Starting on Gary AGAIN

[Josy]

gl3Pkw_WNNc

[the truth]

notice how the vile shallow bully brad pitt of twatness soon ran away when audley started defending gary against james vile bullying and lies.....the people voting fo rjames must be deranged

[abhorson]

I thought he was starting to be OK. But at then end of the show had a dig at Gary and Audley again.

Spots have not changed.

[jaxie]

Gah this man! Who votes for him?! Just saw a clip I can't link on my tablet but James says Ricci is a nice guy and Gary says yes he has gone now and James says I'd rather you would have gone and walks off calling Gary rude.:shrug:

[rusticgal]

James cannot handle it when his friends go can he...the shallow minded twat thinks Ricci should have stayed cos he is 'good looking'... FFS we want personality which Ricci did not have.
He can't help having a dig at Gary...Gary speaks the truth...Ricci=Boring :cheer2:

[abhorson]

Ah, it is not in this video where Jame's mentioned the Gary contract dig and the Audley dig.

[jaxie]

Oh snap. I just saw that. Wtf is that mans problem.

[rusticgal]

The guy is an utter wanker...

The bores went tonight...now let's see James go out to massive boos...we have all seen he is not a good judge of character.

Gary or Audley to win...but Gary should take the crown. The rest can bog off.

[the truth]

The guy is an utter wanker...

The bores went tonight...now let's see James go out to massive boos...we have all seen he is not a good judge of character.

Gary or Audley to win...but Gary should take the crown. The rest can bog off.

agreed. this lot of scumbags are the worst housemates ive ever seen. without gary i wouldnt have given this show 2 minutes of my precious time. its embarassing this legend has to even live in a building with such evil bullying shallow vein petty loathsome scum

[Pincho Paxton]

Ricci was the most boring. James thinks BB is about good looks?

[Vicky.]

Ricci was the most boring. James thinks BB is about good looks?

Ah yes, that would explain why David left first then... :crazy:

[rusticgal]

Ricci was the most boring. James thinks BB is about good looks?

Shallow people... Sums James up completely.

[ThriceShy]

Unbelivable isn't it.

When Pricci stood up and said to gary that he is a bad role model to his child, James sat smirking and giggling.

When Gary says "he was voted most boring" just to try to explain why ricci left, James goes mad.

How does that work?

[Josy]

Yeah but the thing is Gary was saying 'He was voted the most boring' and he really was, in Todays task as far as I know.

[lissydoll]

I can't believe these vile people get away with treating Gary like this. Everything he says is jumped on! I really hope we get it right and Gary or audley win because I would be ashamed if any of the others won.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think gaRy fans are at some point going to have to come to terms with the overwhelming hm consensus that he is one big fat fake fcuk

[jet]

Gah this man! Who votes for him?! Just saw a clip I can't link on my tablet but James says Ricci is a nice guy and Gary says yes he has gone now and James says I'd rather you would have gone and walks off calling Gary rude.:shrug:

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

[the truth]

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

thats exactly what DID happen when frenchy left? james celebrated

[erinp5]

James is wanting a fight tonight .if it's not Gary then he goes for Audley.

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[erinp5]

Gary Busey and James Jordan clashed in the Celebrity Big Brother house tonight after the latest eviction.



Back on the weekend, the remaining CBB housemates nominated for one final time and all of the housemates ended up facing the axe.

In tonight’s live show, host Emma Willis revealed that Ricci Guarnaccio and Lauren Goodger had received the fewest votes and would be leaving together.

The result had shocked the house with Dee Kelly shouting “No, No, No!” in disbelief.

After the pair had left the house, James reassured Dee: “He’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever met, he’s going to be fine.”

“Can you believe out of everyone them two went together?” George said.

“I’m shocked about her because of how many people she’s got on Twitter, 1.3 million is a s**t load of people,” James admitted.



“I think this show has broken the record, I think six million are watching the show, that’ll eclipse 1.3 million,” replied Audley, over estimating the CBB viewership by a good 5 million viewers.

James went on: “I’m shocked about him [Ricci] though, he’s such a nice guy, he’s such a nice kid, he’s good looking…”

“But he got voted the most boring,” Gary interrupted, referring to the latest task that saw viewer opinions revealed to the housemates. “He’s gone,the rest is history,” Gary added.

“I know he’s gone Gary but I’d have much preferred you went, but there you go,” James snapped. “******ing rude man, unbelievable.

“It’s unbelievable. Sheesh.”

CBB continues nightly on Channel 5 with the final this Friday night.


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[bots]

James is completely deluded, and it seems that Dee and George may be catching it too

[joeysteele]

It has to be the Strictly Come Dancing army that are voting for James in the main, I am surprised he has amde it this far.

He really is the most patronising and condescending person ever. When he said he understood Gary's brain and hearing problems, even I got riled, I hate it when people say they 'know' your situation when they cannot possibly do so.

James has definitely been entertaining but for all the wrong reasons, other than his constant getting at Gary and then winding people up that is all he has done.
I really hope he goes out early on Friday.

[the truth]

It has to be the Strictly Come Dancing army that are voting for James in the main, I am surprised he has amde it this far.

He really is the most patronising and condescending person ever. When he said he understood Gary's brain and hearing problems, even I got riled, I hate it when people say they 'know' your situation when they cannot possibly do so.

James has definitely been entertaining but for all the wrong reasons, other than his constant getting at Gary and then winding people up that is all he has done.
I really hope he goes out early on Friday.

i agree with that, especially the "i know your situation" nonsense
though i disagree james hasnt been remotely entertaining not for a milisecond, hes a vile boring shallow predictable ignorant bully

[Mrjrb2014]

I think gaRy fans are at some point going to have to come to terms with the overwhelming hm consensus that he is one big fat fake fcuk

Anyone who would take a consensus from these twatbag(ex Gary,audley) housemates as legit is obviously a troll...:nono:

[Tip]

I can't believe that people would watch a program for weeks to see a 70 year old brain damaged old man being bullied - that's some strange kind of voyeurism. Why would they support a program like that and keep watching?

[Jamesy]

Audley thinking the show is watched by six million people. :joker:

[calyman]

I think gaRy fans are at some point going to have to come to terms with the overwhelming hm consensus that he is one big fat fake fcuk
I think we've already reached the conclusion that the other housemates (Audley excluded) are a bunch of slithering, poisonous, hypocritical, inconsistent, bullying, tawdry, nasty, insincere, superficial, untrustworthy, deceitful, weak, unprincipled and dishonest flotsam of humanity.

That's me trying to see their more positive qualities.

[Josy]

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

Gary never said he was boring as his opinion jet he said he was voted the most boring in todays task by the public

[the truth]

I think we've already reached the conclusion that the other housemates (Audley excluded) are a bunch of slithering, poisonous, hypocritical, inconsistent, bullying, tawdry, nasty, insincere, superficial, untrustworthy, deceitful, weak, unprincipled and dishonest flotsam of humanity.

That's me trying to see their more positive qualities.

spot on. but what kind of producers and presenters condone , praise and reward this vile scum? shame on you emma and the evil puppetmasters you allow to pull your strings. sorry pretty eyes isnt enough to cut it when youre encouraging , praising and rewarding these vile group bullies and overlooking their disgusting behaviour

[wormsinfested]

Please Audley, punch a hole through James.:dance:

[wormsinfested]

I think we've already reached the conclusion that the other housemates (Audley excluded) are a bunch of slithering, poisonous, hypocritical, inconsistent, bullying, tawdry, nasty, insincere, superficial, untrustworthy, deceitful, weak, unprincipled and dishonest flotsam of humanity.

That's me trying to see their more positive qualities.

:worship:

[Jules2]

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

Didnt he just say that he was voted boring as in the task of today? he then inferred that it was in the past. Cant look again it is to late but nothing was meant by the remark. Actually I would have liked James to go and not Lauren but there we are that is in the past as well. Time for bed :sleep: Tbh at this late stage in the game and knowing what Gary has had to put up with from James, I dont really blame him for putting his view forward but there we are James had to make a fuss, with anyone else he would have debated it.

[jet]

Gary never said he was boring as his opinion jet he said he was voted the most boring in todays task by the public

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

[Jules2]

Audley thinking the show is watched by six million people. :joker:


Aw bless, the rate they are going though they will be lucky if they have 500 viewers soon.

[Josy]

Well imo yes it does make a difference as that was Gary's way of explaining the reason for ricci leaving yes he was a bit abrupt with the comment but James as usual has to try and say the nastiest thing he can think of in reply.

[Jules2]

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

On the other hand perhaps he was trying to strike up a conversation re the task? James is far to busy though now trying to get in between George and Edelle. He has to be part of the limelight.

[jet]

Didnt he just say that he was voted boring as in the task of today? he then inferred that it was in the past. Cant look again it is to late but nothing was meant by the remark. Actually I would have liked James to go and not Lauren but there we are that is in the past as well. Time for bed :sleep: Tbh at this late stage in the game and knowing what Gary has had to put up with from James, I dont really blame him for putting his view forward but there we are James had to make a fuss, with anyone else he would have debated it.

Why do people avoid answering the point of my post re the situation being reversed?

[jaxie]

Yes, I watched it back. Does it make a difference though? He was still lacking in understanding and sensitivity and it would have been nice to see him sympathizing with James about Ricci going. Not that James has much sensitivity, but I can see that Gary isn't great in that department either whereas quite a lot here can't or won't admit it.
Gary is a great HM, but his 'goodness' is highly over rated. I have yet to see him do a practical kindness for anyone in the house. He talks about 'love and understanding' but talk is cheap.

Why would he sympathise and lament over someone who called him disgusting, took cheap shots about his family and called him a poor role model. Or more importantly, why should he?

[jet]

Why would he sympathise and lament over someone who called him disgusting, took cheap shots about his family and called him a poor role model. Or more importantly, why should he?

Absolutely. But why would he go over to James who he knew liked him and wind him up?

[jaxie]

Absolutely. But why would he go over to James who he knew liked him and wind him up?
He didn't they were walking away from the stairs and James was prattling on about why could anyone have possibly not voted for Ricci and Gary was just stating fact, well he was voted the most boring in the task. He was, maybe that is a good indication he wasn't that popular outside. Naturally James has to be nasty. It was a conversation but every time Gary opens his mouth he is misinterpreted. James need to chill the **** out.

[the truth]

He didn't they were walking away from the stairs and James was prattling on about why could anyone have possibly not voted for Ricci and Gary was just stating fact, well he was voted the most boring in the task. He was, maybe that is a good indication he wasn't that popular outside. Naturally James has to be nasty. It was a conversation but every time Gary opens his mouth he is misinterpreted. James need to chill the **** out.

spot on

[jaxie]

If James comes on to my tv in any show in the future tv goes over or off. I don't ever want to see his face again after Friday and hear his insufferable voice.

[jet]

Well imo yes it does make a difference as that was Gary's way of explaining the reason for ricci leaving yes he was a bit abrupt with the comment but James as usual has to try and say the nastiest thing he can think of in reply.

Okay, so Gary had to go over to James and explain the reason for Ricci leaving because James wouldn't possibly know already. And Gary was just 'a bit abrupt' whereas James 'has to say the nastiest thing he can think of'. I get it.

[mary poppins]

I'm afraid you'll be waiting.. Gary is never wrong according to people..I understand what.your saying.

[Josy]

Okay, so Gary had to go over to James and explain the reason for Ricci leaving because James wouldn't possibly know already. And Gary was just 'a bit abrupt' whereas James 'has to say the nastiest thing he can think of'. I get it.

No you clearly dont get it.

Gary's point was that if someone was voted mist boring then they were probably the most obvious choice to be evicted.

[jet]

He didn't they were walking away from the stairs and James was prattling on about why could anyone have possibly not voted for Ricci and Gary was just stating fact, well he was voted the most boring in the task. He was, maybe that is a good indication he wasn't that popular outside. Naturally James has to be nasty. It was a conversation but every time Gary opens his mouth he is misinterpreted. James need to chill the **** out.

You still don't see what Gary's doing? :laugh: Blessed are the innocent.
Yesterday most agreed he was a big wind up merchant and was playing them all like violins and there was much of this :cheer2: and this :dance:/ Now today he's just a poor old victim again. .. WTF. Talk about nuts...

[mary poppins]

Yes it does make sense.. Most.people think Gary is always in the right..I can't stand James but Gary was very dismissive of how
his feelings.

[the truth]

Yes it does make sense.. Most.people think Gary is always in the right..I can't stand James but Gary was very dismissive of how
his feelings.

james has been evil every second of every minute of every hour of every day. anything he gets he deserves.

[jaxie]

Yes it does make sense.. Most.people think Gary is always in the right..I can't stand James but Gary was very dismissive of how
his feelings.
Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious
If you say it loud enough, you'll always sound precocious
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
:whistle:

[jet]

No you clearly dont get it.

Gary's point was that if someone was voted mist boring then they were probably the most obvious choice to be evicted.

Which James wouldn't know already? Then he tells him he's gone, which James wouldn't know either. :rolleyes:

You really can't see Gary was stirring, can you? :laugh:

[jaxie]

You still don't see what Gary's doing? :laugh: Blessed are the innocent.
Yesterday most agreed he was a big wind up merchant and was playing them all like violins and there was much of this :cheer2: and this :dance:/ Now today he's just a poor old victim again. .. WTF. Talk about nuts...

You don't get it, I don't care. I don't give a monkey's nuts. I don't need to see 'what gary is doing' according to you. And don't get personal and call me nuts thank you very much.

[Josy]

Which James wouldn't know already? Then he tells him he's gone, which James wouldn't know either. :rolleyes:

You really can't see Gary was stirring, can you? :laugh:

I can see that you can't accept others disagree with your opinion

[bots]

Which James wouldn't know already? Then he tells him he's gone, which James wouldn't know either. :rolleyes:

You really can't see Gary was stirring, can you? :laugh:

I have seen Gary stirring in the past, yes, but that wasn't stirring. The way i see it, there are some that understand what Gary is about and there are others that don't. They are never going to agree so best not to take it too seriously.

There are 2 days left to the final, speaking for myself, i would like to enjoy that time without getting in to what are unimportant arguments now, i would rather vote for my favourite, and enjoy the run up to the final, and no matter who wins, it doesn't change who my favourite was

[jaxie]

I have seen Gary stirring in the past, yes, but that wasn't stirring. The way i see it, there are some that understand what Gary is about and there are others that don't. They are never going to agree so best not to take it too seriously.

There are 2 days left to the final, speaking for myself, i would like to enjoy that time without getting in to what are unimportant arguments now, i would rather vote for my favourite, and enjoy the run up to the final, and no matter who wins, it doesn't change who my favourite was
Well said. I just don't understand this constant need for validation some people seem to have when you don't agree with their view point. I'll argue the facts if there is clip evidence but I'm not interested in conspiracy theories based on someone elses view, specially when often it's about what we don't see which is pure speculation.

[jet]

I can see that you can't accept others disagree with your opinion

It's just frustration because peoples opinions change every other day. One minute Gary's a winder upper and playing them all and it's all :cheer2: isn't he super! and the next he's a poor old victim.
I think he winds them up, and when it suits people they agree, and when it doesn't they disagree.
It's impossible to make any sense of it all.

[Josy]

It's just frustration because peoples opinions change every other day. One minute Gary's a winder upper and playing them all and it's all :cheer2: isn't he super! and the next he's a poor old victim.
I think he winds them up, and when it suits people they agree, and when it doesn't they disagree.
It's impossible to make any sense of it all.

And Gary can wind people up at times but I don't believe this was one if these times, that's my genuine opinion it.

Just because he winds people up sometimes doesn't mean it's constant that's why you get people who agree and disagree when he is doing it

[jet]

And Gary can wind people up at times but I don't believe this was one if these times, that's my genuine opinion it.

That's fine. My genuine opinion is that he was. :shrug:

[Josy]

That's fine. My genuine opinion is that he was. :shrug:

Yet above instead of accepting a differing opinion On the situation you decided 'i couldn't see it'

Sometimes it's best to agree to disagree.

[the truth]

james has been evil and winding people up and bullying in groups every minute of every day. gary has every right to state his opinion and all he said here was ricci was voted most boring earlier in the day. totally fair point. james went berserk and did his fake outrage hysterical reaction yet again rather than actually discuss the subject like a man. hes a vile cretin

[jaxie]

It's just frustration because peoples opinions change every other day. One minute Gary's a winder upper and playing them all and it's all :cheer2: isn't he super! and the next he's a poor old victim.
I think he winds them up, and when it suits people they agree, and when it doesn't they disagree.
It's impossible to make any sense of it all.

People are complicated. They aren't all black and white. The truth as I see it is somewhere between. He is partially deaf and has brain damage but copes really well unless overwhelmed by too much noise/too many talking at once. He is funny, he has moments of great clarity and insight into other housemates and he has moments where he seems confused and eccentric, probably due to his injuries. I think he is a great character.

On another level I don't like how he has been treated by others. I have watched the clips, they don't listen and half time when people shout he is being rude he really isn't. Sure he probably gets grumpy sometimes, he's human but he's like a bloody saint considering all the bitching he has put up with. I think he is genuinely getting tired of it now, you could see in tonight's show that he is started to get a bit more irritated with all the bull**** and I think that is a good thing.

[jet]

james has been evil every second of every minute of every hour of every day. anything he gets he deserves.

If you think James is evil you must lead a very protected life and never watch the news.

Gary, with all the experience of life that comes with being 70, and self proclaiming himself as such a spiritual being and full of love, is not being very successful at making friends and influencing people. Someone who was truly what Gary proclaims to be wouldn't inspire dislike, irritation and annoyance. They would exude a calming and joyful presence and surely make everyone feel better, not like tearing their hair out with frustration. Gary;s spirituality doesn't ring true at all.

[jet]

Yet above instead of accepting a differing opinion On the situation you decided 'i couldn't see it'

Sometimes it's best to agree to disagree.

Yes.

To me, what Gary did was fine, and to me what James said in return was fine as well. It's entertainment, but people turn it into a love/hate fest where one person is totally right and the other totally wrong. I think Gary was winding James up, but that is GOOD as it adds to the show and I think James;s reaction was GOOD as it adds to the show. It gives us a talking point. But the whole nasty name calling is getting way out of control imo and I don't ever remember it being as bad as it has this year from certain posters.
I'm going to call it a day now because I think the last 2 days are going to get vicious.

[Seraphim]

.... James as usual has to try and say the nastiest thing he can think of in reply.

I agree so much.

I have a lot of sympathy with people who've been clashing with Gary, because he's very hard to have a dialogue with. I'd prefer to spend three weeks with James than a day with Gary, and even though I felt that James looked like a pillock when standing over Gary lecturing him at times, I did feel that he was trying to meet Gary halfway. However, tonight saying to Gary that he'd have preferred him to go instead of Ricki was out of proportion to what Gary said to him.

I admire James' talent greatly and at his best he's fun, entertaining and witty, but he's quite a sensitive, emotional person, and when he's upset or hurt, he always gives 'better' than he got. Gary isn't the easiest person, and is certainly pushing a lot of people's buttons in that house.. but James needs to learn to deal with conflict more appropriately, and realise that some things are better left unsaid.

[Ammi]

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.


..my take on it all, which could be completely wrong but it's just how I see it..?..of course it was tactless/ill-timed of Gary, I don't think it's so much that he doesn't have an understanding though..I think it's just that he's always seen it as a game so doesn't really understand their relationships/friendships being so 'intense', you know..?..and that hasn't been helped that he hasn't been tolerated or included so much but in a way maybe has helped in keeping a 'distant objectivity..'..?..I think Gary is interested in people and understands people/'wishes them well in life etc... it's just that I think that's as far as it goes in the house with him and I agree with that I think...I never really understand why housemates feel 'loyalties' like this was real life and these were 'real friends' ... and I'm so often dubious of these 'bonds' they form, they're often more 'alliances' really...so yeah, I think it was ill-timed etc but I also think that James' comment of he wishes it had been Gary wasn't the best either... I also don't think he was being genuine if Im honest and there again, it's just a feeling that what he really was thinking..(especially after the boos..)...is YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, it wasn't me, I'm still here but I'll say all the right things about Ricci and then it'll 'look good' if I pick up on what Gary says...actually, I don't think he cares about 'looking good'..(so I'll scrub that bit..:laugh:..)..I think the reason he picked up on it is because despite the boos etc, he's still there so has kind of figured that the awkward/confrontational James is 'working' so I think also with him, his reaction wasn't great because he's now 'hamming up' the 'bad guy' ...I think James is the sort of person/character that would want to be loved or hated but never ever ever be 'invisible' or thought of as boring....he's still pompous and arrogant though..:laugh:...but both playing their game there ..and James' game is to keep picking at Gary I think...it was quite telling later when he said something like...'and James needs armed guards on his eviction..'...?...something like that..?..he's going all out for this 'baddie' now and actually credit to him, I think he was probably quite stunned to be booed etc originally and he's decided to make it all work for him if he can...more interviews etc for the bad..?...:laugh:...hmmmm interesting..just my thoughts anyway...

