Edele loses it with Gary vid

[erinp5]

9.15pm: Edele and Gary are having a slight disagreement about her talking too much. And they were all getting on so well #BBUKLive


9.27pm: George and James have waded into the little tiff. We're not even sure what it is about anymore. Neither are the

It all kicked off again in the Celebrity Big Brother 2014 house as this time Gary Busey and Edele Lynch came to blows.



The pair clashed in the garden after Gary asked Edele and George Gilbey to quieten down as he couldn’t hear James Jordan in a conversation they were having.

But Edele snapped: “Hold on a second, without arguing, I’ve no problem with you saying ‘Excuse me, would you mind being quiet because I can’t hear James’

“But actually saying that it’s my hobby to be too loud is weird.”

In a strange twist of events, Dee White and James were actually seemingly on Gary’s side of the row, although it did seem more like they were just trying to stir things up.

Edele told Gary: “I don’t appreciate it, I don’t appreciate it.”



Gary responded: “Get over it dear, please let it go.”

But Edele continued: “Me talking to my friends is not rude.

“Don’t ask me not to talk.”

Edele ended up walking out of the garden in tears, being comforted with a hug from James in the living area as Lauren Goodger and Ricci Guarnaccio looked on.

A teary Edele admitted: “I jut found that incredibly hard.”


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJgtdcmvMK4&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

[thesheriff443]

what was more interesting was james embrace with adele, do members think it was inappropriate?

[rionablue]

They sorted it out afterwards and were all friends again. This also appeared on twitter erin. Gary isn't UNTOUCHABLE and it seems that a lot of forum members slate anyone who says anything snide to him etc. Edele has been the nicest to him in the grand scheme of the whole series her and Audley that's why I want them as my top 3

[Vanessa]

Storm in a teacup. Not really an argument. Just a minor thing that they sorted out easily.

[erinp5]

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Edele is feeling better and relaxed now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCEzmkkPGBI&list=UUOIeG57ze1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

[bots]

Edele was trying to manufacture an argument with Gary, to make it look like she tells him like it is, there is a complete fabrication plant running in there :joker:

[jaxie]

Edele was out of order really. Once again no care because he can't hear, let's pick a fight with the deaf man rather than saying, sorry we were a bit loud, we'll go apart a bit so we don't disturb. It's not that hard to do that instead of picking a fight with someone who can't hear.

[rionablue]

Edele was out of order really. Once again no care because he can't hear, let's pick a fight with the deaf man rather than saying, sorry we were a bit loud, we'll go apart a bit so we don't disturb. It's not that hard to do that instead of picking a fight with someone who can't hear.

Anyone who doesn't like Edele will probably say that but Edele DOES like Gary and he likes her. It was a bit of a disagreement but as it said on twitter all was well afterwards. Gary can hear fine most of the time. I like Gary and I like Edele. But both aren't perfect and I only understand forum members jumping on housemates that GENUINELY hurt or belittle Gary. That is fair if its true.

[Patricia4]

This is so funny everytime someone attacks Gary he wins they all have to walk away he really got George and Edele in them video's.

[jaxie]

Anyone who doesn't like Edele will probably say that but Edele DOES like Gary and he likes her. It was a bit of a disagreement but as it said on twitter all was well afterwards. Gary can hear fine most of the time. I like Gary and I like Edele. But both aren't perfect and I only understand forum members jumping on housemates that GENUINELY hurt or belittle Gary. That is fair if its true.

I have nothing PERSONAL against Edele. I think she has a nice voice and I didn't know much about her before BB but what I don't like is the consistent inconsiderate behaviour by many housemates to one. Edele is a part of that and it can't be glossed over. Don't you see the harm she is doing to her own potential career with this? It's not about jumping on anyone, it's about common decency or the lack of it in that house. Her sister even gave her a veiled prompt about being nice to Gary in her full letter (not read on tonight's show but on the site) and she still didn't get it.

And once again everyone is hugging Edele and George is patronising Gary with a bit of a lecture.

[ThriceShy]

Gary owns them yet again.

I love how he never loses his temper. He has Edele and george going at him and he just stays seated, stays calm and says things like "get over it dear."

He has to win. And in tomorrow's highlights he will come out looking good again.

They just never learn do they.

[jaxie]

Gary owns them yet again.

I love how he never loses his temper. He has Edele and george going at him and he just stays seated, stays calm and says things like "get over it dear."

He has to win. And in tomorrow's highlights he will come out looking good again.

They just never learn do they.

Ultimately he doesn't want a fight but when he says 'calm down dear' it's heard as some kind of insult best left in Edele's head like 'you stupid bint'.

[joeysteele]

Edele has overall been better as to Gary than some in there, she also didn't nominate him this week either.
At least she is someone who says what she thinks and then moves on,even with the person she may have disagreed with.

That is a really good quality in my view.

[Jules2]

Edele has overall been better as to Gary than some in there, she also didn't nominate him this week either.
At least she is someone who says what she thinks and then moves on,even with the person she may have disagreed with.

That is a really good quality in my view.


I agree but she still sides with Dee and they take the mickey out of Gary. One instance when she said to James "Liar liar pants on fire" after Gary had said about Stephanie going. Now Gary could see/hear what she said. The office part, they were both giggling and making fun of him, once again he was there and he was watching them. If we look back there are so many things and tbh I think they have all been part of it. We all have to remember that he was told in the beginning by Sir James that the other HMs didnt like him. How cruel, Gary has been there all this time knowing that and trying to find out why and to make amends.

[rionablue]

I have nothing PERSONAL against Edele. I think she has a nice voice and I didn't know much about her before BB but what I don't like is the consistent inconsiderate behaviour by many housemates to one. Edele is a part of that and it can't be glossed over. Don't you see the harm she is doing to her own potential career with this? It's not about jumping on anyone, it's about common decency or the lack of it in that house. Her sister even gave her a veiled prompt about being nice to Gary in her full letter (not read on tonight's show but on the site) and she still didn't get it.

And once again everyone is hugging Edele and George is patronising Gary with a bit of a lecture.

With the exception of Audley when you look at the series on a whole Edele has been nicer than ANY of the other lot to Gary. That isn't a huge deal considering how vile they all have been to him but Edele is NOT harming her career by the way she has behaved in the house. There are viscious, vain and horrible people in there including Dee and James who far far deserve more criticism than Edele.

People were saying she was boring for the first week or so and every nice deed she has done in there has hardly been mentioned but even one little argument with Gary and people are jumping down her throat. Of the 8 of them that are left in there Audley Gary and Edele deserve to be in the top 3. None of the others should even get a sniff at it

[rionablue]

Edele has overall been better as to Gary than some in there, she also didn't nominate him this week either.
At least she is someone who says what she thinks and then moves on,even with the person she may have disagreed with.

That is a really good quality in my view.

PRECISELY. Glad at least one person sees Edele in that light Joey x

[rionablue]

I agree but she still sides with Dee and they take the mickey out of Gary. One instance when she said to James "Liar liar pants on fire" after Gary had said about Stephanie going. Now Gary could see/hear what she said. The office part, they were both giggling and making fun of him, once again he was there and he was watching them. If we look back there are so many things and tbh I think they have all been part of it. We all have to remember that he was told in the beginning by Sir James that the other HMs didnt like him. How cruel, Gary has been there all this time knowing that and trying to find out why and to make amends.

She didn't side with Dee in tonight's highlights show when Dee was bitching about his wives letter. Edele said that at least their loved ones were proud of them and that that was all that matters. Edele is her own person and has genuinely got on with everyone in the house. She took Lauren aside and heard what she had to say. She has tried in a lot of situations to calm the conflicts down and that is commendable.

[jaxie]

With the exception of Audley when you look at the series on a whole Edele has been nicer than ANY of the other lot to Gary. That isn't a huge deal considering how vile they all have been to him but Edele is NOT harming her career by the way she has behaved in the house. There are viscious, vain and horrible people in there including Dee and James who far far deserve more criticism than Edele.

