View Full Version : POLL: Does BB need a break
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 12:47 PM
And im not just talking a year then a rebrand im talking being taken off the air for a good 5 years.
I think it needs to happen as the interest is just going now theres only so much of the same format people can watch.
People need time to forget the overdone secret missions and twists which aren't twists anymore they are just the format. The original format would actually be a twist these days.
Hopefully in that time Marcus Bentley could develop some sort of disease which changed his voice from annoying Geordie to sultry goddess.
I know as die hard fans I find it hard to let go but for the good of the show I think we really need to let it disappear for a good while then a relaunch in 5 years hopefully on a bigger channel and back to the original format could be huge.
Marsh.
05-09-2014, 12:50 PM
If only it was given a break originally and brought back next year.
It would be so exciting.
JohnnyBB
05-09-2014, 12:50 PM
No just needs one new producer to take risks, or axe it for utopia.
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 12:51 PM
No but i think they need to get back to basics a bit more and also not have CBB running straight after the Civilian series, On e CBB a year is plenty
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 12:52 PM
If only it was given a break originally and brought back next year.
It would be so exciting.
Imagine the hype!
Plus its gone so quick, 5 years isn't a lifetime.
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
JohnnyBB
05-09-2014, 12:54 PM
Imagine the hype!
Plus its gone so quick, 5 years isn't a lifetime.
There would have been no hype it would have launched with 5 million and died down to what the raitings are now if it was rested or not.
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 12:54 PM
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
:worship:
andybigbro
05-09-2014, 12:55 PM
No, it just needs to listen to the real fans more and go back to basics and have 1 civilian and 1 celeb series a year.
I would hate a year with no BB D:
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 12:55 PM
No but i think they need to get back to basics a bit more and also not have CBB running straight after the Civilian series, On e CBB a year is plenty
But its in a rut how can they go back to basics right now? Its not going to happen the producers are not in the right mind frame for some reason.
They feel they need to top every series with constant manipulation.
Everyone there needs time to truly bring BB back to basics.
Imagine 5 years from now BB launched on ITV with a simple advert "14 housemates, 75 days and you watch their every move, Big Brother is coming!".
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 12:56 PM
But its ia rut how can they go back to basics right now? Its not going to happen the producers are not in the right mind frame for some reason.
They feel they need to top every series with constant manipulation.
Everyone there needs time to truly bring BB back to basics.
Imagine 5 years from now BB launched on ITV with a simple advert "14 housemates, 75 days and you watch their every move, Big Brother is coming!".
Well every year they have a theme, they could just use Back to Basics as the theme to test the waters
Well every year they have a theme, they could just use Back to Basics as the theme to test the waters
This is what I posted in the feedback survey (I'm hoping they actually read what I commented because it was A LOT haha)
That if they insist on a theme next year please make it a 'back to basics' one because people are sick of the constant themes, manipulations and so on.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 12:58 PM
There would have been no hype it would have launched with 5 million and died down to what the raitings are now if it was rested or not.
As apposed to a launch of 2.2 million.
You cant really say it would drop down to 1.2 in overnights which BB15 was getting.
Seriously without any sort of break BB16 is in risk of most highlights being below 1 million every night.
LukeB
05-09-2014, 01:00 PM
nope i want more
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 01:00 PM
This is what I posted in the feedback survey (I'm hoping they actually read what I commented because it was A LOT haha)
That if they insist on a theme next year please make it a 'back to basics' one because people are sick of the constant themes, manipulations and so on.
Ah great minds Josy :laugh: Fingers crossed they listen, seems to be what a whole lot of fans want
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 01:00 PM
Well every year they have a theme, they could just use Back to Basics as the theme to test the waters
Its to late to be testing the waters its starting to fall flat on its arse.
Its sad to see my fav show suffering quality and ratings wise.
Like any relationship sometimes we all need a break to keep that spark lol im going to be so relieved come next Friday when CBB is over.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 01:03 PM
To the people who voted to say BB15 showed BB still has life erm.....It was the lowest rated BB ever as is this CBB and the critical reception is the same...Poor.
I cant see how people cant recognise that this year has failed.
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 01:06 PM
Its to late to be testing the waters its starting to fall flat on its arse.
Its sad to see my fav show suffering quality and ratings wise.
Like any relationship sometimes we all need a break to keep that spark lol im going to be so relieved come next Friday when CBB is over.
Are you breaking up with me Daniel? :hehe:
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 01:08 PM
Are you breaking up with me Daniel? :hehe:
No its not a break up, I just need time to figure my head out. I think the time apart will be good for both of us.
Its not you its me.
Niamh.
05-09-2014, 01:13 PM
No its not a break up, I just need time to figure my head out. I think the time apart will be good for both of us.
Its not you its me.
http://i.imgur.com/hODwjuI.jpg
Withano
05-09-2014, 01:56 PM
It doesn't need a break, it needs a reset button
Pincho Paxton
05-09-2014, 01:58 PM
It doesn't need a break, it needs some new creative people working on it.
Bluerang1
05-09-2014, 02:03 PM
I'm surprised Daniel (a true BB fan) made this thread but a lot of people share this sentiment. A break woud be good. Another reason people don't watch it is that they don't want to devote every summer to a series that often lets them down. Maybe once every two years or so but a break is much needed.
Nick.
05-09-2014, 02:27 PM
I think a break for a year or so then have a new series with back to basics would be a good ideas.
zakman440
05-09-2014, 02:32 PM
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
:clap1: agree with everything that's posted.
Ross.
05-09-2014, 03:30 PM
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
Perfect :clap1:
No, it just needs to axe the CBB Summer version
Shaun
05-09-2014, 03:34 PM
It just needs to have each series on only once a year. Two CBBs kills the "it's coming to an end!" feeling about normal BB and kills the likelihood of any enjoyment of the summer CBB.
waterhog
05-09-2014, 03:53 PM
bb is my life.
Tarryn
05-09-2014, 04:32 PM
At the moment I'm watching this series of CBB, plus BBAUS from 2012, BBUSA 2014 & eagerly waiting for this years BBAUS.
So no, GIVE ME MORE !!!!!!!!!!
Do I have a problem.......................
BIRDisTHEword
05-09-2014, 05:10 PM
They should've given it a break after it finished on Channel 4, the hype for the return would've been massive. I think if they gave it a break now people wouldn't care about the return. Having said that though a lot of people don't realise it's still on so if they did a big advert campaign in a few years about it returning then maybe people would think it hadn't been on since 2010.
Marsh.
05-09-2014, 05:19 PM
A break sounds good for me as a viewer because I'm kind of bored of it, especially with two CBBs a year. But, yeah, a new production team is probably most vital.
joeysteele
05-09-2014, 05:22 PM
No, no breaks in my view, it would be too easy then to just not bring it back.
It still has a strong core of viewers and it is picking up new viewers too I have found.
What it does need is a totally new production team and less BB interference in the process of the housemates time in the house with BB more just overseeing as to behaviour and tasks.
The CBB series this year have been the better of the 3 series this time, for me BB itself was ruined by BB not the housemates.
So no for me as to a break.
delta
05-09-2014, 05:23 PM
I think what is spoiling it is the interference from BB and all the silly little stunts it pulls trying to gain larger { in their minds} viewer interest.
Where as it just alienates a lot would be regular watchers.
I voted option 4 { Crack on and loving it} But it could be improved.
I would like to see less 'grassing' up of housemates. There is no way they will be candid in the diary room about fellow guests if they know that at some time in the future know it's going to be used against them.
zakman440
05-09-2014, 05:24 PM
At least if they do put it on a break, they need to show other series from around the world like BBAU or Big Brother Canada.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 05:25 PM
Just a question.
Out of the 24 of you who opted for option 3/4 when did you start watching Big Brother?
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 05:26 PM
At least if they do put it on a break, they need to show other series from around the world like BBAU or Big Brother Canada.
That totally defeats the purpose of giving the show a break for time to regenerate itself and kind of leave the public forum to regain a taste for it.
Pincho Paxton
05-09-2014, 05:27 PM
Just a question.
Out of the 24 of you who opted for option 3/4 when did you start watching Big Brother?
I watched the very first series from half way through. I started watching when someone told me that they were naked, and painting on the walls.
warrenhill
05-09-2014, 05:39 PM
Have to agree......it just needs to go back to the way it was when C4 had it.
They have played around too much and its lost its originality ....
Pete.
05-09-2014, 05:43 PM
Not at all. However, the CBB in Summer needs to be scrapped
Why can't you just say in the poll
Yes
No
No, but it needs improving
The questions are a bit ott
abhorson
05-09-2014, 06:34 PM
Broken mouth was not on the list.
sungrass
05-09-2014, 07:38 PM
To the people who voted to say BB15 showed BB still has life erm.....It was the lowest rated BB ever as is this CBB and the critical reception is the same...Poor.
I cant see how people cant recognise that this year has failed.
Since bb started in 2000 we now have freeview, netflix, amazon prime (lovefilm), and sky. Taking ratings from 5 potential channels to God knows how many.
No programme consistently gets 5 million viewers anymore.
Everyone has said give it a try with back to basics next summer, 1 Million viewers is still a lot more ratings than other shows on C5 get!! its a great format for advertisers to reach their key demographic which is 15-35 year olds.
and this year was the world cup which didnt help ratings and a miserable house.
the CBB in Jan was brilliant.
All the old soaps no longer pull in the viewers - x factor etc, all are loosing viewers- the way we watch television has changed, BB is also going to change - to expect it to stay the same as it was in 2000 is unrealistic
sungrass
05-09-2014, 07:39 PM
I forgot bt television and virgin television meaning people have far more choice in what to watch.
uniquedude
05-09-2014, 09:06 PM
It's just this years bb that makes me think this, the irony is they tried to copy bb14 with these almost famous people and it totally flopped.
C5 have proven they can make a top notch bb just as they have with bb14/cbb13, they need to cast really good people no agents.
1 bb
1 Cbb
Back to basics
Inventive tasks
Northern Monkey
05-09-2014, 09:15 PM
Yeah,It's a parody of itself,A break is needed.It's not BB anymore.
CBB summer needs scrapping, and they need better diversity and real NOMS in a civilian series.
Natalie.
05-09-2014, 09:21 PM
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
couldn't have said it better
ruiphillips
05-09-2014, 09:28 PM
It's peaked. Time to lay it to rest.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 09:31 PM
Why can't you just say in the poll
Yes
No
No, but it needs improving
The questions are a bit ott
Because im a twat
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 09:33 PM
Since bb started in 2000 we now have freeview, netflix, amazon prime (lovefilm), and sky. Taking ratings from 5 potential channels to God knows how many.
No programme consistently gets 5 million viewers anymore.
Everyone has said give it a try with back to basics next summer, 1 Million viewers is still a lot more ratings than other shows on C5 get!! its a great format for advertisers to reach their key demographic which is 15-35 year olds.
and this year was the world cup which didnt help ratings and a miserable house.
the CBB in Jan was brilliant.
All the old soaps no longer pull in the viewers - x factor etc, all are loosing viewers- the way we watch television has changed, BB is also going to change - to expect it to stay the same as it was in 2000 is unrealistic
Ive never denied that.
Im very aware of viewer habits im not stuck in 2000 im talking about the quality of the show which in turn is affecting the amount of people watching (officially on demand aswell).
Forgetmenot
05-09-2014, 09:38 PM
No I really don't think it does.
What it does need is stripping right back to the original format , decent mix of housemates (not half famous/well known wannabes), no twists upon twists upon twists, basic normal nominations etc
One CBB and one Normal BB per year because the extra CBB is over kill.
Get the task team to come up with tasks like we used to have that take some actual effort.
No outside contact and serious consequences for rule breaks such as nomination talk.
And the most important obvious one, the main thing that made BB so much different and better than every other reality show... LIVE FEED.
Well said, so agree!
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 10:03 PM
Polls levelling out a bit now after tonights eviction.
People not enjoy the show? lol The "give it a break" option had like 3 votes before the eviction started.
mrmattybeck1
05-09-2014, 10:14 PM
And im not just talking a year then a rebrand im talking being taken off the air for a good 5 years.
I think it needs to happen as the interest is just going now theres only so much of the same format people can watch.
People need time to forget the overdone secret missions and twists which aren't twists anymore they are just the format. The original format would actually be a twist these days.
Hopefully in that time Marcus Bentley could develop some sort of disease which changed his voice from annoying Geordie to sultry goddess.
I know as die hard fans I find it hard to let go but for the good of the show I think we really need to let it disappear for a good while then a relaunch in 5 years hopefully on a bigger channel and back to the original format could be huge.
Not a chance
Absorption
05-09-2014, 10:33 PM
Daniel, maybe you should give it a break for five years and then your viewing experience would be refreshed.
I appreciate that this slightly misses the crux of your underlying point but I think, as Niamh and Josy said, it's the format that needs an overhaul rather than the show being banished for half a decade.
There's too much (blatant) manipulation from the producers and that was not the point of the original show; if they let it (and the HMs) fester in their own juices for two or three months, it would be most of the revitalising that it needed.
MojoNixon
05-09-2014, 10:35 PM
And im not just talking a year then a rebrand im talking being taken off the air for a good 5 years.
I think it needs to happen as the interest is just going now theres only so much of the same format people can watch.
People need time to forget the overdone secret missions and twists which aren't twists anymore they are just the format. The original format would actually be a twist these days.
Hopefully in that time Marcus Bentley could develop some sort of disease which changed his voice from annoying Geordie to sultry goddess.
I know as die hard fans I find it hard to let go but for the good of the show I think we really need to let it disappear for a good while then a relaunch in 5 years hopefully on a bigger channel and back to the original format could be huge.
Why? Because Gary gonna win?? :joker::joker::joker:
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 10:45 PM
Why? Because Gary gonna win?? :joker::joker::joker:
Erm I voted for Gary to stay tonight.
Gary is my favourite.
Your actually living in your own avid merion fandom world.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 10:46 PM
Daniel, maybe you should give it a break for five years and then your viewing experience would be refreshed.
I appreciate that this slightly misses the crux of your underlying point but I think, as Niamh and Josy said, it's the format that needs an overhaul rather than the show being banished for half a decade.
There's too much (blatant) manipulation from the producers and that was not the point of the original show; if they let it (and the HMs) fester in their own juices for two or three months, it would be most of the revitalising that it needed.
How will my viewing experience be refreshed when BB is really failing production wise at the moment. If it carries on like this then when I switch on in 5 years BB will be long gone.
Im thinking for the good of the show, I love Big Brother im an absolute dork when it comes to BB and don't want it to get cancelled or run into the ground and right now its being run into the ground.
Give it a break and a chance for a big comeback.
There will allways be a channel there with open arms for BB when its ready to return.
Jake.
05-09-2014, 10:48 PM
A break will do nothing in the long term if producers aren't going to change their ways though.. It just means that we watch the same trashy television only 5 years down the line.
MojoNixon
05-09-2014, 10:50 PM
Erm I voted for Gary to stay tonight.
Gary is my favourite.
Your actually living in your own avid merion fandom world.
Well if you did do so, i'm sorry. Just wondering, why we don't see you defending Gary? Usually, you just wanna insult everyone. Don' wanna say it in bad way, but it seems that you are there just for getting angry, and try to find someone that you can hate.
JTM45
05-09-2014, 10:54 PM
It just needs a radical make-over with a whole new set of people running it!
'A break' won't do anything if it comes back exactly the same.
Absorption
05-09-2014, 10:58 PM
How will my viewing experience be refreshed when BB is really failing production wise at the moment. If it carries on like this then when I switch on in 5 years BB will be long gone.
Im thinking for the good of the show, I love Big Brother im an absolute dork when it comes to BB and don't want it to get cancelled or run into the ground and right now its being run into the ground.
Give it a break and a chance for a big comeback.
There will allways be a channel there with open arms for BB when its ready to return.
There will also be a channel ready to lick up the crumbs as soon as the present one retires it. If Endemol (or whoever owns the BB rights now) were to give it a break, someone would knock out a rip-off to fill whatever gap remained. When the real thing returned, it would probably lack impact due to the presence of the watered-down but still sufficiently similar clone having been on our screens.
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 11:07 PM
Well if you did do so, i'm sorry. Just wondering, why we don't see you defending Gary? Usually, you just wanna insult everyone. Don' wanna say it in bad way, but it seems that you are there just for getting angry, and try to find someone that you can hate.
Yeah you got me totally wrong.
You are obviously just glancing over my comments about housemates. Sorry if they are more than 1 sentence or contain more than 1 opinion.
I think its known on here I don't HATE any housemate I think that's pathetic especially with no live feed I will not be manipulated to hate someone by a 38 minute show.
I have defended Gary occasionally but I don't think he needs defending, I think its belittling to say *Leave Gary alone he is old and has brain damage* when Gary himself is very capable of standing up for himself.
I think the people who are crying out ageism or calling for special treatment for him are just being overly sensitive to his issues which he is totally fine with.
Hes over it, why should you be getting all menstral over it?
daniel-lewis-1985
05-09-2014, 11:15 PM
There will also be a channel ready to lick up the crumbs as soon as the present one retires it. If Endemol (or whoever owns the BB rights now) were to give it a break, someone would knock out a rip-off to fill whatever gap remained. When the real thing returned, it would probably lack impact due to the presence of the watered-down but still sufficiently similar clone having been on our screens.
Nah that's like replacing The X Factor with Stars In Their Eyes.
Big Brother is still a huge brand and nothing however similar it may be can replace the legacy of BB there are just to many iconic moments.
BB is at this time in point strong enough to take some time out I think and come back and kick arse again. Its sad seeing it flopping, the producers have run out of ideas completely and no 6 month boardroom meeting will fix that.
It needs time away and a lot of thought out preparation but its so jampacked what we will get even after next weeks finale is 3 1/2 months till CBB15 then 4/5 months till BB16.
Its to much, theres no time for them to actually fix this show it needs some serious T L C.
ozzyshaggah
06-09-2014, 12:13 AM
too much big brother is never enough...........
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