BB had no right to show Gary's knee incident

[ThriceShy]

I thought medical matters were protected. Kim and claire were taken from the house with us knowing nothing and not seeing anything that led up to it.

Tonight you had a 70 year old man suddenly get a problem with his knee and in his panic he pulled his trousers down to deal with the medical issue.

Why wasn't his medical privacy and dignity respected? They should not show that.

[Liam-]

His knee hurt.. It was hardly anything embarrassing like having the squirts was it? :laugh:

[Jules2]

I thought medical matters were protected. Kim and claire were taken from the house with us knowing nothing and not seeing anything that led up to it.

Tonight you had a 70 year old man suddenly get a problem with his knee and in his panic he pulled his trousers down to deal with the medical issue.

Why wasn't his medical privacy and dignity respected? They should not show that.

It does make one wonder tbh but of course they also showed him getting pulled over the coals. Makes one wonder. BOTS favourites Gary: George and Dee: It has been George and Dee from the beginning. Cant understand it as where are the celebrities?

[bots]

It was a personal medical condition, so I can see the argument not to show it. However, it generated the biggest/only conflict/story of the day, so it had to get a mention

[Jamesy]

Privacy and dignity? You do realise he got his cock and balls out in a kitchen, with cameras at all angles and a woman preparing food two feet away. :laugh:

[ThriceShy]

Privacy and dignity? You do realise he got his cock and balls out in a kitchen, with cameras at all angles and a woman preparing food two feet away. :laugh:

Which woman was 2 feet away?

[bots]

Privacy and dignity? You do realise he got his cock and balls out in a kitchen, with cameras at all angles and a woman preparing food two feet away. :laugh:

That is complete bollocks actually :rant:

Your description couldn't be further from the reality. Firstly, he sat down on a chair immediately, secondly, there were no women in the room when he took his trousers down.

The depths people go to take cheap shots and score points is obscene

[Jamesy]

That is complete bollocks actually :rant:

Your description couldn't be further from the reality. Firstly, he sat down on a chair immediately, secondly, there were no women in the room when he took his trousers down.

The depths people go to take cheap shots and score points is obscene

Ah yes, I was mistaken. I thought Dee was in the room at the time but it was actually James and George who were in the room.

So yes, still in a kitchen with cameras at all angles and two male housemates two feet away.

So nope, not any depths for cheap shots. Actually a valid point. :)

[ThriceShy]

Ah yes, I was mistaken. I thought Dee was in the room at the time but it was actually James and George who were in the room.

So yes, still in a kitchen with cameras at all angles and two male housemates two feet away.

So nope, not any depths for cheap shots. Actually a valid point. :)

And if a pregnant woman was in the house and her waters suddenly broke in the kitchen and she started giving birth, would she be criticised?

Gary had a medical emergency. He dealt with it as discreetly as he could.

[the truth]

His knee hurt.. It was hardly anything embarrassing like having the squirts was it? :laugh:

when the american girl had her back shown to camera in cbb2012 year, she threatened to sue, but its ok if its at old man right?

[the truth]

That is complete bollocks actually :rant:

Your description couldn't be further from the reality. Firstly, he sat down on a chair immediately, secondly, there were no women in the room when he took his trousers down.

The depths people go to take cheap shots and score points is obscene

agreed, spot on. the pitiful competition is getting mega desperate and are really in the gutter now, as are their supporters.

[Liam-]

when the american girl had her back shown to camera in cbb2012 year, she threatened to sue, but its ok if its at old man right?

Umm.. What?

[the truth]

Umm.. What?

The word is pardon, do your own research for a change.

[Jamesy]

And if a pregnant woman was in the house and her waters suddenly broke in the kitchen and she started giving birth, would she be criticised?

Gary had a medical emergency. He dealt with it as discreetly as he could.

A hurting knee is slightly different to a nine month pregnancy. What a ludicrous comparison.

He didn't have a medical emergency. I've worked for the NHS and I know what medical emergencies look like. That was not it.