[smileymummy]

It's just frustration because peoples opinions change every other day. One minute Gary's a winder upper and playing them all and it's all :cheer2: isn't he super! and the next he's a poor old victim.
I think he winds them up, and when it suits people they agree, and when it doesn't they disagree.
It's impossible to make any sense of it all.

Spot what an intelligent lady you are.

[smileymummy]

If you think James is evil you must lead a very protected life and never watch the news.

Gary, with all the experience of life that comes with being 70, and self proclaiming himself as such a spiritual being and full of love, is not being very successful at making friends and influencing people. Someone who was truly what Gary proclaims to be wouldn't inspire dislike, irritation and annoyance. They would exude a calming and joyful presence and surely make everyone feel better, not like tearing their hair out with frustration. Gary;s spirituality doesn't ring true at all.

True, but instead he stirs it up,lies and trys to look like a victim.

[Cherie]

Gary is blunt, why should he tippy toe around James fake shock that Ricci went

[kirklancaster]

gl3Pkw_WNNc

Bullying bastard James, thinks that Gary is the biggest obstacle to his winning, and he has thought so from day 1. He will not miss any trick to try to damage Gary's reputation with the public, and this is yet another pathetic example. Once again, Gary did nothing wrong. He stated the truth; Ricci was voted the most boring house-mate by the public and Gary was offering that as a reason for him being evicted in response to James' (fake) "I can't believe he's gone" crap. the fact that James (predictably) reacted as nastily as he did, has scored him no brownie points with the viewer and only cements what an obnoxious, rude, arrogant bully he is.

[kirklancaster]

If you think James is evil you must lead a very protected life and never watch the news.

Gary, with all the experience of life that comes with being 70, and self proclaiming himself as such a spiritual being and full of love, is not being very successful at making friends and influencing people. Someone who was truly what Gary proclaims to be wouldn't inspire dislike, irritation and annoyance. They would exude a calming and joyful presence and surely make everyone feel better, not like tearing their hair out with frustration. Gary;s spirituality doesn't ring true at all.

Like the plump Missionary who tries to convert a tribe of starving cannibals at dinner time when they have no food? Like someone casting pearls before swine? Gary's spirituality has been well documented for many years, long before he entered the CBB house - that's quite some feat in maintaining a façade, considering how the abhorrent bullies, James, Edele, Dee and George's masks have slipped so very quickly on this show.

James is for: Just A Mean Egotistical S******d

Dee is for: Devious Evil Elephant

Edele is for: Evil Deceitful Egotistical Lying Exaggerator

George is for: Grossly Exaggerated Ordinariness Really Gicantic Ego

Peace and love from the cosmos and kindest regards from Star Child Gary. :cheer2::cheer2::dance::dance::dance: Audley Second and Gary To Win - Who Cares About 3rd - The Rest In The Bin. :dance::cheer2::cheer2::dance:

[kirklancaster]

I think we've already reached the conclusion that the other housemates (Audley excluded) are a bunch of slithering, poisonous, hypocritical, inconsistent, bullying, tawdry, nasty, insincere, superficial, untrustworthy, deceitful, weak, unprincipled and dishonest flotsam of humanity.

That's me trying to see their more positive qualities.

LMAO :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::dance::dance:

[kirklancaster]

True, but instead he stirs it up,lies and trys to look like a victim.

Gary is the tall guy with the blond hair - American, James is the pumped up little nondescript Brit. Are you mixing them up? just an honest genuine question.

[HBB1508]

No, James has lost someone he liked, and said to Gary Ricci was a nice guy, and Gary says he was boring and he is gone now. Not one ounce of understanding there.

Let's flip it. Say it was Gary who had lost someone he liked and said to James 'he was a nice guy' and James says' he was boring' and 'he's gone now' showing no sympathy at all. And Gary had said 'I wish you had gone' and walked off. This thread wouldn't be about how awful Gary was to do that but still about how brilliant Gary was to say that to James and it would be all :cheer2: That's why I hardly post here anymore. It's just ridiculous - and I like both James and Gary but can see when both of them are right or wrong.

:worship: I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!

[delta]

:worship: I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!


My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.

[kirklancaster]

My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.

TOTALLY BRILLIANTLY PUT. :dance::dance::cheer2::cheer2:cheer2::cheer2:

[Gusto Brunt]

James calls Gary rude and then says to Gary 'I wish you had went'.

How rude is that? Jeez.

[rubymoo]

Yes.

To me, what Gary did was fine, and to me what James said in return was fine as well. It's entertainment, but people turn it into a love/hate fest where one person is totally right and the other totally wrong. I think Gary was winding James up, but that is GOOD as it adds to the show and I think James;s reaction was GOOD as it adds to the show. It gives us a talking point. But the whole nasty name calling is getting way out of control imo and I don't ever remember it being as bad as it has this year from certain posters.
I'm going to call it a day now because I think the last 2 days are going to get vicious.

I understand and agree with what you are saying and i can see what you are saying.

I agree also that some posters are getting out of control and taking it way too serious, because of this it's disrupting what should be a nice experience voicing opinions and sharing views and is turning into attacks and name calling, i'm also going to give it a rest until next year:wavey:

[Cherie]

:worship: I'm totally with you there Jet - I don't bother coming on here too much now as you just get insulted if you are anything but a Gary fan sadly - life is too short!!

:shocked: sorry to hear that Lynne (from a Gary fan). As you say life is too short to be insulted over a TV programme, some people get carried away :shrug:

[Cherie]

I understand and agree with what you are saying and i can see what you are saying.

I agree also that some posters are getting out of control and taking it way too serious, because of this it's disrupting what should be a nice experience voicing opinions and sharing views and is turning into attacks and name calling, i'm also going to give it a rest until next year:wavey:

Is it really that bad Ruby? I must admit I don't read alot of threads as I am too busy with work at the moment I must be missing alot of the OTT behaviour.

[Seraphim]

Gary is blunt, why should he tippy toe around James fake shock that Ricci went

James and Ricci were buddies in the house, so a bit of sympathy / empathy might have gone down better. I don't think that Gary was deliberately winding James up in this case. He always has problems empathising with others - I wonder if it's a result of the brain injury or if he's ever been assessed for Asperger's syndrome.

Another problem is that Gary is coming from a different planet from James in terms of the entertainment industry. James works closely with people and doesn't spend a lot of time in front of cameras - most of his work is behind the scenes with the same people, so he has forged life-long friendships through his work - including Ola, so he is probably viewing the connections he's making on BB as real friendships. Gary has done more than a hundred films and the whole Hollywood business is known to be extremely superficial, and soulless, with people being dropped like hot potatoes if their last film bombed. BB is just another 'show' to Gary and he's looking to serving up a slice of whatever entertainment people are wanting, and has no interest in making friends.

[Cherie]

James and Ricci were buddies in the house, so a bit of sympathy / empathy might have gone down better. The problem is that Gary is coming from a different planet from James in terms of the entertainment industry. James works closely with people and doesn't spend a lot of time in front of cameras - most of his work is behind the scenes with the same people, so he has forged life-long friendships through his work - including Ola, so he is probably viewing the connections he's making on BB as real friendships. Gary has done more than a hundred films and the whole Hollywood business is known to be extremely superficial, and soulless, with people being dropped like hot potatoes if their last film bombed. BB is just another 'show' to Gary and he's looking to serving up a slice of whatever entertainment people are wanting, and has no interest in making friends.

I don't think that Gary was deliberately winding James up in this case. He always has problems empathising with others - I wonder if it's just his ego, or if he's ever been assessed for Asperger's syndrome.

I could understand it if it were at the beginning but with two days left in the series its hard to get emotional about people leaving, I think James was irked because as he said in one of the VTs Ricci was in his "ultimate final" and Gary and Audley are not. I think you are right in some ways but I doubt the British entertainment industry are any less "soulless" or cutthroat than Hollywood. James himself said apart from Anton the other boys on Strictly are bland, not a very nice comment to make about people you have worked with for years. Gary was just saying imo in his rather blunt way that Ricci left because the audience found him boring which they knew because of the earlier task. Maybe he should have patted James on the back and made the right noises, but at that moment in time he didn't want to do that. As for Aspergers, I would imagine Gary has seen a number of therapists over the years if he had Aspergers I am pretty sure it would be diagnosed by now!

[bots]

I fully expect James, Dee, George and Edele to take every opportunity to have a go at Gary over the next 24 hours.The last day isn't shown on TV so they won't do it then. This will be interspersed with the odd pop at Audley in case he could pull off a win

On the other side, I see Gary and Audley making life as uncomfortable as they can for J,D,G, and E to try and bring out the worst sides in them. It will be pure game play, the crown is in sight :laugh:

[calyman]

I agree so much.

I have a lot of sympathy with people who've been clashing with Gary, because he's very hard to have a dialogue with. I'd prefer to spend three weeks with James than a day with Gary.

I'd rather spend 3 years in the 9th circle of hell, than 3 minutes with the brad **** of dancing

[Cherie]

10.28am: James is gutted Ricci has gone. He wanted to get his hair cut #BBUKLive


says it all really, well done Gary for cutting through the BS

[jaxie]

My goodness, that's like admonishing a child when the parent hits it, telling them you made me do it because you were bad.


In other words, one should know better the other for all sorts of reasons doesn't.

It's not a level playing field. One is a by- product of the other. James is a pr!ck of a human being, he's been kicked off Strictly for being unruly, surly and disruptive. So he has form.

Gary has alsorts of problems you cannot deny and they are well documented, there doesn't seem to be an ounce of allowance or slack for what you are stating as Gary's so called meanness and rudeness.

1) He's old
2) He's got two hearing aids
3) He's got numerous physical ailments.
3) He's had head trauma
4) He's probably had a slight personality change.
5) He will have good days and bad, where he's feeling up and then down.
6) He's set in his ways perhaps more so because of his injury

Holding your hand up and saying Shush isn't especially rude coming from an old person with all the above complaints imo. What is so fcukign rude and calculated is the systematic and constant erosion of this mans 'self' by fit and healthy people that should know better. Anyone that doesn't feel excruciating uncomfortable watching what is taking place really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and to re-evaluate their morals and ask them what sort of society do we want to live in.

You saw last night how dejected and pi55ed off with it all Gary was- I just hope he bounces back from it.


I just hope the public do the right thing and recompense ( small mercies) for his 4 weeks of humiliation and ostracisation by this group of self absorbed nobodies.
Excellently put. :clap1:

[Seraphim]

I could understand it if it were at the beginning but with two days left in the series its hard to get emotional about people leaving, I think James was irked because as he said in one of the VTs Ricci was in his "ultimate final" and Gary and Audley are not. I think you are right in some ways but I doubt the British entertainment industry are any less "soulless" or cutthroat than Hollywood. James himself said apart from Anton the other boys on Strictly are bland, not a very nice comment to make about people you have worked with for years. Gary was just saying imo in his rather blunt way that Ricci left because the audience found him boring which they knew because of the earlier task. Maybe he should have patted James on the back and made the right noises, but at that moment in time he didn't want to do that. As for Aspergers, I would imagine Gary has seen a number of therapists over the years if he had Aspergers I am pretty sure it would be diagnosed by now!

To be fair to James, the men on Strictly are not people he's worked with for years. Strictly like to keep changing the dancers to keep the choreography and show fresh, so Anton and Brendon are the only ones who have worked with James for any length of time at all. James wasn't dropped from the show - he was offered a lesser role of choreographer/show dancer this year and chose to decline that, as is his right, and as many of the other dancers do - they do have other career options.

I don't really know where Gary's problems stem from.. I went surfing after I wrote the above and found an interview from 1990 - after the accident - and he seems pretty on-the-ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMURD17Jeok

He came over reasonably well on Celebrity Wife Swap a couple of years ago too. Like he says, he's an old rough Texan boy.. Maybe the rest is just acting up for the cameras.

[Vanessa]

Urgh! He's such a bellend! :bored:

[Jules2]

James cannot handle it when his friends go can he...the shallow minded twat thinks Ricci should have stayed cos he is 'good looking'... FFS we want personality which Ricci did not have.
He can't help having a dig at Gary...Gary speaks the truth...Ricci=Boring :cheer2:

The sad thing is as Edelle said Gary is easy pickings. I wonder if she will ever regret saying that when she sees the things which have been said in there.

[Vanessa]

I don't think we've has someone on the show as evil as James. He's like Darth Veder and Gary is Obi One Kenobi! :joker:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4613767/obi-wan-vs-darth-vader-o.gif

[Seraphim]

I'd rather spend 3 years in the 9th circle of hell, than 3 minutes with the brad **** of dancing

:hehe:

Thanks to all those who wrote funny or thought-provoking posts. It's really interesting to get under the skins of complicated personalities like James and Gary - and try to work out what makes them tick. I only started watching this series because James was in it, and initially felt disappointed in his behaviour towards Gary, but over time I feel I developed a bit more insight into him and warmed to him somewhat. I saw that he is a very pivotal character in the house, as is Dee, and that they were the two people who actually have made the most effort to interact with Gary, which has resulted in clashes, as is inevitable when BB is devised by psychologists to cause the maximum pressure and friction. The others just avoid Gary, which is worse than arguing with him, in my opinion. They talk a good talk, but talk is cheap.

[Jules2]

:hehe:

Thanks to all those who wrote funny or thought-provoking posts. It's really interesting to get under the skins of complicated personalities like James and Gary - and try to work out what makes them tick. I only started watching this series because James was in it, and initially felt disappointed in his behaviour towards Gary, but over time I feel I developed a bit more insight into him and warmed to him somewhat. I saw that he is a very pivotal character in the house, as is Dee, and that they were the two people who actually have made the most effort to interact with Gary, which has resulted in clashes, as is inevitable when BB is devised by psychologists to cause the maximum pressure and friction. The others just avoid him and avoided getting involved in any of the friction until they were sure of the public's sympathy. They talk a good talk, but talk is cheap.

No interaction there with either of them, James has used his supposed good deed to try and educate Gary and then has gone running around making fun of him. Dee is so twofaced it is unbelievable. Had they treated Gary normal and not as a 70 year old deaf man, thinking he was stupid, they could have all got on. They are so up their own importance that they cannot see the wood for the trees. Still in my book what goes around comes around and the trees will come crashing down.

Audley is the one with sense and this is why James nor Dee like him, he sees the truth as it is but also softly tells Gary what twats they are. The verbal abuse which has come out of Madam Dees and Lord James mouth is beyond forgiving. It is sad that they have drawn Adelle into their clutches as she could have been different.

GARY to win AUDLEY second.

[Vanessa]

James pisses me off so much i can't even look at him anymore. I ant to throw stuff at my tv when he's on! :rant:

[kirklancaster]

Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious
If you say it loud enough, you'll always sound precocious
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
:whistle:

LMAO - Hilariously funny.:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::dance::dance::dance :

[Jules2]

To be fair to James, the men on Strictly are not people he's worked with for years. Strictly like to keep changing the dancers to keep the choreography and show fresh, so Anton and Brendon are the only ones who have worked with James for any length of time at all. James wasn't dropped from the show - he was offered a lesser role of choreographer/show dancer this year and chose to decline that, as is his right, and as many of the other dancers do - they do have other career options.

I don't really know where Gary's problems stem from.. I went surfing after I wrote the above and found an interview from 1990 - after the accident - and he seems pretty on-the-ball to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMURD17Jeok

He came over reasonably well on Celebrity Wife Swap a couple of years ago too. Like he says, he's an old rough Texan boy.. Maybe the rest is just acting up for the cameras.

I agree with those remarks this is why the others should have respected his age and his disability and not treated him like some idiot. They were told this and told that and then put him down in their minds as some old dodger. He is far wiser than them but they would rather see him in another light. The very way Dee and James are talking about him now, shows that they think they are far above him. Idiot plonkers. They never will be. They could have learnt such a lot from him but George says he has enjoyed himself with the exception of Gary being there. James and Dee doesnt think he should be in the final etc. etc. and so forth and so it goes on and on and on. Once again idiots.

[Suze]

Maybe I shouldn't say this, but can only say what I see, and it has looked on a few occasions as if James might have a thing for Ricci. I could be wrong, but then why is he so over the top irked at Ricci wallpaper being evicted? :conf:

[Liam-]

Maybe I shouldn't say this, but can only say what I see, and it has looked on a few occasions as if James might have a thing for Ricci. I could be wrong, but then why is he so over the top irked at Ricci wallpaper being evicted? :conf:

Because they were friends?.. People do get that upset over their friends leaving, look at Siavash in BB10 when Cairon left, he nearly had kittens.

[Seraphim]

I agree with those remarks this is why the others should have respected his age and his disability and not treated him like some idiot. They were told this and told that and then put him down in their minds as some old dodger. He is far wiser than them but they would rather see him in another light.

I agree that they underestimated Gary, but then so do a lot of the people who have supported him on forums. I've even read people saying that he should be removed from the show for his own good!! That's so patronising, if you ask me!

[Suze]

Because they were friends?.. People do get that upset over their friends leaving, look at Siavash in BB10 when Cairon left, he nearly had kittens.

Nah, not when he will be seeing his 'friend' in two days. He was just way over the top imho. Didn't watch BB10 at all, so can't comment on that comparison you have made.

[Patricia4]

How nasty is that I would of preferred you to have gone I cant understand how James can be so evil and that is what he is EVIL.

[Suze]

How nasty is that I would of preferred you to have gone I cant understand how James can be so evil and that is what he is EVIL.

Gary could have easily have retaliated with I wish you had gone instead James, but he didn't, but then as always Gary is the better man :)

[hijaxers]

Maybe I shouldn't say this, but can only say what I see, and it has looked on a few occasions as if James might have a thing for Ricci. I could be wrong, but then why is he so over the top irked at Ricci wallpaper being evicted? :conf:

Because he wanted his hair cut today - shallow

[Suze]

Because he wanted his hair cut today - shallow

They always get the hairdressers in on Finals day anyway. I hope they even out Dee's lopsided hair for her.

[Pincho Paxton]

They always get the hairdressers in on Finals day anyway. I hope they even out Dee's lopsided hair for her.

They have...
http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/30/Moe-Howard.jpg

[Liam-]

Nah, not when he will be seeing his 'friend' in two days. He was just way over the top imho. Didn't watch BB10 at all, so can't comment on that comparison you have made.

It doesn't make a difference when you're going to see them again, it's well testified that everything is so magnified in that house that if you lose one of your best friends in there, who you spend the majority of your time with, it's going to be upsetting, no matter how much time you've got left, because you've made bonds with them.

[Suze]

It doesn't make a difference when you're going to see them again, it's well testified that everything is so magnified in that house that if you lose one of your best friends in there, who you spend the majority of your time with, it's going to be upsetting, no matter how much time you've got left, because you've made bonds with them.

Don't agree with you on that bit at all, bonds made or not, with only two days left, it was a total over reaction on Jame's part, it made no sense at all.

[Patricia4]

You are right Suze he is the better man and if he had it would of been four against one so its a waste of time.

[Suze]

They have...
http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/30/Moe-Howard.jpg


:laugh2: Thanks for making me laugh with that :D

[Liam-]

Don't agree with you on that bit at all, bonds made or not, with only two days left, it was a total over reaction on Jame's part, it made no sense at all.

They've all said in there that a day feels like a week and without one of your friends who you have a laugh with, it would be even worse.. I genuinely don't see how it was an overreaction.

[Suze]

They've all said in there that a day feels like a week and without one of your friends who you have a laugh with, it would be even worse.. I genuinely don't see how it was an overreaction.

I think on that occasion it was, however we will have to agree to disagree on that one then Liam.

[kirklancaster]

They have...
http://cdn01.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/30/Moe-Howard.jpg

MISSED THIS --- Funny. Funny. Funny. LMA:dance2::dance2::joker::joker:O

[Patricia4]

Nice hair style :joker: