Kellie said Gary was the biggest player in the house & knows how to play the old man

[cfromhx02]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

[Black Dagger]

Your obsessive threads are only making me love him more xo

[bots]

Its turning in to a one person vendetta :joker:

[cfromhx02]

Your obsessive threads are only making me love him more xo

Yeah yeah yeah call me deluded, obsessive any insult you want.

All people with insults like deluded, obsessive etc show is that they don't have an argument back so can only respond with bullying comments to try n silence

[ThriceShy]

What an evil bastard that gary is. He goes on a gameshow and plays a game!

How could he?:mad:

[MojoNixon]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

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[MojoNixon]

Yeah yeah yeah call me deluded, obsessive any insult you want.

All people with insults like deluded, obsessive etc show is that they don't have an argument back so can only respond with bullying comments to try n silence

Stephanie, is that you?

[bots]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

I'm interested to understand what fundamental issue there is with Gary that makes people search for the minutest faults within him. Is anyone perfect? What is it that makes Gary be accountable to higher standards than anyone else. This is a genuine question, I would like to understand it.

[rusticgal]

Apart from the deafness I have never seen Gary acting or behaving like an old man....oh and going to bed early.

[Liam-]

What an evil bastard that gary is. He goes on a gameshow and plays a game!

How could he?:mad:

If when he comes out, he takes out the hearing aid and declares that he was faking it all along (obviously i don't think he is faking being deaf, just giving an example, before anyone jumps down my throat) how would it make the people who has supported him feel? knowing that he won by pretending to have a disability?
And in the process annoying everybody and deliberately winding them up so he can play the victim, all while totally destroying their character, would that not be relevant to him being a fake?
(again, just giving examples, don't hate me xo)

[Josy]

'playing the old man'

Um he is an old man.

[Liam-]

'playing the old man'

Um he is an old man.

But not all old men act and behave like old men :laugh:

[Josy]

But not all old men act and behave like old men :laugh:

They are still old men.

[susie q]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

Of course hes playing the game, as indeed they all are. Garys just doing better
than the rest of them, not only is he more entertaining hes also an interesting character, unlike the rest of the big bores. I hope he wins.

[Liam-]

They are still old men.

Yes.. that's obvious.. but just because they're old men, doesn't mean they all act like old men, look at that show that was on recently, about those old people in Ibiza (iirc) they didn't act like old people did they? She was saying that he is good at playing to the old man sterotype.

[bots]

If when he comes out, he takes out the hearing aid and declares that he was faking it all along (obviously i don't think he is faking being deaf, just giving an example, before anyone jumps down my throat) how would it make the people who has supported him feel? knowing that he won by pretending to have a disability?
And in the process annoying everybody and deliberately winding them up so he can play the victim, all while totally destroying their character, would that not be relevant to him being a fake?
(again, just giving examples, don't hate me xo)

We could all come up with hypothetical scenarios. I know Gary is playing the game, that is what it is all about after all :)

The way I approach it is who can play the game but keep it entertaining without getting nasty and vindictive. For me, Gary wins, personal opinion, and it won't be the end of the world if Gary is not crowned the winner in the end, he has given me the most enjoyment, and is probably my favourite housemate of all time

[Josy]

Yes.. that's obvious.. but just because they're old men, doesn't mean they all act like old men, look at that show that was on recently, about those old people in Ibiza (iirc) they didn't act like old people did they? She was saying that he is good at playing to the old man sterotype.

Yes it was as obvious as your first comment in reply to me tbh.

The OP says that Gary 'knows how to act the old man' which I found to be completely pointless because he is an old man..your comment never really added anything of worth after that did it? just pointed out the obvious much like the OP comment did IMO

And for anyone aware of Gary before CBB he is acting the exact same in the house as out of it, apart from being a bit subdued at times due to some of the other hm's.

[Tip]

I'm not sure there is any objective definition of "old man". Lets face it with more and more people living into their 100s and the retirement age rising and rising - 70 is getting to be like the new 50.

I think "behaving like an old man" is pretending to be vulnerable and less able when you are more than capable.

[joeysteele]

But not all old men act and behave like old men :laugh:

Not all old men have had serious accidents and had brain surgery then coupled with hearing disabilities too to be fair.

[Josy]

I'm not sure there is any objective definition of "old man". Lets face it with more and more people living into their 100s and the retirement age rising and rising - 70 is getting to be like the new 50.

I think "behaving like an old man" is pretending to be vulnerable and less able when you are more than capable.

He doesn't pretend to be vulnerable though. He is a bit unsteady on his feet at times which is understandable and he is almost deaf.

Theres no pretending involved.

[Tip]

He doesn't pretend to be vulnerable though. He is a bit unsteady on his feet at times which is understandable and he is almost deaf.

Theres no pretending involved.


I've seen him use his age to excuse things however. He could have used his brain surgery of course, I don't really care.

I wasn't the one stating that he was playing the old man, that was Kelly.
She obviously saw a lot more of what goes on than we do.

[Northern Monkey]

If when he comes out, he takes out the hearing aid and declares that he was faking it all along (obviously i don't think he is faking being deaf, just giving an example, before anyone jumps down my throat) how would it make the people who has supported him feel? knowing that he won by pretending to have a disability?
And in the process annoying everybody and deliberately winding them up so he can play the victim, all while totally destroying their character, would that not be relevant to him being a fake?
(again, just giving examples, don't hate me xo)

I think that would be brilliant!

[Liam-]

Not all old men have had serious accidents and had brain surgery then coupled with hearing disabilities too to be fair.

I didn't say they did?.. I'm just pointing out that just because someone is old, doesn't mean they act that way, his brain surgery wouldn't limit him to acting like an old man, neither would deafness, i know that the accidents had serious effects on him, but that wouldn't stop him from acting younger than he is.. take for example, when he was running around the house tickling Ricci, then throwing himself against the toilet door to get to him, It's very rare to see someone of his age to be that energetic, so that shows that he is quite capable on his feet and in himself.
But then is quite happy to sit there and say that he has a bad knee, say that he can't hear people very well, which he can't so fair play, all of which portrays someone who wants to be seen as an old man.
Oh before i forget and this isn't aimed at you in Joey, just people in general.. since people on here need such clarification, this is my opinion, in no way am i stating this as fact :)

[Josy]

I've seen him use his age to excuse things however. He could have used his brain surgery of course, I don't really care.

I wasn't the one stating that he was playing the old man, that was Kelly.
She obviously saw a lot more of what goes on than we do.

Well to be quite I honest I see no problem with that in certain circumstances, he certainly isn't the first housemate to be excused from certain things due to age.

I don't have a problem with anyone stating he is acting the old man my points were, he is an old man so I find it a bit pointless to say he is acting one.

[arista]

But not all old men act and behave like old men :laugh:


They do if they have
had accidents
and damaged hearing

[Liam-]

I think that would be brilliant!

You think it would be brilliant for someone to fake a disability just to win a tv show?.. amazing.

[Tip]

Well to be quite I honest I see no problem with that in certain circumstances, he certainly isn't the first housemate to be excused from certain things due to age.

I don't have a problem with anyone stating he is acting the old man my points were, he is an old man so I find it a bit pointless to say he is acting one.

That's fine, my gran would call Gary middle-aged as she is now in her 90s lol.

I'm not talking physical things so much. Gary has excused the fact that he is 70 to explain why he needs to be told things that may seem obvious to others, and why he doesn't find it easy to change and he is trying to learn. As I said, he could have used the brain surgery thing too (may have and I missed it)

I'm not convinced that Gary isn't learning things extremely quickly but playing people because he sees exactly how to wind them up and make them look bad. If he is doing that, good on him.

He's highly intelligent and well read, he knows how reality shows work, he is an actor, balanced against having had brain surgery and being 70 years old.

We just don't know.

[Northern Monkey]

You think it would be brilliant for someone to fake a disability just to win a tv show?.. amazing.

If he actually pulled it off(which i don't believe he could),I would have to applaud his acting abilities.

[sassysocks]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

If you actually watched the show you would have seen that Gary has not played up to the 'old man' image, he always says he is fine when others ask if he is okay. He has never said unpleasant things, although entitled, to or about others who have given him a hard time. He has never played the sympathy card.

It is the public who have rightly pointed out how housemates have failed to take into account his age and certain health conditions, leading to misunderstandings, in thier harsh judgement and treatment of him.

[jaxie]

My son really wants Gary to come out hobbling like Gene Wilder in Charlie and the chocolate factory, do a somersault and laugh. Would be awesome but I think the truth is a mix of Gary having some health issues and people underestimating him. I think he does exhibit some delightful eccentricity that can possibly be attributed to his brain damage as can forgetting to shower. I think all the poo on the hands stuff is paranoia from someone who perceives him as dirty and exaggerates. Many accidentally or otyherwise pee on the toilet seat so he isnt alone if in fact it was him and not one of the other male housemates having a dribble. I think he is spritely for seventy but he is still seventy. I think he has trouble hearing, more in some situations than others, and he probably has some balance problems due to his hearing. Going on what I have seen he is often completely misinterpreted by the housemates and some of their fans. Shame on them really.

We don't care if he is playing a game or not. We like him. We like how he has handled the situation he is in. We don't like the way other housemates behave towards and about him. Get s life and stop trying to force others to your point of view with constant anti Gary threads.

[Suze]

Well then if that's the case, then Gary is playing it better than Kellie did, as Gary is still in there, and Kellie is not :D BB is a game. Kellie is a sore loser just because her gameplan came to nowt :joker:

[jaxie]

You think it would be brilliant for someone to fake a disability just to win a tv show?.. amazing.

You said on another thread it was wrong to slate someone because of their appearance but here you are questioning someones disability. You aren't a doctor or specialist. Stop the double standards it's uncool.

[Jules2]

When Kellie told us Gary hadn't been rude to her all that meant was that he hadn't been rude to her.

I noticed how her also saying that he was a player that knew how to play the old man was conveniently not mentioned, avoided from being said on the other thread

yet she said that too

ofcourse he knows how to play a part play up to it for the sympathy vote he's a hollywood actor for goodness sake he's fooled most who've been backing him all along

Many would love to think he has fooled us but he hasnt!! Who said he was an "old" man, Kellie is 63!!! She played the part of needing sympathy. The word "old" should be taken out it is ageism and the HMs have fallen for the 7 and the 0 instead of looking further. I have no doubt they were told he had had brain surgery so what do they look for a doddery "old" person who should possibly be in an OAP home. Dee "I am not your carer", Ricci "I wouldnt want you as an example for my kids" George "I didnt come in here to babysit". Well George you may as well because you made your living (which I have never ever seen) sat on a couch and now your mama and papa are out of jobs.

Heaven forbid how old is Dee, acting like a youngster, she has a boyfriend but loves to think of herself as young, she isnt. How old are the others, I believe the youngest is Lauren, yep she is still peeing in the pool, getting drunk and falling on another HM waking him up. I guess that was an accident we will let her have that one but much has been made about Gary pushing her?

We have James still trying to trot the outdated version of youth, trying to fit in with and to stand up to the likes of Audley and thinking he has the better of Gary. "He has to earn my respect" oh boy what a toy......

Gary does not have the sympathy vote, he has the vote because of the way he has handled everything which has been thrown at him from day one. He was told in the beginning that everyone hated him, another time, he had upset everyone. He has apologised numerous times, has anyone ever apologised to him? It cuts both ways. What are the others doing and what have they done? The mind surely boggles.

[jegmeister]

You think it would be brilliant for someone to fake a disability just to win a tv show?.. amazing.

faking a disability? err...I'm sorry but this is rubbish. He has been diagnosed with hearing problems hence the hearing aid - no faking about it. What else has he faked while we're at it? The brain damage - maybe he bribed the brain surgeon to carry out a needless operation on him. Perhaps he faked his own recovery, pretending to have to walk and talk again just so that years later he could come on a reality TV show and con the audience.

Congratulations for winning the award for the most ludicrous conspiracy theory in history.

[jaxie]

faking a disability? err...I'm sorry but this is rubbish. He has been diagnosed with hearing problems hence the hearing aid - no faking about it. What else has he faked while we're at it? The brain damage - maybe he bribed the brain surgeon to carry out a needless operation on him. Perhaps he faked his own recovery, pretending to have to walk and talk again just so that years later he could come on a reality TV show and con the audience.

Congratulations for winning the award for the most ludicrous conspiracy theory in history.

That.

[Jules2]

That's fine, my gran would call Gary middle-aged as she is now in her 90s lol.

I'm not talking physical things so much. Gary has excused the fact that he is 70 to explain why he needs to be told things that may seem obvious to others, and why he doesn't find it easy to change and he is trying to learn. As I said, he could have used the brain surgery thing too (may have and I missed it)

I'm not convinced that Gary isn't learning things extremely quickly but playing people because he sees exactly how to wind them up and make them look bad. If he is doing that, good on him.

He's highly intelligent and well read, he knows how reality shows work, he is an actor, balanced against having had brain surgery and being 70 years old.

We just don't know.

Aw bless her 90. My parents were 82 when I lost them one after the other but they were still out dancing and enjoying themselves. As we get older we accept each stage and become that which we want to. Love to your Gran.

[Suze]

You think it would be brilliant for someone to fake a disability just to win a tv show?.. amazing.

Liam, I think you are sailing very close to the wind with some comments of which you have no proof of whatsoever. I realise you can't stand, maybe even hate Gary, but he is just a harmless Celeb playing the BB game as best he can, and imho being very entertaining. Surely you can cut him a little bit of slack now and again.

[Jules2]

What an evil bastard that gary is. He goes on a gameshow and plays a game!

How could he?:mad:

:cheer2: Dear dear dear, what a naughty fellow. I wonder if I could make an appointment and have a word with him over it? I would simply love to sit and chat to him.

[Liam-]

You said on another thread it was wrong to slate someone because of their appearance but here you are questioning someones disability. You aren't a doctor or specialist. Stop the double standards it's uncool.

If you read my other posts, you'd realise that what you just quoted was part of a theoretical conversation between me and someone else which stemmed from someone else saying he could be playing a massive game, in my original post which you obviously ignored i even stated 'This is theoretical, i know he is deaf, i'm just using this as an example' so please do your research before you start having a pop at someone, get off your high horse love, it's boring :idc:

Liam, I think you are sailing very close to the wind with some comments of which you have no proof of whatsoever. I realise you can't stand, maybe even hate Gary, but he is just a harmless Celeb playing the BB game as best he can, and imho being very entertaining. Surely you can cut him a little bit of slack now and again.

Same reply to you as what i wrote above..only i'll add that i have said on multiple occasions that i don't dislike Gary, i find him interesting to watch, but i'm not one of these people who pander to everything he says, but no i don't hate him.

[jaxie]

If you read my other posts, you'd realise that what you just quoted was part of a theoretical conversation between me and someone else which stemmed from someone else saying he could be playing a massive game, in my original post which you obviously ignored i even stated 'This is theoretical, i know he is deaf, i'm just using this as an example' so please do your research before you start having a pop at someone, get off your high horse love, it's boring :idc:



Same reply to you as what i wrote above..only i'll add that i have said on multiple occasions that i don't dislike Gary, i find him interesting to watch, but i'm not one of these people who pander to everything he says, but no i don't hate him.

Theoretical? Convenient. I have a cat I don't think she's like me to ride her.

[Liam-]

Theoretical? Convenient. I have a cat I don't think she's like me to ride her.

Yes theoretical.. and your cat probably wouldn't like to be ridden by you, cats are not meant for riding, i don't see your point?

[jaxie]

Yes theoretical.. and your cat probably wouldn't like to be ridden by you, cats are not meant for riding, i don't see your point?

It was a touch of humour, you didn't get it.

[Liam-]

It was a touch of humour, you didn't get it.

We obviously have a different sense of humour then..

[Margarine.]

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[ThriceShy]

I don't understand these accusations of Gary playing a game.

Are people saying that just because he doesn't react badly to being bullied then he is playing a game? Perhaps he is just chilled out and forgiving.

[JoshBB]

:sleep: These anti-Gary threads.. *yawn*

[Suze]

:sleep: These anti-Gary threads.. *yawn*

Oh I don't know. I think when so many anti threads, like the Gary ones pop up, then the more I am inclined to believe that that housemate is perceived as a serious threat to other favourites :) Gives me hope that a housmate such as Gary has a good chance of winning then :)

[Pincho Paxton]

Damn it took Gary 70 years of acting skills to learn how to play an old man. If only he had learned this when he was 20.

Kellie didn't go to school, anything she says is based around low intelligence.