[Liam-]

The word is pardon, do your own research for a change.

'The American girl had her back shown' is hardly a great basis for research isn't it? :laugh:

[the truth]

'The American girl had her back shown' is hardly a great basis for research isn't it? :laugh:

Its a double standard. work it out. Keep up.

[bots]

Ah yes, I was mistaken. I thought Dee was in the room at the time but it was actually James and George who were in the room.

So yes, still in a kitchen with cameras at all angles and two male housemates two feet away.

So nope, not any depths for cheap shots. Actually a valid point. :)

it is bollocks cause you were taking cheap shots against a man who was in pain and panicking about his injury.

Trying to poke fun and make a joke out of someone in that position sure ain't cool to me

[the truth]

A hurting knee is slightly different to a nine month pregnancy. What a ludicrous comparison.

He didn't have a medical emergency. I've worked for the NHS and I know what medical emergencies look like. That was not it.

its not pregnancy but his knee popped out, thats serious pain. added to his other problems he deserved more empathy compassion and respect. as an nhs employee Im sure you agree.

[the truth]

it is bollocks cause you were taking cheap shots against a man who was in pain and panicking about his injury.

Trying to poke fun and make a joke out of someone in that position sure ain't cool to me

Agreed its evil , immoral and disgusting.

[Liam-]

Its a double standard. work it out. Keep up.

There's no need to be so rude like.

[Jamesy]

it is bollocks cause you were taking cheap shots against a man who was in pain and panicking about his injury.

Trying to poke fun and make a joke out of someone in that position sure ain't cool to me

How was I taking cheap shots... I evaluated what I believed I saw and posted it on here. That's not a cheap shot, that's an opinion on a Big Brother housemate...

I wasn't making a joke or poking fun either. But ok then.

its not pregnancy but his knee popped out, thats serious pain. added to his other problems he deserved more empathy compassion and respect. as an nhs employee Im sure you agree.

He didn't look in any immense pain or suffering though. He was just walking over casually to a chair that was further away than say, the sofas, or even the toilet.

[Marsh.]

Its a double standard. work it out. Keep up.

No it isn't. Both pieces of footage were shown.

One of those twins threatened to sue, Gary hasn't.

No double standard.

The twin didn't want her bottom shown on camera so ensured her bottom was covered, until someone else took to exposing her against her will.

Gary clearly didn't care and pulled his trousers down in front of everyone willingly, having no problem being seen both by the housemates and the cameras.

[Kizzy]

It was very humiliating and really uncomfortable to watch as he was obviously in a lot of distress, james handled the situation with his usual tactless ramblings.
Maybe they should suggest he only wear joggers so he can get to his knee without removing his trousers if he has a problem with it again.

[the truth]

No it isn't. Both pieces of footage were shown.

One of those twins threatened to sue, Gary hasn't.

No double standard.

The twin didn't want her bottom shown on camera so ensured her bottom was covered, until someone else took to exposing her against her will.

Gary clearly didn't care and pulled his trousers down in front of everyone willingly, having no problem being seen both by the housemates and the cameras.

her ass wasnt shown? also the fact umpteen women run around naked over the years and no warning, busey merely shows part of his bottom for a few seconds for a medical problem. not exhibitionism like these women and other men whove also taken their clothes off over the years. you show gary zero compassion for his many health problems. then again you keep encouraing violence against all men, so I expected no less. tut tut:nono::nono::nono::nono:

[Marsh.]

her ass wasnt shown? also the fact umpteen women run around naked over the years and no warning, busey merely shows part of his bottom for a few seconds for a medical problem. not exhibitionism like these women and other men whove also taken their clothes off over the years. you show gary zero compassion for his many health problems. then again you keep encouraing violence against all men, so I expected no less. tut tut:nono::nono::nono::nono:

I've shown plenty compassion for his health problems. Gary is the housemate with my support.

The only reason her "ass" wasn't shown was because she pretty much pulled them straight up before Denise managed to have them clean off her so there wasn't much to show. The girl panicked and went into the diary room in case they got anything on tape.

Regardless, it's two very different circumstances. Both incidents were aired on the television however.

[the truth]

I've shown plenty compassion for his health problems. Gary is the housemate with my support.

The only reason her "ass" wasn't shown was because she pretty much pulled them straight up before Denise managed to have them clean off her so there wasn't much to show. The girl panicked and went into the diary room in case they got anything on tape.

Regardless, it's two very different circumstances. Both incidents were aired on the television however.

youve shown him no sympathy at all. Clearly this goes hand in hand with your beliefs of supporting violence against men.

[Marsh.]

youve shown him no sympathy at all. Clearly this goes hand in hand with your beliefs of supporting violence against men.

Yep, it clearly does.

[puzzled]

How was I taking cheap shots... I evaluated what I believed I saw and posted it on here. That's not a cheap shot, that's an opinion on a Big Brother housemate...

I wasn't making a joke or poking fun either. But ok then.



He didn't look in any immense pain or suffering though. He was just walking over casually to a chair that was further away than say, the sofas, or even the toilet.

He was groaning in pain. Didn't you hear the grunts?

[puzzled]

A hurting knee is slightly different to a nine month pregnancy. What a ludicrous comparison.

He didn't have a medical emergency. I've worked for the NHS and I know what medical emergencies look like. That was not it.

A popped knee is excruciating. The comparison is not ludicrous.

[Ace]

I agree they should have halted the recording so he could get medical attention. Instead they kept the cameras rolling for cheap laughs and more advertising money.

Its not double standards its no standards whatsoever.

[Tip]

Did he get medical attention?

[smileymummy]

That is complete bollocks actually :rant:

Your description couldn't be further from the reality. Firstly, he sat down on a chair immediately, secondly, there were no women in the room when he took his trousers down.

The depths people go to take cheap shots and score points is obscene

Dee was in the kitchen cooking and james wa there too,how could you miss that? or were you watching a totally different programme?

[Jamesy]

He was groaning in pain. Didn't you hear the grunts?

He wasn't, and he makes noises like that most of the time.

If it were as serious as people have made out he would have been in the diary room or outside the house. Not randomly pulling his trousers down in a public space.

A popped knee is excruciating. The comparison is not ludicrous.

Yes it is.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Gary walks around in the bathroom with his dick out lol can you not remember the lovely shot of him naked towel drying himself in the background whilst everyone else chatted away normally.

The previous housemates illnesses were not shown as they had the ****s and were throwing up, that's a bit more intrusive.

I wish people would stop saying stuff shouldn't happen to him because he is 70, he is sharp as everyone else in there. He would probably be pretty insulted to know so many people are feeling sorry for him or treating him as an old man.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Yep, it clearly does.

LOL I love this post.

Simple yet effective ;)

[joeysteele]

its not pregnancy but his knee popped out, thats serious pain. added to his other problems he deserved more empathy compassion and respect. as an nhs employee Im sure you agree.

I fully agree with you, the more worrying thing was that he possibly felt he couldn't ask the others for assistance.

James for one just stared open mouthed at him, I would like to think had I been there that I woudl ahve said 'is something wrong,can I help you somewhere better to deal with that'.

Then the warthog Dee snorting off just escalated the whole thing, Edele and most of the others had to ask what happened,had Dee shut her rather massive mouth,this could have been sorted far easier and in a more dignified way.

Gary said he panicked,I can understand that and once you feel something is seemingly going wrong you don't think,you just act.

[Vanessa]

I fully agree with you, the more worrying thing was that he possibly felt he couldn't ask the others for assistance.

James for one just stared open mouthed at him, I would like to think had I been there that I woudl ahve said 'is something wrong,can I help you somewhere better to deal with that'.

Then the warthog Dee snorting off just escalated the whole thing, Edele and most of the others had to ask what happened,had Dee shut her rather massive mouth,this could have been sorted far easier and in a more dignified way.

