If fat cow Dee wins,I,m never watching big brother again

[icecakes]

punters are reportedly putting a load on Dee to win, according to bookies.dont like the sound of that, the bookies are spoiling everything.:shrug:

[Pete.]

Better than Gary

[Liam-]

The bookies finally come in handy! They know where it's at

[Xtopher]

She won't.

[Jarrod]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

[ThriceShy]

Erm.....what do the bookies have to do with this? they have absolutely no effect on the result whatsoever.

If Dee doesn't get enough votes then she won't win.

Unless the suggestion is that big gamblers are mass voting. If that is the case then the votes should be discounted. They definitely have the means of doing that.

[ThriceShy]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

Is it an inaccurate statement?

[Jarrod]

Is it an inaccurate statement?

In my eyes, yes it is.

[Jarrod]

Erm.....what do the bookies have to do with this? they have absolutely no effect on the result whatsoever.

If Dee doesn't get enough votes then she won't win.

Unless the suggestion is that big gamblers are mass voting. If that is the case then the votes should be discounted. They definitely have the means of doing that.

They don't have any way of discounting votes from people who place bets. They'd have to track down thousands of telephone numbers or app users.

[Pincho Paxton]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

Yes, very rude! It's not fair to the cows! :nono:

[Jarrod]

Yes, very rude! It's not fair to the cows! :nono:

:umm2:

[waterhog]

i think the only way she will win is if she comes into diary room and says she is playing gary by making up with him. that would be classic - the actor being acted on. and by someone unemployed.

[Kazanne]

It would be a travesty if she won

[ThriceShy]

In my eyes, yes it is.

Which bit is wrong?

[Jarrod]

Which bit is wrong?

For heavens sake. I'm not even going to get into this argument.

[joeysteele]

It would be a travesty if she won

It would indeed Kazanne,now she would be one of the worst ever winners of any series.

[Kazanne]

It would indeed Kazanne,now she would be one of the worst ever winners of any series.

The worst Joey,the worst.:wavey:

[ThriceShy]

This^^

Just because the bookies have a favourite, it doesn't mean that person will win lmao!

It has been amusing to watch the forums over the last 14 years, as people have no clue how bookmakers odds work. They get told year after year and yet still come on the following year saying the same things.

Here's a quick crash course for the uninitiated:

Bookmakers do not know who will win an event. They can make an educated guess and they set the initial odds in a book according to that guess. But they make the book in such a way that, in general, they won't lose. It is called an "over round" book. Any result winning should see a profit for the bookie.

Then, after the initial book is formed, the odds then shift according to the bets placed.

Here is an example. If I walked in ladbrokes tomorrow and put a £10,000 bet on Ricci to win at 50-1, then Ricci would immediately become the odds-on favourite, because making him favourite would be the only way the bookies could attempt to keep the book profitable.

It is a simplistic example but it is the fundamental point. The bookies know nothing. Just remember the night Ulrika won and the bookies had her to leave first.

[ThriceShy]

For heavens sake. I'm not even going to get into this argument.

It isn't an argument. I simply asked which part of the "fat cow" statement was wrong. You declared it was inaccurate.

So either you think Dee isn't fat or you think she isn't a cow. The fact you won't further elaborate on your position, speaks volumes.

[Jamesy]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

Agree.

I don't like Dee myself. But throwing around remarks like "fat cow" is really rude.

[ThriceShy]

Agree.

I don't like Dee myself. But throwing around remarks like "fat cow" is really rude.

Is there a rule here that we can't be rude to housemates?

[Jamesy]

Is there a rule here that we can't be rude to housemates?

Nope, I didn't say there was a rule. Just voicing my opinion.

[icecakes]

If punters are putting a lot of money on her to win , then they are going to throw a lot of votes her way,It would! be a travesty If she won, If she,s the best britain has to offer, god help us

[Cal.]

She won't win tho

[mary poppins]

punters are reportedly putting a load on Dee to win, according to bookies.dont like the sound of that, the bookies are spoiling everything.:shrug:

What a nasty title!

[Jarrod]

It isn't an argument. I simply asked which part of the "fat cow" statement was wrong. You declared it was inaccurate.

So either you think Dee isn't fat or you think she isn't a cow. The fact you won't further elaborate on your position, speaks volumes.

