James & Audley Argument

[Josy]

They have an argument regarding the task from earlier, can't post the youtube vid because it isn't uploaded yet..

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-18-james-and-audley-get-brutal-each-other

[reece(:]

Hope Audley slays him again

[the truth]

can be send james and dee on some old slave ship onto some uninhabited island in the pacific ocean, to live , fight and bitch forever far far away from civilization....even there shed be claining giros and james would be the brad pitt of twatness

[bots]

wow the gloves are coming off for sure, James biggest problem is that he always gets way to personal in his comments. Its perfectly possible to have and win an argument without stooping to that.

[the truth]

wow the gloves are coming off for sure, James biggest problem is that he always gets way to personal in his comments. Its perfectly possible to have and win an argument without stooping to that.

thats just 1 of his many many many problems....he lacks any humour whatsoever, no comic timing, no self deprecation, no perception, no humility, no personal growth, no understanding of how others perceive him.......etc

[reece(:]

"Good for nothing" good analysis :clap1:

[CaudleHalbard]

Hope Audley slays him again


Yeah right! :joker:

Actually, poor inarticulate Audley had no chance in that argument!

[bots]

Yeah right! :joker:

Actually, poor inarticulate Audley had no chance in that argument!

if you mean Audley had no intention of descending to James level, good on him. There were plenty of personal insults Audley could have used, he chose not to and quite right too.

[LukeB]

Yes more james

[Josy]

Yeah right! :joker:

Actually, poor inarticulate Audley had no chance in that argument!

James loses every argument the minute he resorts to personal insults.

[Kizzy]

What is the problem james has with audley?... I hope frenchy took those scissors with her as james is desperate to remove auds nads.

[Marsh.]

What is the problem james has with audley?... I hope frenchy took those scissors with her as james is desperate to remove auds nads.

And hide them up his arse.

[Brother Leon]

"If you were more like me you would have won more fights"

"I won 31, I'm ok"

-James shuts up at last-

:worship:

[puzzled]

Wow. Audley really got to James--James' face got redder and redder. Yay, Audley

[Marsh.]

How many series of Strictly did James win? :hehe:

[Ace]

james wants to prove himself because he is limited mentally and socially immature. He uses childish insults about a sport thats alien to him. He knows he can't best Audley mentally or physically, so he makes a lot of noise playing to the crowd.

[tanussa]

personally thought james came out on top, but lets face it neither wud let go

[Ellen]

thats just 1 of his many many many problems....he lacks any humour whatsoever, no comic timing, no self deprecation, no perception, no humility, no personal growth, no understanding of how others perceive him.......etc

I think he does understand how others perceive him but he doesnt care what anyone thinks because he has to be proven right and will die trying. He says 'i have been like this my whole life and i am not going to change' says it all. He knows what he is doing and he really enjoys it.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

personally thought james came out on top, but lets face it neither wud let go

I thought exactly the same

[Patricia4]

James does'nt get any better still a nasty piece of work.

[calyman]

I thought exactly the same
I thought James had the fixed stare of desperation about him, as well as a red and sweating face. He was trying too hard and succeeded in showing himself up (again).

[delta]

My goodness the guy is hideous as the above poster says he loses the debate or argument when he goes into Mr Angry mode. which lurks just under that veneer of slime.

He clearly doesn't like confrontation-even though he seems to outwardly revel in it or take to personal criticism of any kind. And anyone the has to validate his own self worth by stating " I am good" - " or I am intelligent" etc and no one else says that about them is actually is full of low esteem.

The worst thing about him his own self valuation of himself and how he see himself against how the outside world sees him.

Notice also how George was sucking up to him and no doubt Stephanie would have been gurning in the back ground.

[Gillian-73]

James, he can't help but get personal, the fool.

[sampvt]

All James is trying to do is forge himself a ticket as a highly controversial figure and he thinks there will be a place for him in the media later. He has seen the brutal judges on todays modern panels and wants one of those spaces. He tries to provoke people into being nasty but sadly with Audley, he failed as Audley knows he could squash him like a bug.

George and Steph are clinging onto anything that makes them current and the desperation seems to be creeping into the house as the winning line looms larger by the day. Audley owned james and that story is not yet over. James wants to provoke him into some kind of physical action but it wont work.

[poppsywoppsy]

My goodness the guy is hideous as the above poster says he loses the debate or argument when he goes into Mr Angry mode. which lurks just under that veneer of slime.

He clearly doesn't like confrontation-even though he seems to outwardly revel in it or take to personal criticism of any kind. And anyone the has to validate his own self worth by stating " I am good" - " or I am intelligent" etc and no one else says that about them is actually is full of low esteem.

The worst thing about him his own self valuation of himself and how he see himself against how the outside world sees him.

Notice also how George was sucking up to him and no doubt Stephanie would have been gurning in the back ground.

I agree with your post, just watched their argument and also James feedback clip as well. He gets angry when it sinks in, his face turns redder and redder, the veins start showing on his neck and he talks over people, the very same trait he slated Gary for.

Yet he is saying very different things to what his composure shows, a dead giveaway.

Poor Ola having to put up with him, he is now using her as a get out excuse as he says he is going out to her, she is like a prize possession to him, something to be envied for, to make him look better. Although she has shown several of James big gob traits this week in the press but of course, she is James mouthpiece now he has had the sack from SCD. When it restarts without him is when it will hit home for James, not that he will admit it for the world. I think he is very insecure and easily riled at this time because of his unsecure future after BB.

[poppsywoppsy]

personally thought james came out on top, but lets face it neither wud let go

James does come out on top for the argument but loses so much credibility because he stoops so low in winning it.

Why doesn't Audley come back with his Olympic Gold medal achievement when James mentions his boxing failures because that is something that James cannot deny or compete with. Audley is too nice to brag in this way again, he did say it once under provocation but I would use it and be proud because an Olympic gold is the pinnacle of sporting achievement and James would be foolish to mock it.

I don't think James will leave, because he is a bit like Helen, detestable but it is what some BB viewers class as entertainment, so he will get their votes whilst Edelle and other more boring people won't.

[jaxie]

Um, so Ricci hasn't washed his tackle and nads for 2 weeks because he always showers in his pant and shorts and people think Gary has a hygiene problem? Ew Ricci must be all cheesy.

James arguments are childish and self righteous, you can't win any argument like that.

[delta]

James does come out on top for the argument but loses so much credibility because he stoops so low in winning it.

Why doesn't Audley come back with his Olympic Gold medal achievement when James mentions his boxing failures because that is something that James cannot deny or compete with. Audley is too nice to brag in this way again, he did say it once under provocation but I would use it and be proud because an Olympic gold is the pinnacle of sporting achievement and James would be foolish to mock it.

I don't think James will leave, because he is a bit like Helen, detestable but it is what some BB viewers class as entertainment, so he will get their votes whilst Edelle and other more boring people won't.


How on earth do you come to that verdict? As Gary said there are no winners in arguments.

What you do see is who conducted themselves the best the rest is subjective. Audley stayed calm, whilst Bully Elliot was playing to his little audience, reminded of the proverbial swan, trying to stay serene on the surface and panicking like hell just below it. His neck muscles were bulging, veins were protruding from his forehead and he was moments away from spontaneous combustion. Why does Audley need to throw the 'big I am " around we all know he's an Olympic Gold Medal winner along with likes of Lewis, Ali, Frazier and Stephenson , now that takes some achieving, even if his professional career was left a little bit wanting. He made his brass and as he says, he won 31 of them.

Audly isn't wired to be nasty enough but he could have really wound up the Bully in the garden dome and I know what I would have said when that phone was ringing where they both had the opportunity to call home with a 5 minute phone call and I guarantee Bully Elliot would have left there incandescent and ready to leave the house either that he would have been totally humiliated and would have been left totally tarnished and wiped out it would have effected the rest of his stay in there.:laugh:

[jessicadanielle]

Some really good posts here regarding James's behaviour. He oozes low self esteem, immaturity, and at times low intelligence with the way he attacks people personally to try to "win" an argument. It's really pathetic, especially in front of so many other housemates. I'd hope some of them picked up on it too.

Another thing, George actually made me laugh at the end when he lightened the atmosphere with his "yo momma" joke, we need people who make a joke of things when you've got people with James's anger walking about the house. Though I did notice he said it when Audley finally shut James up and he looked embarrassed with the "I've won 31 times and I'm ok with that" :suspect:

[Lostie!]

"If you were more like me you would have won more fights"

"I won 31, I'm ok"

-James shuts up at last-

:worship:

Haven't seen the video yet, did James say that? He's like a ****ing broken record, when he can't think of anything to say he falls back on bringing up any fight that Audley might have lost.

People should just bring up every series of Strictly James didn't win. I wonder how the Brad Pitt of dancing would like that. Then again, no doubt it'd be the fault of the celebrity or the voters.

[delta]

Haven't seen the video yet, did James say that? He's like a ****ing broken record, when he can't think of anything to say he falls back on bringing up any fight that Audley might have lost.

People should just bring up every series of Strictly James didn't win. I wonder how the Brad Pitt of dancing would like that. Then again, no doubt it'd be the fault of the celebrity or the voters.


He could have brought up the fact that he was jobless after being kicked off strictly by some 70 year old gentlemen.

[the truth]

after this surely james whatshisface will nver darken our tv sets again........whata boring deluded sad twat

[ChrisTheDub]

I have put a fiver on Audley@8-1, I really think he will win this. the most sincere and real person in the house and he is an absolute gentleman.

[ChrisTheDub]

Some really good posts here regarding James's behaviour. He oozes low self esteem, immaturity, and at times low intelligence with the way he attacks people personally to try to "win" an argument. It's really pathetic, especially in front of so many other housemates. I'd hope some of them picked up on it too.

Another thing, George actually made me laugh at the end when he lightened the atmosphere with his "yo momma" joke, we need people who make a joke of things when you've got people with James's anger walking about the house. Though I did notice he said it when Audley finally shut James up and he looked embarrassed with the "I've won 31 times and I'm ok with that" :suspect:

He is not a bad person but he does seem to take himself waaay too serious. I agree with you that it could be self esteem issue - this craving for validation and respect. He needs to pipe down a little because his constant moralizing and holier that thou attitude can be very annoying. I can't stand Kellie but she made a good point about him mouthing off about how he was going to give his wife a good seeing to when he got out. That was double standards on his part and immature to say the least.

[arista]

James won't back down
you have to shoot in the head to stop him

[jet]

I have put a fiver on Audley@8-1, I really think he will win this. the most sincere and real person in the house and he is an absolute gentleman.

He's nice enough but he's so wooden and boring. :sleep:

[erinp5]

Haven't seen the video yet, did James say that? He's like a ****ing broken record, when he can't think of anything to say he falls back on bringing up any fight that Audley might have lost.

People should just bring up every series of Strictly James didn't win. I wonder how the Brad Pitt of dancing would like that. Then again, no doubt it'd be the fault of the celebrity or the voters.

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[Pincho Paxton]

When James is arguing he looks too calm, separated from his words. That makes him hard to read, and hard to argue against. His words are nasty, but his emotions look relaxed. It's like his hobby is the sport of causing emotional pain on others.

[tanussa]

I like james and he has added to the show 100% more than audley, I do like audley but he doesnt do much. audley appeared to start that disagreement and then they both kept on, wanting to get the better of each other. isnt that quite common in an argument, we all want to come out on top

[rusticgal]

One thing I admired about Frenchys departure is that she is big and honest enough to say she wanted to stay and win....
James and the old chestnut 'I am happy to go and see my wife and kids'....yes course you do James but you would MUCH rather stay and win.
'I have nothing more to prove'....no you are right there...you have proved what a complete dick you really are...
He is a nasty bit of work and some of the spiteful nasty taunts he comes out with to try and get the better of someone.
Audrey has done so well to hold it together....James looked like he wanted to cry at the end..:joker:

Anyway...who did James throw under the bus???

[delta]

One thing I admired about Frenchys departure is that she is big and honest enough to say she wanted to stay and win....
James and the old chestnut 'I am happy to go and see my wife and kids'....yes course you do James but you would MUCH rather stay and win.
'I have nothing more to prove'....no you are right there...you have proved what a complete dick you really are...
He is a nasty bit of work and some of the spiteful nasty taunts he comes out with to try and get the better of someone.
Audrey has done so well to hold it together....James looked like he wanted to cry at the end..:joker:

Anyway...who did James throw under the bus???


Not sure: but he wanted to throw Darren Gough under it but that's another story :laugh::laugh:

[Angelika]

I hope James goes out with Stephnie tonight!

[rubymoo]

I've never wanted to punch someone as much as I want to punch James.

He's so nasty and and vicious with his tongue, I swear he could kill someone with one flick of his tongue, and smile as he does it before consuming them!

I don't know how Audley keeps his hands from punching the life out of him!

[alex_front2]

thats just 1 of his many many many problems....he lacks any humour whatsoever, no comic timing, no self deprecation, no perception, no humility, no personal growth, no understanding of how others perceive him.......etc

Why do people always need humility and self depreciation?

[kirklancaster]

can be send james and dee on some old slave ship onto some uninhabited island in the pacific ocean, to live , fight and bitch forever far far away from civilization....even there shed be claining giros and james would be the brad pitt of twatness

LMAO:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

[kirklancaster]

I've never wanted to punch someone as much as I want to punch James.

He's so nasty and and vicious with his tongue, I swear he could kill someone with one flick of his tongue, and smile as he does it before consuming them!

I don't know how Audley keeps his hands from punching the life out of him!

Boxers are among the most disciplined and mature sports people. They tend not to be bullies and take advantage of their fighting prowess - even when called out in pubs, restaurants and clubs by yobs who are trying to make a name for themselves. What's happening in the house is just an example of this. Audley has not fulfilled his potential as a boxer, but would still be far too much for nobhead James to handle in a fight - ring or street. James reminds me of my younger brother when we were kids. He only argued when my dad was around, knowing I wasn't going to retaliate. Later, inside our bedroom, he would always apologise and suck up to me. On reflection, that's a poor analogy - my 7 year old brother was a lot more mature than James - and could probably fight better too. :cheer2:

[Cal.]

When James is arguing he looks too calm, separated from his words. That makes him hard to read, and hard to argue against. His words are nasty, but his emotions look relaxed. It's like his hobby is the sport of causing emotional pain on others.

he was the same in strictly, he argued with any judge who said he wasn't great