Gary said he panicked,I can understand that and once you feel something is seemingly going wrong you don't think,you just act.

This!

[Liam-]

So basically, BB should have shown everyone's reaction to what Gary did, but not the event that started it all off.. so we'd have seen an unfair perspective of what truly happened?
If he stood there and defecated himself, i'm pretty sure that it wouldn't have been shown as that is personal, but as we already know that he has a standing knee injury, i don't see why it should have not been shown, it's hardly personal or embarrassing.

[Kazanne]

QUOTE=bitontheslide;7254166]That is complete bollocks actually :rant:

Your description couldn't be further from the reality. Firstly, he sat down on a chair immediately, secondly, there were no women in the room when he took his trousers down.

The depths people go to take cheap shots and score points is obscene[/QUOTE]

:clap1::clap1: Well said again,some people eh?

[Kazanne]

Dee was in the kitchen cooking and james wa there too,how could you miss that? or were you watching a totally different programme?

No,watch it again,dee walked in the kitchen,when he sat down it was just James and George

[mary poppins]

The last time one of the hm offered to help him with his knee he told them "I don't need your help".

[Jamesy]

So basically, BB should have shown everyone's reaction to what Gary did, but not the event that started it all off.. so we'd have seen an unfair perspective of what truly happened?
If he stood there and defecated himself, i'm pretty sure that it wouldn't have been shown as that is personal, but as we already know that he has a standing knee injury, i don't see why it should have not been shown, it's hardly personal or embarrassing.

I agree with this.

It would have been interesting to see what happened prior to Gary taking his trousers off, since it was just a random moment of him being in the kitchen getting his bits out. But then that Big Brothers editing for you, messy.

[Ellen]

I agree with this.

It would have been interesting to see what happened prior to Gary taking his trousers off, since it was just a random moment of him being in the kitchen getting his bits out. But then that Big Brothers editing for you, messy.

He didnt take his trousers off, he pulled them down a little bit before sitting down. The only thing that you could see before he sat down was the bottom of his bum. George showed more bare ass when he got his out in the kitchen but no one went off on one like Dee did with Gary.

[Liam-]

He didnt take his trousers off, he pulled them down a little bit before sitting down. The only thing that you could see before he sat down was the bottom of his bum. George showed more bare ass when he got his out in the kitchen but no one went off on one like Dee did with Gary.

That's what we were shown, but what about the people who saw it from the front angle, what did they see? They wouldn't have shown us full frontal (Thank god!) but just because all we saw was ass, doesn't mean that's all that was shown.

[Ellen]

That's what we were shown, but what about the people who saw it from the front angle, what did they see? They wouldn't have shown us full frontal (Thank god!) but just because all we saw was ass, doesn't mean that's all that was shown.

There was no problem them showing him full frontal when he got out of the shower. They blurred it so as not to offend viewers (i assume) so they would have no problem showing what James & George may have seen would they?

[Liam-]

There was no problem them showing him full frontal when he got out of the shower. They blurred it so as not to offend viewers (i assume) so they would have no problem showing what James & George may have seen would they?

They could have, but they didn't, that doesn't take away from the fact that his bits were out..

[bots]

They could have, but they didn't, that doesn't take away from the fact that his bits were out..

Context context context, do we need to go over the same point in each thread? I believe people are trolling now

[Liam-]

Context context context, do we need to go over the same point in each thread? I believe people are trolling now

Context? what more context do you need? the guy pulled his trousers down to his knees and his bits were out.. get a grip and stop accusing people of trolling if they don't see things the way you do.

[jaxie]

That's what we were shown, but what about the people who saw it from the front angle, what did they see? They wouldn't have shown us full frontal (Thank god!) but just because all we saw was ass, doesn't mean that's all that was shown.

Doesn't really matter its only nudity. It not as if he was sitting there milking the cow is it.

