggest handicap/restriction now is his age. That however is not self-inflicted and comes to us all.

A bit of Karma is what some of these fools need and a good dose of what gioes around comes around when their time comes.

One would hope that commone decency would come before Karma does. From some things I read on here, it seems there won't be much chance of that.

[Josy]

You know, Im sick of hearing this. I honestly didn't realise there were so many apologists out there for rude arrogant abusive old farts. I really do worry for society.

I worry for society more when it's becoming clear both inside and outside the house how intolerant some people can be.

[FlippingEck]

His biggest handicap/restriction now is his age. That however is not self-inflicted and comes to us all.

A bit of Karma is what some of these fools need and a good dose of what gioes around comes around when their time comes.

One would hope that commone decency would come before Karma does. From some things I read on here, it seems there won't be much chance of that.

I love how people make assumptions. I am sure if you asked Busey himself, he would be OUTRAGED that you assume he is handicapped by his age...

The problem with the majority of society from what I see is it's all COMMON with no decency, and definitely no bloody mirrors.

[FlippingEck]

I worry for society more when it's becoming clear both inside and outside the house how intolerant some people can be.


I am PROUD to be intolerant of homophobia, arrogance, rudeness, physical abuse, mental abuse, animal abuse, just SOME of the things this fool represents.. yes, I am PROUD of my intolerance.

[Josy]

I am PROUD to be intolerant of homophobia, arrogance, rudeness, physical abuse, mental abuse, animal abuse, just SOME of the things this fool represents.. yes, I am PROUD of my intolerance.

Yeah you keep repeating the same things....

[sassysocks]

You know, Im sick of hearing this. I honestly didn't realise there were so many apologists out there for rude arrogant abusive old farts. I really do worry for society.

You keep referring to his age - 'old creep/old fart' which stronglysuggests ageism, which has me worried for society if this is a common opinion of young people today.

James's lack of consideration for Gary's age has been more disturbing to me than anything Gary has said or done on the show.

[lily.]

Again, Im sure your character assassinations will mortify them when they leave the house...

No doubt. I myself am particularly devastated by the picking apart of my post.

[Kizzy]

'In this country'....

In this country we don't threaten to hit 70yr olds either james.

[lily.]

..... I have gone right off James, I think he is an attention-seeking coward who will take on what he considers 'weaker' targets in order to big-himself up.

This 100%


'In this country'....

In this country we don't threaten to hit 70yr olds either james.

Might be a first for us Kizzy, but I totally agree with you here..

[FlippingEck]

Yeah you keep repeating the same things....

and?

[sassysocks]

I love how people make assumptions. I am sure if you asked Busey himself, he would be OUTRAGED that you assume he is handicapped by his age...

The problem with the majority of society from what I see is it's all COMMON with no decency, and definitely no bloody mirrors.

In some ways, getting old is a handicap (handicap is not a dirty word - it basically means restriction). With the commonly related physical and cognitive health issues people become more vulnerable and sleep becomes much more important to their general physical and phychlogical function and well-being. It isn't complicated and why anyone of any age should be able to get it.

[FlippingEck]

You keep referring to his age - 'old creep/old fart' which stronglysuggests ageism, which has me worried for society if this is a common opinion of young people today.

James's lack of consideration for Gary's age has been more disturbing to me than anything Gary has said or done on the show.

I love you class me within the bracket of "young people"

How many times did James say, in the bedroom, I am not going to argue with you Gary, you are older than me and I respect my elders... or did you have hearing disabilities when he said that?

[FlippingEck]

No doubt. I myself am particularly devastated by the picking apart of my post.

Picking apart? Lol. It's called replying where I come from.

[FlippingEck]

In some ways, getting old is a handicap (handicap is not a dirty word - it basically means restriction). With the commonly related physical and cognitive health issues people become more vulnerable and sleep becomes much more important to their general physical and phychlogical function and well-being. It isn't complicated and why anyone of any age should be able to get it.

Age is NOT a handicap.

You see Busey is 70, you are therefore looking at a little check list that says by the time you reach 70 you SHOULD have this, that, this, the other, and that, "issue".

Don't make assumptions about how his age affects him. Don't make excuses for him.

There is no need for your patronising manner.. I have never ONCE said handicap is a dirty word, and I am more than capable of understanding what handicap means. I am also more than capable of understanding that you cannot and should not assume someone is handicapped by something, unless they themselves express that opinion and share it. How dare you?

[lily.]

Picking apart? Lol. It's called replying where I come from.

The use of 'in quote' emboldened snippets is a rather unusual replying style.

[FlippingEck]

The use of 'in quote' emboldened snippets is a rather unusual replying style.

It is nonetheless replying.

[Josy]

and?

And it adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

[FlippingEck]

And it adds nothing of worth to the discussion.

I disagree. It reminds people of the FACTS.

[Josy]

I disagree. It reminds people of the FACTS.

No it actually adds nothing of worth at all to the discussion to repeat the same things over and over, in fact it would be described as spam and that's against the rules.

[sassysocks]

I love you class me within the bracket of "young people"

How many times did James say, in the bedroom, I am not going to argue with you Gary, you are older than me and I respect my elders... or did you have hearing disabilities when he said that?

Don't care what he siad, I know what I saw. Actions speak louder than words.

[sassysocks]

Age is NOT a handicap.

You see Busey is 70, you are therefore looking at a little check list that says by the time you reach 70 you SHOULD have this, that, this, the other, and that, "issue".

Don't make assumptions about how his age affects him. Don't make excuses for him.

There is no need for your patronising manner.. I have never ONCE said handicap is a dirty word, and I am more than capable of understanding what handicap means. I am also more than capable of understanding that you cannot and should not assume someone is handicapped by something, unless they themselves express that opinion and share it. How dare you?

As I work in the medical profession I know how age generally affects most people. There are always the exceptions to the rule but most people experience the restrictions (handicap) of age by the time they are 70. And yes I dare to say that because it is fact, not an offencive comment.