Male chivalry ending?

[alex_front2]

On fairly packed train back from work there was a four seater near me with one space (window seat) and rest occupied by men.
A very attractive blond woman (about 24/ 25) rocks up and shows a heavy box and says to the shaggy haired aisle seat guy (about 23/24)something like "would you mind if I take your seat and you move to window one? The shaggy haired guy says "no I'd rather stay here" forcing her to a window seat with a heavy box. The guy in the opposite aisle seat burying his head in the papers but the guy in the opposite window seat resssuringly bemusedly smirking with her at the first guy.
:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:


About 1 min later another man and another pretty woman approach, discover at almost the same time that seat next to me is vacant. The man gets here first but the woman kind of expects him to forfeit it but he does not and sits next to me. :shocked:

I' ve noticed a change in men nowadays eg pregnant woman stnding...not a bad thing imo.

Is this a good thing you think? Equality and all that

[GiRTh]

I dont see a problem the girls were unlucky. Should have been quicker.

[Brother Leon]

The woman wasn't pregnant, with a kid or elderly. I always give my seat up for them, but I'm not doing it for every woman that gets on.

[Z]

I think it's a bit condescending in a way to give up your seat for someone but the guy sounds like a dick for not moving up

[Kizzy]

Some people are just twunts.... There are still nice people about.

[MTVN]

Sounds like the first guy was being a nobhead for no reason, and it sounds like the second guy was just being a nobhead

If the tube or the train I'm in is even vaguely busy I always stand to avoid the awkward dilemma of wondering if I should ever give my seat up or not. Sometimes it's obvious - pregnant, old etc. - but always wonder if some people might not appreciate me offering my seat in case it's seen as condescending or something

[Kizzy]

It's polite to ask if you see someone struggling, if they have an issue with the offer it's a problem on their part not yours.

[MTVN]

That sounds very reasonable kizzy, I think you are quite right

I still am generally quite happy standing though because it is what all us casual blokes do on the evening trains, have a lean and read the good old Evening Standard

[billy123]

It is a bit of a leap to question Male chivalry as a whole based on the back of something you saw on a train one day.

[Kyle]

I would always stand for a pregnant woman, elderly woman, woman with bags in her hand etc.

I don't make it a policy to just give up my seat for any woman but if she asked I would have no problem doing it. It's the honourable thing.

[Northern Monkey]

If she was pregnant,Old or pretty then i'd give her my seat.

[Locke.]

Women are always moaning about being treated equal, it has its negative sides too I'm afraid.

[JoshBB]

If she was pregnant, then fair enough, he should have given up the seat. However apart from that, I don't believe that either gender should be treated like royalty, both are equal.

[Raph]

Women are always moaning about being treated equal, it has its negative sides too I'm afraid.

:clap1:

[kirklancaster]

I still always hold doors open for women and always used to give up my seat to them on public transport when I used to use it, and probably received/receive 2 smiles and 5 thank you's by way of gratitude out of every 100 instances - the rest have either looked at me like I'm a pervert or ignored me.

No, I don't look like Quasimodo or Jimmy Savile :nono::nono::nono:

[alex_front2]

Women are always moaning about being treated equal, it has its negative sides too I'm afraid.

Yes, I am hearing this a lot from men. Guess a man wouldn't expect it from another guy so why should women.

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't expect a man to give up his seat just because you're a girl, for a pregnant woman yeah but then I would also expect another woman to give her seat to a pregnant woman or an elderly person.

The first guy sounded like a bit of a dick though tbf

[Tom4784]

If someone needs my seat more then I do I'll give it up otherwise I won't. The first guy sounded like a dickhead though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It is a bit of a leap to question Male chivalry as a whole based on the back of something you saw on a train one day.

lol

pretty much this

[Vicky.]

First guy sounds a total arsehole being awkward just for the sake of it. But I wouldnt expect anyone to give up their seat just because I am a woman. People offer quite often but I always politely decline, why should they stand for the sake of me sitting just because I am a woman? :shrug:

Having said that I did get fairly agitated when I was (obviously) heavily pregnant and not one person offered me a seat on quite a packed bus. Not sure if it was the hormones though

I always offer my seat to people struggling, be they younger with a load of bags, or elderly or whatever.

[Crimson Dynamo]

why did the blonde bird want a seat by the aisle just because she had an alleged heavy box?

The box goes on the table or above in the rack?

[Livia]

I wouldn't expect a man to give up his seat just because you're a girl, for a pregnant woman yeah but then I would also expect another woman to give her seat to a pregnant woman or an elderly person.

The first guy sounded like a bit of a dick though tbf

Quite agree with all of that. I pay the same for my Tube ticket at a man would, I'm fit and healthy, no need for anyone to give up their seat for me. And yeah, I'd definitely stand and give a pregnant/elderly/disabled person my seat.