Excuse me? I said that calling Dee a "fat cow" was rude, because it is. Nobody wants to be called that, especially someone who isn't around defend themselves. Dee is neither of those things, so the OP's thread title in my eyes is rude.

[Forgetmenot]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

Thank you for saying that. The other day far worse things said and I felt so angry, disgusted, shocked, you name it, I reported it. Just not acceptable behaviour.can be a lot of reasons for being over weight, not just food.

[Cal.]

Excuse me? I said that calling Dee a "fat cow" was rude, because it is. Nobody wants to be called that, especially someone who isn't around defend themselves. Dee is neither of those things, so the OP's thread title in my eyes is rude.

True tbh.

[abhorson]

I will never say never again after the bully Helen won, but really can''t see Dee winning.

[Pincho Paxton]

Yes! Leave Ermintrude alone!

[icecakes]

Agree.

I don't like Dee myself. But throwing around remarks like "fat cow" is really rude.

Like she,s rude to gary you mean, I,ll bet she,s been called a lot worse than that.

[ThriceShy]

Well thanks for the insight...! All I said was that just because a bookie has a favourite, it doesn't mean that they will win...

I know. I just expanded on it for the benefit of the people who seem to think Dee will win just because her odds are dropping.

I agree with you.

[abhorson]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

Is an obese person any better ?

[Jarrod]

I'm shocked at some of the posts from newer members this series. Appalling.

[abhorson]

I'm shocked at some of the posts from newer members this series. Appalling.

Is Dee obese.?

[ThriceShy]

Excuse me?

You're excused.

I said that calling Dee a "fat cow" was rude, because it is.

I disagree. I think it is an accurate statement that is much tamer than the bile that Dee has aimed at people.

Nobody wants to be called that, especially someone who isn't around defend themselves.


If you don't want to be judged then don't enter a popularity contest.

Nobody here can speak for Dee. She might not mind people having their opinion.
Dee is neither of those things, so the OP's thread title in my eyes is rude.

Wait....you are actually suggesting that Dee isn't fat???

[Liam-]

If you don't want to be judged then don't enter a popularity contest.

Nobody here can speak for Dee. She might not mind people having their opinion.




People enter reality shows to be judged on their personality, not on the way they look, this isn't Britain's Next Top Model.

[abhorson]

You're excused.



I disagree. I think it is an accurate statement that is much tamer than the bile that Dee has aimed at people.




If you don't want to be judged then don't enter a popularity contest.

Nobody here can speak for Dee. She might not mind people having their opinion.


Wait....you are actually suggesting that Dee isn't fat???

Aye. Just obese was what is PC. Ie fat.

[ThriceShy]

People enter reality shows to be judged on their personality, not on the way they look, this isn't Britain's Next Top Model.

I can judge them however I like.

They are happy to judge Gary for his disabilities.

And anyway, being fat does reveal Dee's laziness and greed. Not to mention that the word "cow" IS a judgement of Dee's personality.

Did you criticise Edele when she called Dee's caller a cow?

[abhorson]

People enter reality shows to be judged on their personality, not on the way they look, this isn't Britain's Next Top Model.

This is the most silliest comment of the night.

That show is a reality show.

[Liam-]

This is the most silliest comment of the night.

That show is a reality show.

where the winner is chosen based on how people like their personality, not on who's the prettiest or the skinniest.

[kirklancaster]

How incredibly rude of you to call her a fat cow.

I agree - leave the 2 faced, back-stabbing truffle Pig bitch alone.:cheer2::cheer2::dance::dance::dance::dance: :dance::dance:

[abhorson]

where the winner is chosen based on how people like their personality, not on who's the prettiest or the skinniest.


Again, are you for real.

Almost everyone in the world goes on appearance, then personality.

[ThriceShy]

where the winner is chosen based on how people like their personality, not on who's the prettiest or the skinniest.

I'm judging Dee on her personality. She is a cow.

Edele called Dee's caller a cow so I can call them cows.

[kirklancaster]

I will never say never again after the bully Helen won, but really can''t see Dee winning.

The floods of money for Truffle Pig Dee and her shortening odds to win is pure Baloney. I think people are confusing her odds to be Top Woman, for which she has hardened to odds on. Her odds to win are pretty static at around 10/1 - which is good news considering she was once clear favourite to win. Gary is odds on to win at around 8/13 with Buffoon Nobody George second favourite at around 9/2. :wavey:

[Liam-]

Again, are you for real.

Almost everyone in the world goes on appearance, then personality.

The way someone looks shouldn't decide how popular they are, that's just ridiculous..

[ThriceShy]

The floods of money for Truffle Pig Dee and her shortening odds to win is pure Baloney. I think people are confusing her odds to be Top Woman, for which she has hardened to odds on. Her odds to win are pretty static at around 10/1 - which is good news considering she was once clear favourite to win. Gary is odds on to win at around 8/13 with Buffoon Nobody George second favourite at around 9/2. :wavey:

Audley is the best value bet. I still think he could sneak it.

[ThriceShy]

The way someone looks shouldn't decide how popular they are, that's just ridiculous..

What about the "cow" bit?

[Liam-]

What about the "cow" bit?

If you think she's a cow then you think she's a cow, you're entitled to your opinion.

[kirklancaster]

The way someone looks shouldn't decide how popular they are, that's just ridiculous..

No one is judging her on her appearance, there's really no need - her many abhorrent character traits are ample reasons to indict her as a cow. In the colloquial usage of course. :cheer2:

[ThriceShy]

If you think she's a cow then you think she's a cow, you're entitled to your opinion.

But I am not entitled to point out she is fat?

How do you think she became fat? It was from sitting on her arse eating. I can judge that if I like.

Just like people judged Frenchy for what she had done to her own face with plastic surgery.

[abhorson]

The way someone looks shouldn't decide how popular they are, that's just ridiculous..

In a perdect world, no. But personality, talent and looks are 95% of the time, a winning combination for viewers of reality shows.

[abhorson]

She is fat and she is a cow.

[Liam-]

But I am not entitled to point out she is fat?

How do you think she became fat? It was from sitting on her arse eating. I can judge that if I like.

Just like people judged Frenchy for what she had done to her own face with plastic surgery.

Has anyone said you're not entitled to? the majority of people who have commented had a problem with the way you pointed it out.

[ThriceShy]

She is fat and she is a cow.

She's ugly and ginger too, with terrible teeth. She is like a walking game of unsightly bingo.

[Marsh.]

:facepalm:

[ThriceShy]

Has anyone said you're not entitled to? the majority of people who have commented had a problem with the way you pointed it out.

I didn't point it out.

And yes people have said we shouldn't be entitled to. One poster said he was even reporting posts that called Dee names.

[Liam-]

I can't cope with this argument anymore, it's not doing anyone here any good, seeya :laugh:

[Jamesy]

:umm2: The attitudes in here.

It's like reading a thread on DS.

[ThriceShy]

I can't cope with this argument anymore, it's not doing anyone here any good, seeya :laugh:

Quitting while behind is sensible.

[sungrass]

:umm2: The attitudes in here.

It's like reading thread on DS.

I know its pretty disappointing - probably the same lot complaining that Helen shouldn't have won for being a bully.

[Sophiee]

I don't even understand how she survived tonight or what sort of people are voting for her D: I'm worried she'll come higher than expected in the finale.

[bots]

I don't even understand how she survived tonight or what sort of people are voting for her D: I'm worried she'll come higher than expected in the finale.

She is apparently very popular, so is George. No idea why

[ThriceShy]

I don't even understand how she survived tonight or what sort of people are voting for her D: I'm worried she'll come higher than expected in the finale.

The problem with Dee, and I've said this before, is that, although we can see she is a vile mouth-breathing chav, the vast majority of the voting demographic can relate to her.

She will get the council estate vote.

[Forgetmenot]

i think the only way she will win is if she comes into diary room and says she is playing gary by making up with him. that would be classic - the actor being acted on. and by someone unemployed.

Actually old bean, she is employed.she is paid to be in there. Good for her!:wavey:

[ThriceShy]

Actually old bean, she is employed.she is paid to be in there. Good for her!:wavey:

That depression cleared up quick.

[Forgetmenot]

The problem with Dee, and I've said this before, is that, although we can see she is a vile mouth-breathing chav, the vast majority of the voting demographic can relate to her.

She will get the council estate vote.

Are there any left? I thought Thatcher, the milk snatcher, sold them off..

[Northern Monkey]

Judging by the British publics sense of humour when voting for BB15's winner.....It could happen.Bunch of jokers:joker:

[kirklancaster]

That depression cleared up quick.

LMAO!! Brilliant.:cheer2::cheer2::dance::dance:

[Sophiee]

The problem with Dee, and I've said this before, is that, although we can see she is a vile mouth-breathing chav, the vast majority of the voting demographic can relate to her.

She will get the council estate vote.
true. I guess the chav type of housemates get voted for, just look at helen.

[icecakes]

Actually old bean, she is employed.she is paid to be in there. Good for her!:wavey:

Yes great isn't it , a benefit scrounger,who stole £13 000 of her employer to feed her boyfriends drug habit, suposed to be suffering from depression but shows no sign of it, goes on tv bragging how she milks the system,and sits on her lazy arse all day

[kistar]

If punters are putting a lot of money on her to win , then they are going to throw a lot of votes her way,It would! be a travesty If she won, If she,s the best britain has to offer, god help us

I really think this might happen to be honest.

[smileymummy]

Yes great isn't it , a benefit scrounger,who stole £13 000 of her employer to feed her boyfriends drug habit, suposed to be suffering from depression but shows no sign of it, goes on tv bragging how she milks the system,and sits on her lazy arse all day

Funny this comes up in every thread, gary may have had the charges dropped for beating his wife but it doesnt mean he diddnt do it! OR SLAPPING ANOTHER WOMAN!

[icecakes]

Funny this comes up in every thread, gary may have had the charges dropped for beating his wife but it doesnt mean he diddnt do it! OR SLAPPING ANOTHER WOMAN!

Whats that got to do with her being a scumbag:shrug:

[CaudleHalbard]

If fat cow Dee wins,I,m never watching big brother again

We have this every time there's a BB/CCB. :joker:

There are always people who say "Never again". I don't really believe any of them.

Who cares who wins CBB, anyway? There's no prize money. They all get paid their (huge) fee whether they are winners or they are the first to be evicted.

[icecakes]

We have this every time there's a BB/CCB. :joker:

There are always people who say "Never again". I don't really believe any of them.

Who cares who wins CBB, anyway? There's no prize money. They all get paid their (huge) fee whether they are winners or they are the first to be evicted.

True, but its the fact that the likes of her are classed as a celebrity:nono:

[bots]

We have this every time there's a BB/CCB. :joker:

There are always people who say "Never again". I don't really believe any of them.

Who cares who wins CBB, anyway? There's no prize money. They all get paid their (huge) fee whether they are winners or they are the first to be evicted.

Oh my, I think I agree :laugh:

Only thing i will say is that i am totally tired of conflict dominated BB's, and I won't be watching further series if that theme continues. Enough is enough

[Jules2]

Oh my, I think I agree :laugh:

Only thing i will say is that i am totally tired of conflict dominated BB's, and I won't be watching further series if that theme continues. Enough is enough

I agree it has got to bitter for me, it just puts negativity into the air and there are far better things to do than to support such biased actions mostly orchestrated by BB itself. It is not a good show anymore and should be taken off altogether.

[Jules2]

I really think this might happen to be honest.

It may have been a flash in the pan her odds seem to be drifting, she is in 4th position with Edele last and then James out 5th if it stays true to Oddschecker.

[Kazanne]

Funny this comes up in every thread, gary may have had the charges dropped for beating his wife but it doesnt mean he diddnt do it! OR SLAPPING ANOTHER WOMAN!

Well he wasn't charged with anything,but because YOU think he did it ,it must be true,it may also be a couple of bitter women wanting some revenge,or of course it could also be a load of bollox which it probably is,out of interest which rag top ran with this story as I've not seen anything in the reputable papers.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think James 2nd Gary winner.

I would be so pissed off if a woman who has spent her life sitting in her house on benefits wins a show for sitting in a house and getting paid thousands for it.

Hopefully everyone who has had to work all their lives will boycott her.

[Liam-]

I think James 2nd Gary winner.

I would be so pissed off if a woman who has spent her life sitting in her house on benefits wins a show for sitting in a house and getting paid thousands for it.

Hopefully everyone who has had to work all their lives will boycott her.

She hasn't spent her life sitting on benefits, she worked for years before she went onto benefits, i don't see what difference her being on benefits makes when it comes to winning a tv show? :shrug:

[Suze]

Funny this comes up in every thread, gary may have had the charges dropped for beating his wife but it doesnt mean he diddnt do it! OR SLAPPING ANOTHER WOMAN!

What has Gary got to do with the subject of this thread? And what has whatever certain papers may be publishing have to do with what goes on in the CBB house unless the housemates themselves bring it up? Because the whole point of BB/CBB or so I might wrongly have thought then, was entertainment value of housemates in the CBB house not out of it? :conf: The thing that irks me most with housemates such as Dee is they are not Celebs imho and don't deserve to even be in the CBB house let alone stand a chance of winning.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

She hasn't spent her life sitting on benefits, she worked for years before she went onto benefits, i don't see what difference her being on benefits makes when it comes to winning a tv show? :shrug:

She spent years on benefits.

Wasn't she claiming disability or sickness just 5 months ago and now shes in the BB house getting paid thousands?

She seems healthy enough to work to me.

I just don't like seeing people who scrounge off the system getting rewarded, sorry but when ive had to work 18 hour shifts for 6 weeks with no day off it does kind of piss me off. When I was hit by a car and couldn't work for almost 2 months the benefits system wouldn't give me a penny so I would love to know what health issues she has.

[Liam-]

She spent years on benefits.

Wasn't she claiming disability or sickness just 5 months ago and now shes in the BB house getting paid thousands?

She seems healthy enough to work to me.

I just don't like seeing people who scrounge off the system getting rewarded, sorry but when ive had to work 18 hour shifts for 6 weeks with no day off it does kind of piss me off.

She was yes, but what relevance is that to her on this show?

She was yes, just like Linda Nolan was before she went in, but Linda was on benefits right up until she went in.

She wasn't working because she was diagnosed with depression, that's not something you see from the outside.

So she's a scrounger because she had to rely on the government? I will never understand that state of mind, anyone could have to go on benefits at any given time for any number of reasons, it doesn't make them any less of a person than anyone else :shrug:

[kirklancaster]

Well he wasn't charged with anything,but because YOU think he did it ,it must be true,it may also be a couple of bitter women wanting some revenge,or of course it could also be a load of bollox which it probably is,out of interest which rag top ran with this story as I've not seen anything in the reputable papers.

Succinctly put. This person obviously is in command of more facts than the investigating officers and American Judicial System. :joker::joker:

[Beso]

Such a mature and non reactionary original post title.

[icecakes]

I think James 2nd Gary winner.

I would be so pissed off if a woman who has spent her life sitting in her house on benefits wins a show for sitting in a house and getting paid thousands for it.

Hopefully everyone who has had to work all their lives will boycott her.

agree:clap1:

[Niamh.]

I think James 2nd Gary winner.

I would be so pissed off if a woman who has spent her life sitting in her house on benefits wins a show for sitting in a house and getting paid thousands for it.

Hopefully everyone who has had to work all their lives will boycott her.

Well you can't deny she's experienced for the job :hehe:

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Well you can't deny she's experienced for the job :hehe:

Haha very true.

[Robodog]

She'll never win

But the bookies might earn a few bob from people betting on her to win.

[icecakes]

bit on the side are doing ther best,they never say a bad word about her,just singing her praises how she's mothering them all, I'd mother a gorilla if it got me a load of money.:joker::joker:

[hijaxers]

What about the "cow" bit?

She's got mighty big udders !

[icecakes]

She's got mighty big udders !

wonder if they do bras in that size:joker:

[kirklancaster]

wonder if they do bras in that size:joker:

I heard a rumour that she only has small tits - that's her shoplifting bra!:joker::joker::joker:

Audley 2nd, Gary To Win - All The rest Belong In A Bin. :dance::dance::cheer2::cheer2:

[icecakes]

I heard a rumour that she only has small tits - that's her shoplifting bra!:joker::joker::joker:

Audley 2nd, Gary To Win - All The rest Belong In A Bin. :dance::dance::cheer2::cheer2:

Your a poet and dont know it:cheer2::cheer2: