Shame on HM's for not embracing a legend!

[the truth]

To underline the shallow boring bullying scum we had this year
It shows how self obsessed and insecure they are , that they could never even give a true legend any time, they couldnt listen or converse properly in anything like a genuine sincere manner
Theyre all so obsessed with winning, grabbing air time, getting cheap attention from cheap laughs and abuse


To emma willis who laughs them off as brilliant housemates i say what kind of a person not only ignores mistreats and ruins the opportunity to get to know a legend....but proceeds to bully the old disabled legend because of their own envy , bitterness, selfnishness, lack of heart, soul and compassion.

I'd be ecstatic to go in there and simply get quality time with a legend, a wonderful talent, a total enigma, a poet a preacher, a thespian, an actor , a philosopher.

Imagine other acting legends enterted the house, say al pacino, meryl streep or bobby deniro and all the hoousemates did was abuse them, ignore them, group bully them and walk away from them mid conversation, it defies belief? rather than
listening to and sharing in this legends life stories and unique experiences has been a pleasure. Hes a majestic raconteur, if only these twats had allowed him and us more time to listen and understand these wondrous tales and wallow in the majesty of his soul

[icecakes]

Dee rolling her eyes when Gary started singing in the diary room, she really is a vile pig, hope she gets her comeuppence.

[Pincho Paxton]

Dee rolling her eyes when Gary started singing in the diary room, she really is a vile pig, hope she gets her comeuppence.

Same when he said something about a rag, forgot what he said.

[CaudleHalbard]

Dee rolling her eyes when Gary started singing in the diary room, she really is a vile pig, hope she gets her comeuppence.
She'll probably win! :D

What come uppance can she get? She's already got a six-figure fee. ;)

Probably get her own TV show............

[the truth]

She'll probably win! :D

What come uppance can she get? She's already got a six-figure fee. ;)

Probably get her own TV show............

shes been exposed as her true vile self, not even stolen money can buy back your soul

[mary poppins]

Christ it's only Gary busey..he made a few good films..so what? He's still obnoxious!

[Pincho Paxton]

Christ it's only Gary busey..he made a few good films..so what? He's still obnoxious!

Well Mary Poppins only made 1 good film so stick that up your umbrella! :joker:

[CaudleHalbard]

Christ it's only Gary busey..he made a few good films..so what? He's still obnoxious!
I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

[mary poppins]

I've seen all his films and enjoyed them but as a hm in the BB house I think he obnoxious.

[Liam-]

What has him being in a few films got to do with him as a person? He might be a good actor but that doesn't not make him a douche imo :laugh:

[CaudleHalbard]

He's acting some of the time in the house - and it's working.

[icecakes]

I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

Of course they have, her scandalous scumbag lifestyle was all over the media.

[abhorson]

I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

I think not.

[Trasadkel1]

To underline the shallow boring bullying scum we had this year
It shows how self obsessed and insecure they are , that they could never even give a true legend any time, they couldnt listen or converse properly in anything like a genuine sincere manner
Theyre all so obsessed with winning, grabbing air time, getting cheap attention from cheap laughs and abuse


To emma willis who laughs them off as brilliant housemates i say what kind of a person not only ignores mistreats and ruins the opportunity to get to know a legend....but proceeds to bully the old disabled legend because of their own envy , bitterness, selfnishness, lack of heart, soul and compassion.

I'd be ecstatic to go in there and simply get quality time with a legend, a wonderful talent, a total enigma, a poet a preacher, a thespian, an actor , a philosopher.

Imagine other acting legends enterted the house, say al pacino, meryl streep or bobby deniro and all the hoousemates did was abuse them, ignore them, group bully them and walk away from them mid conversation, it defies belief? rather than
listening to and sharing in this legends life stories and unique experiences has been a pleasure. Hes a majestic raconteur, if only these twats had allowed him and us more time to listen and understand these wondrous tales and wallow in the majesty of his soul

And then back in the real world.....

[abhorson]

Of course they have, her scandalous scumbag lifestyle was all over the media.



In a few rags and a small TV audience as opposed too millions over forty years.

NO.

[Kazanne]

Well Mary Poppins only made 1 good film so stick that up your umbrella! :joker:

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Jamesy]

And then back in the real world.....

:joker:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Well Mary Poppins only made 1 good film so stick that up your umbrella! :joker:

Nice one Pincho. :cheer2: Mary Poppins can go chimchimery with her only film and chimchimaroo to another planet.

[the truth]

I've seen all his films and enjoyed them but as a hm in the BB house I think he obnoxious.

erm no you havent , you havent even seen 10% of them.