[Liam-]

Doesn't really matter its only nudity. It not as if he was sitting there milking the cow is it.

Some people are offended by that sort of nudity though :laugh:

[Niamh.]

lets call a spade a spade here though, the only reason people were offended is because he's old and not very attractive, nudity has never been against BB rules and no one has ever got a warning for it before, that's pretty discriminatory imo

[Liam-]

I'm pretty sure the fact that he did it in the middle of the kitchen while people were preparing stuff to eat/drink is a part of why people got offended..

[Ellen]

lets call a spade a spade here though, the only reason people were offended is because he's old and not very attractive, nudity has never been against BB rules and no one has ever got a warning for it before, that's pretty discriminatory imo

Agree :thumbs:

[Niamh.]

I'm pretty sure the fact that he did it in the middle of the kitchen while people were preparing stuff to eat/drink is a part of why people got offended..

I disagree, if Ricci had done it do you think Dee would have been offended? She was offended because it was Gary, that is a fact

[Liam-]

I disagree, if Ricci had done it do you think Dee would have been offended? She was offended because it was Gary, that is a fact

That is not a fact, If Ricci had gotten his bits out in the kitchen when they were cooking, i'm sure they would have said something.

[Jules2]

A hurting knee is slightly different to a nine month pregnancy. What a ludicrous comparison.

He didn't have a medical emergency. I've worked for the NHS and I know what medical emergencies look like. That was not it.

To be fair and tbh none of us know exactly, if his knee gives out, as it did the other day, and he risks a fall then yes it was an emergency. It is a lot of fuss over nothing and I ask myself why didnt Dee just look away and the other two offer to help and ask him what was wrong?

Dee should still be pulled up for her nasty beligerent fighting remarks and talking about noms. We saw last night on BOTS that George and Dee (as well as Gary) are the favourites, they have been since day one.

[Niamh.]

That is not a fact, If Ricci had gotten his bits out in the kitchen when they were cooking, i'm sure they would have said something.

I don't think they would, not if he said oh my knee popped or something medical like what Gary said, I'd bet my life Dee would be all over him trying to help

[Jules2]

I disagree, if Ricci had done it do you think Dee would have been offended? She was offended because it was Gary, that is a fact

Dee would have loved it and had a giggle, her offence was pretence just to make a scene and get air time along with James and his face. Gary was sat down before she came in I believe.

[Jules2]

lets call a spade a spade here though, the only reason people were offended is because he's old and not very attractive, nudity has never been against BB rules and no one has ever got a warning for it before, that's pretty discriminatory imo

Totally agree. Double standards all the way down the line.

[Liam-]

I don't think they would, not if he said oh my knee popped or something medical like what Gary said, I'd bet my life Dee would be all over him trying to help

I think we'll have to agree disagree on this one then :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Totally agree. Double standards all the way down the line.

and what's worse is that Gary had a genuine reason for doing what he did unlike 90% of the other nakedness before on BB

[Niamh.]

I think we'll have to agree disagree on this one then :laugh:

:love:

[jaxie]

I'm pretty sure the fact that he did it in the middle of the kitchen while people were preparing stuff to eat/drink is a part of why people got offended..
George mooned in the main room didn't he? Where is the difference?

[Liam-]

George mooned in the main room didn't he? Where is the difference?

The difference? he didn't sit there with his trousers around his knees with his front bits hanging out.
Not that i enjoy any sort of below the waist nudity on Tv, but there is a difference.

[jaxie]

The difference? he didn't sit there with his trousers around his knees with his front bits hanging out.
Not that i enjoy any sort of below the waist nudity on Tv, but there is a difference.
I didn't see the front bits of either, did you?

[bots]

The difference? he didn't sit there with his trousers around his knees with his front bits hanging out.
Not that i enjoy any sort of below the waist nudity on Tv, but there is a difference.

If you bare your ass, you bear other bits too. It is the same thing, the difference is that:

1. Gary is disliked by the hm's that took offense.
2. Gary had a reason for doing it given it was a medical emergency.

3. George is liked by other hm's so no offense
4. George was doing it for fun

[Niamh.]

If you bare your ass, you bear other bits too. It is the same thing, the difference is that:

1. Gary is disliked by the hm's that took offense.
2. Gary had a reason for doing it given it was a medical emergency.

3. George is liked by other hm's so no offense
4. George was doing it for fun

:clap2: In a nut shell

[Liam-]

If you bare your ass, you bear other bits too. It is the same thing, the difference is that:

1. Gary is disliked by the hm's that took offense.
2. Gary had a reason for doing it given it was a medical emergency.

3. George is liked by other hm's so no offense
4. George was doing it for fun

No.. that's not true at all, you can easily pull down the back of your trousers to expose your ass, without pulling the front down too..

[bots]

No.. that's not true at all, you can easily pull down the back of your trousers to expose your ass, without pulling the front down too..

and you can easily sit down and not expose your other bits too, which is what Gary did. We could even take it a stage further and say that Dee deliberately chose to seek out and view Gary's dangly bits, as he wasn't exactly waving them around for all to see :smug:

[Josy]

No.. that's not true at all, you can easily pull down the back of your trousers to expose your ass, without pulling the front down too..

Gary's frontal bits weren't exposed though, he was sitting on the seat and Dee walked in from behind seeing exactly what we did.

[Tarryn]

I don't get why people are more offended coz it happened in the kitchen.
Unless he got "Little Gary" out on the kitchen side or placed it in a saucepan, why is it so bad ?.
I'm more offended by HM's talking with their mouthful or not washing their hands.

[joeysteele]

lets call a spade a spade here though, the only reason people were offended is because he's old and not very attractive, nudity has never been against BB rules and no one has ever got a warning for it before, that's pretty discriminatory imo

Oh very well said Niamh, absolutely right.

[Vicky.]

her ass wasnt shown? also the fact umpteen women run around naked over the years and no warning, busey merely shows part of his bottom for a few seconds for a medical problem. not exhibitionism like these women and other men whove also taken their clothes off over the years. you show gary zero compassion for his many health problems. then again you keep encouraing violence against all men, so I expected no less. tut tut:nono::nono::nono::nono:

Its not just women either..Jay never got a warning for literally shaving his arse crack infront of the women in the house :o

Nor Cairon for shoving a banana up his rectum

I think the warning was more because of dees (over)reaction tbh.

Just reading what happened yesterday I kinda agreed that he should get a warning, however after seeing it I really dont. Its not like he was swinging his balls all over the kitchen worktop or something.

Nudity has always been a part of BB anyway..since when did they decide to start punishing for it D:

[Vicky.]

lets call a spade a spade here though, the only reason people were offended is because he's old and not very attractive, nudity has never been against BB rules and no one has ever got a warning for it before, that's pretty discriminatory imo

Basically this actually

[ebandit]

ha Ha! BB told gary off...............get over it

Mark L

[Niamh.]

ha Ha! BB told gary off...............get over it

Mark L

Yeah, lets all just stop discussing things that happened on the show then, shall we? :unsure:

[Pincho Paxton]

1/ Dee said...

"I didn't expect to walk into the Kitchen to see Gary's bits."

Which means that she walked into the kitchen.

2/ Gary was in pain, he sat down to fix his knee. Pain relief comes before nakedness.

3/ Dee, and James over-reacted.

[Marsh.]

It's not as if we saw his arse or cock anyway, so airing it was no big deal.

[Robodog]

I disagree, if Ricci had done it do you think Dee would have been offended? She was offended because it was Gary, that is a fact

Exactly. Great point Niamh.

Imagine Dee's reaction if Ricci had done the same thing.

Do you think she would have screamed for James to 'deal with this please!!'

Of course not. She would have called Ricci a cheeky monkey and that would have been that.

As, usual - everyone just leaps on Gary at any given opportunity.