Question regarding Kellie

[Locke.]

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.

[Shaun]

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong :shrug:

[Locke.]

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong :shrug:

But we all know men hitting women is always looked upon in a totally different light than a man hitting a man or woman hitting a woman

[Scream]

umm idk but i get what you mean, even though it should be the same...i think i'd still look at it extremely badly

[Shaun]

But we all know men hitting women is always looked upon in a totally different light than a man hitting a man or woman hitting a woman

well that's just an old-fashioned attitude that needs to die out :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

That is the first thing I thought of. It was weird seeing the encounter tbh.

[PrincessIona]

They? It's 1 person not 2! Either way it's wrong, the concern is Kellie will have a mans strength

[Creggle]

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong :shrug:

Not always D:

[Shaun]

Not always D:

well, OK, in examples of self-defence it's OK, but I can't think of any other examples? (unless it's a playful slap and therefore not assault at all...)

[Northern Monkey]

Ha,I was gonna make this thread too.Imagine if Kellie had slotted her?She'd have knocked her clean out.Woman beating or just a girl fight?

[Pete.]

She was more aggressive in the fight anyway

[Amy Jade]

Kellie as of now is still a male, I respect her decision to become a woman fully but she is still a male under the wig and clothes so squaring up to a woman is unacceptable.

Especially over something so trivial.

[Marsh.]

They? It's 1 person not 2!

they

1. used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.

2. used to refer to a person of unspecified sex.
"ask a friend if they could help"

.

[PrincessIona]

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I stand corrected! Not heard it used in this sort of context before

[Ammi]

I'd treat it as a person hitting another person... it's always wrong :shrug:

..this really, it would be the same regardless of sex..it was equally as bad and aggressive when Emma ..was it Emma..?..was potentially threatening with Victor and was ejected...

[arista]

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.


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[Ammi]

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..I'm not going to read the article but I presume it's something that she has said in the house...there is no context to that headline though...maybe she was saying she finds it hard to be public about it all or just hard in general...and it was 'easier' to live as a male...

[chuff me dizzy]

If they had hit Frenchy when they jumped up and fronted her, would the people calling her a woman be outraged because it was a man hitting a woman, or would they treat it the same way they'd treat any girl hitting another girl?

Keep in mind Kellie's "transformation" isn't anywhere near complete.

Brilliant question :worship: !! I think it would have soon gone to "But he's still a man "

[FlippingEck]

well that's just an old-fashioned attitude that needs to die out :laugh:

I disagree... no man should ever square up to a woman. In the eyes of the law "Kellie" is still a man. "She" very quickly reverted back to male with the threatening attitude and puffed out chest when "she" squared up to Frenchie. I don't like Frenchie, and I am sure had I been in the bedroom when she was prancing around like a tit at god knows what time, I would have kicked her bony ass out of there so quick but "Kellie" showed "her" true colours right there and then.. The fake meditation and fake emotion is just too much to bear... makes me want to vom.

[FlippingEck]

..there is no context to that headline though......

You will never find context in a newspaper headline. That is not the purpose of them. They are there to tempt the drooling knuckledragging chavs to buy the tabloids...
I cannot help but think that this "transformation" is all for a reason... and it smells distinctly like bull**** wrapped in a desperation for recognition and money.. :shrug:

[billy123]

I disagree... no man should ever square up to a woman. In the eyes of the law "Kellie" is still a man. "She" very quickly reverted back to male with the threatening attitude and puffed out chest when "she" squared up to Frenchie. I don't like Frenchie, and I am sure had I been in the bedroom when she was prancing around like a tit at god knows what time, I would have kicked her bony ass out of there so quick but "Kellie" showed "her" true colours right there and then.. The fake meditation and fake emotion is just too much to bear... makes me want to vom.And no woman should ever square up to a man its the same thing unless you are going to be naive and sexist about it.
Its just ignorant and stupid to differentiate between the two they are equally unacceptable acts.

The gender of anyone is completely irrelevant.

[FlippingEck]

And no woman should ever square up to a man its the same thing unless you are going to be naive and sexist about it.
Its just ignorant and stupid to differentiate between the two they are equally unacceptable acts.

The gender of anyone is completely irrelevant.

I totally agree bobnot, Im not being sexist, ignorant or stupid... but Frenchie did not square up to "Kellie"

[sampvt]

You will never find context in a newspaper headline. That is not the purpose of them. They are there to tempt the drooling knuckledragging chavs to buy the tabloids...
I cannot help but think that this "transformation" is all for a reason... and it smells distinctly like bull**** wrapped in a desperation for recognition and money.. :shrug:

Ive been saying this from the moment she walked into the house.

[billy123]

I totally agree bobnot, Im not being sexist, ignorant or stupid... but Frenchie did not square up to "Kellie"
I was referring to your post and not you as a person btw.
The sex of anyone in this situation is completely redundant so the fact it has been brought up by the thread starter is just stupid.

The hypothetical question of who hitting who and what sex they are and how it should be seen is just daft its all the same thing and should be treated as such.

[FlippingEck]

rightly or wrongly, it is still deemed worse for a man to square up to a woman... and im probably just a bit old fashioned..

[chuff me dizzy]

I disagree... no man should ever square up to a woman. In the eyes of the law "Kellie" is still a man. "She" very quickly reverted back to male with the threatening attitude and puffed out chest when "she" squared up to Frenchie. I don't like Frenchie, and I am sure had I been in the bedroom when she was prancing around like a tit at god knows what time, I would have kicked her bony ass out of there so quick but "Kellie" showed "her" true colours right there and then.. The fake meditation and fake emotion is just too much to bear... makes me want to vom.

How pathetic was that in pod :shocked: Jesus Christ ,not a tear in sight attention seeking little man

[chuff me dizzy]

rightly or wrongly, it is still deemed worse for a man to square up to a woman... and im probably just a bit old fashioned..

"Dont mess with me" was a threat

[sampvt]

Firstly it is wrong for anyone to square up to anyone regardless of gender. The likes of Audley squaring up to the likes of Stephany is no more horrid than the likes of Leslie squaring up to the likes of Dee.

It is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other and wrong, but evolution has taught us that the strength of a man, especially one who has boxing skills, is not ethically expected to be accepted if he squares up to a weak woman whos lips weigh more than her biceps.

Personally I am old school and go with the age old adage that men should stick to physical aggression against their own kind, size and age if they are to be aggressive and violence against women should be regarded as wrong, full stop. If you are to disagree with my views and find them Gregorian or even Victorian, then blame the system, not me.

[Vicky.]

You know, I was expecting there to be loads of threads on how aggressive Kellie was during that exchange..I did at one point think she was going to hit Frenchy.