Please may the C&G posts count? (POLL)

[T*]

It's off season, and at the end of the day a post is a post, so can we please have the posts count?
(I tried this thread on NYE but it snowballed into a thread with arguments with mods, etc. Please may we keep it civil in here :) )

[Margarine.]

Here for it

Mother Tomresa

[Rob!]

My post count if this happened :flutter:

[MB.]

Scott's post count if this happened :worry:

[reece(:]

Not here 4 it.

[T*]

Scottish Referendum teas

[MB.]

Scottish Referendum teas

I can see the resemblance to Alex Salmond

[T*]

There have been some beautiful, well written posts in Chat and Games, it's only fair if it was included.

[T*]

The poll is closing tomorrow, either way, I hope the admins listen to their members opinions <3

[Marsh.]

Really don't think it matters at all.

[Liam-]

I can't see a reason why they shouldn't count tbh.

[Shaun]

I voted 'no' just because I don't really care about it and it's where most of the spam is.

[Margarine.]

I voted 'no' just because I don't really care about it and it's where most of the spam is.

Aka your posts :smug:

[T*]

Aka your posts :smug:

Ay, we don't want this thread closed, do we.

[Shaun]

xVzJIrpharU

[MB.]

Aka your posts :smug:

:umm2: The whole forum isn't an I'm a Celebrity game

[T*]

I voted 'no' just because I don't really care about it and it's where most of the spam is.

Well, on the old forum, C&G posts used to count, correct? Then surely the majority of your post count is from that?

[MB.]

And for my two pennies' worth, I'm not really bothered either way

[Black Dagger]

Noty

[Shaun]

Well, on the old forum, C&G posts used to count, correct? Then surely the majority of your post count is from that?

I think they were turned off around the time the chat threads (the early incarnations of The Lounge, The Brotherhood, Zeta, and whatever the Nailsworth/Smithy's lot threads were called) popped up. I don't think the admins had much of a problem with 'game' posts counting because they were, for the most part, relevant to the topic and didn't go on for 50+ pages (let alone 500 :laugh:)

It's just commonplace now for threads to go on and on forever with just 'chat' which - whilst completely fine - isn't really thought about I guess?

I don't know, like I said I don't really mind :laugh: I'm not all that opposed to the idea.

[Jack_]

I've never really understood this rule. Well I do, but it doesn't make sense. A post count is a measure of the number of posts you have made on a forum, if you're going to display a post count then discounting certain sections of the forum means the figure isn't accurate...so it's not a post count, is it? Might as well just get rid of it

I don't think it would increase spamming as seems to be claimed (and is the reason behind it) but if it did then just ban those people? Spamming is already against the rules after all

I mean either have a post count properly or don't have one at all :shrug:

[T*]

I think they were turned off around the time the chat threads (the early incarnations of The Lounge, The Brotherhood, Zeta, and whatever the Nailsworth/Smithy's lot threads were called) popped up. I don't think the admins had much of a problem with 'game' posts counting because they were, for the most part, relevant to the topic and didn't go on for 50+ pages (let alone 500 :laugh:)

It's just commonplace now for threads to go on and on forever with just 'chat' which - whilst completely fine - isn't really thought about I guess?

I don't know, like I said I don't really mind :laugh: I'm not all that opposed to the idea.

Good Points!
But, say you're working very hard on something (e.g ICB) and the posts don't count even though you've worked tremendously hard on it, do you not think that should count?

[reece(:]

Posts aren't that important really, and it'll be scary seeing people with over 100k :umm2:

[T*]

I've never really understood this rule. Well I do, but it doesn't make sense. A post count is a measure of the number of posts you have made on a forum, if you're going to display a post count then discounting certain sections of the forum means the figure isn't accurate...so it's not a post count, is it? Might as well just get rid of it

I don't think it would increase spamming as seems to be claimed (and is the reason behind it) but if it did then just ban those people? Spamming is already against the rules after all

I mean either have a post count properly or don't have one at all :shrug:

I cannot agree more

[MTVN]

Nah not gonna happen

[T*]

Nah not gonna happen

Thank you for your words of wisdom

[Margarine.]

:umm2: The whole forum isn't an I'm a Celebrity game

This is brand new information

[Samm]

If they where to be allowed what I don't mind then it should only start from the day they have been allowed or there will be members with like 200k+ etc :unsure:

[T*]

I mean- We keep the forum active during off season in C&G, so shouldn't we be getting it as sort of like a thank you? Without us chatting, playing forum games etc. This forum would be dead during off season, with an odd bb rumour every month or so.

[T*]

If they where to be allowed what I don't mind then it should only start from the day they have been allowed or there will be members with like 200k+ etc :unsure:

That's what I mean :)

[Jack_]

Posts aren't that important really, and it'll be scary seeing people with over 100k :umm2:

They aren't and I'm not really bothered but it's just the fact the count is inaccurate that I find frustrating because it's just silly. It's like having a pedometer and saying 'well I'm going to discount the steps I made up and down the stairs today cause they don't really matter'...well they're steps and it's counting how many steps you make in a day so yes they do. A post count is counting the number of times you have made a post on a forum, just because certain sections are excluded it doesn't mean they're not posts

It's illogical to have an inaccurate count of something :shrug:

[T*]

I've been here 5 years (3, if you don't count the 2 years I was banned for) and I only have 4,000 odd posts. I contribute a lot to C&G, and theres rarely a day where I don't check in on TiBB.

[reece(:]

They aren't and I'm not really bothered but it's just the fact the count is inaccurate that I find frustrating because it's just silly. It's like having a pedometer and saying 'well I'm going to discount the steps I made up and down the stairs today cause they don't really matter'...well they're steps and it's counting how many steps you make in a day so yes they do. A post count is counting the number of times you have made a post on a forum, just because certain sections are excluded it doesn't mean they're not posts

It's illogical to have an inaccurate count of something :shrug:
I guess that's true, I don't really care either way anyhow.

[MB.]

This is brand new information

My point being that we're allowed to have conversations without trying to begin arguments every other five minutes

If C&G posts go towards the post count, won't that encourage newbies to sign up to games during off season more? I mean, going off previous experience, they'd probably be welcomed more into it if they had 2,000 posts rather than 200 (if that makes sense :umm2:)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Scott's post count if this happened :worry:

this :worry:

[T*]

If we don't count the Mod's votes, The Yes vote has more than double the amount than the No votes :amazed: keep it going guys!

[Headie]

If we don't count the Mod's votes, The Yes vote has more than double the amount than the No votes :amazed: keep it going guys!

The poll is meaningless tho unless mods have actually agreed to make the decision based on the poll :laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

MessTVN

[Locke.]

Nope, 46k is sad enough as it is, don't want to be up there with the even sadder bastards on over 50k

[Sophiee]

I've never really understood this rule. Well I do, but it doesn't make sense. A post count is a measure of the number of posts you have made on a forum, if you're going to display a post count then discounting certain sections of the forum means the figure isn't accurate...so it's not a post count, is it? Might as well just get rid of it

I don't think it would increase spamming as seems to be claimed (and is the reason behind it) but if it did then just ban those people? Spamming is already against the rules after all

I mean either have a post count properly or don't have one at all :shrug:
totally agree with this.

[T*]

Nope, 46k is sad enough as it is, don't want to be up there with the even sadder bastards on over 50k

Just because you have many posts doesn't mean anyone else shouldn't

[Marc]

No cos '.'

shouldn't count

[MTVN]

Locke is right, we all have too many posts as it is

[Marc]

Also the top ten posters with C&G posts included as pretty much the same as the top ten on the members list

[Firewire]

post counts are pointless

[T*]

Also the top ten posters with C&G posts included as pretty much the same as the top ten on the members list

No, that's not what I mean, from the date the posts do count, not all the previous c&g posts added

[Headie]

No cos '.'

shouldn't count

.

[Marc]

I don't know what your saying?

[Marc]

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Messy

[MB.]

Messy

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[T*]

I don't know what your saying?

Right, so when the C&G posts do count, only the posts from then on are added.

[Jay.]

I don't see why not, I like change.

[LukeB]

This has to happen.

[Amy Jade]

I never knew they didn't count and I don't see why they actually don't.

[mooo]

Here for people having 12134543234 posts

[Jordan.]

Why this thread again

[andybigbro]

No.

[LukeB]

No.

but i could of had my 10k award by now :(

[Smithy]

I voted no, but honestly why would you want a high post count

"Look how much free time I have to post on a big brother forum"

[Firewire]

I voted no, but honestly why would you want a high post count

"Look how much free time I have to post on a big brother forum"

not miss smithy with 41k posts

[T*]

I wonder if some of the no voters would have a meltdown if it was gone all together

[Headie]

but i could of had my 10k award by now :(

If you hadn't made 2 accounts you would have been on 11k :p

[andybigbro]

but i could of had my 10k award by now :(

You're not far off it Luke :)

Chat and games is the place were people can post silly threads etc, and posts that would be seen as spam on other parts of the forum. If posts started counting, all that would have to stop.

[michael21]

tom ten years from now you look back on this thread and laugh

[T*]

tom ten years from now you look back on this thread and laugh

http://i.imgur.com/Gks6HxH.gif

[LukeB]

If you hadn't made 2 accounts you would have been on 11k :p

i had reasons for making another account, when i made this account i couldn't get in my other because i had forgot my password and email address to it, but that account has been deleted now which i asked josy to do as she already knew

[LukeB]

You're not far off it Luke :)

Chat and games is the place were people can post silly threads etc, and posts that would be seen as spam on other parts of the forum. If posts started counting, all that would have to stop.

true especially my thread about vile things :laugh:

[Headie]

i had reasons for making another account, when i made this account i couldn't get in my other because i had forgot my password and email address to it, but that account has been deleted now which i asked josy to do as she already knew

Ok, I was just saying if you still used that account you'd be on 11k :p

[michael21]

http://i.imgur.com/Gks6HxH.gif

tom i am going to be working around the clock to get your post count to 0

all that agree say tom is 0 post

[LukeB]

Ok, I was just saying if you still used that account you'd be on 11k :p

oh haha :laugh:

[joeysteele]

I voted no.

I guess there was a reason they were not going to be included in the overall post count made as to members.

Thinking of the most loved poll for instance loads of posts would be just thank you or well done posts and for Birthdays loads of Happy Birthday posts.

I think the exclusion of posts from chat and games, leaves a more accurate reflected result as to posts made on a wide range of other issues and topics.

(I would however, be just as happy if they were included).

[Josy]

Chat & Games posts wont be counted. Pretty much the same answer as all the other threads asking the same thing.

Not sure what you think the poll will achieve either because the answer is still no.

[LukeB]

Chat & Games posts wont be counted. Pretty much the same answer as all the other threads asking the same thing.

Not sure what you think the poll will achieve either because the answer is still no.

:laugh:

[Black Dagger]

Josy has spoken!

[LukeB]

i wanted it but I understand why josy and mods don't want it to happen, so i respect their decision not to do it

[Headie]

Chat & Games posts wont be counted. Pretty much the same answer as all the other threads asking the same thing.

Not sure what you think the poll will achieve either because the answer is still no.

So much for a discussion :laugh:

[T*]

Chat & Games posts wont be counted. Pretty much the same answer as all the other threads asking the same thing.

Not sure what you think the poll will achieve either because the answer is still no.

I was hoping you'd use some democracy to tell you what the users want..

[T*]

why is there even a suggestions sub forum tbh

[MTVN]

I voted no.

I guess there was a reason they were not going to be included in the overall post count made as to members.

Thinking of the most loved poll for instance loads of posts would be just thank you or well done posts and for Birthdays loads of Happy Birthday posts.

I think the exclusion of posts from chat and games, leaves a more accurate reflected result as to posts made on a wide range of other issues and topics.

(I would however, be just as happy if they were included).

Quite right Joey, a post count is a reflection of the contribution you've made across the forum, include C&G posts and it would manly be a reflection of how much you've 'chatted' or spammed nonsense in there

That said, really though I wouldn't miss post counts at all if they were abolished and think it would be good for the forum

[MTVN]

We have got 997 active members, if you can secure the support of 499 of them then you might have a chance

[T*]

Here's a word to anyone that would like to make a suggestion, don't even bother. There's 100/1 chance of your thing happening.

[Josy]

So much for a discussion :laugh:

No ones stopping you discussing it.

The answer will still be the same and so it's pretty pointless to discuss it over and over IMO.

I was hoping you'd use some democracy to tell you what the users want..

why is there even a suggestions sub forum tbh

I'm sure I already told you this before Tom but just because there is a suggestions forum it doesn't mean you can get every single thing you request, I mean you posted before in a suggestions thread 'BUT WE WANT IT!!!' or something similar...

[Josy]

And your mini tantrum in this thread kinda proves my point above.

There will be times when you can't get what you want.

[Black Dagger]

You can't always get what you want (8)

[Jake.]

Doesn't bother me, although I don't see how the 'spam posts shouldn't count' argument is still valid given how the majority of the forum posts are now taken up by countless gifs

[LukeB]

And your mini tantrum in this thread kinda proves my point above.

There will be times when you can't get what you want.

Ooop

[MB.]

Well, that'll teach Tom not to try anything with the mods again (until he makes the same thread in a week or so's time)

[LukeB]

Well, that'll teach Tom not to try anything with the mods again (until he makes the same thread in a week or so's time)

:laugh:

[LukeB]

I've been here 5 years (3, if you don't count the 2 years I was banned for) and I only have 4,000 odd posts. I contribute a lot to C&G, and theres rarely a day where I don't check in on TiBB.

you are 14, you got to be 13 to sign up?(that what i saw on the rules) and you been here 5 years? did you lie about your age?

[MB.]

you are 14, you got to be 13 to sign up?(that what i saw on the rules) and you been here 5 years? did you lie about your age?

(why do you think he was banned for two years?)

[T*]

you are 14, you got to be 13 to sign up?(that what i saw on the rules) and you been here 5 years? did you lie about your age?

Yes? :laugh: Why do you think I was banned for 2 whole years? :laugh2:

[LukeB]

Yes? :laugh: Why do you think I was banned for 2 whole years? :laugh2:

you must of had a good life being allowed to go on forums and that at age 9, i wasn't allowed till i was either 10/11

[T*]

you must of had a good life being allowed to go on forums and that at age 9, i wasn't allowed till i was either 10/11

I've been a bit tech savvy since I was little!

[LukeB]

I've been a bit tech savvy since I was little!

same but my mum was too protective of me then, just incase i talked to some strangers who could be 100 years old:laugh:

[MB.]

same but my mum was too protective of me then, just incase i talked to some strangers who could be 100 years old:laugh:

Now, now, that's enough Marsh shade for one night

[LukeB]

Now, now, that's enough Marsh shade for one night

:laugh2:

[Calderyon]

When i was ten, there wasn´t such thing as forums. Tbh, there wasn´t even internet.

[Bluerang1]

Other forums have sections that don't count towards total posts. What else is new

[Ammi]

Other forums have sections that don't count towards total posts. What else is new


..yeah, this really..I'm only on three forums but they all have similar sections to chat and games where the posts don't count so I think it's fine as it is...I never get though, why some threads/gifs/pics etc are ok and some aren't ok because they're all 'spam' as such...

[James]

The fact that some people care about what their post-count is means that - if it was made that Chat and Games posts counted - it would just encourage a lot of posts to be made which only have the purpose of increasing a count, and posts like that wouldn't be very interesting for others to read.

So it wouldn't improve the forum.

[Ammi]

The fact that some people care about what their post-count is means that - if it was made that Chat and Games posts counted - it would just encourage a lot of posts to be made which only have the purpose of increasing a count, and posts like that wouldn't be very interesting for others to read.

So it wouldn't improve the forum.

..I'm not sure..was chat and games ever meant to be interesting..:laugh:..I thought it was more just a fun thing and maybe a bit silly as well with lots of 'spam'..it's more I think, how some 'spam' is annoying and some isn't seen as such when potentially, depending on your humour..?..it's all 'annoying' or 'fun'....and it all keeps it ticking over at quieter times...but I agree, I don't see that there needs to be a change in counting it as most forums have similar areas that also don't count....

[Ammi]

..just something that Tom mentioned...people do give their time to run games and it's something that they do for others and not for themselves so it benefits lots of people and the forum as a whole etc...I don't think it would be practical to have all posts counted in games but maybe there could be a 'game award' icon/just a general one which could have it's own 'count' to be added to every time that member hosts a game...so that the host and the winner both get recognised for their contribution....

[Benjamin]

..just something that Tom mentioned...people do give their time to run games and it's something that they do for others and not for themselves so it benefits lots of people and the forum as a whole etc...I don't think it would be practical to have all posts counted in games but maybe there could be a 'game award' icon/just a general one which could have it's own 'count' to be added to every time that member hosts a game...so that the host and the winner both get recognised for their contribution....

I quite like the idea of a host award lol, but I run the game for satisfaction of running a good game (which sometimes gets hampered by outside factors like laptops breaking down lol)

Also with posts counting in games I don't feel it should; most games on TiBB are just for a forum vote and a lot get spammed. The only exception for me would be The Mole and In Cold Blood where the missions actually require massive team work in quite difficult challenges and the games are more of an intelligent strategy game as opposed to a popularity vote; even Elimination and Survivor I would class in the non-post counting bracket as again it's all based on a vote.

[Ammi]

I quite like the idea of a host award lol, but I run the game for satisfaction of running a good game (which sometimes gets hampered by outside factors like laptops breaking down lol)

Also with posts counting in games I don't feel it should; most games on TiBB are just for a forum vote and a lot get spammed. The only exception for me would be The Mole and In Cold Blood where the missions actually require massive team work in quite difficult challenges and the games are more of an intelligent strategy game as opposed to a popularity vote.

..yeah, but I think also people apply for the experience and fun/satisfaction etc but the winner still gets an award but the host gives so much time also..so maybe that should be recognised more..?...I know that members appreciate it but it would still be quite nice, I think...and also, during off season, the forum would pretty much not be nearly so active without games being hosted...

[Kyle]

Surely this is the only forum where having more posts is like a badge of honour?
I'm embarrassed enough that I have 4,000. If chat and games counted it could have been much worse D:

[Ammi]

Surely this is the only forum where having more posts is like a badge of honour?
I'm embarrassed enough that I have 4,000. If chat and games counted it could have been much worse D:

..not really, no..I'm on two other forums and I have seen on both, post counts being used to 'insult' in some way...and that is from the point of...ughhhh, get a life, look at your post count...and the other way of...who are you and your tiny post count..?...similar such things...member post counts are usually in their avatar and visible but it would be also fine if they weren't displayed, I think...but I don't think that would be the issue, though because people would still snipe and insult if they were inclined to do so/because it's the members themselves...if that is the objection or dislike of it being visible...

[Kyle]

..not really, no..I'm on two other forums and I have seen on both, post counts being used to 'insult' in some way...and that is from the point of...ughhhh, get a life, look at your post count...and the other way of...who are you and your tiny post count..?...similar such things...member post counts are usually in their avatar and visible but it would be also fine if they weren't displayed, I think...but I don't think that would be the issue, though because people would still snipe and insult if they were inclined to do so/because it's the members themselves...if that is the objection or dislike of it being visible...

Dnt u lecture me wiv ur 31,000 posts wot r u sum sort of Oricle :fist:

[Ammi]

Dnt u lecture me wiv ur 31,000 posts wot r u sum sort of Oricle :fist:

..in all seriousness, I think on any forum a post count is something you hold for your interactions and time on that forum and something to be proud of because it means that you have wanted to be there/enjoyed your time there..?..whether it's displayed on the forum or just in your profile that really doesn't matter but if it's being used as an insult, then that's really just that person being an idiot and being silly/and they probably would be anyway... because it's actually saying that the forum is a great one to be on..and with newer members who haven't posted as much maybe...?...well, what forums need to be able to thrive and survive are new members so if someone is using their post count as an insult/well they'll just end up with a 'dead' forum if people don't stay..so again, just silly really....

[arista]

I voted 'no' just because I don't really care about it and it's where most of the spam is.


You are Most Wise

[JoshBB]

Yeah it should, but it should count from a certain date only since a lot of it is spammy. Have another section for spam and discount those.

[MTVN]

Yeah it should, but it should count from a certain date only since a lot of it is spammy. Have another section for spam and discount those.

I would give it a month until a "why can't posts in 'new spam section' count" thread pops up, and it would also cause confusion as to which threads go in which section, there's already confusion sometimes between something going in General Chat or Chat and Games

[Kyle]

Maybe you could make like another sub forum for chat & games where people can spam gif's of ladies pointing and making funny faces to their hearts content for extra posts. That way it would also filter out the riffraff for the real chat & games and dare I say make it almost as quality as the sports section.

[Ammi]

..talking about sub-forums, because there are always lots of new quizzes etc and because they're quite popular with lots of members..what about having a quiz sub-forum, I think that they have one on another forum I'm on..?...

[T*]

When i was ten, there wasn´t such thing as forums. Tbh, there wasn´t even internet.

Back in your day, eh?

[Josy]

I think quizzes would come under the 'games' part of the c&g section.

I honestly don't think we need any other sub forums right now tbh, as Matt mentioned people already get confused between c&g and General Chat, we also have General Interests too...

[Ramsay]

Posts counting in Chat and Games is literally near the bottom of the ''i literally don't give a ****'' list in my life

[AnnieK]

Posts counting in Chat and Games is literally near the bottom of the ''i literally don't give a ****'' list in my life

:laugh: x2