People only give Gary 5 mins before walking off.

[MargeryFan]

If Gary starts a convo with someone, they usually only give him 5 mins before walking off. At which point he'll go and stand next to some other people who then leave almost instantly.

It's really hard to watch sometimes.

[Livia]

It is hard to watch. And considering the way he's treated, he's very calm and accepting of their rudeness.

[jaxie]

I really don't get why some people say he is rude. He takes all the **** they dish out and thanks them.

[jessicadanielle]

I know when I saw George walk off in the kitchen and he was just sat there alone it was so hard to see! And having James etc. telling him it's annoying when he enters a conversation and can't understand must knock his confidence to engage with others too.

I just really hope it all goes over Gary's head and doesn't hurt his feelings. Sometimes he seems not to take their sh*te to heart but he has mentioned a few times that he's sad that everybody hates him :(

[billy123]

I know when I saw George walk off in the kitchen and he was just sat there alone it was so hard to see! And having James etc. telling him it's annoying when he enters a conversation and can't understand must knock his confidence to engage with others too.

I just really hope it all goes over Gary's head and doesn't hurt his feelings. Sometimes he seems not to take their sh*te to heart but he has mentioned a few times that he's sad that everybody hates him :(You could tell it hurt his feelings when George walked off :(

[Josy]

Yes it's very disrespectful IMO yet they say he is the rude one?

[the truth]

I know when I saw George walk off in the kitchen and he was just sat there alone it was so hard to see! And having James etc. telling him it's annoying when he enters a conversation and can't understand must knock his confidence to engage with others too.

I just really hope it all goes over Gary's head and doesn't hurt his feelings. Sometimes he seems not to take their sh*te to heart but he has mentioned a few times that he's sad that everybody hates him :(

watching george in real time was disgusting, he gave gary 2 minutes then started laughing at him saying we need to do sign language and walked off to talk to someone else..........what an ignoramus

[Creggle]

Claire hasn't. <3

[the truth]

Claire hasn't. <3

i havent observed her much, though she threw in a few snide remarks at gary on the live feed too....one was something about taking on board the criticisms. which he has always done even with the most ignorant comments

[jessicadanielle]

watching george in real time was disgusting, he gave gary 2 minutes then started laughing at him saying we need to do sign language and walked off to talk to someone else..........what an ignoramus

God I know I just dunno who George thinks he is. From the sounds of it (couldn't quite pick it up) it seemed like Gary was trying to justify why he finds it difficult to follow conversations (which he just doesn't need to to bloody George) and George couldn't wait to get out of there. Simply cannot believe George has any support.

Claire hasn't. <3

Hope she keeps it up! Edele seems more tolerant of him too.

[jessicadanielle]

i havent observed her much, though she threw in a few snide remarks at gary on the live feed too....one was something about taking on board the criticisms. which he has always done even with the most ignorant comments

I can't quite remember but she was laughing with the group about him at one point but I thought she was just kind of joking about his mannerisms rather than "making fun" of him. Hope so! Don't want her on the dark side.

[Daniel-X]

They're very rude with him I think Edele, Frenchy and Audley are the only ones giving him the time of day

[Scream]

I felt sad watching this on live feed but you all still have to remember...why don't they want to speak to him? There's gotta be a reason they are all feeling similarly.

[Creggle]

i havent observed her much, though she threw in a few snide remarks at gary on the live feed too....one was something about taking on board the criticisms. which he has always done even with the most ignorant comments

Oh wow really? Haven't seen live feed you see... I doubt it was malicious, she doesn't seem the type and 'snide' is a pretty condemning word. You sure she was that bad?


Hope she keeps it up! Edele seems more tolerant of him too.

And Audley!

[Josy]

I felt sad watching this on live feed but you all still have to remember...why don't they want to speak to him? There's gotta be a reason they are all feeling similarly.

Some of them do but when they have James, George, Stephanie etc constantly bitching about him then it's easier for them to follow the crowd than it is to make an effort with him.

And before anyone hits out with 'so Gary can do no wrong' I'm not saying that at all, he can be rude at times, he does have an ego but that hardly makes him a bad person, he has a good heart and really they all mostly blame his hearing problem as the biggest thing that annoys them about him which to me is completely astonishing that they have so little tolerance? it's out of order imo, he can't help it fgs and he asks them what they are saying during other conversations because he wants to feel a part of the group.

[jessicadanielle]

I felt sad watching this on live feed but you all still have to remember...why don't they want to speak to him? There's gotta be a reason they are all feeling similarly.

A group of bullies all don't want to speak to a "nerdy" kid in the playground but it's not because the kid has done anything wrong.. The group are just intolerant because the kid is "different", or because one person decides they don't like them and the rest follow.

(Just to make clear, I'm not suggesting Gary is being bullied, I don't believe he is. Just an analogy :))


And Audley!

Oh yes Audley too, I'm really warming to him.

[MargeryFan]

Some of them do but when they have James, George, Stephanie etc constantly bitching about him then it's easier for them to follow the crowd than it is to make an effort with him.

And before anyone hits out with 'so Gary can do no wrong' I'm not saying that at all, he can be rude at times, he does have an ego but that hardly makes him a bad person, he has a good heart and really they all mostly blame his hearing problem as the biggest thing that annoys them about him which to me is completely astonishing that they have so little tolerance? it's out of order imo, he can't help it fgs and he asks them what they are saying during other conversations because he wants to feel a part of the group.

This. :clap1:

[LukeB]

this series is a mess tbh

[the truth]

that idiot david said in his eviction interview, he once repeated himself 3 times? wow how patient and caring of you....what a twat
he also was bitter at gary because? ermmm he told him to shush? big wow. I only recall seeing that happen one time. for a big man, david is very fragile isnt he?

[CaudleHalbard]

Gary doesn't give a toss. That's the difference between him and the nerdy kid. He is laughing inside.

[jessicadanielle]

Gary doesn't give a toss. That's the difference between him and the nerdy kid. He is laughing inside.

I reaaaally hope so but like I said he shows signs of being upset sometimes at what people say/being nominated etc.

Though I'd imagine so many years in the public eye would teach you not to give a ****** what other people think.

[Jack_]

I read the title as wanking, not walking and suddenly this thread took on a completely different context

[jessicadanielle]

I read the title as wanking, not walking and suddenly this thread took on a completely different context

:laugh2:

[Josy]

Gary doesn't give a toss. That's the difference between him and the nerdy kid. He is laughing inside.

Hmm I disagree, he genuinely looks upset at times you know and not to mention how awkward he must feel.

And really it doesn't matter how he feels about it, they shouldn't be treating people like that at all IMHO.

[CaudleHalbard]

I get the feeling they see Gary as the bully..... or at least rather overbearing.

[Josy]

I get the feeling they see Gary as the bully..... out at least rather overbearing.

D:

I have nothing else to say :laugh:

[LukeB]

i think bullying a 70 year old is vile

[the truth]

i think bullying a 70 year old is vile

look what goes on in british care homes behind closed doors? the morals of this country have gone down the pan

[mary poppins]

BB is really fooling the audience...they are playing this game really well...making out all the housemates are treating Gary badly and ye are all falling for it!! Thirteen him can't be wrong...BB is maipulating it to make it look like Gary's being treated badly...

[jessicadanielle]

BB is really fooling the audience...they are playing this game really well...making out all the housemates are treating Gary badly and ye are all falling for it!! Thirteen him can't be wrong...BB is maipulating it to make it look like Gary's being treated badly...

I know it's only an hour, but on live feed tonight it seemed the same as the HLs with regards to their treatment of Gary. Having a go at him like moral gurus, bitching about him, giggling, avoiding him. Dunno if it really is manipulation tbh. How can you be so sure it's manipulation anyway?! :conf:

[Josy]

BB is really fooling the audience...they are playing this game really well...making out all the housemates are treating Gary badly and ye are all falling for it!! Thirteen him can't be wrong...BB is maipulating it to make it look like Gary's being treated badly...

Of course they are :rolleyes:

[the truth]

I know it's only an hour, but on live feed tonight it seemed the same as the HLs with regards to their treatment of Gary. Having a go at him like moral gurus, bitching about him, giggling, avoiding him. Dunno if it really is manipulation tbh. How can you be so sure it's manipulation anyway?! :conf:

spot on, tonight was the real time truth

[CaudleHalbard]

But if the 70 year old is seen as a bit of a bully himself? Shushing people and pointing a finger in their faces?

Gary has no doubt been told how wonderful he is, for a large part of his adult life. It clearly had come as a shock to him that not everybody feels that way when they have to share his company 24/7. I'm sure in small doses he's ok.

Personally I would not want to be in the
BB house with him. Sorry.

[LukeB]

the audience was **** today

[jaxie]

I get the feeling they see Gary as the bully..... or at least rather overbearing.

They are in denial.

[the truth]

But if the 70 year old is seen as a bit of a bully himself? Shushing people and pointing a finger in their faces?

Gary has no doubt been told how wonderful he is, for a large part of his adult life. It clearly had come as a shock to him that not everybody feels that way when they have to share his company 24/7. I'm sure in small doses he's ok.

Personally I would not want to be in the
BB house with him. Sorry.

youre entitled to your opinion even if it is spectacularly and 110% wrong
youre assuming that hes had an easy life? how do you know that? you assume everyone tells him wonderful he is? why would you assume that? because you assume all successful hollywood actors are up their own anus? or do you think what hes achieved has come easy? do you not consider its hard work? do you not consider how much rejection actors face? do you consider his own disabilities? his own disabled son? why would you not want to be in there with a person who doesnt back stab at all?

[CaudleHalbard]

They are in denial.
No it's Gary's supporters, presumably many of them fans of his films, who are in denial.

I seriously doubt any of us would be happy sharing living space with someone like Gary, 24/7.

[Creggle]

look what goes on in british care homes behind closed doors? the morals of this country have gone down the pan

Still only a small %... Hardly commonplace is it.

[mary poppins]

I know it's only an hour, but on live feed tonight it seemed the same as the HLs with regards to their treatment of Gary. Having a go at him like moral gurus, bitching about him, giggling, avoiding him. Dunno if it really is manipulation tbh. How can you be so sure it's manipulation anyway?! :conf:

Of course its manipulation... Its BB!

[Josy]

No it's Gary's supporters, presumably many of them fans of his films, who are in denial.

I seriously doubt any of us would be happy sharing living space with someone like Gary, 24/7.

Denial of what? you know your point would maybe hold a bit of relevance had it not been proven on Live Feed tonight the extent of how the housemates have been treating Gary.

I'm not saying he would be the easiest to live with either btw but he doesn't deserve to be treated like a total outcast, no one does.

[Josy]

Of course its manipulation... Its BB!

Repeating myself here but there was no manipulation on the LIVE FEED.

[jessicadanielle]

No it's Gary's supporters, presumably many of them fans of his films, who are in denial.

I seriously doubt any of us would be happy sharing living space with someone like Gary, 24/7.

You're acting like it'd be just you and Gary in lift 24/7 :laugh: There are 11 other people and a whole house to spread out in. You wouldn't have to be with him constantly.

I'm sure he'd be annoying at times but so would anybody else on this earth. Everybody has pros and cons and he does have some of the more typical housemate cons, e.g. Never cooking or cleaning. It'd be annoying but it wouldn't make me uncomfortable. Being bitched about and sniggered at would make me feel uncomfortable, and Gary doesn't do that.

In summary, yes I can see how some aspects of him might be annoying to live with. However, there are traits in the other hms that I think would be awful to live with, and Gary just doesn't compare.

And to clarify, I didn't know who he was before BB and was disappointed a Hollywood star was going in because I presumed he'd just be typical and boring, so none of my opinion of him is based on me being a fan of his films or anything.

[jessicadanielle]

Of course its manipulation... Its BB!

With your response you have avoided all of the points I made about how treatment of Gary appeared the same on live feed...

[mary poppins]

Repeating myself here but there was no manipulation on the LIVE FEED.

I'm not talking about LIVE FEED!!

[the truth]

They are in denial.

theyll come out like jade and the coven of witches....acting all innocent

[jessicadanielle]

I'm not talking about LIVE FEED!!

Arrgghh you're saying that we're all so foolish that BB is manipulating us into thinking Gary is being treated badly on the highlights, but the LIVE FEED shows the exact same treatment. Therefore, chances are, it isn't manipulation. They really are just arseholes.

[Josy]

I'm not talking about LIVE FEED!!

Right...well we are using Live Feed to prove our point because that's not manipulated at all and the highlights are edited...therefore if the housemates treatment of Gary is even worse on the live feed then don't you think what you are saying just isn't possible?

[the truth]

Still only a small %... Hardly commonplace is it.

it is commonplace...in fact id say 90% of the care homes around here have cases of abuse or neglect.....the staff warn people never to bring their relatives there. people just dont care anymore. maybe its the drugs they get prescribed that kill their senses

[the truth]

the live feed proves exactly the way theyre bullying gary

[mary poppins]

I didn't see him being treated badly on live feed...he had his conversation with James...just because George walked into the kitchen ? Are any of you even listening to gary? He doesn't take it personally...he's there to play the game and win..he's quiet capable of looking after himself...look at the man...not his age and not his disability!

[the truth]

I didn't see him being treated badly on live feed...he had his conversation with James...just because George walked into the kitchen ? Are any of you even listening to gary? He doesn't take it personally...he's there to play the game and win..he's quiet capable of looking after himself...look at the man...not his age and not his disability!

youre ignoring all the ignorance, the back stabbing , the endless slagging behind his back, the refusal to listen to him, the patronising false nonsense....george also disappointed when he coudlnt talk for 2 minutes without walking off and joking we should have learnt sign language

they squeezed a whole load of ignorant bullying into 60 minutes .......and we didnt even hear half of it as BB dubbed it out

[jessicadanielle]

I didn't see him being treated badly on live feed...he had his conversation with James...just because George walked into the kitchen ? Are any of you even listening to gary? He doesn't take it personally...he's there to play the game and win..he's quiet capable of looking after himself...look at the man...not his age and not his disability!

Just because Gary is able to look after himself doesn't make the treatment other people throw at him any more justified. I am looking at the man not his age or disability.. No person deserves to be isolated or looked down upon like Gary is sometimes. It is the housemates who seem to be judging Gary based on his disability.

[mary poppins]

Oh here we go...the bully word...

Time for bed!

[the truth]

Oh here we go...the bully word...

Time for bed!

yes and youll wake up to that word too, until it stops. when garfield leaves victorious REGARDLESS OF THE RESULT:wavey:

[jet]

Arrgghh you're saying that we're all so foolish that BB is manipulating us into thinking Gary is being treated badly on the highlights, but the LIVE FEED shows the exact same treatment. Therefore, chances are, it isn't manipulation. They really are just arseholes.

That live feed was just after live nominations though when tensions and feelings are running high. It's not a good example of what a normal everyday live feed may be like.

[Dollface]

I'm actually disgusted that they are treating him like that. They have no patience and no respect, it really is awful. They should be ashamed of themselves. Dee tries to make out she's a mother hen type figure, yet the one person that could do with a bit of help, she's shunning, just like the rest of them in there are. :rant:

[Patricia4]

Ive just wrote this on the Live Feed thread.
On live feed lastnight I watched and people didn't want to talk to him he went to talk to George he spoke a couple of words to him and walked away Gary then went to the kitchen area and Ricci and James walked away from him nobody want's to talk to this guy.Dee then went from the garden and slagged him off for no reason at all what is up with these nasty folk.

[Vanessa]

:( I think now they will be jealous of his popularity.