13 against 1 ?

[chuff me dizzy]

It doesn't take a lot of figuring out ,ALL the hm8s dislike Busey ,not the odd 1 or 2 ,but its all the others fault and not Garys ? oh come on !!

[Calderyon]

When has Angelique (Frenchy) said she dislikes him?

[chuff me dizzy]

When has Angelique (Frenchy) said she dislikes him?

Sorry 12 against 1

[FlippingEck]

of course, it's James' fault. He started the disliking, and all the others followed like sheep..

At least that's what the Busey fans would have you believe... That's actually quite complimentary to James to think that 1 man could be so influential over the other hm's thought process....

As David said last night on BOTS.. and exactly as I've said from the start, WE see a heavily edited condensed hour from 24 hours recording, I can only imagine how irritating the bloke is 24 hours a day in a confined space. He does not listen to other people's opinion, he doesn't lift a finger, he doesn't even wash unless he is prompted to do so.. I cannot imagine, and don't want to imagine, just how bad he is to live with..

[Vanessa]

No one liked Jim Davison either and he won. Same for Aaron, he also was universally hated in the House.

[Calderyon]

Also i´m not entirely sure, but i have not heard Edele and Claire to air their utter dislike for him either.

8 out of 12 nominated him. So that´s 8 in the house that possibly dislike him.

[Ammi]

..I don't think they all dislike him to the same degree, I just think that for some it's the easiest option/he's an 'easy target' because it's not their 'agenda' to be getting involved in any confrontations...anyway, would he be annoying and irritating to live with..?..yeah, he would, it would require patience and tolerance...it's not expected that they would have that all of the time but they appear to have it none of the time...so maybe no, they're not all at fault in how they feel but they're all at fault in how they're acting on it...all it would take I think is one of them to say...'hey guys, this is wrong, let's stop mocking him and just spend a little time with him..just a little..'...

[Vanessa]

..I don't think they all dislike him to the same degree, I just think that for some it's the easiest option/he's an 'easy target' because it's not their 'agenda' to be getting involved in any confrontations...anyway, would he be annoying and irritating to live with..?..yeah, he would, it would require patience and tolerance...it's not expected that they would have that all of the time but they appear to have it none of the time...so maybe no, they're not all at fault in how they feel but they're all at fault in how they're acting on it...all it would take I think is one of them to say...'hey guys, this is wrong, let's stop mocking him and just spend a little time with him..just a little..'...

I bet they don't treat their grandads like that. :bored:

[Denver]

Also i´m not entirely sure, but i have not heard Edele and Claire to air their utter dislike for him either.

Edele did last night and claire was involved in the game to jump into his bed

[bots]

Its a game show, of course 12 can be intimidated by 1 if they see their reason for being on the show being taken away from under them.

They are all such a conceited and shallow bunch that they can't cope with anyone that is quirky and is confident of his own self worth. Its classic behaviour from a bunch of losers. If they had anything to them at all and Gary was so difficult to live with he would just be completely ignored. As it is, he is almost the sole topic of their conversation. Not one of them is capable of taking on Gary in terms of a rounded and interesting personality, they are just vile has been's trying to re-ignite some public interest in themselves and don't stand a chance of achieving that when dwarfed by the mighty Mr. Busey

[Vanessa]

Its a game show, of course 12 can be intimidated by 1 if they see their reason for being on the show being taken away from under them.

They are all such a conceited and shallow bunch that they can't cope with anyone that is quirky and is confident of his own self worth. Its classic behaviour from a bunch of losers. If they had anything to them at all and Gary was so difficult to live with he would just be completely ignored. As it is, he is almost the sole topic of their conversation. Not one of them is capable of taking on Gary in terms of a rounded and interesting personality, they are just vile has been's trying to re-ignite some public interest in themselves and don't stand a chance of achieving that when dwarfed by the mighty Mr. Busey

:clap1:

[Ammi]

I bet they don't treat their grandads like that. :bored:

..well no Vanessa but in honesty I wouldn't expect them to treat him the same because he's not family, it's different you know..?...but just have some tolerance for his hearing impairment and that he may want to talk about things they have no interest in..?...maybe they would find themselves being interested..?...but if not, then just give up a little of their time now and then and have consideration of how he must feel...

[chuff me dizzy]

of course, it's James' fault. He started the disliking, and all the others followed like sheep..

At least that's what the Busey fans would have you believe... That's actually quite complimentary to James to think that 1 man could be so influential over the other hm's thought process....

As David said last night on BOTS.. and exactly as I've said from the start, WE see a heavily edited condensed hour from 24 hours recording, I can only imagine how irritating the bloke is 24 hours a day in a confined space. He does not listen to other people's opinion, he doesn't lift a finger, he doesn't even wash unless he is prompted to do so.. I cannot imagine, and don't want to imagine, just how bad he is to live with..

Ive seen maggots crawling out of the bottom of them trousers he's had on since he came in and the jacket, dirty ,smelly get

[Calderyon]

claire was involved in the game to jump into his bed

But she was probably very drunk and probably just wanted to participate. Also she talks with him all the time in the garden, so why would she do that, if she dislikes him so much...

[Vanessa]

..well no Vanessa but in honesty I wouldn't expect them to treat him the same because he's not family, it's different you know..?...but just have some tolerance for his hearing impairment and that he may want to talk about things they have no interest in..?...maybe they would find themselves being interested..?...but if not, then just give up a little of their time now and then and have consideration of how he must feel...

I was brought up to respect you elders. That lot has no respect and i hope they're evicted one by one.

[Ammi]

I was brought up to respect you elders. That lot has no respect and i hope they're evicted one by one.

..even if he wasn't an elder though Vanessa, it's just having a little tolerance/respect for someone with different views, interests etc and not mocking and ridiculing them...

[FlippingEck]

I bet they don't treat their grandads like that. :bored:

I am sick to death of hearing this. This is the weakest argument ever. Are you trying to say his age makes him who he is? I doubt that would be very acceptable to Mr Busey..

Id gamble that their granddad's show them respect, are not rude to them, do not need telling to have a wash, do not sit on their rears expecting the world to happen around them..

Shall we just not make assumptions about housemates families.. it's really not adding to the argument.. it's pointless. Im really unsure how you can compare people's relationship with close family members, and strangers... :shrug:

[Vanessa]

..even if he wasn't an elder though Vanessa, it's just having a little tolerance/respect for someone with different views, interests etc and not mocking and ridiculing them...

Exactly. They can't stand anyone who is a bit different. So narrow minded!

[chuff me dizzy]

I was brought up to respect you elders. That lot has no respect and i hope they're evicted one by one.

Respect has to be earned its not a God given right

[FlippingEck]

I was brought up to respect you elders. That lot has no respect and i hope they're evicted one by one.

I was raised to offer respect to those who offer it to you.. age is irrelevant.
Busey respects NOONE, not even himself.
If he had any self respect he'd be more hygienic.

[Kazanne]

It doesn't take a lot of figuring out ,ALL the hm8s dislike Busey ,not the odd 1 or 2 ,but its all the others fault and not Garys ? oh come on !!

I think they are just following the pack Chuff,like Lesley planted the seed that Gary was 'not nice' then you get James treating him like he's something to be ridiculed,and Stephanie who is just plain nasty and the others are so weak they just ride along with it,I've not liked what I've seen,I'm sure Gary is annoying but some of it cant be helped imo.

[Vanessa]

I am sick to death of hearing this. This is the weakest argument ever. Are you trying to say his age makes him who he is? I doubt that would be very acceptable to Mr Busey..

Id gamble that their granddad's show them respect, are not rude to them, do not need telling to have a wash, do not sit on their rears expecting the world to happen around them..

Shall we just not make assumptions about housemates families.. it's really not adding to the argument.. it's pointless. Im really unsure how you can compare people's relationship with close family members, and strangers... :shrug:

They're rude to him all the time.

[Vanessa]

Respect has to be earned its not a God given right

You always respect your elders in my book.

[Vanessa]

I think they are just following the pack Chuff,like Lesley planted the seed that Gary was 'not nice' then you get James treating him like he's something to be ridiculed,and Stephanie who is just plain nasty and the others are so weak they just ride along with it,I've not liked what I've seen,I'm sure Gary is annoying but some of it cant be helped imo.

I hope that lot is evicted one by one, except Frenchie, Claire and Audley. They seem to be nicer.

[FlippingEck]

..but just have some tolerance for his hearing impairment and that he may want to talk about things they have no interest in..?...maybe they would find themselves being interested..?...but if not, then just give up a little of their time now and then and have consideration of how he must feel...

This is very much a mutual thing.. when they sit and talk to him about things THEY want to talk about, he is rude, SHHHHHH's them and interrupts them.. Maybe HE could be a little more tolerant of the other housemates, open HIS ears and close his mouth, listen to what THEY have to say because you know, he is a mere mortal the same as the rest of them... Do you honestly think he considers how any of the others must feel?

[chuff me dizzy]

I think they are just following the pack Chuff,like Lesley planted the seed that Gary was 'not nice' then you get James treating him like he's something to be ridiculed,and Stephanie who is just plain nasty and the others are so weak they just ride along with it,I've not liked what I've seen,I'm sure Gary is annoying but some of it cant be helped imo.

I think James has been lovely with him,far better than he could have been ,what I'm saying is if the all don't like him its got to be his fault

[Ammi]

This is very much a mutual thing.. when they sit and talk to him about things THEY want to talk about, he is rude, SHHHHHH's them and interrupts them.. Maybe HE could be a little more tolerant of the other housemates, open HIS ears and close his mouth, listen to what THEY have to say because you know, he is a mere mortal the same as the rest of them... Do you honestly think he considers how any of the others must feel?

..you may be right, I don't say he's 'perfect' or without fault himself but he's one person and they're 'many people' so just say something to him and explain rather than just mock and avoid him...to me it's not so much what their point may be or whether it's valid, it's how they're behaving with it....

[FlippingEck]

They're rude to him all the time.

And you know this how?

[Vanessa]

The best housemates are always hated by their fellow housemates. It happens everytime. They see someone a bit different and they want them out. Gang mentality. It happened last year with Jim Davison.

[Vanessa]

And you know this how?

Just watch live feed and you'll see. They don't even give him a chance to finish a sentence, before walking away.

[poppsywoppsy]

I don't think James has been lovely to him, Yes, he looks out for him but tells the world over and over again that he has, talking over Gary just as much as vice versa and speaking to him as if James is totally in the right about everything.

James should butt out, he is not Big Brother and has been chastised already by BB for his intolerance.

James Jordan is an intolerant big mouth and should keep his opinions and gob shut whilst looking at his own failings. He is the one disliked so why does he think he can tell others anything.

[Vanessa]

I don't think James has been lovely to him, Yes, he looks out for him but tells the world over and over again that he has, talking over Gary just as much as vice versa and speaking to him as if James is totally in the right about everything.

James should butt out, he is not Big Brother and has been chastised already by BB for his intolerance.

James Jordan is an intolerant big mouth and should keep his opinions and gob shut whilst looking at his own failings. He is the one disliked so why does he think he can tell others anything.

I'm glad the boos are driving him mad. Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke. :devil:

[Ammi]

I don't think James has been lovely to him, Yes, he looks out for him but tells the world over and over again that he has, talking over Gary just as much as vice versa and speaking to him as if James is totally in the right about everything.

James should butt out, he is not Big Brother and has been chastised already by BB for his intolerance.

James Jordan is an intolerant big mouth and should keep his opinions and gob shut whilst looking at his own failings. He is the one disliked so why does he think he can tell others anything.

..he is occasionally considerate from the HL shows I think ..whether it be sincere or just because of what BB said in the DR, I don't know..?..but then he instantly cancels out those few times by the huge part he plays in mocking and being snidey about Gary...

[Vanessa]

..he is occasionally considerate from the HL shows I think ..whether it be sincere or just because of what BB said in the DR, I don't know..?..but then he instantly cancels out those few times by the huge part he plays in mocking and being snidey about Gary...

James is such a tool. Glad he got booed. He better get used to it. :smug:

[chuff me dizzy]

James is such a tool. Glad he got booed. He better get used to it. :smug:

Gary didn't get all cheers either

[Vanessa]

Gary didn't get all cheers either

I think the crowd is told who to boo and who to cheer. David got the biggest cheers and was evicted. It can't be a coincidence.

[chuff me dizzy]

I think the crowd is told who to boo and who to cheer. David got the biggest cheers and was evicted. It can't be a coincidence.

Oh come on Vanessa ,you dont hand on heart believe this ,in life you have to accept not everyone likes who you do

[Liam-]

You always respect your elders in my book.

Even if that elder is rude, inconsiderate and ungrateful? People shouldn't get respect for being older, people should earn respect by being nice and respectful to other people.

[bots]

Gary didn't get all cheers either

The crowd are pantomime, David got the most cheers, it didn't reflect on the result :laugh:

This BB is Gary's to lose at the moment, because from where I'm standing none of the others have shown anything to suggest they are capable of winning. They can whine all they like about Gary, that will never win it for them. One of them needs to step up and behave with some integrity if they are going to win, and no-one has had the balls to do it yet. When they all start leaving one by one, that may change, but until then, its King Gary :dance:

[chuff me dizzy]

The crowd are pantomime, David got the most cheers, it didn't reflect on the result :laugh:

This BB is Gary's to lose at the moment, because from where I'm standing none of the others have shown anything to suggest they are capable of winning. They can whine all they like about Gary, that will never win it for them. One of them needs to step up and behave with some integrity if they are going to win, and no-one has had the balls to do it yet. When they all start leaving one by one, that may change, but until then, its King Gary :dance:

IF he had got all cheers(which he didn't) you would have been saying what a great crowd !!

[chuff me dizzy]

Even if that elder is rude, inconsiderate and ungrateful? People shouldn't get respect for being older, people should earn respect by being nice and respectful to other people.

:clap1::worship:

[Vanessa]

Oh come on Vanessa ,you dont hand on heart believe this ,in life you have to accept not everyone likes who you do

The person who gets them most cheers is always evicted. It's just so odd. :laugh:

[Vanessa]

Even if that elder is rude, inconsiderate and ungrateful? People shouldn't get respect for being older, people should earn respect by being nice and respectful to other people.

They're also very rude to him.

[FlippingEck]

Just watch live feed and you'll see. They don't even give him a chance to finish a sentence, before walking away.

Do you have more live feed than everyone else there?

So you are basing your opinions on the hour of live feed after evictions?? Or do you have more live feed than the rest of us?

[Vanessa]

The crowd are pantomime, David got the most cheers, it didn't reflect on the result :laugh:

This BB is Gary's to lose at the moment, because from where I'm standing none of the others have shown anything to suggest they are capable of winning. They can whine all they like about Gary, that will never win it for them. One of them needs to step up and behave with some integrity if they are going to win, and no-one has had the balls to do it yet. When they all start leaving one by one, that may change, but until then, its King Gary :dance:

:dance: And Queen Frenchy.

[Vanessa]

Do you have more live feed than everyone else there?

So you are basing your opinions on the hour of live feed after evictions?? Or do you have more live feed than the rest of us?

They act the same on the highlights. They have no patience with him.

[Liam-]

They're also very rude to him.

Because he is rude to them.. Coming from someone who's had to deal with someone just like Gary I can say that I has to be extremely difficult to live with him 24/7.. People keep saying everyone should have tolerance for his behaviour and make excused for him, but why should they? If he was a family member of theirs, they probably would be extremely tolerable of his attitude and the way he treats people, but he's not, so try shouldn't have to look past anything, as a lot of people on here have stated before, his disability and age shouldn't define him as a person, so that all of those things away and he's just a very rude person.

[Vanessa]

Because he is rude to them.. Coming from someone who's had to deal with someone just like Gary I can say that I has to be extremely difficult to live with him 24/7.. People keep saying everyone should have tolerance for his behaviour and make excused for him, but why should they? If he was a family member of theirs, they probably would be extremely tolerable of his attitude and the way he treats people, but he's not, so try shouldn't have to look past anything, as a lot of people on here have stated before, his disability and age shouldn't define him as a person, so that all of those things away and he's just a very rude person.

They aren't any better to be honest.

[chuff me dizzy]

Because he is rude to them.. Coming from someone who's had to deal with someone just like Gary I can say that I has to be extremely difficult to live with him 24/7.. People keep saying everyone should have tolerance for his behaviour and make excused for him, but why should they? If he was a family member of theirs, they probably would be extremely tolerable of his attitude and the way he treats people, but he's not, so try shouldn't have to look past anything, as a lot of people on here have stated before, his disability and age shouldn't define him as a person, so that all of those things away and he's just a very rude person.

EXACTLY !! All the utter rot about him being deaf, I'm sure he could afford good aids, he must choose not to, but as I pointed out the other day ,when he was rowing with Jakes in the bedroom and walked away James whispered something Busy came charging back ,he heard that didn't he ?

[chuff me dizzy]

They act the same on the highlights. They have no patience with him.

More than I would have :idc:

[Vanessa]

Gary is the new Jimbo. :joker:

[FlippingEck]

Gary is the new Jimbo. :joker:

Wow... now there's something to be proud of.. I can see the likeness.. arrogant rude homophobic racist.. yeah,, all the wonderful positive traits you'd look for in hero! :idc:

[Vanessa]

Wow... now there's something to be proud of.. I can see the likeness.. arrogant rude homophobic racist.. yeah,, all the wonderful positive traits you'd look for in hero! :idc:

He won the show. :smug:

[jessicadanielle]

This is very much a mutual thing.. when they sit and talk to him about things THEY want to talk about, he is rude, SHHHHHH's them and interrupts them.. Maybe HE could be a little more tolerant of the other housemates, open HIS ears and close his mouth, listen to what THEY have to say because you know, he is a mere mortal the same as the rest of them... Do you honestly think he considers how any of the others must feel?

I had a suspicion that this might be the case.. That if any of the other housemates speak he'd just be disinterested and interrupt. However, last night's live feed showed differently. James lectured him for ages, then Audley came in so James turned around to lecture him too, and Gary sat and waited patiently for James to finish to have more of a lecture. When Gary went out into the garden to Dee and Claire, they asked how he was, then he asked it back and listened to Dee. Bit daft really to say that Gary never listens to what others have to say when he bloody showered the other day just cause James decided it was time to.

[mary poppins]

You always respect your elders in my book.

Respect works both ways.

[chuff me dizzy]

Wow... now there's something to be proud of.. I can see the likeness.. arrogant rude homophobic racist.. yeah,, all the wonderful positive traits you'd look for in hero! :idc:

SO true !! Vanessa did right in linking these 2

[FlippingEck]

I had a suspicion that this might be the case.. That if any of the other housemates speak he'd just be disinterested and interrupt. However, last night's live feed showed differently. James lectured him for ages, then Audley came in so James turned around to lecture him too, and Gary sat and waited patiently for James to finish to have more of a lecture. When Gary went out into the garden to Dee and Claire, they asked how he was, then he asked it back and listened to Dee. Bit daft really to say that Gary never listens to what others have to say when he bloody showered the other day just cause James decided it was time to.

Im watching live feed again now, and James is not lecturing anyone, he is discussing with Gary.. and Gary is actually AGREEING with what he is saying... If you honestly listen to Gary when he is talking with James, he agrees with what James is saying about how rude he is and he admits he needs to change and is trying to change....

As for James deciding it was time for Gary to shower, how pathetic is that? A grown man of 70 years old doesn't realise the need for personal hygiene and self respect? Seriously? at 70 years old you really should know when you need to shower and wash yourself, change your clothes even... My kids knew about personal hygiene right from being old enough to know about it... it's not rocket science..

[lily.]

Gary is a quirky individual. I'm sure he's an absolute nightmare to live with but that does not excuse the way some of the HMs treat him. The snidey remarks and insults just show them up for the ***** they are.

[CaudleHalbard]

Oh well, at least Gary is the least likely celebrity to walk out. ;)

He has enormous debts and needs the money: http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/gary-busey-net-worth/

All rather sad really.

[mary poppins]

Im watching live feed again now, and James is not lecturing anyone, he is discussing with Gary.. and Gary is actually AGREEING with what he is saying... If you honestly listen to Gary when he is talking with James, he agrees with what James is saying about how rude he is and he admits he needs to change and is trying to change....

As for James deciding it was time for Gary to shower, how pathetic is that? A grown man of 70 years old doesn't realise the need for personal hygiene and self respect? Seriously? at 70 years old you really should know when you need to shower and wash yourself, change your clothes even... My kids knew about personal hygiene right from being old enough to know about it... it's not rocket science..

Spot on!

[Liam-]

He won the show. :smug:

Doesn't make him a nice person, just good at fooling people :joker:

[chuff me dizzy]

Doesn't make him a nice person, just good at fooling people :joker:

You're on top form today !!!

[jessicadanielle]

Im watching live feed again now, and James is not lecturing anyone, he is discussing with Gary.. and Gary is actually AGREEING with what he is saying... If you honestly listen to Gary when he is talking with James, he agrees with what James is saying about how rude he is and he admits he needs to change and is trying to change....

As for James deciding it was time for Gary to shower, how pathetic is that? A grown man of 70 years old doesn't realise the need for personal hygiene and self respect? Seriously? at 70 years old you really should know when you need to shower and wash yourself, change your clothes even... My kids knew about personal hygiene right from being old enough to know about it... it's not rocket science..

:laugh2: you've just contradicted your own point! You originally said "do you really think Gary cares about how others feel?" to which I responded, and are now saying that Gary takes on board what James says and admits he's trying to change, just because you felt my comment ("lecturing") was a criticism of James. It's getting so bloody old when people relentlessly criticise their least favourite and will never accept any criticism of the ones they like. Just accept that Gary has some good qualities just like everybody else ffs.

[Jules2]

of course, it's James' fault. He started the disliking, and all the others followed like sheep..

At least that's what the Busey fans would have you believe... That's actually quite complimentary to James to think that 1 man could be so influential over the other hm's thought process....

As David said last night on BOTS.. and exactly as I've said from the start, WE see a heavily edited condensed hour from 24 hours recording, I can only imagine how irritating the bloke is 24 hours a day in a confined space. He does not listen to other people's opinion, he doesn't lift a finger, he doesn't even wash unless he is prompted to do so.. I cannot imagine, and don't want to imagine, just how bad he is to live with..

You need to watch the live feed to see how he is pushed out.....they are all sheep living in a pen and the gate is firmly closed for Gary. Yes James and Leslie did begin it all, it only takes one or two sheep and the others keep in because they want to be pat of the larger group to avoid nominations. Mind you they have turned on Leslie now....Couldnt stand watching Davids ego last night, his page is all about his body!! I fast forwarded it, thank goodness for that button.

[Liam-]

You're on top form today !!!

It really gets my back up when people throw the word 'bully' around so easily.. it happens every year whenever someone doesn't kiss the ass of the people's favourite, this is the real world, not everyone gets along and not everyone will agree, yes people in there could be a bit more patient with Gary, but at the end of the day, peoples attitude towards Gary is based off of the fact that he's rude and obnoxious, his hearing and age doesn't play a factor in peoples dislike for him and for people to say it does, is incredibly rude.. I've seen many people say 'his disability shouldn't define him, that's just a small part of him, he's a person beyond that' then the next minute 'How dare they look past his disability and treat him that way!' People can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

[Suze]

It's always the same with the Celebs, they take a dislike to the American housemates as noms always show. I also remember Jim D getting hate from a lot his year, but he took it in his stride and went on to win :) I wouldn't take the word of a disgruntled David peeved that he was evicted first, must have been such a blow to that oversized ego of his.

Gary for the final hopefully :)

[FlippingEck]

You need to watch the live feed to see how he is pushed out.....they are all sheep living in a pen and the gate is firmly closed for Gary. Yes James and Leslie did begin it all, it only takes one or two sheep and the others keep in because they want to be pat of the larger group to avoid nominations. Mind you they have turned on Leslie now....Couldnt stand watching Davids ego last night, his page is all about his body!! I fast forwarded it, thank goodness for that button.

I just watched the live feed again from last night.
There was no pushing out last night. Seriously consider what it must be like living with him..

[Jules2]

Im watching live feed again now, and James is not lecturing anyone, he is discussing with Gary.. and Gary is actually AGREEING with what he is saying... If you honestly listen to Gary when he is talking with James, he agrees with what James is saying about how rude he is and he admits he needs to change and is trying to change....

As for James deciding it was time for Gary to shower, how pathetic is that? A grown man of 70 years old doesn't realise the need for personal hygiene and self respect? Seriously? at 70 years old you really should know when you need to shower and wash yourself, change your clothes even... My kids knew about personal hygiene right from being old enough to know about it... it's not rocket science..

Gary is a fool to himself tbh, he doesnt have to keep on apologising and saying that he is learning. He is his own man and he is far better than the lot of them. How many of them are learning, how many of them will admit it, they all think they are so b.... great. James is the worse one, condescending and trying to make himself look good in the publics eyes. It isnt working.

Gary said to him in the first place...he got him to repeat his first question, James was trying to say why he nominated Gary, Gary insisted that he ask his first question again. The question was "are you ok" Gary told him that he was fine, he did not hold grudges and that everything was ok. In other words there wasnt any need to explain. James still went on and on and on, trying his hardest to put Gary in his place with the silly little Stephanie smirking underneath here covers. James was trying to make Gary look small in Stephanies eyes because yes, he fancies her alright. Sadly Gary thinks that James is his friend, it is a shame that Frenchy isnt there with him to tell him what a plonker he is. He waited for James to follow him out of the bedroom, when he didnt do it because he wanted to talk to Stephanie, she had called him over, he told Gary to go on and that they werent going to talk about him. Gary went and they talked about Gary....great friend eh!! She advised James not to take any notice of what Gary said, the little brat.

Then his majesty James, either before that incident or after, cant remember now, had to go out and tell Audley what he had actually said, he put the blame on Stephanie. We saw it all James. Go and sort yourself out and look to your own faults, you are not capable of sorting anyone else out. He didnt like the boos and the cry of "get James out" he declared that he was funny....Hopefully they will shout again on Friday.

[FlippingEck]

:laugh2: you've just contradicted your own point! You originally said "do you really think Gary cares about how others feel?" to which I responded, and are now saying that Gary takes on board what James says and admits he's trying to change, just because you felt my comment ("lecturing") was a criticism of James. It's getting so bloody old when people relentlessly criticise their least favourite and will never accept any criticism of the ones they like. Just accept that Gary has some good qualities just like everybody else ffs.


FFS read back what you have put and think about it please.

I stand by what I said. I don't think Gary cares that some of the housemates take the piss out of him, I think he does see the genuine side of James, do you actually watch live feed or do you need me to watch it again and transcript it for you. In fairness, I struggle to see Gary's redeeming qualities.. but I do see that James has a difficult side.. I can see the bad in my favourites... can you in yours?

[chuff me dizzy]

It really gets my back up when people throw the word 'bully' around so easily.. it happens every year whenever someone doesn't kiss the ass of the people's favourite, this is the real world, not everyone gets along and not everyone will agree, yes people in there could be a bit more patient with Gary, but at the end of the day, peoples attitude towards Gary is based off of the fact that he's rude and obnoxious, his hearing and age doesn't play a factor in peoples dislike for him and for people to say it does, is incredibly rude.. I've seen many people say 'his disability shouldn't define him, that's just a small part of him, he's a person beyond that' then the next minute 'How dare they look past his disability and treat him that way!' People can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

Yes it does and its bloody boring ,EVERY series the do goobers have to chose someone they can champion and claim they are being bullied therefore making them look mother Theresas by defending them, its happened for years flower

[mary poppins]

David was honest when he came out...if he had said the opposite he would be called two faced! He didn't get on with Gary and admitted it on BOTS.

[chuff me dizzy]

Get some self pride you dirty gett !!!

http://t.co/atM7UgwuRV

[LukeB]

Sorry 12 against 1

was gonna say there both in an alliance :D

[Jules2]

Yes it does and its bloody boring ,EVERY series the do goobers have to chose someone they can champion and claim they are being bullied therefore making them look mother Theresas by defending them, its happened for years flower

I think that the majority of us have watched BB long enough to know that none of the HMs are perfect, they each have their own agenda. Many accept them for what and who they are, not out of sympathy or adulation just respect and the love of something different other than bedding, sex talk, bitching etc. etc.

Havent really seen many do gooders for Gary, only people who respect him. I love the cultural difference and I love learning from it but sadly I always think that the Brits let themselves down. Imo none of them can compare with some of the Americans we have had on the show, in this instance it is, Gary.

I wonder who will be let out of the sheep pen tomorrow, hopefully Stephanie.

[FlippingEck]

Gary is a fool to himself tbh, he doesnt have to keep on apologising and saying that he is learning. He is his own man and he is far better than the lot of them. How many of them are learning, how many of them will admit it, they all think they are so b.... great. James is the worse one, condescending and trying to make himself look good in the publics eyes. It isnt working. How is he being condescending? He is taking time out to talk one on one with Gary and he is trying to help him ffs..

Gary said to him in the first place...he got him to repeat his first question, James was trying to say why he nominated Gary, Gary insisted that he ask his first question again. The question was "are you ok" Gary told him that he was fine, he did not hold grudges and that everything was ok. In other words there wasnt any need to explain. So James should have just shut up and walked away at that point? James wanted to explain to him the reasons for his nominations.. is the "great Gary Busey" too great and powerful to allow his fellow housemates time to discuss something? At least he bloody bothered, the rest didn't give a **** if he was upset by the nominations... James still went on and on and on, trying his hardest to put Gary in his place with the silly little Stephanie smirking underneath here covers. James was trying to make Gary look small in Stephanies eyes because yes, he fancies her alright. Sadly Gary thinks that James is his friend, it is a shame that Frenchy isnt there with him to tell him what a plonker he is.Im sure James would be devastated the French thing thinks he's a plonker!!! He waited for James to follow him out of the bedroom, when he didnt do it because he wanted to talk to Stephanie, she had called him over, he told Gary to go on and that they werent going to talk about him. Gary went and they talked about Gary....great friend eh!! She advised James not to take any notice of what Gary said, the little brat. James is perfectly capable of making his own decisions you know!!!


:shrug:

[Jules2]

Wow... now there's something to be proud of.. I can see the likeness.. arrogant rude homophobic racist.. yeah,, all the wonderful positive traits you'd look for in hero! :idc:

He was a worthy winner of his series, I loved him and voted for him all the way through.

[Suze]

He was a worthy winner of his series, I loved him and voted for him all the way through.


Ditto.

[FlippingEck]

He was a worthy winner of his series, I loved him and voted for him all the way through.

Good, im pleased for you. I disagree with you thank God. Racism and homophobia are not qualities I like to see rewarded.. in any way.

[Liam-]

Good, im pleased for you. I disagree with you thank God. Racism and homophobia are not qualities I like to see rewarded.. in any way.

Don't forget the wife beating!

[Suze]

I think that the majority of us have watched BB long enough to know that none of the HMs are perfect, they each have their own agenda. Many accept them for what and who they are, not out of sympathy or adulation just respect and the love of something different other than bedding, sex talk, bitching etc. etc.

Havent really seen many do gooders for Gary, only people who respect him. I love the cultural difference and I love learning from it but sadly I always think that the Brits let themselves down. Imo none of them can compare with some of the Americans we have had on the show, in this instance it is, Gary.

I wonder who will be let out of the sheep pen tomorrow, hopefully Stephanie.

With you on that, so fingers crossed.

[Josy]

It's not as simple as '13 to 1'.

Some of the housemates take time to talk to Gary, Edele, Frenchy and a couple of others come to mind but it's easier for them to join the pack.

Dee never had a problem with Gary until the task where she took the easy way out and named him for everything, then when he spoke to her about it that's when she started moaning about him, did you hear Dee say one bad thing about Gary before that? I heard moans about Leslie, not Gary though.

Ricci and Lauren follow the crowd but Lauren has said herself 'you just have to take Gary the way he is'

Stephanie has had a problem with him since the start.

And James well he likes to pretend he is helping him but bitches about him behind his back constantly.

The only problem most can come up with is they are annoyed at having to repeat themselves which shows how ignorant they are, not Gary, hell even David said last night he 'had to repeat himself 3 times'

Omg 3 times. Tragic.

[JoshBB]

Gary gets bullied, it's his fault. I hate your way of thinking.

[chuff me dizzy]

Don't forget the wife beating!

Exactly !!! what a lovely man he is :kiss:

[chuff me dizzy]

Gary gets bullied, it's his fault. I hate your way of thinking.

Please show proof of bullying ..........thanks

[chuff me dizzy]

It's not as simple as '13 to 1'.

Some of the housemates take time to talk to Gary, Edele, Frenchy and a couple of others come to mind but it's easier for them to join the pack.

Dee never had a problem with Gary until the task where she took the easy way out and named him for everything, then when he spoke to her about it that's when she started moaning about him, did you hear Dee say one bad thing about Gary before that? I heard moans about Leslie, not Gary though.

Ricci and Lauren follow the crowd but Lauren has said herself 'you just have to take Gary the way he is'

Stephanie has had a problem with him since the start.

And James well he likes to pretend he is helping him but bitches about him behind his back constantly.

The only problem most can come up with is they are annoyed at having to repeat themselves which shows how ignorant they are, not Gary, hell even David said last night he 'had to repeat himself 3 times'

Omg 3 times. Tragic.

Does HE make an effort with them? they all go to each other to chat, by what Ive seen the last couple of days hardly anyones talking to Leslie I cannot find a thread on that ?

[mary poppins]

Of course dee had a problem with Gary after the task, she tried to explain it was a task and they all had to do it but he didn't want to listen!..he kept butting in about the genius in him and his spirituality.

[Josy]

Does HE make an effort with them? they all go to each other to chat, by what Ive seen the last couple of days hardly anyones talking to Leslie I cannot find a thread on that ?

I can't believe I'm reading this. He makes constant effort.

Did you watch the LF Chuff? because I am actually gobsmacked that you would think the complete opposite of what is actually happening even if you do hate Gary.

[jessicadanielle]

I can't believe I'm reading this. He makes constant effort.

Did you watch the LF Chuff? because I am actually gobsmacked that you would think the complete opposite of what is actually happening even if you do hate Gary.

Same :shocked: can't believe anyone could disagree

[jaxie]

Does HE make an effort with them? they all go to each other to chat, by what Ive seen the last couple of days hardly anyones talking to Leslie I cannot find a thread on that ?

Yeah he makes an effort all the time to approach them. Then they accuse him of butting in or walk off. Then you accuse him of butting in and being rude. What is he supposed to do sit in a corner and rock?

[chuff me dizzy]

Yeah he makes an effort all the time to approach them. Then they accuse him of butting in or walk off. Then you accuse him of butting in and being rude. What is he supposed to do sit in a corner and rock?

He wants to try getting showered ,putting clean clothes on using deodorant ,maybe they would be more welcoming

[jaxie]

He wants to try getting showered ,putting clean clothes on using deodorant ,maybe they would be more welcoming

I can't see much point in talking to you/responding to you. You have your mind set and you are unwilling to open your view to anyone else's. You claim he makes no effort, when we point out he does you revert to 'he smells'. Ignoring the fact that he has been making every effort to shower after he was lectured about it.

[jessicadanielle]

I know that some Gary fans are a bit full on and won't accept he's ever done anything wrong, but Gary "haters" are just something else! No matter what he does he's criticised.

If he tries to make effort he's "barging in" on conversations and it's rude. If he doesn't (but I believe he does), it's his own fault for isolating himself, doesn't care about others, and is rude. It's unbelievable.

[Amy Jade]

Frenchy, Edele, Claire and Lauren seem fine with him.

The problem is the latter 3 are quieter so the nasty lot get more screen time.

[Liam-]

I know that some Gary fans are a bit full on and won't accept he's ever done anything wrong, but Gary "haters" are just something else! No matter what he does he's criticised.

If he tries to make effort he's "barging in" on conversations and it's rude. If he doesn't (but I believe he does), it's his own fault for isolating himself, doesn't care about others, and is rude. It's unbelievable.

Excuse me, don't tar everyone who dislikes Gary with the same brush please.. I might not like Gary or his attitude, but i can and have admitted, that he does try to include himself and a lot of the time, he does get included.. He doesn't isolate himself on purpose, but his attitude and his lack of hygiene does attribute to him being 'isolated'

[jessicadanielle]

Excuse me, don't tar everyone who dislikes Gary with the same brush please.. I might not like Gary or his attitude, but i can and have admitted, that he does try to include himself and a lot of the time, he does get included.. He doesn't isolate himself on purpose, but his attitude and his lack of hygiene does attribute to him being 'isolated'

Sorry, I should have said "some" Gary "haters"

[mary poppins]

Idont believe there are any"Gary haters"...they are Gary fans who can see his faults not just the other 13's faults

[chuff me dizzy]

I know that some Gary fans are a bit full on and won't accept he's ever done anything wrong, but Gary "haters" are just something else! No matter what he does he's criticised.

If he tries to make effort he's "barging in" on conversations and it's rude. If he doesn't (but I believe he does), it's his own fault for isolating himself, doesn't care about others, and is rude. It's unbelievable.

It was the same normal bb ,Ashliegh fans could see no wrong in her

[ThriceShy]

It doesn't take a lot of figuring out ,ALL the hm8s dislike Busey ,not the odd 1 or 2 ,but its all the others fault and not Garys ? oh come on !!

Why must it be Gary's fault just because all the housemates bully him?

Personally I think they are all jealous that he is the only true star in there and see him as an easy target.

I have seen many situations where a group turn against one person and it is always what they perceive as the weakest person.

I have no qualms about saying that Gary is being bullied. It is the worst case I have ever seen of it in BB. Worse than Shahbaz.

[Liam-]

Why must it be Gary's fault just because all the housemates bully him?

Personally I think they are all jealous that he is the only true star in there and see him as an easy target.

I have seen many situations where a group turn against one person and it is always what they perceive as the weakest person.

I have no qualms about saying that Gary is being bullied. It is the worst case I have ever seen of it in BB. Worse than Shahbaz.

Worse than Shahbaz? wow, that is some reaching.. shahbaz was genuinely bullied in there, Gary is not being bullied, he's just disliked :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

Worse than Shahbaz? wow, that is some reaching.. shahbaz was genuinely bullied in there, Gary is not being bullied, he's just disliked :laugh:

No, he's definitely being bullied, in my opinion. We are allowed to hold different ones, you know.

[Ace]

Its 10 sheep, james, leslie. george, dee, ricci, lauren, stephanie, kellie and now claire and eldele. I predict the sheep will get slaughtered one by one.

[chuff me dizzy]

No, he's definitely being bullied, in my opinion. We are allowed to hold different ones, you know.

Hes disliked and as far as i can see for good reasons ,he's getting his food,coffees handed to him,he getting help with shower(when he can be bothered) he's not washed a pot or cleaned anything ,bit of a cushy life isn't it ? poor little thing he's sure got it hard

[bots]

Frenchy and Gary are the only ones who have brought anything of any interest into the house, the rest are just boring also rans. People wonder why the rest don't like them? Pretty obvious really. People can hate on Gary and Frenchy till the cows come home, it won't make any difference to the result until 1 of the 11 starts behaving like an adult and brings something relevant and interesting to the table. Until then, they are nothing more than a bunch of losers

[Jules2]

Respect has to be earned its not a God given right

That is why Gary has such lot of respect, he has earnt it over and over again. I am willing to bet that there are many people grateful to him and his partner for their input in the charity they began. The time he has given to chat and to understand what disbled people go through. His artistic way with words and the selling of same to benefit their challenge. I always admire and respect genuine celebrities. I havent seen him brag or even mention these things but they are fact. What have the others done? I have no doubt that one or two may have their fingers in some pie or another but if they do then they should have more empathy, I feel so sorry for them.

[Liam-]

That is why Gary has such lot of respect, he has earnt it over and over again. I am willing to bet that there are many people grateful to him and his partner for their input in the charity they began. The time he has given to chat and to understand what disbled people go through. His artistic way with words and the selling of same to benefit their challenge. I always admire and respect genuine celebrities. I havent seen him brag or even mention these things but they are fact. What have the others done? I have no doubt that one or two may have their fingers in some pie or another but if they do then they should have more empathy, I feel so sorry for them.

Jimmy Saville was involved in any, many charities, whats your point?.. And before anyone jumps in with 'How dare you compare him to Jimmy Saville, that's disgusting you bully' I'm not comparing him to Jimmy Saville in any sort of way, just pointing out that just because someone does things for charity, it doesn't automatically make them a good person, or makes them deserve more respect than anyone else in the world.

[Jules2]

Good, im pleased for you. I disagree with you thank God. Racism and homophobia are not qualities I like to see rewarded.. in any way.

I didnt see any racism or homophobia, I saw a good HM and wanted him to win.

[ThriceShy]

Hes disliked and as far as i can see for good reasons ,he's getting his food,coffees handed to him,he getting help with shower(when he can be bothered) he's not washed a pot or cleaned anything ,bit of a cushy life isn't it ? poor little thing he's sure got it hard

He has an acquired brain injury.

http://synapse.org.au/get-the-facts/impact-of-acquired-brain-injury-on-the-individual-fact-sheet.aspx

Read all the effects it has. That is why he behaves the way he does. It even mentions having to be prompted to get a shower.

If you don't want Gary to win then slating him for his disability is the worst way to go about it. The ultimate irony is that he will win precisely because of ignorant people, who don't like him, getting the brain injury thing wrong.

[Jules2]

Jimmy Saville was involved in any, many charities, whats your point?.. And before anyone jumps in with 'How dare you compare him to Jimmy Saville, that's disgusting you bully' I'm not comparing him to Jimmy Saville in any sort of way, just pointing out that just because someone does things for charity, it doesn't automatically make them a good person, or makes them deserve more respect than anyone else in the world.

Ah I agree totally, many adored Saville and look how he turned out to be. I am only studying Gary at the moment though and what I see I admire totally, in my eyes he has earnt respect and that was the question. There are many stars who have really let us down.

[Josy]

No one even said Gary deserves more respect than anyone else....he is though entitled to the same respect as other people.

[ThriceShy]

Ah I agree totally, many adored Saville and look how he turned out to be. I am only studying Gary at the moment though and what I see I admire totally, in my eyes he has earnt respect and that was the question. There are many stars who have really let us down.

He is brilliant.

I have respect for him because he never lets the 13 bullies get to him. He doesn't react angrily and he forgives them.

It would take something spectacular for him not to win now. He would have to be shown being cruel to animals or something.

[Liam-]

No one even said Gary deserves more respect than anyone else....he is though entitled to the same respect as other people.

Once he starts respecting other people, I'm sure people will start respecting him.. i can see that he's trying to change, people would be blind to deny that, but it will be a slow process.

[Jules2]

Once he starts respecting other people, I'm sure people will start respecting him.. i can see that he's trying to change, people would be blind to deny that, but it will be a slow process.

The HMs do not matter it is the public which count. He is respected.

[ThriceShy]

Once he starts respecting other people, I'm sure people will start respecting him.. i can see that he's trying to change, people would be blind to deny that, but it will be a slow process.

What has he done that is disrespectful of other people?

[Josy]

Once he starts respecting other people, I'm sure people will start respecting him.. i can see that he's trying to change, people would be blind to deny that, but it will be a slow process.

He does respect other people and he deserves the same respect back, have you seen Gary ignorantly walking away from people mid conversation? have you seen him belittle and bitch behind others backs? have you seen him make aimed comments at another housemate?

Funnily enough I haven't seen him doing any of these things but I have seen others in there constantly do it to him yet HE is supposed to respect them but it's ok if they don't respect him.

Ridiculous.

[ThriceShy]

The HMs do not matter it is the public which count. He is respected.

Bingo.

The housemates must really be stupid to not realise that he becomes more popular the more they treat him like ****.

When Gary got cheered last night and got the most votes to save, and James got booed, did none of them think "Hold on a minute, perhaps we have this wrong. Perhaps we should re-evaluate gary and our treatment of him. Perhaps we should discuss it"?

It seems they didn't because they just went straight ahead and nominated him en masse and for apparently "brutal" reasons.

[Liam-]

He does respect other people and he deserves the same respect back, have you seen Gary ignorantly walking away from people mid conversation? have you seen him belittle and bitch behind others backs? have you seen him make aimed comments at another housemate?

Funnily enough I haven't seen him doing any of these things but I have seen others in there constantly do it to him yet HE is supposed to respect them but it's ok if they don't respect him.

Ridiculous.

It is my opinion that he doesn't respect anyone in there, it is also my opinion that he has been constantly rude to a number of people in the house, i fail to see how my opinion is 'ridiculous' but okay.

[ThriceShy]

It is my opinion that he doesn't respect anyone in there, it is also my opinion that he has been constantly rude to a number of people in the house, i fail to see how my opinion is 'ridiculous' but okay.

When has he been constantly rude to people? Could we have some examples?

[Beastie]

The celebrities have no patience. They are in the house for their own ego's. If this was in the outside world then they would have more time and patience.

[Vanessa]

He does respect other people and he deserves the same respect back, have you seen Gary ignorantly walking away from people mid conversation? have you seen him belittle and bitch behind others backs? have you seen him make aimed comments at another housemate?

Funnily enough I haven't seen him doing any of these things but I have seen others in there constantly do it to him yet HE is supposed to respect them but it's ok if they don't respect him.

Ridiculous.

:clap2:

[Josy]

It is my opinion that he doesn't respect anyone in there, it is also my opinion that he has been constantly rude to a number of people in the house, i fail to see how my opinion is 'ridiculous' but okay.

So do you have any examples of him being disrespectful?

He has been rude a couple of times not 'constantly' and even that doesn't make him disrespectful.

And just like you I also have an opinion and that is I think Gary out of everyone in that house being labelled disrespectful is ridiculous.

[Patricia4]

Chuff Ive just watched a clip and he's changed his clothes and he look's clean no maggots on Gary.

[chuff me dizzy]

That is why Gary has such lot of respect, he has earnt it over and over again. I am willing to bet that there are many people grateful to him and his partner for their input in the charity they began. The time he has given to chat and to understand what disbled people go through. His artistic way with words and the selling of same to benefit their challenge. I always admire and respect genuine celebrities. I havent seen him brag or even mention these things but they are fact. What have the others done? I have no doubt that one or two may have their fingers in some pie or another but if they do then they should have more empathy, I feel so sorry for them.

Im sick of seeing the "disabled"excuse thrown time and time again,he's in there as an EQUAL hm8,if he isn't he should leave

[chuff me dizzy]

Chuff Ive just watched a clip and he's changed his clothes and he look's clean no maggots on Gary.

Yes he's got a clean shirt on today ,but still same scruffy jacket

[Josy]

Im sick of seeing the "disabled"excuse thrown time and time again,he's in there as an EQUAL hm8,if he isn't he should leave

That is such an intolerant attitude tbh.

Plenty of housemates have been excused for things in the past it doesn't mean they shouldn't be there..

[ThriceShy]

Im sick of seeing the "disabled"excuse thrown time and time again,he's in there as an EQUAL hm8,if he isn't he should leave

What nonsense.

Disabled people have been in before and would obviously not be able to do some things that other people do.

Steve was in there (the one who was blown up by the IRA), Vern Troyer who is 2 feet tall was in there. Mikey was in there who was blind.

Criticising and ostracising gary for doing things related to his brain injury is the equivalent of bullying steve because he couldn't move round the house fast, or the equivalent of bullying Vern because he couldn't reach things.

[reece(:]

He does respect other people and he deserves the same respect back, have you seen Gary ignorantly walking away from people mid conversation? have you seen him belittle and bitch behind others backs? have you seen him make aimed comments at another housemate?

Funnily enough I haven't seen him doing any of these things but I have seen others in there constantly do it to him yet HE is supposed to respect them but it's ok if they don't respect him.

Ridiculous.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[FlippingEck]

Jimmy Saville was involved in any, many charities, whats your point?...

:shocked: :laugh:

[Liam-]

:shocked: :laugh:

You could have quoted the entire thing, now that's all people are going to see if they skip to the last page omg :laugh2:

[FlippingEck]

You could have quoted the entire thing, now that's all people are going to see if they skip to the last page omg :laugh2:

:laugh2: Sorry... I was too busy choking on my salt and vinegar crisps!!!!

[Brother Leon]

The fact Gary actually considers himself friends with pretty much all the HMs yet all of them bar Frenchy,Audley and Edele couldn't give two ****s about him says it all about the difference about how Gary treats people and how people treat him.

[jessicadanielle]

The fact Gary actually considers himself friends with pretty much all the HMs yet all of them bar Frenchy,Audley and Edele couldn't give two ****s about him says it all about the difference about how Gary treats people and how people treat him.

I know :( it made me so sad when he was asked who he was friends with in the
DR and he listed loads of people including Stephanie. He must be so confused when she makes snappy remarks at him if he thinks they're friends.

It also shows that Gary is happy to be friends with lots of people, where some other hms in there seem to like having somebody to hate.

[ThriceShy]

Yes he's got a clean shirt on today ,but still same scruffy jacket

Have you seen the state of Dee's clothes. They don't even fit. Her swathes of tattooed chav flesh still encroach.