[the truth]

And then back in the real world.....

what worlds that then? petty infighting, hate, bullying, shallownes, ego, ignorance, thats your real world is it?

[Trasadkel1]

what worlds that then? petty infighting, hate, bullying, shallownes, ego, ignorance, thats your real world is it?

Oh come on. You are watching an edited highlights show where tasks etc are designed to cause controversy. How do you know who is real in there when we are only shown what BB decides to show us. You cannot judge people so harshly when you don't get to see all sides of them. It's pretty obvious to anyone that Gary is not the angelic ,poor frail, bullied old man , that some are making him out to be. It's not that difficult to deduce that from what has been said from evicted housemates. To be honest I think it is an insult to him to suggest that he is. People are taking the show far too seriously, and that is why the show is going down the pan. The insults thrown towards housemates and their friends family on the outside I find quite disturbing and says more about the people throwing them than the people receiving them.

All BB want is good ratings that wouldn't materialise if everyone was chatting amicably talking about the weather. It's not a real situation. Now without live feed they tend to make characters. It's more like TOWIE.

[rubymoo]

Oh come on. You are watching an edited highlights show where tasks etc are designed to cause controversy. How do you know who is real in there when we are only shown what BB decides to show us. You cannot judge people so harshly when you don't get to see all sides of them. It's pretty obvious to anyone that Gary is not the angelic ,poor frail, bullied old man , that some are making him out to be. It's not that difficult to deduce that from what has been said from evicted housemates. To be honest I think it is an insult to him to suggest that he is. People are taking the show far too seriously, and that is why the show is going down the pan. The insults thrown towards housemates and their friends family on the outside I find quite disturbing and says more about the people throwing them than the people receiving them.

All BB want is good ratings that wouldn't materialise if everyone was chatting amicably talking about the weather. It's not a real situation. Now without live feed they tend to make characters. It's more like TOWIE.

Very well said:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[delta]

He's acting some of the time in the house - and it's working.


Oh how the masses are so easily duped.


Pray tell me- what sort of games can they play to influence the out come of any given event or happening in the house?


Also- do tell me how the housemates in there are acting to any given situation in the house that they would act differently outside. { other than having the option to walk away}

This oh {Quote} Team Audley/ Team James - that came from Emma Willis the other night. No it's Team Right against Team Wrong.

This isn't Monoply or It's Knock About it's a game of Life and the games people play. The good and bad traits they have picked up whilst they have been on this earth are put to good use whilst they are incarcerated.

It's laughable when someone traipses out the expression "Oh he/she is playing a massive game" How? Are they using their ace card of being able to go invisible or have they snuck a cell phone in or tablet and have privy to what we are thinking and so adjusting and saying what we would like to think they want to hear?

People adjust their opinions and swap back and forth- take sides to suit their own agenda etc in the outside world. We see the exact same thing in the house. Pacts are made and broken. Friends are forged then lost.

Big Brother is the game of life. To argue that what we see isn't that person or somehow managed to project themselves into something they would never be or do on the outside world is the biggest load of bullsh!t going.

What you see is what you get.

Audley - for the most a very nice guy regular and kind
James- A nasty- vindictive- insecure and jealous- over bearing individual
Dee- Scum of the earth a bully- thief - underhand and cunning.
Edele- Sickly sweet- an image is one thing- reality another. Sly
Ricci- Steady Eddie- young and doesn't really know his own mind.
Lauren- Vacuous- self centred - a bit of a non entity- harmless
George- A set, set of ways and values all the way from Essex. Thinks he speaks for the rest of the country. Deluded little Mama's boy.
Gary- Seems a nice guy- hard to evaluate their claims of rudeness. I think we see enough of him to know that he's been ostracised and picked upon. He tried to adapt to fit in- tried to improve etc and I think in the end has thought - Fcuk you - you don't like me. I won't hate you but I will do it MY WAY. The most interesting and amusing housemate of them by a country mile. I don't think we have scratched the surface with him.

Are this lot so desperate to win ( win what?) that they would treat someone the way they are doing. As brilliant as this one was this year it will also go down as one of the most excruciatingly painful to watch at times.

[mary poppins]

erm no you havent , you havent even seen 10% of them.

How do you know what I have or haven't seen?

[nina73]

To underline the shallow boring bullying scum we had this year
It shows how self obsessed and insecure they are , that they could never even give a true legend any time, they couldnt listen or converse properly in anything like a genuine sincere manner
Theyre all so obsessed with winning, grabbing air time, getting cheap attention from cheap laughs and abuse


To emma willis who laughs them off as brilliant housemates i say what kind of a person not only ignores mistreats and ruins the opportunity to get to know a legend....but proceeds to bully the old disabled legend because of their own envy , bitterness, selfnishness, lack of heart, soul and compassion.

I'd be ecstatic to go in there and simply get quality time with a legend, a wonderful talent, a total enigma, a poet a preacher, a thespian, an actor , a philosopher.

Imagine other acting legends enterted the house, say al pacino, meryl streep or bobby deniro and all the hoousemates did was abuse them, ignore them, group bully them and walk away from them mid conversation, it defies belief? rather than
listening to and sharing in this legends life stories and unique experiences has been a pleasure. Hes a majestic raconteur, if only these twats had allowed him and us more time to listen and understand these wondrous tales and wallow in the majesty of his soul

Good post ,with you all the way :spin:

[waterhog]

24 7 would get tiring and there is only so many times you can embrace and respect someone.

[Jamesy]

It's embarrassing how obsessed some of you are with Gary. :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

If Robert De Niro had entered the house, benefits scrounger for 20 years Dee would have slagged him off too.

Haha. Unbelievable.

[Liam-]

If Robert De Niro had entered the house, benefits scrounger for 20 years Dee would have slagged him off too.

Haha. Unbelievable.

If Robert De Niro was an asshole to everybody too, yeah she would, rightly so :laugh:

[the truth]

If Robert De Niro was an asshole to everybody too, yeah she would, rightly so :laugh:

deniro wouldnt be an ass to anyone, you havent even earned the right to talk about such a legend, the man commands respect , even the biggest scummiest reality tv english twats they could find wouldnt dare say a word out of place to a man who commands the utmost respect. same with meryl streep or many other of our greatest screen thespians. these are rightly the legends of their game, people who have entertained and educated the masses for nigh on 50 years

[Trasadkel1]

Yet again I reiterate that these arguments would stand if we had access to live feed like we used to and were able to judge people on what we saw and perceived of them ourselves not an edited version of what BB choose to show us. I cannot understand how people can seriously judge people so harshly when that is the case. It has been said that Gary is rude, pushing people, has hygiene issues etc. if BB had chosen to show that side of him we could have had a totally different story line and people would have been baying against him. I would suggest that they haven't because of his Hollywood status and the fact that they have paid a lot of money to have him on the show but who knows.

For me BB is now an entertainment show and should be viewed as such. I have watched every series of BB and anything going on in the recent series pale into insignificance in comparison. No one used to call for OFCOM, bullying etc then and that was a time when we had access to four different cameras of live feed and could ,justifiably, know the real personalities of the housemates.

[Jordan.]

Um no one deserves special treatment because of who they are.

[susie q]

I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

[the truth]

Um no one deserves special treatment because of who they are.

what does that mean? what if theyre deaf or disabled or brain damaged or old, anyone with any self respect allows people some time and space and gives patience to someone with any health situation etc empathy too. not patronising people of curse but some empathy respect and understanding
ps theres zero evidence of gary pushing anyone at all...the only claim was alie saying by ricci that gary pushed lauren, lauren said he didnt, end of

as for you mary poppins you claimed youd seen ALL GARY BUESYS MOVIES. now why not save yoruself embarassment and admit thats not true , or do you wish to name and describe each of his 167 performances? .........................thought not

[the truth]

I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

its the lowest of the low. shows the attitude to vulnerable people too...caring my ass, what a fraudster

[Niamh.]

They're just jealous that he's a genuine star and most of that lot are just Reality "stars"

[Liam-]

deniro wouldnt be an ass to anyone, you havent even earned the right to talk about such a legend, the man commands respect , even the biggest scummiest reality tv english twats they could find wouldnt dare say a word out of place to a man who commands the utmost respect. same with meryl streep or many other of our greatest screen thespians. these are rightly the legends of their game, people who have entertained and educated the masses for nigh on 50 years

I have the right to talk about anyone i please tyvm, If someone is an asshole, i don't care what they've done in their career, i will that they're an asshole, no-one demands respect, people earn it.

[Jordan.]

what does that mean? what if theyre deaf or disabled or brain damaged or old, anyone with any self respect allows people some time and space and gives patience to someone with any health situation etc empathy too. not patronising people of curse but some empathy respect and understanding
ps theres zero evidence of gary pushing anyone at all...the only claim was alie saying by ricci that gary pushed lauren, lauren said he didnt, end of

as for you mary poppins you claimed youd seen ALL GARY BUESYS MOVIES. now why not save yoruself embarassment and admit thats not true , or do you wish to name and describe each of his 167 performances? .........................thought not

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

[the truth]

I have the right to talk about anyone i please tyvm, If someone is an asshole, i don't care what they've done in their career, i will that they're an asshole, no-one demands respect, people earn it.

but you dont say that , james is the biggets asshole ever and you cant even bring youself to say it, gary on the other hand is not an asshole hes a wonderful man

[Liam-]

but you dont say that , james is the biggets asshole ever and you cant even bring youself to say it, gary on the other hand is not an asshole hes a wonderful man

It's your opinion that James is an asshole, it's also your opinion that Gary is a wonderful man, they are not my opinions, so that's why i don't say it.

[the truth]

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

wrong. i didnt say embrace him for being a legend. they never even gave the legend time , to have a chance to get to talk to them properly with respect , to listen to each other and enjoy and share stories and experiences. his life and his stories are beyond fascinating. hes a captivating chap , but the petty nasty ignorant jealous impatient greedy bullies coudlnt bare to give him a genuine chance. they wanted to detsroy him from the start. such is their own envy and bitter insecurities. to think of the vile evil bully james, an arrogant abusive scumbag, to try and label gary an arrogant hollywood asshole is a sick joke. they never even gave gary a chance. what a wasted opportunity to learn and grow and connect and communicate with such a remarkable human being, sad losers.

[the truth]

It's your opinion that James is an asshole, it's also your opinion that Gary is a wonderful man, they are not my opinions, so that's why i don't say it.

you honestly dont think james is an asshole? please explain why?

[Liam-]

you honestly dont think james is an asshole? please explain why?

No i don't think he's an asshole, he might stir stuff up, but i don;t see him as an asshole.
Why? because he's a joker, he has a sense of humour, he's funny, he likes to have a bit of banter with people, granted people might misconstrue that as being horrible, but in my eyes he's just a guy who has a different sense of humour to most people, he does like to stir the pot and wind people up occasionally, like when he was jokingly telling Edele she was rude during her so called 'argument' with Gary in the garden, i find him endearing and a great delight to watch.

[the truth]

No i don't think he's an asshole, he might stir stuff up, but i don;t see him as an asshole.
Why? because he's a joker, he has a sense of humour, he's funny, he likes to have a bit of banter with people, granted people might misconstrue that as being horrible, but in my eyes he's just a guy who has a different sense of humour to most people, he does like to stir the pot and wind people up occasionally, like when he was jokingly telling Edele she was rude during her so called 'argument' with Gary in the garden, i find him endearing and a great delight to watch.

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

[poppsywoppsy]

Oh how the masses are so easily duped.


Pray tell me- what sort of games can they play to influence the out come of any given event or happening in the house?


Also- do tell me how the housemates in there are acting to any given situation in the house that they would act differently outside. { other than having the option to walk away}

This oh {Quote} Team Audley/ Team James - that came from Emma Willis the other night. No it's Team Right against Team Wrong.

This isn't Monoply or It's Knock About it's a game of Life and the games people play. The good and bad traits they have picked up whilst they have been on this earth are put to good use whilst they are incarcerated.

It's laughable when someone traipses out the expression "Oh he/she is playing a massive game" How? Are they using their ace card of being able to go invisible or have they snuck a cell phone in or tablet and have privy to what we are thinking and so adjusting and saying what we would like to think they want to hear?

People adjust their opinions and swap back and forth- take sides to suit their own agenda etc in the outside world. We see the exact same thing in the house. Pacts are made and broken. Friends are forged then lost.

Big Brother is the game of life. To argue that what we see isn't that person or somehow managed to project themselves into something they would never be or do on the outside world is the biggest load of bullsh!t going.

What you see is what you get.

Audley - for the most a very nice guy regular and kind
James- A nasty- vindictive- insecure and jealous- over bearing individual
Dee- Scum of the earth a bully- thief - underhand and cunning.
Edele- Sickly sweet- an image is one thing- reality another. Sly
Ricci- Steady Eddie- young and doesn't really know his own mind.
Lauren- Vacuous- self centred - a bit of a non entity- harmless
George- A set, set of ways and values all the way from Essex. Thinks he speaks for the rest of the country. Deluded little Mama's boy.
Gary- Seems a nice guy- hard to evaluate their claims of rudeness. I think we see enough of him to know that he's been ostracised and picked upon. He tried to adapt to fit in- tried to improve etc and I think in the end has thought - Fcuk you - you don't like me. I won't hate you but I will do it MY WAY. The most interesting and amusing housemate of them by a country mile. I don't think we have scratched the surface with him.

Are this lot so desperate to win ( win what?) that they would treat someone the way they are doing. As brilliant as this one was this year it will also go down as one of the most excruciatingly painful to watch at times.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

What has happened that bullying nasty egotists are lauded over the decent housemates who actually give a damn about other peoples well being and in James case actually brag about it as well.

As nasty as Helen could be, she did try to redeem herself by admitting it and behaving better by the end, James is deliberately being a tool, saying so and reveling in his bullying behaviour.

When he starts slowing down his speaking, it drives me mad, is it because Ola is not from the UK and he is in the habit of speaking like this to her, he says it is because Gary can't hear but more like he is lecturing him in a patronizing way. Detestable man.

[poppsywoppsy]

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

:clap1::clap1:

[Liam-]

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

Okay take a step back from your keyboard and breath for a second :laugh:

People supporting someone on a tv show that has no relevance to anybodies life whatsoever, is not the reason bullying happens in schools.

He never once threatened violence against a 70 year old, he hasn't 'hurt the afflicted' I don't quite understand where you get that from.

He hasn't encouraged anyone to follow suit about anything, it's not his fault if a lot of people agree with him, he's not a mind bender, controlling peoples mind ffs.

I don;t find any of that funny because i don't see any of that really happening, so don't try and label me as someone who condones and endorses bullying tyvm.

I've stated many, many times why i find James funny, but if you insist on me doing it again, so be it.. his wit, his sarcasm, his ability to have banter with people, his truthfulness, his brutality in which he delivers the truth without a care for what others think of him is also one of the may reasons i admire and support him, is that enough for you? :wavey:

[Fosse]

Dee is a lacuna - there's nothing there.

[Tarryn]

I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

I've never heard of Dee before this BB, so I know nothing about her.
Stealing from care homes ?..............Tell me more :shocked:

[Tip]

I wish it had been Al Pacino or Robert De Niro!.

No offence to Gary, who's apparently doing the reality show circuit for his charity - but yes, I probably wouldn't exactly have embraced him either seeing as I now switch off the tv when he starts speaking for any length of time.

[mary poppins]

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

[mary poppins]

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

sorry that was meant for The Truth...Sincere apologies

[Jules2]

Of course they have, her scandalous scumbag lifestyle was all over the media.

Honest I never heard of her and I am wondering what the White stands for. I havent even been bothered to look up her history, she is a horrible person full stop.

On the other hand I have found and admired the many vts Gary has produced with audiences, charity work, chat shows and have loved him immensely.

[Jules2]

It's embarrassing how obsessed some of you are with Gary. :laugh:

Why should it be embarrassing for some to love a legend. Who do you love or admire, let us know so that we can see how embarrassing yours is. On the other hand no, you admire who ever you want that is the beauty of free speech and democracy. We really shouldnt knock that which we do not understand.

GARY to win tonight.

[Robodog]

Gary talks constantly about peace, love, truth etc with lots of other wild and interesting stories.

All James and Dee talk about is themselves - or how 'bad' Gary and Audley are.

No competition.

GARY 2 WIN - KEEP VOTING GUYS ! !

[Tip]

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?


If this is really what you feel has gone on then I am completely at a loss to understand why you have chosen to watch it. Wouldn't you be setting up campaigns to get BB to stop the program or at least get BB to stop people saying or doing anything that may be unpleasant?

I presume if you were privy to watching what you perceive as bullying outside the house you wouldn't watch it avidly and just complain about how awful society is?

I can't see how if people view this (I know some people say it's unpleasant viewing but then people watch horror films and all sorts, to get repulsed for entertainment) they don't feel complicit in adding to the fact that this is entertainment.

[Jules2]

24 7 would get tiring and there is only so many times you can embrace and respect someone.

That is wrong really you know WH dont we admire and embrace our loved ones, our friends and companions. I know I do mine and I dont know where I would be without them.

I would have a lot of time for Gary.

[Jules2]

For me I honestly think that they were told about the brain issue, they knew about the deafness and they knew his age. Now had they all just treated him as one of them and worked out the issues with him on equal terms, it would have been a different story. They deemed him as a lesser person than them, someone not worthy of their consideration. Also he is an american so they may think that the programme belongs to them and them alone.

As Gary told them, he left everything behind him when he came into the house, he wanted to be considered as one of them but it wasnt meant to be. Audley has been the most genuine one looking out for him as a friend. James sadly appeared to be helping but then he stirred the pot behind Gary's back, thus making fun of him.

There seem to have been a few chats on equal level lately but it is to late. Were they afraid of his status?

[Tip]

I don't think it would have been great viewing to see people fawning over a Hollywood actor for 4 weeks either.

However, it has taught me that I probably won't go to a celebrity agent if I need a carer for myself or one of my family - (as if anyone needed that lesson).

[Jules2]

I don't think it would have been great viewing to see people fawning over a Hollywood actor for 4 weeks either.

However, it has taught me that I probably won't go to a celebrity agent if I need a carer for myself or one of my family - (as if anyone needed that lesson).

Ah Tip but why would they have had to fawn over an actor tbh. He is a legend in his own right but at the end of the day he isnt any better than any of us, I love him mind you but I do believe in equality. Shouldnt they have just treated him naturally instead of trying to bring him down all the time because they thought he wasnt really all there? This is my point.

Within the clan if one did something wrong they advised they didnt take the mickey so much but with Gary they treated him as a defect, someone lesser than them. We know better and for me age definitely shouldnt come into it but his deafness was obviously the thing which caused a lot of his trouble. Didnt mean to say though that he was/is any lesser a person. As he was told he tried to put things right, the others didnt they are to full of their own importance.

They could have then all shared their stories, we could have been far more entertained and learnt more about all of them. Much of their time has been used in pulling Gary down for their own amusement. One of the worst remarks was saying that he should be in a dog cage, not very nice, though Stephanie and James were higly amused.

[Tip]

I see their behaviour as a coping mechanism. Not a moral coping mechanism just a coping mechanism.

It may be shameful, but I don't see anything unnatural in their behaviour - have you seen the nastinesses that humans have indulged world wide throughout history? Particularly when people are on the defensive for whatever reasons?

Maybe it's time for BB producers to try and get a house with minimum nastiness in it, but I suspect that wouldn't work - unless they were genuinely able to create entertaining fun. Hearing their stories for 4 weeks may have entertained you - I think a 15 minute chat show interview of any of them (yes including Gary) would be enough for me and not what I'm looking for particularly in the house.

For me, it's about exposing what people do in that environment - and that includes the unpleasant, rude and ugly. As long as I genuinely don't think anyone is really a victim of something they can't cope with then that's fine. I'm not interested in the winners or loser really, it's the actual process that interests me.

So people don't cope as well as some others might, may not be as nice as we think we would be, could do better etc. etc. that's what makes it interesting for me.

I would however appreciate a little more fun environments so BB should be more up on creating tasks that balance things that are going on. The more negative the environment the more positive the tasks etc.

[Anothercat]

He may be a legend to some, but me and my husband had never heard of him

[Trasadkel1]

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

There is no hope... I had read some of your posts and thought you were saying it tongue in cheek but it is quite worrying that I now don't think you are:/. Could you just advise how you manage to have so much anger towards people you have never met. How can you know the real extent of what has gone on in the house from watching heavily edited highlights. How do you also explain that , if the highlights had been edited negatively for Gary, they could have chosen to show his rude side, him pushing people out the way and walking around with poo on his hands etc. it's all about the editing and creating an entertainment show.

[jaxie]

There is no hope... I had read some of your posts and thought you were saying it tongue in cheek but it is quite worrying that I now don't think you are:/. Could you just advise how you manage to have so much anger towards people you have never met. How can you know the real extent of what has gone on in the house from watching heavily edited highlights. How do you also explain that , if the highlights had been edited negatively for Gary, they could have chosen to show his rude side, him pushing people out the way and walking around with poo on his hands etc. it's all about the editing and creating an entertainment show.

I find it rather worrying that you can't see what we are all upset about. :shrug:

[Trasadkel1]

I find it rather worrying that you can't see what we are all upset about. :shrug:

I find it worrying that people are letting a reality TV show upset them for the reasons I have stated , that no one seems prepared to answer:/.

[the truth]

There is no hope... I had read some of your posts and thought you were saying it tongue in cheek but it is quite worrying that I now don't think you are:/. Could you just advise how you manage to have so much anger towards people you have never met. How can you know the real extent of what has gone on in the house from watching heavily edited highlights. How do you also explain that , if the highlights had been edited negatively for Gary, they could have chosen to show his rude side, him pushing people out the way and walking around with poo on his hands etc. it's all about the editing and creating an entertainment show.

youre doing the exact same about a man youve never met lol mindless hypocrisy

[Trasadkel1]

youre doing the exact same about a man youve never met lol mindless hypocrisy

That's the point I am not because I am watching the show for entertainment and support the housemate that has entertained me. I don't vote, it just frustrates me that people are ruining the show by loosing all sense of reality. By the way I have answered your question you have just deflected mine. How can you feel such spite towards someone you don't know and are basing an opinion from watching heavily edited highlights. Just interested because I seriously cannot believe what I read. Its not reality... It's set up situations designed to cause conflict and interest to get good ratings.

[jaxie]

That's the point I am not because I am watching the show for entertainment and support the housemate that has entertained me. I don't vote, it just frustrates me that people are ruining the show by loosing all sense of reality. By the way I have answered your question you have just deflected mine. How can you feel such spite towards someone you don't know and are basing an opinion from watching heavily edited highlights. Just interested because I seriously cannot believe what I read. Its not reality... It's set up situations designed to cause conflict and interest to get good ratings.
I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

[Tip]

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

People love having villains and being outraged - it's very hard to buy that people would bother watching a program if it wasn't entertaining them in some way.

If something truly horrible was going on that they felt truly abhorrent, then I presume that would take action to stop it going on, not sit there watching it and deciding to vote something or other at the end of it all.

[Trasadkel1]

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

This is how we see things differently though. I see a man who is not a frail, brain damaged person who needs to be handled with kid gloves. Let's be honest he would not be in there if that was the case.

I see a very strong willed man who doesn't listen to what others have to say because he is only interested in himself. I think he knows exactly what he is doing and instigates situations to annoy people and then stands back and plays the victim. It is pretty obvious from the comments made by evicted housemates that he is not easy to cope with.

Like I have said the producers could have chosen to show him in a bad way if they had wanted but I would imagine the fact that he is a Hollywood "legend" and they have paid him lots of money they wanted their money's worth

That's why different people make their opinions on people. Doesn't make anyone's wrong anyone's right. That's the idea of the show. Without live feed it is now like characters in a soap.

[jaxie]

This is how we see things differently though. I see a man who is not a frail, brain damaged person who needs to be handled with kid gloves. Let's be honest he would not be in there if that was the case.

I see a very strong willed man who doesn't listen to what others have to say because he is only interested in himself. I think he knows exactly what he is doing and instigates situations to annoy people and then stands back and plays the victim. It is pretty obvious from the comments made by evicted housemates that he is not easy to cope with.

Like I have said the producers could have chosen to show him in a bad way if they had wanted but I would imagine the fact that he is a Hollywood "legend" and they have paid him lots of money they wanted their money's worth.

This is where you don't get it. I don't see a weak man either. We aren't the sum total of someone else's behaviour towards us, that doesn't mean that that behaviour is acceptable.

[NT30]

Christ it's only Gary busey..he made a few good films..so what? He's still obnoxious!
I know! I prefer the macdonalds chicken legend, James to win :)

[Pete.]

Dee rolling her eyes when Gary started singing in the diary room, she really is a vile pig, hope she gets her comeuppence.
What scum. Kick her out

[Trasadkel1]

This is where you don't get it. I don't see a weak man either. We aren't the sum total of someone else's behaviour towards us, that doesn't mean that that behaviour is acceptable.

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

[rubymoo]

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

:clap1:

[the truth]

I guess if that's your form of entertainment good for you, I hope you never have to suffer on the end of that sort of behaviour. I've also supported who has entertained me most. You know the one who barely allowed to get a word in without being shut down, shouted at and lectured. But hey we still have the honk!

agreed. bullying in groups pernicous verbal abuse, ignoring , double standards, shouting at and insulting and jeering and mocking an individual, especially a vulnerable one with major health issues, is NOT entertainment at all. its sick and its boring.

[jaxie]

I haven't excused bad behaviour however some of the posts on here are nasty and vindictive towards housemates with no real evidence as to the real circumstances that has gone on to cause them. When live feed existed we could get to know the real people. Now we base our assumptions on what Channel 5 choose to show us. My argument is how the hell can people develop such hatred for people when anyone could be edited to look bad if they cared to do it. It is being ruined by the PC brigade who cannot distinguish real life from reality in my opinion. These type of people are the ones that send abuse to actors that portray evil soap star characters:/.

And some of the posts condone horrible behaviour and some posts direct nastiness and name calling towards Gary and say he deserves it. Don't fool yourself into thinking that isn't a two way street from various people. :shrug:

As someone said the other evening to Leslie on bots, Ian I think it was. Yes the shows are edited but we can't put words into your mouth. It's still you who said those things. Editing is really irrelevant, editing hasn't put the words that I view offensive into James or Dee's mouths, that has come straight from them.

Also we see how Gary responds. I find him the better person.

[mary poppins]

I know! I prefer the macdonalds chicken legend, James to win :)

:)

[NT30]

And some of the posts condone horrible behaviour and some posts direct nastiness and name calling towards Gary and say he deserves it. Don't fool yourself into thinking that isn't a two way street from various people. :shrug:

As someone said the other evening to Leslie on bots, Ian I think it was. Yes the shows are edited but we can't put words into your mouth. It's still you who said those things. Editing is really irrelevant, editing hasn't put the words that I view offensive into James or Dee's mouths, that has come straight from them.

Also we see how Gary responds. I find him the better person.
Anyway If it's a gambling game then the odds against were on the outsiders, therefor the clever money would be on James, Edele , George and Dee as I think Gary was an early favourite

[NT30]

Someone said the odds for James was 100/1 so bet £100 you would get 10k if the syndicates prosper they chose to all bet 3k worth of votes and still b 7k up :) wish I had placed a bet :) so all the ones voting to make Gary favourite in polls just allowed the syndicates better odds. Not a betting person but interesting to see if we are all making some people a lot richer tonight :)

[beardedbloke]

Oh how the masses are so easily duped.


Pray tell me- what sort of games can they play to influence the out come of any given event or happening in the house?


Also- do tell me how the housemates in there are acting to any given situation in the house that they would act differently outside. { other than having the option to walk away}

This oh {Quote} Team Audley/ Team James - that came from Emma Willis the other night. No it's Team Right against Team Wrong.

This isn't Monoply or It's Knock About it's a game of Life and the games people play. The good and bad traits they have picked up whilst they have been on this earth are put to good use whilst they are incarcerated.

It's laughable when someone traipses out the expression "Oh he/she is playing a massive game" How? Are they using their ace card of being able to go invisible or have they snuck a cell phone in or tablet and have privy to what we are thinking and so adjusting and saying what we would like to think they want to hear?

People adjust their opinions and swap back and forth- take sides to suit their own agenda etc in the outside world. We see the exact same thing in the house. Pacts are made and broken. Friends are forged then lost.

Big Brother is the game of life. To argue that what we see isn't that person or somehow managed to project themselves into something they would never be or do on the outside world is the biggest load of bullsh!t going.

What you see is what you get.

Audley - for the most a very nice guy regular and kind
James- A nasty- vindictive- insecure and jealous- over bearing individual
Dee- Scum of the earth a bully- thief - underhand and cunning.
Edele- Sickly sweet- an image is one thing- reality another. Sly
Ricci- Steady Eddie- young and doesn't really know his own mind.
Lauren- Vacuous- self centred - a bit of a non entity- harmless
George- A set, set of ways and values all the way from Essex. Thinks he speaks for the rest of the country. Deluded little Mama's boy.
Gary- Seems a nice guy- hard to evaluate their claims of rudeness. I think we see enough of him to know that he's been ostracised and picked upon. He tried to adapt to fit in- tried to improve etc and I think in the end has thought - Fcuk you - you don't like me. I won't hate you but I will do it MY WAY. The most interesting and amusing housemate of them by a country mile. I don't think we have scratched the surface with him.

Are this lot so desperate to win ( win what?) that they would treat someone the way they are doing. As brilliant as this one was this year it will also go down as one of the most excruciatingly painful to watch at times.

what a brilliant post Delta.

You are spot on with them all - only Audley deserves a bit more than just nice and kind. He's GEORGEOUS!!!!!!! And I hope he wins.

[icecakes]

She'll probably win! :D

What come uppance can she get? She's already got a six-figure fee. ;)

Probably get her own TV show............

She'll come to a sticky end people like her always do , give them enough rope they hang themselves:shrug:

[kirklancaster]

I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

I'd take your bet and give you odds of 100/1 but it's impossible to prove so it's just more rubbish being spouted. It's totally arrogant to assume that just because you have never heard of a Hollywood Legend who has a vast catalogue of blockbuster films, not many others have.

I find it highly pertinent that you knew who fat bitch thieving Truffle Pig Dee was. :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::shrug:: shrug::shrug:

[kirklancaster]

She'll come to a sticky end people like her always do , give them enough rope they hang themselves:shrug:

Bravo. Well put. :joker::joker::joker::cheer2::cheer2:

[kirklancaster]

you need to stop throwing your rattle out of your pram and get a grip!!

Based upon all your ridiculous views, it's you who needs to get a grip - on reality. :nono::nono::nono::nono::nono::shrug::shrug::shrug ::shrug::shrug: