Audley given a warning over Kellie nomination reasons

[Jarrod]

Audley has been given a warning over his reasons for nominating Kellie

Housemates nominated for the first time last night, face to face – and Audley has been given a warning over his reasons for nominating Kellie. Audley nominated Kellie and Leslie.

After the nominations had ended, Audley talked to Kellie to discuss his reasons for nominating her. Audley’s reasons for his nominations were that he thought she should leave as the world was ready for her as Kellie, he wants her to set up a fight for him and that he sometimes feels uncomfortable around her and that he didn’t want to share a bath with her.

Kellie got upset by what Audley said and eventually told him to pi** off, while Audley was trying to explain his reasons for nominating her. Audley replies and says that he is working through his discomfort.

After talking with Audley, Kellie visited the Diary Room to talk to Big Brother. Kellie tells Big Brother that Audley’s reasons for nominating her were stupid. ‘I don’t feel annoyed, I feel cheated.’ she says.

Later in the evening, Audley is called to the Diary Room and was given a warning about his reasons for nominating Kellie. Audley tried to explain his thinking and said that he has known Kellie as Frank for 20-30 years and that the change has shocked him and all the boxing fraternity.

He says: ‘I think anyone would be crazy to suggest that you just switch and make the adjustment, it’s going to take time.’

Celebrity Big Brother continues tonight at 9pm

http://bigbrother247.co.uk/day-11-audley-warned-over-kellie-nominations-reasons/

[HBB1508]

I can see where he's coming from but he should probably have kept it zipped in the BB house really.

[Jords]

I can understand the warning but Audley wasnt rude about it.

[Tarryn]

I don't get why he was warned. He never said anything nasty.
So most of the group can treat Gary like **** but Audley get's warned for this ?.
It's a mad world :inamood:

[reece(:]

:facepalm:

[FlippingEck]

See. This is why people lie.. honesty just gets you into trouble. It's total BS.

[Benjamin]

:bored:

[jessicadanielle]

I really don't think this should have merited a warning. I'd understand if it was someone who didn't know Kellie when she was Frank, because it would just sound transphobic, but Audley has to deal with someone he knew as a man becoming a woman. He was respectful in how he worded and stuff. I suppose it might have been more tactful of him to just not mention it and come up with another reason, but at least he was honest.

[Pete.]

Messy

[Pincho Paxton]

Hmm sharing a bath with Kellie, or sharing a bath with golden showergirl Lauren which is better? There's only one way to find out... Get Kellie to set up a FIGHT!

[sampvt]

Freekin ridiculous. That Freak Kellie needs certifying. This whole PC bulldust surrounding her journey and reason to change are fictional and just plain unbelievable. Now Audley gets warned for telling the truth and hurting her feelings and she gets off scot free after threatening to be violent towards 2 different housemates.

BB need to grow what Kellie no longer wants and man up. CH5 are making a mockery of the program and the HM's are now making a mockery of BB with their whinging and insistence that they be shielded from mockery.

Poor Kellie my arse, she is conning her way into the final with the poor me's and BB jump every time she calls foul.

[Tarryn]

I'm far more offended by Kellie using the sympathy card every time somebody upsets her than anything Audley said.

[Liam-]

I wonder if he would have been given a warning had Kellie not done her little 'pity me, you hate me because I'm a transgender' routine with him this morning? ridiculous warning if you ask me.

[Sophiee]

I don't think what audley was saying was offensive, I actually agree with him but it's never a good move to reveal your opinions on something like that in the house.

[FlippingEck]

If I hear Moany Maloney witter on about the "Journey" to being a woman, I think I will scream...

No-one is buying it ffs.. that wig tho... :laugh2:

[jessicadanielle]

I wonder if he would have been given a warning had Kellie done done her little 'pity me, you hate me because I'm a transgender' routine with him this morning? ridiculous warning if you ask me.

I thought this too...

Kellie gets arsey whenever somebody nominates/criticises her in a task so whatever Audley's reason had been for nomming her she'd have got all defensive and offended.

[FlippingEck]

I don't think what audley was saying was offensive, I actually agree with him but it's never a good move to reveal your opinions on something like that in the house.


Hi Sophiee... you're forgetting.. in BB honesty is offensive!!!!!

[Jarrod]

Before writing this article I actually had to email the press team to make sure this was a proper diary room warning and not a Housemate just warning him.

[Tarryn]

Dee should be given a warning for nominating George coz he has a high pitched voice then.
It's something he cannot change & a personal insult.
Double standards :nono:

[Ultimist]

I think Audley was respectful about the whole thing. The warning was totally unwarranted.

It's human nature that any major change around us takes an adjustment period. When we get to know someone, we eventually attach an "identity" to that person. We get used to seeing them a certain way, interacting with them in a certain way. If someone you know, and have known for a long time, was a man for decades, and is suddenly asking you to accept them as a woman... it takes a time to adjust. It's definitely not like a light switch. I felt that Audley adequately explained his reasoning... but evidently BB producers didn't think so.

I guess they're too worried about offending the public (people changing the channel is what they're really worried about). In this case, though, I think they got it wrong.

[zakman440]

:facepalm: yet Dee doesn't get a warning for nominating George because of his voice?

[Bluerang1]

goodness sakes

[FlippingEck]

:facepalm: yet Dee doesn't get a warning for nominating George because of his voice?

What a piss poor reason for nominating someone wasn't it...

Dee.. I nominate you for being an idle waste of space and looking/talking like a bloke..

[Brother Leon]

His reason was understandable. Of course he's going to take a while to get used to it seeing as he's known her for years as Frank. You nominate who you want to live with least and for him the whole awkward nature of it all means it's a reason for him to not want to live with Kellie.


I can just see BOTS now going PC overlord now regarding it too.

[Liam-]

I thought this too...

Kellie gets arsey whenever somebody nominates/criticises her in a task so whatever Audley's reason had been for nomming her she'd have got all defensive and offended.

Her self pitying is really getting on my nuts now, i can't cope with her anymore, i hope to god that she goes tomorrow.

[jaxie]

Dee should be given a warning for nominating George coz he has a high pitched voice then.
It's something he cannot change & a personal insult.
Double standards :nono:

I completely agree.

[ThriceShy]

So Audley isn't allowed to nominate someone he has known for 20 years due to his discomfort with their new gender.......but 9 housemates are allowed to "brutally" (in Dee's words) nominate a 70 year old disabled man for things that are a result of his disability.

[jaxie]

So Audley isn't allowed to nominate someone he has known for 20 years due to his discomfort with their new gender.......but 9 housemates are allowed to "brutally" (in Dee's words) nominate a 70 year old disabled man for things that are a result of his disability.

That too.

[jessicadanielle]

So Audley isn't allowed to nominate someone he has known for 20 years due to his discomfort with their new gender.......but 9 housemates are allowed to "brutally" (in Dee's words) nominate a 70 year old disabled man for things that are a result of his disability.

True! Anyone who nommed Gary for having to repeat themselves needs a warning if Audley needed one. Ridiculous.

[LukeB]

dee should get a warning to, her nomination was silly! channel 4 would never accept this

[warrenhill]

Audley is the only house mate to know Frank before the show so of course he would feel a little awkward around her now...

[Jake.]

I don't find his reasonings bad at all, fair play.. The bath comment just wasn't needed though, could have kept that to himself

[Crimson Dynamo]

more pandering to sexuality

[delta]

See. This is why people lie.. honesty just gets you into trouble. It's total BS.


That's one major flaw with the present format of BB.


Housemates are not allowed to be candid as they know that BB will use it against them at some point in the future. What we are seeing is a watered down version of events and happenings.

[bots]

So Audley isn't allowed to nominate someone he has known for 20 years due to his discomfort with their new gender.......but 9 housemates are allowed to "brutally" (in Dee's words) nominate a 70 year old disabled man for things that are a result of his disability.

Exactly, political correctness gone mad. Completely ridiculous

[JoshBB]

That wasn't discriminative or anything though, he said himself he is trying to adjust to it.

[Dollface]

This is just ridiculous. If Audley gets a warning for this, surely Dee deserves a warning aswell? Her nomination of George was just as personal :rant:

[poppsywoppsy]

I say let Kellie play up to her poor me stance because it is the quickest way to get rid of her.

As for Audley, the sympathy has reversed for him, he is the one wronged. Apart from Gary, Audley is my winner.

[waylander1973]

If his nom was allowed, then he should not be warned, Madness.

[JoshBB]

If his nom was allowed, then he should not be warned, Madness.

lmao this is what I was thinking tbh

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I personally think BB should have given Dee a warning over the reasons she nominated George. Whilst she was butching up to having a male voice, there was a sense of ridicule about the way she spoke of George's high pitched voice. At least Audley was valid in his nomination of Kellie and he spoke truthfully but the PC brigade decided otherwise. Audley knows Kellie better than anyone else in that house and I admire his honesty. After all she is going to, most likely at times, come up against a lot worst comments.

[NotAWannabe]

This is just ridiculous. If Audley gets a warning for this, surely Dee deserves a warning aswell? Her nomination of George was just as personal :rant:

Yes, we at the BB ( Brotherhood of Bats ) take great exception to Dee's reason, her dislike for George's squeaky voice.

[Mystic Mock]

How come Dee hasn't got into trouble for her reason to nominate George? At least Audley had a proper reason that a lot of people do struggle to come to terms with.

[Robodog]

Agree with pretty much every post on this thread, loads of good points.

The warning is total BS. Glad my fellow BB viewers can all see it, even if BB themselves cannot.

[jessicadanielle]

Agree with pretty much every post on this thread, loads of good points.

The warning is total BS. Glad my fellow BB viewers can all see it, even if BB themselves cannot.

Yeah this seems like one of the first topics we've all agreed on! :laugh: go team :dance:

[minty3]

I understand big brother had to do it but I don't think he ment it how some will have taken it

[Lstan]

I don't get why he was warned. He never said anything nasty.
So most of the group can treat Gary like **** but Audley get's warned for this ?.
It's a mad world :inamood:

maybe BB did it to put something in the show/get people rustled up?

[warrenhill]

Audley's reasons are his own and cant be questioned...

As for mocking a disability then the rest are doing that to Gary about his hearing..

[sarahbeau]

I think Audley was respectful about the whole thing. The warning was totally unwarranted.

It's human nature that any major change around us takes an adjustment period. When we get to know someone, we eventually attach an "identity" to that person. We get used to seeing them a certain way, interacting with them in a certain way. If someone you know, and have known for a long time, was a man for decades, and is suddenly asking you to accept them as a woman... it takes a time to adjust. It's definitely not like a light switch. I felt that Audley adequately explained his reasoning... but evidently BB producers didn't think so.

I guess they're too worried about offending the public (people changing the channel is what they're really worried about). In this case, though, I think they got it wrong.

I agree! I think Audley was very PC and not offensive at all with how he dealt with the situation. Maloney is over-sensitive and bloody annoying. If I was in his shoes, and had worked with a man for 20/30 years, who I then met in BB as a woman (but hadn't even began surgery..) I wouldn't want them in my bath. and I am openminded but like you say, everyone needs time to adjust. Warning was uncalled for.

[Northern Monkey]

Freekin ridiculous. That Freak Kellie needs certifying. This whole PC bulldust surrounding her journey and reason to change are fictional and just plain unbelievable. Now Audley gets warned for telling the truth and hurting her feelings and she gets off scot free after threatening to be violent towards 2 different housemates.

BB need to grow what Kellie no longer wants and man up. CH5 are making a mockery of the program and the HM's are now making a mockery of BB with their whinging and insistence that they be shielded from mockery.

Poor Kellie my arse, she is conning her way into the final with the poor me's and BB jump every time she calls foul.

:clap1: This for me.The warnings from channel 5 are an absolute joke.
They give absolute baseless unwarranted warnings out that should'nt be given that surpress people being honest and speaking freely and they ignore things that do deserve a warning and give housemates outside contact.C5 have destroyed BB!

[Pincho Paxton]

After watching the warning it looked like BB was just obeying Kellie, because they paid a lot of money for her.

[Brother Leon]

I think BB were trying to generate some pity votes for Kellie in order to save her, but the reverse efefct seems to have happened and Audley seems to have an increased level of support now.

[Robodog]

:clap1: This for me.The warnings from channel 5 are an absolute joke.
They give absolute baseless unwarranted warnings out that should'nt be given that surpress people being honest and speaking freely and they ignore things that do deserve a warning and give housemates outside contact.

Bang on Paul

Not only that - BB set up tasks, noms etc to deliberately ENCOURAGE HMs to be as honest and as negative about each other as possible!

BB won't let HMs just give a comedy reason for noms - they make each HM say something that dishes dirt. They demand negative truths from HMs.

Then they give warnings for it???

Audley handled himself with honesty, integrity and understanding over the whole Kellie nom thing.

As a result - he has gone up in my estimations - and Kellie and BB have gone down.

[sassysocks]

I'm far more offended by Kellie using the sympathy card every time somebody upsets her than anything Audley said.

Me too and I bet we aren't alone. Sick of all this cowardly PC nonsence. BB are as bad as the neurotic PC councils so concerned about being accused of racism, they turned a blind eye to the real crime of sexual abuse.

BB are terrified of being accused of discrimination, to the point they have become a joke, whilst the victimisation of Gary is ignored.

God forbid anyone upset Kellie's hysterical sensitivities, but it's ok to allow such behaviour towards a confused 70 year-old man.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im disgusted ,so Audley isn't allowed his opinion ?

[chuff me dizzy]

I think BB were trying to generate some pity votes for Kellie in order to save her, but the reverse efefct seems to have happened and Audley seems to have an increased level of support now.

:clap1:

[sassysocks]

Bang on Paul

Not only that - BB set up tasks, noms etc to deliberately ENCOURAGE HMs to be as honest and as negative about each other as possible!

BB won't let HMs just give a comedy reason for noms - they make each HM say something that dishes dirt. They demand negative truths from HMs.

Then they give warnings for it???

Audley handled himself with honesty, integrity and understanding over the whole Kellie nom thing.

As a result - he has gone up in my estimations - and Kellie and BB have gone down.

Spot on!

[Jules2]

Yes, we at the BB ( Brotherhood of Bats ) take great exception to Dee's reason, her dislike for George's squeaky voice.

Love it......

I have to admit that I am not keen on George but how would Dee have felt had someone said it was because her boobies get in the way and they cannot stand the sight of them.....

[chuff me dizzy]

After watching the warning it looked like BB was just obeying Kellie, because they paid a lot of money for her.

I agree

[Northern Monkey]

Bang on Paul

Not only that - BB set up tasks, noms etc to deliberately ENCOURAGE HMs to be as honest and as negative about each other as possible!

BB won't let HMs just give a comedy reason for noms - they make each HM say something that dishes dirt. They demand negative truths from HMs.

Then they give warnings for it???

Audley handled himself with honesty, integrity and understanding over the whole Kellie nom thing.

As a result - he has gone up in my estimations - and Kellie and BB have gone down.

Very true.

[rusticgal]

I can see where he's coming from but he should probably have kept it zipped in the BB house really.


Well he was being honest. The boxing world revolves around men full of testosterone...sometimes it's hard for a man to understand the want and the need for another man to become a woman.
Kellie has obviously battled with herself to make those changes...probably for many years but neither made that decision or move overnight. It takes time for other people that have known her for years as a man to suddenly adjust to that.
I don't think Audley meant to offend. When Audley entered the house I think he handled that awkwardness really well. Kellie and her many wigs...bunches etc sometimes looks weirdly bizarre. Kellie needs to understand it's not just her that needs understanding...her long term associates need equal understanding and time to adjust.

[Anothercat]

See. This is why people lie.. honesty just gets you into trouble. It's total BS.

100%

[delta]

What the fcuk?????????????????????????????????????????????? ??


How can they turn that into Audley being against Transgender? What a a pi55 take.

He found it hard to adjust to the change - pure and simple.


Christ- this program is a mega pi55 take.

Like someone else stated - so now he can't speak what's on his mind.

[delta]

Well he was being honest. The boxing world revolves around men full of testosterone...sometimes it's hard for a man to understand the want and the need for another man to become a woman.
Kellie has obviously battled with herself to make those changes...probably for many years but neither made that decision or move overnight. It takes time for other people that have known her for years as a man to suddenly adjust to that.
I don't think Audley meant to offend. When Audley entered the house I think he handled that awkwardness really well. Kellie and her many wigs...bunches etc sometimes looks weirdly bizarre. Kellie needs to understand it's not just her that needs understanding...her long term associates need equal understanding and time to adjust.


It's fcuk all to do with the male environment surrounding boxing.

No matter what area of life someone was in if they made such a drastic change anyone that knew them it would take them time to adjust to the 'new' person. It's only natural- it would have been more fake for Audley not to say anything.


My god, Judy James talks absolute pure 100% SH!T

[rusticgal]

It's fcuk all to do with the male environment surrounding boxing.

No matter what area of life someone was in if they made such a drastic change anyone that knew them it would take them time to adjust to the 'new' person. It's only natural- it would have been more fake for Audley not to say anything.


My god, Judy James talks absolute pure 100% SH!T

Well there's no need to swear....I agree with you... but you dismiss a point that is quite relevant coming from Audleys world of a male dominated profession. I am not saying it wouldn't need any less adjustment for anyone...but in a male dominated environment full of testosterone it must be more shocking..but let's not dwell on it.

[RodHull]

I really don't think this should have merited a warning. I'd understand if it was someone who didn't know Kellie when she was Frank, because it would just sound transphobic, but Audley has to deal with someone he knew as a man becoming a woman. He was respectful in how he worded and stuff. I suppose it might have been more tactful of him to just not mention it and come up with another reason, but at least he was honest.

The irony is Kellie accused him of not being man enough to be honest then didnt want to hear his honest reasons and reacted like a total diva. Which kinda justifies him not being totally honest to begin with, I mean really does he expect us to believe if Audley had been up front at the time that he'd have taken it well, he flies off the handle of minor stuff already let alone someone saying they are uncomfortable around him.

I never liked Audley in the real world as a boxer but honestly in the house I think hes been a model housemate in terms of behaviour. He was very respectful and totally did not deserve a warning. Its crap like this that makes people transphobic (or any minority phobic for that matter) total over reaction from BB, meanwhile people ragging on a deaf bloke for not hearing them repeatedly is fine apparently.

[delta]

Well there's no need to swear....I agree with you... but you dismiss a point that is quite relevant coming from Audleys world of a male dominated profession. I am not saying it wouldn't need any less adjustment for anyone...but in a male dominated environment full of testosterone it must be more shocking..but let's not dwell on it.


Not a swear word in there.


You are missing the point by a country mile. The change is that HUGE that it would take anyone no matter what professional field they came from to adjust . The male testerone, boxing world is just a 'tool' they are using to cosh Audley over the head with and Kellie was milking it to the max.


Last year they tried to make out that Evander was a gay basher, it was against his beliefs. Plain and simple.

[delta]

The irony is Kellie accused him of not being man enough to be honest then didnt want to hear his honest reasons and reacted like a total diva. Which kinda justifies him not being totally honest to begin with, I mean really does he expect us to believe if Audley had been up front at the time that he'd have taken it well, he flies off the handle of minor stuff already let alone someone saying they are uncomfortable around him.

I never liked Audley in the real world as a boxer but honestly in the house I think hes been a model housemate in terms of behaviour. He was very respectful and totally did not deserve a warning. Its crap like this that makes people transphobic (or any minority phobic for that matter) total over reaction from BB, meanwhile people ragging on a deaf bloke for not hearing them repeatedly is fine apparently.


Have you just seen the fall out from the next morning and Audley was trying to make up with Kellie.... and he said okay " Man to man.... I mean man to woman..." :laugh:

[RodHull]

Last year they tried to make out that Evander was a gay basher, it was against his beliefs. Plain and simple.

Hmmm not the same at all... Evander stated he thought ALL homesexuals were against nature and wrong in some way. Regardless of his belief that IS offensive to many people.

Audley not wanting to share a bath with one particular transgender person whom he knew as a man is VERY different.

[Pincho Paxton]

I liked Audley saying "I want to apologise man to man!" :joker:

[rusticgal]

Not a swear word in there.

.


Sorry....either you can't spell or 'Fcuk all to do with it' has another meaning :joker:

[Vicky.]

This warning was an absolute disgrace. Audleys reasons (both when nominating and explaining himself in the DR) were spot on and I do NOT care how liberal people say they are, they would be exactly the same if someone they had known for 20 odd years suddenly decided to change gender. It takes time to get used to.

[Turtle]

Look up 'Cultural Marxism' it's what's behind this political correctness frenzy. It's really big in places like Sweden, and now it's coming to the UK.

[Tarryn]

When BB were reading Audley the riot act they said that no HM should be discriminated against based on age or disability ?.
Hello.........Gary. It's such double standards.
I felt sorry for Audley. Kellie makes everything about her yet the HM's accuse Frenchy of the same thing.

[Tip]

Look up 'Cultural Marxism' it's what's behind this political correctness frenzy. It's really big in places like Sweden, and now it's coming to the UK.

Also check out the Frankfurt School conspiracy theory while you're at it to see both sides of the argument?

Talking of conspiracy theories, I get the feeling that BB might be concerned about getting their money's worth from Kelly - so they are being over-protective.

[sassysocks]

Look up 'Cultural Marxism' it's what's behind this political correctness frenzy. It's really big in places like Sweden, and now it's coming to the UK.

BB are obsessed with racism and homophobia and come down on anyone who dares to pass any comment they consider to be critical in any any way, but when it comes to ageism and sexism they conveniently ignore it.

Talk about pick and choose morality - only when it suits. News for BB - sexism and ageism are discrimination and are every bit as offensive to viewers as racism and homophobia.

How BB expect to be taken seriously when they get on their high horse about one, whilst ignoring the other is laughable.

[Beso]

Dee should be given a warning for nominating George coz he has a high pitched voice then.
It's something he cannot change & a personal insult.
Double standards :nono:

:shrug:

[Ninastar]

Just seen this now, I think it's totally ridiculous he got a warning. So much for freedom of speech. I think it was brave of him to say his honest opinion. I know he will have offended Kelly, but you can't make people accept you by force.

[Fosse]

Kellie will be out soon enough so none of it will really matter.

[rubymoo]

I actually agreed with what Audley said...it's not about being phobic, he's know Kellie as Frank for years and held him in high regard, so to be faced with Frank who is now Kellie is going to take some getting used to, stupid of BB to not understand this and make an issue when there is no issue, i'm getting so sick of the pc brigade!

[Alf]

This is just ridiculous. If Audley gets a warning for this, surely Dee deserves a warning aswell? Her nomination of George was just as personal :rant:
What you have to relise is that we're not all equal, I've said it before and I'll say it again, when it comes to predjudices there is a hierarchy., All down to the looney lefty P.C extremists.

They're dangerous people, and they don't even relise it. We'll never get equality while these looneys have a voice.

[Fosse]

Audley is a gentleman as far as I'm concerned - what was said was blown up out of proportion by BB.

[beardedbloke]

Bang on Paul

Not only that - BB set up tasks, noms etc to deliberately ENCOURAGE HMs to be as honest and as negative about each other as possible!

BB won't let HMs just give a comedy reason for noms - they make each HM say something that dishes dirt. They demand negative truths from HMs.

Then they give warnings for it???

Audley handled himself with honesty, integrity and understanding over the whole Kellie nom thing.

As a result - he has gone up in my estimations - and Kellie and BB have gone down.

my feelings exactly robodog. Audley to win!!