People were saying she was boring for the first week or so and every nice deed she has done in there has hardly been mentioned but even one little argument with Gary and people are jumping down her throat. Of the 8 of them that are left in there Audley Gary and Edele deserve to be in the top 3. None of the others should even get a sniff at it

She really is harming her career. I wouldn't want to watch a show she is in or buy her music unless she turns this around in the last week and starts acting like a decent grown up. She didn't need to be the life and soul of the party. She just needed to be nice, and decent. She isn't doing herself favours. You are already a fan, I'm the public she needs to win over and she could have had me. I was completely indifferent to Audley in the beginning and his calm, sensible attitude has won me over. In fact I can't believe in the last week that I prefer Lauren to Edele. All it took was a couple of sparks of kindness.

Gary and Audley deserve to the top 2. Edele could do with going home and looking after her kids.

[rionablue]

She really is harming her career. I wouldn't want to watch a show she is in or buy her music unless she turns this around in the last week and starts acting like a decent grown up. She didn't need to be the life and soul of the party. She just needed to be nice, and decent. She isn't doing herself favours. You are already a fan, I'm the public she needs to win over and she could have had me. I was completely indifferent to Audley in the beginning and his calm, sensible attitude has won me over. In fact I can't believe in the last week that I prefer Lauren to Edele. All it took was a couple of sparks of kindness.

Gary and Audley deserve to the top 2. Edele could do with going home and looking after her kids.

Edele has been nice and decent to ALL of the housemates including Gary which is more than Lauren has been. Have you forgotten when Lauren tore strips off Gary in a fight last week and her bitching in the garden. She is all make up and getting pissed and saying stupid things.

Edele in the early days when there were fights with Gary and Frenchy involved took both of them aside and spoke to them to try and calm down the situations. She hasn't been holier than thou and has said some snide things I admit but in the grand scheme of things she is a far far better housemate than posey Lauren and it wouldn't be hard for her to be a nicer housemate than dreadful Dee. Edele isn't perfect but then she never professed herself to be. She kept to herself in the early days and slowly came out of her shell. She deserves a spot in the final much more than Dee, Lauren, Ricky and James

[the truth]

edele comes across as supernaturally shallow....all her chat is tedious , lacks any depth, all her points are petty

[jaxie]

Edele has been nice and decent to ALL of the housemates including Gary which is more than Lauren has been. Have you forgotten when Lauren tore strips off Gary in a fight last week and her bitching in the garden. She is all make up and getting pissed and saying stupid things.

Edele in the early days when there were fights with Gary and Frenchy involved took both of them aside and spoke to them to try and calm down the situations. She hasn't been holier than thou and has said some snide things I admit but in the grand scheme of things she is a far far better housemate than posey Lauren and it wouldn't be hard for her to be a nicer housemate than dreadful Dee. Edele isn't perfect but then she never professed herself to be. She kept to herself in the early days and slowly came out of her shell. She deserves a spot in the final much more than Dee, Lauren, Ricky and James
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-23-girly-gossips-pool
Edele says in the pool 'Gary is an easy target'. How do you interpret that?

Is she saying it's ok when she gets emotional to use him as an emotional verbal punchbag? I just don't get why that is ok. I am interested in your take on it.

[the truth]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-23-girly-gossips-pool
Edele says in the pool 'Gary is an easy target'. How do you interpret that?

Is she saying it's ok when she gets emotional to use him as an emotional verbal punchbag?

exactly, she may a small skinny little irish lady...but shes joined in the bullying several times....notice too her endless snidey comments, even with lauren this morning when theyd hugged and made up she said, were you sober when you said that? snide. shes plain nasty. she just hasnt had a chance to show it

[jaxie]

exactly, she may a small skinny little irish lady...but shes joined in the bullying several times....notice too her endless snidey comments, even with lauren this morning when theyd hugged and made up she said, were you sober when you said that? snide. shes plain nasty. she just hasnt had a chance to show it

I don't know if she is plain nasty or not but I'm not getting this paragon of nice riona is selling me.

[rionablue]

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-23-girly-gossips-pool
Edele says in the pool 'Gary is an easy target'. How do you interpret that?

Is she saying it's ok when she gets emotional to use him as an emotional verbal punchbag? I just don't get why that is ok. I am interested in your take on it.

I took it as she saying he was an easy target because of his hygiene, manners and mannerisms that housemates seem to find irritating therefore if someone wants to pick a fight he is an easy target for them to do it. I still think that of the lot that's left in there she has the most affection for Gary and yes they have had their banter and she might have said a few hurtful things but I know that Gary loves Edele also. She is the only one of the younger housemates that has seriously made some kind of effort with him

[rionablue]

exactly, she may a small skinny little irish lady...but shes joined in the bullying several times....notice too her endless snidey comments, even with lauren this morning when theyd hugged and made up she said, were you sober when you said that? snide. shes plain nasty. she just hasnt had a chance to show it
God you love the word 'bully' you must have said it a hundred times or more. Edele is NOT a bully. Her snidey remarks as you call them are not ENDLESS. Yes she has made a few but so has Gary who seems to be the saint of the forums. I like him but he hasn't been all sweetness and light either

[Jules2]

and then they all crowd around Edele hugging her...arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it was Dee who asked them to be quiet mind you I thought it was very condescending. They are possibly trying to get Gary in a bad light, I thought they would......James stirring the pot as usual.....

[Jules2]

She didn't side with Dee in tonight's highlights show when Dee was bitching about his wives letter. Edele said that at least their loved ones were proud of them and that that was all that matters. Edele is her own person and has genuinely got on with everyone in the house. She took Lauren aside and heard what she had to say. She has tried in a lot of situations to calm the conflicts down and that is commendable.

I agree with that one bit but other than that she has been with Dee.

[Ace]

So talking loud and interrupting others peoples conversations isn't rude to edele or george.

Looks like edele is still trying to be more interesting and get more air time. It ain't working!

[ThriceShy]

Edele just strikes me as sly and snide.

The way she said "liar liar pants on fire" under her breath and Lauren saying that Edele suddenly spoke to her more on nominations day.

[erinp5]

She admits Gary is an easy target (2.20 in )
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http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_listing_thumbnail/public/Easy-Target.jpg?itok=ZYMne5Tx

[the truth]

yes shes targeted gary with the group bullies for weeks

[delta]

Edelle is now clearly playing the 'game' and is trying for all her worth to get 'air' time. It hasn't gone unnoticed how 3 of the women have turned the water works on this week to gain attention and a sympathy vote.

I can see right through Edele, she is nowhere near as 'nice' as (a) she thinks she is an (B) how some viewers thing she may be.

The whole treatment of Gary is tantamount to group bullying . In the clip, there were a few failures. James Jordan to be able to hold an audience with his boring, monotone, condescending oration. Edele for being so fcuking rude trying to steal the limelight, when someone is telling the tale you either listen or move slightly away or perhaps even talk at a lower volume so that you don't steal the spot light. The biggest failure was Dee and James Jordan who initially sided with Gary but threw him under the bus once again.


House full of two faced, self centred, egotistic, bad mannered, tw@Ts.

[rusticgal]

With the exception of Audley when you look at the series on a whole Edele has been nicer than ANY of the other lot to Gary. That isn't a huge deal considering how vile they all have been to him but Edele is NOT harming her career by the way she has behaved in the house. There are viscious, vain and horrible people in there including Dee and James who far far deserve more criticism than Edele.

People were saying she was boring for the first week or so and every nice deed she has done in there has hardly been mentioned but even one little argument with Gary and people are jumping down her throat. Of the 8 of them that are left in there Audley Gary and Edele deserve to be in the top 3. None of the others should even get a sniff at it


I disagree. I have found Edele quite 2faced. She has been reasonable with Gary but made snide comments here and there behind his back...(liar,liar pants on fire as an example).... She is now just badgering for the self righteous James style argument over something really petty.

I don't like her and she has done nothing...just coming to life in the last week by her own admission....too little too late..

[JTM45]

Yeah, i agree!
Edele is nice to Gary to further her own game and has trouble holding the digs back most of the time! She's said some very sly and unfair comments about him, usually just out of his hearing range!
Another one who probably thinks Dee's a twat but finds it easier just to go along with the little Dee, Pricky & George clique because it makes for an easier life in the house (and you get the Dee cooking and clothes washing service thrown into the deal!).

And her Irish accent is weak and quite watered-down compared to Ashleigh's beautiful strong Irish accent too!

She could have been a good housemate but she let herself down badly!

[Cherie]

Yeah, i agree!
Edele is nice to Gary to further her own game and has trouble holding the digs back most of the time! She's said some very sly and unfair comments about him, usually just out of his hearing range!
Another one who probably thinks Dee's a twat but finds it easier just to go along with the little Dee, Pricky & George clique because it makes for an easier life in the house (and you get the Dee cooking and clothes washing service thrown into the deal!).

And her Irish accent is weak and quite watered-down compared to Ashleigh's beautiful strong Irish accent too!

She could have been a good housemate but she let herself down badly!


With regard to the accent, Edele has a Dublin accent whilst Ashleigh's is Northern Irish.

I don't believe either James or Dee were siding with Gary at the beginning they were mocking him.

[Northern Monkey]

Storm in a teacup. Not really an argument. Just a minor thing that they sorted out easily.

^

[bots]

So she's heterophobic?... I've seen some ridiculous accusations thrown around on here, but that just takes the biscuit :joker:

haa haa, I've got this right, haven't I, it is a game show? :joker:

[poppsywoppsy]

Edele, for me can be nice to Gary when it is one on one but when the group gets involved, she mostly supports the groups arguments.

Then she lectures Gary.

I don't like her, she sways with the wind, neither one thing or the other, a foot in each camp but is supremely boring whilst doing it.

[rionablue]

Yeah, i agree!
Edele is nice to Gary to further her own game and has trouble holding the digs back most of the time! She's said some very sly and unfair comments about him, usually just out of his hearing range!
Another one who probably thinks Dee's a twat but finds it easier just to go along with the little Dee, Pricky & George clique because it makes for an easier life in the house (and you get the Dee cooking and clothes washing service thrown into the deal!).

And her Irish accent is weak and quite watered-down compared to Ashleigh's beautiful strong Irish accent too!

She could have been a good housemate but she let herself down badly!

Edele is from southern Ireland (Dublin) and that is the Dublin accent. Ashleigh was from Northern Ireland which is part of the Uk and her accent was obviously a Northern Ireland accent. Even if you don't like Edele criticising her accent is MOST UNFAIR. People talk in the accent of their region and why the Hell should they change it just cos they on big brother??????????

[jaxie]

Edele is from southern Ireland (Dublin) and that is the Dublin accent. Ashleigh was from Northern Ireland which is part of the Uk and her accent was obviously a Northern Ireland accent. Even if you don't like Edele criticising her accent is MOST UNFAIR. People talk in the accent of their region and why the Hell should they change it just cos they on big brother??????????
I have to agree that Edeles accent is nothing to do with any comments about her time in the house and anyone bringing things like that up are over stepping the mark. So are any remarks about her liking gay people or being gay. None of our business.

[Ammi]

Anyone who doesn't like Edele will probably say that but Edele DOES like Gary and he likes her. It was a bit of a disagreement but as it said on twitter all was well afterwards. Gary can hear fine most of the time. I like Gary and I like Edele. But both aren't perfect and I only understand forum members jumping on housemates that GENUINELY hurt or belittle Gary. That is fair if its true.

..yeah I agree with that Riona, it just seemed to be one of those things that becomes a bigger thing than it should have been and wasn't really a case of 'who was wrong'....

[Jules2]

With regard to the accent, Edele has a Dublin accent whilst Ashleigh's is Northern Irish.

I don't believe either James or Dee were siding with Gary at the beginning they were mocking him.

Cherie I am inclined to agree as didnt Edelle tell James to stop stirring, she said it with a laugh but continued to bait Gary. Both Dee and James were soooooooooooo condescending and maing fun in their own way. Cant understand though as Gary was making the effort to find out about James and the talk was with him. Did they set it up, Edelle and Ricci or was it unintentional. They are all literally horrible.

[Jules2]

I have to agree that Edeles accent is nothing to do with any comments about her time in the house and anyone bringing things like that up are over stepping the mark. So are any remarks about her liking gay people or being gay. None of our business.


Hi Jaxie, I thankyou for your request I hope I have replied to it properly as I do not seem to be able to the right portion of my box open. I do get emails though so take care love.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:umm2:


That hug

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Edele talking to much? lol Now I know Gary is full of ****.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

In a thread about Gary and Edele arguing im surprised people posted every video bar the actual argument lol.

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[mary poppins]

Gary really is a nasty person.and one of the biggest bull****terd ever. He knows exactly what he is doing in there. He blames it all on his hearing..if he'd just shut up and stop interrupting he'd hear everything.
He has played the victim since day one

[Dollface]

Anyone else really going off Edele recently? I'm finding her so annoying lately :suspect:

[erinp5]

While talking about last night's argument with Edele, Dee and Gary come to an understanding.


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[smileymummy]

So gary strikes once again and im sure all his fans will be ecusing it saying hes being bullied! the man is vile!

[Ammi]

While talking about last night's argument with Edele, Dee and Gary come to an understanding.


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..Dee can barely conceal her hatred of Gary but always making a deal about making him a coffee and taking it out to him makes her the 'bigger person'...and when Gary mentioned Edele, Dee brought it straight back to herself...'I thought, make him a coffee and forget about it, it's not worth it..'...yeah we get it Dee...WE GET IT DEE, you're the bigger person....strangely though Lauren and Audley are just 'sucking up' when they're considerate of him....wish we could all be big like Dee..:idc:...




..bur just in case the 679789 cameras didn't pick up on it....she has it on repeat...I made you a coffee, Gary....nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..../sweet..

[jaxie]

So gary strikes once again and im sure all his fans will be ecusing it saying hes being bullied! the man is vile!

:sleep:

[Pincho Paxton]

Did you see the combination of emotions flip, and flop like a figure 8 between two whales?

I did! :joker:

[erinp5]

Did you see the combination of emotions flip, and flop like a figure 8 between two whales?I did! :joker:

Brilliant :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Gary really is a nasty person.and one of the biggest bull****terd ever. He knows exactly what he is doing in there. He blames it all on his hearing..if he'd just shut up and stop interrupting he'd hear everything.
He has played the victim since day one

Gary is so very misunderstood. He is a Star Child, struggling to convey the love and kindness in his heart because of the hostile environment he is in. He wishes me to point out to you that the final of this show was pre-ordained by cosmic forces greater than you or I.

J - James
A - Audley
G- Gary
G - George
E - Edele
D - Dee

JAGGED ˈdʒagɪd - adjective- pointed, ragged, craggy, rough, uneven, irregular, broken.

Yes, sister, Jagged - uneven, irregular and broken; a fractured house in other words, devoid of harmony, peace and understanding. The great celestial being knew that Star Child Gary was needed to bestow balance and tolerance. So take off those blinkers of bias sister, open up that dark heart and rejoice that something greater than you or I is guiding our destiny, and vote for Star Child Gary to win. May The Farce Be With You. :wavey:

[Jules2]

Edele, for me can be nice to Gary when it is one on one but when the group gets involved, she mostly supports the groups arguments.

Then she lectures Gary.

I don't like her, she sways with the wind, neither one thing or the other, a foot in each camp but is supremely boring whilst doing it.

I will never forget how Dee accuses Gary of making a fuss about being nominated and going around to clarify why, then not letting George answer for himself. Then Edelle having the nerve to ask Audley why he didnt nominate Gary instead of her!!! Just shows the mentality of the HMs with the exception of Audley and eventually Lauren. They all clubbed together as Gary was and is the easy target. This by her own ignorant admission.

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=Ammi;7258189]..Dee can barely conceal her hatred of Gary but always making a deal about making him a coffee and taking it out to him makes her the 'bigger person'...and when Gary mentioned Edele, Dee brought it straight back to herself...'I thought, make him a coffee and forget about it, it's not worth it..'...yeah we get it Dee...WE GET IT DEE, you're the bigger person....strangely though Lauren and Audley are just 'sucking up' when they're considerate of him....wish we could all be big like Dee..:idc:...


Easy - just lie on a tatty sofa all day stuffing yourself with free food the state's paid for, swigging endless cups of tea the state's paid for, and chain smoke fags all day which the state's paid for. Do this for about 4 years and if you're not big enough, you can always pad yourself out with over £13,000 of cash you've thieved which the state eventually paid for. Easy when you know how. :wavey: