James Jordan: I'm not a bully!

[GiRTh]

James Jordan: I'm not a bully!

Did you feel Gary won because it might have looked liked you all ganged up on him?

I don't know. Even my wife Ola said I bullied Gary! Honestly, that's wasn't true. I don't know what you've seen. He spat everywhere, I wiped up when he pxxxed. I even showered that man and saw things a man of my age shouldn't have to see just to help him out. I hate bullies and I know I'm not a bully.


It sounds a bit like living with an ape in a sanctuary.

As George said, we weren't in there to be a baby sitters. But I helped him because I felt sorry for the guy. That said, when he was rude, of course I was going to say "Don't be rude to me." He could be incredible unpleasant and it wasn't funny.


Any further thoughts on being the Brad Pitt of the dance world...

Oh dear. It was never my intention to say seriously I was the Brad Pitt of the dance world. That will be hanging over me for the rest of my life! Again it was my humour that was misunderstood.

Do you regret anything you've ever said....

No! What are people going to do? Sue me for my opinions?


Are you trying to be a male Katie Hopkins with your controversial views?

Not really. If people ask me for my opinion, I'm happy to give it. Take Strictly. I think the show would be better with a man and a woman presenting it. That isn't taking anything away from the brilliance of Claudia. She's witty and clever. But I loved the way, Brucie came down and danced with Tess. A man and a woman can dance elegantly together around the floor and that is what the show is about, after all. That's just my opinion.


You also said, some of the dancers are a bit beige...

It's true.

Now you aren't on Strictly. What's next for you....

(Laughs) Believe it or not, I'd love to get into presenting. I'm too quirky for the BBC but there is a show for me out there. All I need is someone to believe in me as much as I beleive in myself.

Source (http://www.bestdaily.co.uk/showbiz/news/a596496/celebrity-big-brother-james-jordan-im-not-a-bully.html)

Damn!!!!!. even Ola says James bullied Gary but this tw*t still doesn't see it.

[Robodog]

So saying 'i'm the brad pitt of the dance world' was yet another one of James's 'jokes' then ?

There was nothing at the time to indicate it was a joke, no humour in his tone, nor in the conversation at any point. If anything - James seemed fairly heated when trying to explain to Gary about his 'brad pitt' status and dancing achievements.

Strange how whenever someone later picks up on something James says that's either embarrassing or rude - it just so happens he was 'only joking'.

hmmmm... :think:

[Spoon]

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

[Mick]

So saying 'i'm the brad pitt of the dance world' was yet another one of James's 'jokes' then ?

There was nothing at the time to indicate it was a joke, no humour in his tone, nor in the conversation at any point. If anything - James seemed fairly heated when trying to explain to Gary about his 'brad pitt' status and dancing achievements.

Strange how whenever someone later picks up on something James says that's either embarrassing or rude - it just so happens he was 'only joking'.

hmmmm... :think:

Honesty and humour are great characteristic's for any human to have but to use them as a justification for his behaviours is shallow and sad.

RE The Brad Pitt comment he meant it and Gary did him with just four words "Who told you that"......super honk.:laugh:

[icecakes]

God help his parents if they ever get old and needy,he'll soon have them shipped of to the old peoples home,he wants to be careful,no one know's what's round the corner one small accident,he could end up needing help just to do every day things people take for granted

[ThriceShy]

Even my wife Ola said I bullied Gary!

Well, if most of the british public said you bullied gary and now your own wife says that you bullied him, then perhaps it is time to accept that you bullied him.

[rubberface]

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

We cant be all wrong!

[Tip]

We cant be all wrong!

Quite right, as our politicians prove.

Actually I don't think he was a bully - but I think Gabrielle was spot on in calling them "gits".

[delta]

You don't think he was a bully but his wife thought he was Hmm - enough said.


Unemployable cya on benefit street with the other piece of work Meatloaf Dee. Maybe they could do a sitcom together The Bullies of Benefit Street.

[Tip]

You don't think he was a bully but his wife thought he was Hmm - enough said.


Unemployable cya on benefit street with the other piece of work Meatloaf Dee. Maybe they could do a sitcom together The Bullies of Benefit Street.

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

[Xtopher]

If it was a joke, he should have said haha.

:joker::joker:

[delta]

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.


Read this and then come back to me and see if you don't recognise his behavior in at least two of them. Sorry to hear that you were bullied and I understand what you are saying but as the article states there are so many different types of bully - I am guessing that you suffered the one that we all know?

For me it was a clear sign of bullying. He was a leader of a pack that laughed, belittled. ostracised, ridiculed a guest to this country. It was a concerted effort by two house bullies with different ways of operating to try and get him to crack. Both of these people were warned about their behavior and told in no uncertain terms that they had to change. Notice how early on in the program Bully Elliot started to 'reluctantly' help him. Not through choice. Meatloaf Dee was the same. On both occasions the ensuing help was begrudging and false.

So- clearly you bullying must have been more of the direct physical type? But for you not to recognise the above as bullying surprises me. Just to reiterate- BB did step into stop the abuse of an old man with lots of problems, the Daily Star did run a top saying the ' Most hated man in Britain" - His wife has come out and said he did bully Gary. Ofcom did receive hundreds of complaints about his mistreatment. How much evidence do you want? Oh and a large swathe of Britain thought the same.

Anyway, here you go the 6 types of bullying.


http://bullying.about.com/od/Basics/a/6-Types-Of-Bullying.htm

[Shaun]

'too quirky for the BBC'

interesting synonym for unknown, uninteresting, unpleasant and untalented

[Creggle]

He was quite decent to Gary actions wise though.

[Tip]

@Delta

I've read all the types of bullying - you can get them to fit all kinds of situations where people are being negative about others and in conflict with them. You have to take different things into account.

I do see why you feel that definition might fit, and I'm not trying to dissuade you.

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

[rusticgal]

Presenting...:joker:....nobody wants to even see your face on TV again let alone have a speaking part.
Just go back to your teaching job where you can tell people what to do to your hearts content.

[Jules2]

He was quite decent to Gary actions wise though.


Sorry no way was he decent, he pretended to help him and to bully him and then he went out and made fun of him. He didnt continue it though when Audley sat in the room with Gary, he began but then left it to Audley to talk to Gary. This was when DEE asked EDELLE and GEORGE to be quiet because Gary couldnt hear, Gary then got all the flack because he said they liked being loud. Then we get the overvamped performance of Edelle victimising herself, George telling Gary that he had been rude but hey ho off we go and off they went. Who was it Edelle was chatting to with a raised voice and telling them to be quiet etc. etc. but as she said Gary was easy pickings. Pot calling Kettle black or is it the other way around.

James was a bully and a coward in the face of Gary getting support from Audley. For one reason or another Lauren began to see the light, perhaps it was Audley putting her right and trying to get her out of the grip of that idiot DEE.

[Jules2]

@Delta

I've read all the types of bullying - you can get them to fit all kinds of situations where people are being negative about others and in conflict with them. You have to take different things into account.

I do see why you feel that definition might fit, and I'm not trying to dissuade you.

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

Many wrote to Offwat, there was also a Society who intervened, did it stop no. Dee got away threatening to smash his head in (or something to that effect) James got away with all his nasty inuendos, the worst one being to say that Gary should be in a dog pen. These are facts but nothing was done.

[Creggle]

Sorry no way was he decent, he pretended to help him and to bully him and then he went out and made fun of him. He didnt continue it though when Audley sat in the room with Gary, he began but then left it to Audley to talk to Gary. This was when DEE asked EDELLE and GEORGE to be quiet because Gary coudnt hear, Gary then got all the flack because he said they liked being loud. Then we get the overvamped performance of Edelle victimising herself, George telling Gary that he had been rude but hey ho off we go and off they went. Who was it Edelle was chatting to with a raised voice and telling them to be quiet etc. etc. but as she said Gary was easy pickings. Pot calling Kettle black or is it the other way around.

James was a bully and a coward in the face of Gary getting support from Audley. For one reason or another Lauren began to see the light, perhaps it was Audley putting her right and trying to get her out of the grip of that idiot DEE.

He still did alot for Gary

[Liam-]

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

[Jules2]

Yep, I don't define bully the same way apparently, and maybe Gary and BB doesn't either?

I'm with a lot of other people in thinking that if you overuse the "bully" card you do a great disservice to those that are being bullied.

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

I have been watching it since the beginning and have come to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to have it closed down, perhaps some should look into it for the sake of the oncoming youngsters. There are many who think the same and if they arent careful it will come to fruition.

[Jamesy]

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

[Jules2]

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

If someone does something for anyone it should be done with a good heart and not with the intention of going outside and stirring the pot for this is what James did. When he went into the DR he moreorless told them that Gary was going to be ostricised but they were clever and gave him credit for something which he didnt deserve. They then asked him to make sure Gary wasnt, thus he began his preaching, preening but continued his spuddling.

[Tip]

Many wrote to Offwat, there was also a Society who intervened, did it stop no. Dee got away threatening to smash his head in (or something to that effect) James got away with all his nasty inuendos, the worst one being to say that Gary should be in a dog pen. These are facts but nothing was done.


These "facts" didn't stop people watching it all night after night - they don't want BBs viewing figures to be affected or something?

BB had stated that they were monitoring the situation regarding Gary, and did warn Stephanie for bullying.

I'm saying that without the full picture of what is going on, maybe it really wasn't quite the way some people are interpreting it.

I didn't see it as bullying but I do accept that people were being nasty "gits".

Don't support the program if you think it is permitting bullying?

Edited to add: I wrote this without seeing a post above. If you are now "thinking" about not watching this program I guess that's something, but do you regret watching this series now?

[Liam-]

If someone does something for anyone it should be done with a good heart and not with the intention of going outside and stirring the pot for this is what James did. When he went into the DR he moreorless told them that Gary was going to be ostricised but they were clever and gave him credit for something which he didnt deserve. They then asked him to make sure Gary wasnt, thus he began his preaching, preening but continued his spuddling.

A good thing is a good thing, in my eyes it makes him an even better man for going out of his way to help someone he didn't like tbh.

[Jules2]

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

I blame the HMs for thinking that Gary was below them, they saw a 70 year old with hearing disabilities and assumed he was not all there. They should have all taken each other on face value, helped each other and not segregated one person. Had they exchanged values we could have learnt more, they could still have had fun. I dont suppose that Gary went in there to babysit the stupidity of supposed younger people who didnt know their own minds. Shall we kiss, or wont we, do we like each other or dont we? Mama Dee help me, lets all have a cuddle the old man has said something....arghhhhhhhhhhh pathetic.

Gary had every right to be in there and for me I would love it if we had more entertaining celebrities, real celebrities with solid experiences. No jealousy and no trying to outdo each other. Naturally though it was a game but the egos were disgustingly unbearable. What were they after, after all they received their money it wasnt like that other miserable one we saw. All they had to do was to get along and enjoy the moment. Pee in the pool, drink the water, pull ones trousers down when an older man who should have known better, hits one on the posterior with a towel, very hygenic that was. Jump on mama yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....where was the fun in all that?

[Tip]

As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

[Jules2]

He still did alot for Gary

Yes he made it worse for him and he did it with relish.

[Jules2]

As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

I saw that Tip and I agree re the word celebrity. I am quite enjoying the fact of going into one link and it leading to another. The chip is a fantastic thing, it gives us a door to the rest of the planet. I havent even watched XFactor yet, there was talk of it being fixed right at the beginning so what is the point. Will look forward to Celebrity Get Me Out of Here I love Ant and Dec and I have to admit that I do not get so involved with the jungle mates.

[Patricia4]

He was nasty and he was the leader when james said something awful about Gary they all laught and made fun of Gary.
Good for his wife to tell him.
The only thing I agree with and that I like a man and women to host the dancing.

[Vanessa]

Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10616529_10202914227840249_4102741504168802304_n.j pg?oh=6f014684527bf1a548f94e6870dfff54&oe=5491F259&__gda__=1419623394_972aad5f1ed648e8440fbc0e7900839 2

[icecakes]

Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10616529_10202914227840249_4102741504168802304_n.j pg?oh=6f014684527bf1a548f94e6870dfff54&oe=5491F259&__gda__=1419623394_972aad5f1ed648e8440fbc0e7900839 2

Thats brilliant Vanessa,sums them up perfectly :joker::joker:

[bots]

Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10616529_10202914227840249_4102741504168802304_n.j pg?oh=6f014684527bf1a548f94e6870dfff54&oe=5491F259&__gda__=1419623394_972aad5f1ed648e8440fbc0e7900839 2

:laugh::laugh:

[Vanessa]

That group on facebook is hilarious! :laugh3:

[Pincho Paxton]

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

They could be in there to be baby sitters. One year they had a mechanical baby that kept crying all of the time... I think.

[Kazanne]

Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10616529_10202914227840249_4102741504168802304_n.j pg?oh=6f014684527bf1a548f94e6870dfff54&oe=5491F259&__gda__=1419623394_972aad5f1ed648e8440fbc0e7900839 2

:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

[the truth]

Honesty and humour are great characteristic's for any human to have but to use them as a justification for his behaviours is shallow and sad.

RE The Brad Pitt comment he meant it and Gary did him with just four words "Who told you that"......super honk.:laugh:

i know its hilarious gary trumped him effortlessly every time...ultimately gary is a kinder more genuine warm hearted soul, its ironic the hollywood legend was more humble than any of them even the workshy lard ass devious dee
God bless you gary

[rusticgal]

He still did alot for Gary

So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.

[Vanessa]

:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

:hehe:

[Cherie]

George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.


:umm2:

[poppsywoppsy]

A good thing is a good thing, in my eyes it makes him an even better man for going out of his way to help someone he didn't like tbh.

He did it and then ridiculed Gary in every way possible, he didn't do it selflessly, he did it to show what a good caring person he was and if he had left it at that, he would have been correct.

But he then ridiculed him, lectured him, talked down to him, was horrendously patronizing while telling Gary, He/James was in the right when he was in most peoples view, bullying and being totally the opposite to what he thought he was and no one was falling for his BS.

If he had been what he said, he would have helped Gary and not been as he was, listing


every time he helped Gary and thought he should get kudos for doing it whilst in reality he was bullying an elderly man, consistently and nastily trying every method to get him thrown out of the house.

Audley did it right, he did not fall for James BS, he did not go along with the gang and was always his own person and said what he had to say.

James and Dee are rightfully being damned for their horrendous behaviour towards Gary which continued even into the BBBOTS programme.

I so agree that the put down of the series was when James said he was the Brad Pitt of the dancing world and Gary said, Who told you that.

Simple, deadly and straight to the point, Gary owned James that moment and let's hope James hears it every day for the rest of his self serving life.

[GiRTh]

So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.:thumbs:

[Angelika]

I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

I watched every night to be able to report the bullying to OFCOM. I made numerous complaints and so did other people. I eventully found my way onto this forum to keep the pressure up by making comments about Gary's apalling treatment. I would have stopped watching CBB as soon as Gary was evicted. As it happens Gary won so all my writing on here, and to OFCOM was worthwhile.

Not surprising my email tag line is :
"Our lives begin to end the day we decide to keep silent about things that matter". Martin Luther King Jr.

So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

The bullying was horrendous and very difficult to watch. This CBB has been a wake-up call, it's shown the very worst human traits in action. I am even more convinced now than ever that under the right circumstances seemingly nice people can become evil and lose all inhibitions and resort to very cruel and barbaric behaviour. George Orwell's Animal Farm comes to mind!

[Angelika]

:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

:joker::joker::joker:

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville! :cheer2::hehe:

[Vanessa]

:joker::joker::joker:

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville! :cheer2::hehe:

Stick all of them on it, except Gary and Audley! :joker:

[Angelika]

I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

Anything James did was for himself!
He used Gary and then abused him over and over again.

James is a vile and cruel bully who was not pulled up nearly enough by his peers or BB. Every HM in CBB were terrified of James and joined him rather than opposed him on everything in order to have a quiet life. While James was picking on Gary Busey with the tacit support of the other HM's each HM kept their head down and later joined in with James's behaviour. Despicable creeps!

[joeysteele]

He came across as bullying,in that he seemed to be forcing Gary to do things and behave the way James felt he should behave.

It may not have been bullying in the full sense of the word but it was certainly an attempt to control another person and have them conform to what he thought was the right way to behave.

In that whether a form of bullying or not,his attitude to Gary as to near all issues were disrespectful at best but were certainly highly offensive.

[Angelika]

Stick all of them on it, except Gary and Audley! :joker:

That might become a project of mine. I'm OK on Photoshop! :joker:

[Patricia4]

:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

He might be in the boot with Edele keeping out of the way of another twat Stephanie.

[Angelika]

He came across as bullying,in that he seemed to be forcing Gary to do things and behave the way James felt he should behave.

It may not have been bullying in the full sense of the word but it was certainly an attempt to control another person and have them conform to what he thought was the right way to behave.

In that whether a form of bullying or not,his attitude to Gary as to near all issues were disrespectful at best but were certainly highly offensive.

Much of Gary's bumbling behaviour may have been from the constant barrage of abuse and accusations from the HM's. Much of what they accused Gary of was highly exaggerated and unfair, IMO.

[Angelika]

He might be in the boot with Edele keeping out of the way of another twat Stephanie.

Stephanie was not amused last night! She must have seen Edele and George fumbling under the covers.

Steph, George is not worth waiting for!

[Angelika]

If Gary was genuinely being bullied then what were people doing watching it and not trying getting the program shut down?

I have already answered a similar question #43
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7267062&highlight=#post7267062

[QUOTE=Tip;7266277]I'm speaking as one that has been bullied and has seen bullying going on and stepped in to get it stopped, but I don't claim to be an expert.

Some people don't recognise when they are being bullied or being abused, Gary had great insight and did realise that every one of his fellow HM's hated him.

Gary was abused and bullied endlessly in the CBB house by almost every other housemate incredibly.

[joeysteele]

Much of Gary's bumbling behaviour may have been from the constant barrage of abuse and accusations from the HM's. Much of what they accused Gary of was highly exaggerated and unfair, IMO.

I totally agree with that Angelika,good points.

[Tip]

There's lots of opinions - we are all entitled to ours and to think we're right.

I know in the past, complaints about bullying have been dealt with fairly swiftly one way or another - so it's interesting what's happening here.

I'm very surprised people aren't expressing more vitriol towards BB seeing as they stated specifically that they take care of hms before during and after the show and were monitoring Gary especially.

Why do you think BB wouldn't be living up to that responsibility?

[bots]

There's lots of opinions - we are all entitled to ours and to think we're right.

I know in the past, complaints about bullying have been dealt with fairly swiftly one way or another - so it's interesting what's happening here.

I'm very surprised people aren't expressing more vitriol towards BB seeing as they stated specifically that they take care of hms before during and after the show and were monitoring Gary especially.

Why do you think BB wouldn't be living up to that responsibility?

I'm not sure that channel 5 has much social responsibility. Unless someone is in danger of kicking lumps out of another person, they will let it continue. They will play the social experiment ticket the majority of the time. Where they will have an issue is where a housemate directly complains about some behaviour, then they will need to issue a warning.

I don't particularly want to get into the whole bullying thing again, as we had on the normal BB. My view is that BB could have directed the goings on in the house at any time adjusting things in a subtle way to reduce tensions, and failed to do so, thus making it uncomfortable viewing, at least for me.

I won't be watching any further conflict driven BB's, I've had more than enough of it. So the producers will need to make some serious changes before i watch again.

[Angelika]

There's lots of opinions - we are all entitled to ours and to think we're right.

I know in the past, complaints about bullying have been dealt with fairly swiftly one way or another - so it's interesting what's happening here.

I'm very surprised people aren't expressing more vitriol towards BB seeing as they stated specifically that they take care of hms before during and after the show and were monitoring Gary especially.

Why do you think BB wouldn't be living up to that responsibility?

OFCOM is the official TV and media watchdog. It should be far more effective
to complain to OFCOM than to BB. The opposite may be the case of course, that should be a point to watch.

I agree that there seems to have been very little done for all the complaints and comments of concern from the public.

[Pincho Paxton]

Ola has changed her mind, and says that James is definitely not a bully...

... and she also says that she got her black eye falling down some steps.

[Jules2]

Ola has changed her mind, and says that James is definitely not a bully...

... and she also says that she got her black eye falling down some steps.

Are you kidding has she really got a black eye :joker: Too late Ola you obviously told him the truth, dont make yourself into a liar now. He still hasnt learnt anything and carries on with his sourgrapes interviews. The majority will take it all with a pinch of salt knowing what a horrible creature he is.

Guide him and tell him to come down off of his high horse, he lost to the two who he deemed lesser individuals. He is class conscious and considers himself well above the two. Sadly the majority of the public do not agree with him, we cannot all be wrong now can we?

[Jules2]

That group on facebook is hilarious! :laugh3:

Omgoodness where do you get them all from!! :cheer2:

[Robodog]

Ola has changed her mind, and says that James is definitely not a bully...

... and she also says that she got her black eye falling down some steps.

:joker:

[Liam-]

Ola has changed her mind, and says that James is definitely not a bully...

... and she also says that she got her black eye falling down some steps.

That's disgusting :nono:

[Pincho Paxton]

That's disgusting :nono:

How so? Explain in detail your analysis.:pipe2:

[ThriceShy]

That's disgusting :nono:

It wasn't as bad as the things james said about people. If james can be "brutal" and proud of it then why can't we be brutal about James?

[Liam-]

It wasn't as bad as the things james said about people. If james can be "brutal" and proud of it then why can't we be brutal about James?

He never insinuated that anyone in there beat up their wives, or other halves, that's just beyond below the belt.

[Liam-]

How so? Explain in detail your analysis.:pipe2:

You don't think there's anything wrong with insinuating a man beats his wife just because you don't like him?

[Pincho Paxton]

He never insinuated that anyone in there beat up their wives, or other halves, that's just beyond below the belt.


You don't think there's anything wrong with insinuating a man beats his wife just because you don't like him?

What? So a joke is serious to you, but all of the real insults in the house like blaming Gary for exposing himself, and all ganging up on him is fine? How do you work that out? You need to do a reality check. What is real, and what is a joke.

[Liam-]

What? So a joke is serious to you, but all of the real insults in the house like blaming Gary for exposing himself, and all ganging up on him is fine? How do you work that out?

Difference being, Gary did expose himself.. no-one in that house this year has said anything as bad as what you just did.

[Pincho Paxton]

Difference being, Gary did expose himself.. no-one in that house this year has said anything as bad as what you just did.

No he didn't, that's the point. He had a bad knee, he was fixing it, and his shirt covered him mostly.

[Liam-]

No he didn't, that's the point. He had a bad knee, he was fixing it, and his shirt covered him mostly.

He pulled his trousers down, people saw bits of him.. insinuating someone beats his wife because he might have said a few unsavory things is awful, but, even if it was a joke, domestic violence is not something to joke about anyway, either way the comment was disgusting.

[Kazanne]

He pulled his trousers down, people saw bits of him.. insinuating someone beats his wife because he might have said a few unsavory things is awful, but, even if it was a joke, domestic violence is not something to joke about anyway, either way the comment was disgusting.

So did George infact we got a full moon and James happily flicking it with a Tea towel how very hygienic of this biggest of hypocrites.:nono:

[Pincho Paxton]

He pulled his trousers down, people saw bits of him.. insinuating someone beats his wife because he might have said a few unsavory things is awful, but, even if it was a joke, domestic violence is not something to joke about anyway, either way the comment was disgusting.

Ok, so you take jokes as real, and reality as jokes. You keep saying that we don't get James humour. I don't get your humour.

[ThriceShy]

He never insinuated that anyone in there beat up their wives, or other halves, that's just beyond below the belt.

He said far worse. As did all of his gang.

[Kazanne]

That's disgusting :nono:

Oh lighten up Liam it's clearly a joke.

[ThriceShy]

Difference being, Gary did expose himself.. no-one in that house this year has said anything as bad as what you just did.

Both Ricci and Leslie insinuated that Gary was a bad role model to his son or nasty to his son.

James called Gary and Frenchy "freakos."

[Liam-]

So did George infact we got a full moon and James happily flicking it with a Tea towel how very hygienic of this biggest of hypocrites.:nono:

I'm not talking about though am i? I'm not even disagreeing with that, it was hypocritical yes :laugh:

[Liam-]

Oh lighten up Liam it's clearly a joke.

I might be old before my time, but when did it ever become acceptable to joke about domestic abuse? Thats the lowest of the low.

[Liam-]

Both Ricci and Leslie insinuated that Gary was a bad role model to his son or nasty to his son.

James called Gary and Frenchy "freakos."

Ricci outright said that yes, which no-one agreed was right, that's not nothing to do with JAmes though.

Yes he did, because they're strange and different, a little name like that equates to the allowing people to insinuate that he beats his wife?

[ThriceShy]

Ricci outright said that yes, which no-one agreed was right, that's not nothing to do with JAmes though.

Yes he did, because they're strange and different, a little name like that equates to the allowing people to insinuate that he beats his wife?

Read the bold bit I was replying to. You said that nobody in the house had said anything that bad.

James was laughing and smirking when Ricci said that about James' son so I think it is fair to insinuate he beats his wife.

[Kazanne]

I might be old before my time, but when did it ever become acceptable to joke about domestic abuse? Thats the lowest of the low.

Well I'de say "Smashing someones back doors in" is tantamount to abuse !!!! from the big I am himself.

[Liam-]

Read the bold bit I was replying to. You said that nobody in the house had said anything that bad.

James was laughing and smirking when Ricci said that about James' son so I think it is fair to insinuate he beats his wife.

Because he laughs at something someone says it's 'fair' to insinuate that he beats his wife?.. that's some ****ed up logic that i don't want to be a part of.

[Liam-]

Well I'de say "Smashing someones back doors in" is tantamount to abuse !!!! from the big I am himself.

Abuse?.. It's an expression for having sex with someone, a grim one, but how on earth is that abusive?.. the excuses people make in order to justify vile remarks like the one we're discussing is worrying, I'm gone before i get myself warnings.

[Pincho Paxton]

I might be old before my time, but when did it ever become acceptable to joke about domestic abuse? Thats the lowest of the low.

Yes it's acceptable, so long as its a funny joke. It's been acceptable for at least 30 years.

[ThriceShy]

Because he laughs at something someone says it's 'fair' to insinuate that he beats his wife?.. that's some ****ed up logic that i don't want to be a part of.

Well james clearly condoned what Ricci said about gary's son. So he can't object if someone wants to insinuate he beats his wife.

[Pincho Paxton]

Well james clearly condoned what Ricci said about gary's son. So he can't object if someone wants to insinuate he beats his wife.

I didn't insinuate it. I joked about it. Different.

[ThriceShy]

I didn't insinuate it. I joked about it. Different.

The james fans are just still smarting. Like James, they will twist anything.

[Pincho Paxton]

The james fans are just still smarting. Like James, they will twist anything.

Not your fault, I should have pointed it out earlier. I forgot.

[sassysocks]

I might be old before my time, but when did it ever become acceptable to joke about domestic abuse? Thats the lowest of the low.

Yet you condone Jame's abuse of Gary. Double standards!

The abuse of a brain-damaged old man is equally deplorable.

[Angelika]

Well I'de say "Smashing someones back doors in" is tantamount to abuse !!!! from the big I am himself.

And I agree with you 1000%

The comment from James about "smashing in some poor gilrs back doors" was a very sexually agressive comment. It offended me and many millions of people of both sexes. It has been the single worst comment I have ever heard on TV or radio.

The comment came straight from Jame's mouth as advice to a much younger man - how revolting! If people inadvertantly get the "wrong impression" about James :joker::joker: (I personally don't think so), its all his own foolish doing.

People who talk aggressively, imo, tend to act aggressively or will eventually act aggressively. We are what we talk!

[the truth]

james is a grotesque boring bully. worse still hes a jealous spiteful fake disingenuous control freak. he picks out the weakest and gets the group to systematically bully them. he is pure evil , its scum like that , that create so much misery in the world. goodness knows how much worse he is behind closed doors.

[delta]

And I agree with you 1000%

The comment from James about "smashing in some poor gilrs back doors" was a very sexually agressive comment. It offended me and many millions of people of both sexes. It has been the single worst comment I have ever heard on TV or radio.

The comment came straight from Jame's mouth as advice to a much younger man - how revolting! If people inadvertantly get the "wrong impression" about James :joker::joker: (I personally don't think so), its all his own foolish doing.

People who talk aggressively, imo, tend to act aggressively or will eventually act aggressively. We are what we talk!


Just to back up the above Richard Keyes one time GMTV Good Morning presenter who then went on to anchor Sky TV football with Andy Gray.. Got an immediate dismissal for using the self same expression when he was caught out pre-match and didn't realise the cameras were still rolling.


Besides, Bully Elliot according to Meatloaf Dee is hung like the proverbial Field Mouse so would have trouble reaching the doors never mind anything else. Bluster and wishful thinking from a self obsessed angry, domineering individual.

[kirklancaster]

Just to back up the above Richard Keyes one time GMTV Good Morning presenter who then went on to anchor Sky TV football with Andy Gray.. Got an immediate dismissal for using the self same expression when he was caught out pre-match and didn't realise the cameras were still rolling.


Besides, Bully Elliot according to Meatloaf Dee is hung like the proverbial Field Mouse so would have trouble reaching the doors never mind anything else. Bluster and wishful thinking from a self obsessed angry, domineering individual.

Eureka!!! By gad sir you have solved the mystery of why Sissy-Boy James is so aggressive and confrontational - he suffers from penis envy. :joker::joker::joker:

[Mick]

Eureka!!! By gad sir you have solved the mystery of why Sissy-Boy James is so aggressive and confrontational - he suffers from penis envy. :joker::joker::joker:

A little one behaving like a big one.:laugh:

[Marsh.]

More homo games on Celeb Juice. He seemed very skilled and comfortable with a hairy arse in his face.

[kirklancaster]

A little one behaving like a big one.:laugh:

:joker::joker::joker:

[kirklancaster]

More homo games on Celeb Juice. He seemed very skilled and comfortable with a hairy arse in his face.

:clap1::clap1::joker::joker:

[delta]

How long before he shows up on Loose women??

[kirklancaster]

How long before he shows up on Loose women??

LMAO!!:joker::joker::joker::clap1::clap1:

[Suze]

How long before he shows up on Loose women??

As part of the panel?

[Rob!]

Says the Brad Pitt line was a joke - thinks he's too quirky for the BBC. :facepalm:

[Liam-]

Damn you George, you've just opened a can of worms! :fist: :laugh:

[LukeB]

are we bumping old big brother threads now :laugh:

[delta]

Ha, ha, ha. ha


Ola just relieved on the 'One Show' that she removes the spiders from their house and is less scared of them than her husband 'Bully'

[Liam-]

Why are you bumping this? You haven't been around here for ages and just decide to bump this to say that he doesn't like spiders? The show finished ages ago, get over it :joker:

[delta]

Why are you bumping this? You haven't been around here for ages and just decide to bump this to say that he doesn't like spiders? The show finished ages ago, get over it :joker:


Oh dear, get over it your man lost ( said in the loosest of terms) the Bully Elliot & Meatloaf Dee watch still goes on. I see the latter has been refused entry to the good old USA.:dance::dance::dance:

[Liam-]

Umm.. I am over it tyvm, the show finished months ago, you're the one obviously still interesting in James :laugh:

[Kazanne]

In a nutshell,James Jordan is a knob.