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Niamh.
10-10-2014, 03:14 PM
Angry mob hacks off alleged rapist's genitals with meat cleaver after dragging him into butchers
Thoughts?
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A man accused of trying to rape a teenage girl is in a critical condition after locals hacked off his genitals with a meat cleaver in a butcher shop.
After hearing terrified screams, an angry mob took the law into its own hands and dragged Suresh Kumar, 40, into a butchers in the city of Ganganagar, India.
He was found down an alley, pinning the terrified girl against a wall.
Following a community meeting, the vigilantes decided to drag him to a local butcher’s shop where they beat him with sticks for an hour, before chopping off his genitalia with a meat cleaver.
The remains were then dumped in the middle of the road with Kumar's bleeding body nearby.
Local Aamir Dhawan, 30, said: "No one went to help the man because they could see his penis on the ground and knew this was punishment for a sex crime.
"We have had a lot of intolerable offences against women in this country recently, with girls being raped, hung, and molested, and it’s time it stopped.
"This sends out a very strong message to anyone like that - if you do it you will be punished."
Police have called for those responsible to come forward.
A police spokesman said: "People cannot take the law into your own hands.
"As deplorable as these crimes are, law and order has to be maintained, and not lynch justice.
"We ask those men who carried out this attack to hand themselves in before we find them.
The man was eventually taken to hospital where doctors described his condition as critical.
The girl was treated for shock, and given counselling.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/angry-mob-hacks-alleged-rapists-4413312#ixzz3Fktajq5F
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Ninastar
10-10-2014, 03:15 PM
if he did rape someone, he deserves this
if he didnt then its an awful shame
Kazanne
10-10-2014, 03:15 PM
Meat and two veg anyone?:hehe:
Crimson Dynamo
10-10-2014, 03:21 PM
Mob justice is no justice but we are dealing with a very backward society who have little education so its no surprise
Ramsay
10-10-2014, 03:23 PM
:clap1:
Liam-
10-10-2014, 03:28 PM
If he did it, then power to the people, but it does say that he was only 'suspected' so i guess it was a bit premature.
kirklancaster
10-10-2014, 03:48 PM
Meat and two veg anyone?:hehe:
"Kumar's genitals were then dumped in the middle of the road and wild dogs dragged them away then dropped them in front of the houses when chased away by onlookers.
The police are looking for the "Kumars at Number 42... Number 43 ..... and Number 44." :hehe:
"When interviewed by police Suresh Kumar (42) said "No Comment" --- IN AN EXTREMELY HIGH VOICE!
..I can't really see the 'satisfaction' in doing that to someone, it's just a barbaric act and kind of makes them as bad as him and no justice at all imo..
Ninastar
10-10-2014, 04:00 PM
..I can't really see the 'satisfaction' in doing that to someone, it's just a barbaric act and kind of makes them as bad as him and no justice at all imo..
i really can see why you'd think that, but when I think about a poor innocent child/woman getting raped, forced to have sex against their will, I really couldn't care less about what happens to their attacker.
Just think about the discomfort and pain and fear the victim will have gone through. It's not even the painful rape, it's the following weeks and even years after it. It could completely ruin someones life, yet all the rapist cares about is getting sex. It's disgusting and I wish there were stricter punishments.
If he did rape someone, he deserves it. But again, as I said, I can totally understand your thoughts about this.
Black Dagger
10-10-2014, 04:05 PM
..I can't really see the 'satisfaction' in doing that to someone, it's just a barbaric act and kind of makes them as bad as him and no justice at all imo..
Have to agree with you on this one.
arista
10-10-2014, 04:09 PM
Its india
Nothing new
Why not put India:
on the title
i really can see why you'd think that, but when I think about a poor innocent child/woman getting raped, forced to have sex against their will, I really couldn't care less about what happens to their attacker.
Just think about the discomfort and pain and fear the victim will have gone through. It's not even the painful rape, it's the following weeks and even years after it. It could completely ruin someones life, yet all the rapist cares about is getting sex. It's disgusting and I wish there were stricter punishments.
If he did rape someone, he deserves it. But again, as I said, I can totally understand your thoughts about this.
...I do understand Caitlin but if he has a family..mother/father/siblings etc..?..there is their pain involved as well and they haven't done anything, they're completely innocent..if someone hurt someone I loved, would I want their mother to feel the same pain as I would feel...why would I do that to her..?...I just don't believe in an eye for an eye type thing..it isn't up to anyone to decide his guilt and his punishment other than the law..
Kazanne
10-10-2014, 04:54 PM
"Kumar's genitals were then dumped in the middle of the road and wild dogs dragged them away then dropped them in front of the houses when chased away by onlookers.
The police are looking for the "Kumars at Number 42... Number 43 ..... and Number 44." :hehe:
"When interviewed by police Suresh Kumar (42) said "No Comment" --- IN AN EXTREMELY HIGH VOICE!
:joker: I know I shouldn't but what the hell.
Samuel.
10-10-2014, 05:02 PM
Not justifiable whatsoever
GypsyGoth
10-10-2014, 05:25 PM
Good enough for the rapist.
Shaun
10-10-2014, 05:45 PM
Nothing says justice like a brutal maiming before he's even found guilty, after all...
Ninastar
10-10-2014, 05:47 PM
...I do understand Caitlin but if he has a family..mother/father/siblings etc..?..there is their pain involved as well and they haven't done anything, they're completely innocent..if someone hurt someone I loved, would I want their mother to feel the same pain as I would feel...why would I do that to her..?...I just don't believe in an eye for an eye type thing..it isn't up to anyone to decide his guilt and his punishment other than the law..
yeah that's true as well... i just dont normally think of the attackers family. I just feel for the victim.
and yeah, you're right. it is up to the law. he shouldnt have been attacked unless they were sure he was 100% guilty. (though that is just my opinion)
I can't help but feel that there could be a chance this lad didn't do anything or might not have even been going to rape her.
When you have mob justice like this it's so easy to accuse somebody of doing something without due process and with enough clout behind you accidents can happen.
Humans are fallible to lying and making mistakes.
kirklancaster
10-10-2014, 06:22 PM
:joker: I know I shouldn't but what the hell.
Tragedy and misfortune is the basis of all humour --it's a 'coping' device. :blush:
Actually - to be deadly serious Kaz - It's Fking barbaric. He could have been trying to restrain an hysterical shoplifter he'd chased for all the thuggies knew. Even if they were right, he should have been handed over to the cops for due process of law to deal with. Kyle posted a valid post to the same effect.
Love & bullets, Kirk. :blush:
Marsh.
10-10-2014, 06:38 PM
..I can't really see the 'satisfaction' in doing that to someone, it's just a barbaric act and kind of makes them as bad as him and no justice at all imo..
This.
smudgie
10-10-2014, 06:44 PM
Rape..barbaric violation.
Castration..barbaric violation.
The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
Nedusa
11-10-2014, 07:38 AM
What a cock and ball story.... Not sure if this story hasn't been slightly exaggerated.
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Rape..barbaric violation.
Castration..barbaric violation.
The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
This.
kirklancaster
11-10-2014, 08:03 AM
What a cock and ball story.... Not sure if this story hasn't been slightly exaggerated.
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:blush:
Livia
11-10-2014, 10:17 AM
Well, going on the brief information in that article, the crowd were alerted by a woman's screams... they followed the screams and found this man "in an alley pinning the women to a wall" (I'm paraphrasing, despite the quotation marks.) I'm sure the crowd didn't pick this man at random and even though I'm a great advocate of a fair trial, preferably by jury, the disgusting, haunting reports of rape that I've read from India makes a part of me think, thank goodness rape is finally being taken seriously instead of being tolerated because women aren't worth as much as men. I would be interested to see more about this case though.
Niamh.
11-10-2014, 08:13 PM
I can't help but feel that there could be a chance this lad didn't do anything or might not have even been going to rape her.
When you have mob justice like this it's so easy to accuse somebody of doing something without due process and with enough clout behind you accidents can happen.
Humans are fallible to lying and making mistakes.
Didn't they actually catch him doing it though?
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
11-10-2014, 08:15 PM
even if he did do it/was attempting it :umm2: @ yall applauding him being castrated
Livia
11-10-2014, 08:18 PM
even if he did do it/was attempting it :umm2: @ yall applauding him being castrated
Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
GypsyGoth
11-10-2014, 08:20 PM
Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
:worship:
And as you mentioned, the way things were going in that country, a message needed to be sent.
user104658
11-10-2014, 08:21 PM
Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
And if you're considering a career change, I hear there are people who will pay good money to see that sort of thing...
Sick.
No body should have that happen to them, isn't this why laws exist? So people can be held accountable against them and punished accordingly?
Livia
11-10-2014, 08:26 PM
Sick.
No body should have that happen to them, isn't this why laws exist? So people can be held accountable against them and punished accordingly?
The thousands of female rape victims in India who have been ignored and even punished for it are probably asking the same question.
Didn't they actually catch him doing it though?
According to the article he had pinned the girl against a wall.
Now I'm not saying he wouldn't have been going to rape her cos he probably would but unless Tom Cruise and pre-crime had it all worked out before hand then I don't know how they could be 100% sure.
Now if the article could explain a little more about the circumstances of his discovery, was he trying to forcibly tear her clothing, gag her mouth? Or was he trying to get at her belongings? It's a bit vague.
On the subject of mob retribution though which I thought this thread was about I still believe it is open to massive abuse. Don't like someone? Why not accuse them of apostasy and have them hung?
I agree with Livia
Its tough justice but its more justice then the woman would get with the system in India, at least now he will never get a chance to do it to someone else again, sounds like a better end game then him going free which would likely happen
Kazanne
11-10-2014, 09:00 PM
Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
:clap1::clap1::clap1:
Amy Jade
11-10-2014, 09:03 PM
Rape..barbaric violation.
Castration..barbaric violation.
The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
Agreed.
..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
Ithinkiloveyoutoo
11-10-2014, 09:21 PM
If he had hurt a family member not sure I would have felt sorry for him.
Rape..barbaric violation.
Castration..barbaric violation.
The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
Yep
JoshBB
11-10-2014, 09:31 PM
What the hell? He might not even be guilty. Imagine that - being accused of rape and then having your genitals hacked off.. :umm2:
..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
Don't know about that, I'd say a lot of woman would much prefer mob rule then the laws they have obide by over there, I don't see a human being emotionally reacting to something he has witnessed and reacting that way on par with a child rapist tbf i don't know how people can even think that, the circumstances are totally different
Livia
11-10-2014, 09:47 PM
..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
I expect we all remember when that young woman was brutally raped on a bus and received internal injuries from being assaulted with iron bars - injuries so bad that she died of those injuries. The men responsible for that crime expected to walk away and they probably would have, had it not been for Indian people's outrage at the inertia of the police and the fact that they took to the streets in protest which brought the incident to the attention of the world. Poor people in India are not served by the police, they are not considered worthy, and poor women even less worthy than poor men. And if that's changing, it's changing slowly... glacially slowly.
I don't agree with mob rule, but if the law isn't working, if people are not getting justice, then something will always snap. And if I'm going to feel compassion for someone, it's probably not going to be for the man who was dragged off a young women in an alley, but for the countless women who have lived through the brutal degradation of rape and gang rape, and the countless women who have died as a consequence of it without ever having the hope that justice will prevail.
Kizzy
11-10-2014, 10:06 PM
I've seen pics of women raped and swinging from trees.. strange fruit.
If the loss of a couple of plums is enough of a deterrent to stop that happening then :shrug:
thesheriff443
11-10-2014, 10:18 PM
Indian fathers marry off their children as young as five years of age!
they are no better than savages. we live in a sick world!.
Tom4784
11-10-2014, 11:16 PM
The crowd are no better than the rapist.
lostalex
12-10-2014, 03:11 AM
I wonder how many other men in that angry mob are also rapists.
lostalex
12-10-2014, 03:14 AM
Rape..barbaric violation.
Castration..barbaric violation.
The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
The 2 things are not equivalent because the rapist was attacking an innocent victim, but the angry mob was attacking a guilty man.
hurting someone who is innocent is worse than attacking a guilty person in retribution.
Nedusa
13-10-2014, 06:20 PM
:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
Good post... Couldn't agree more
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the truth
13-10-2014, 11:55 PM
disgusting.
the truth
13-10-2014, 11:57 PM
Well, going on the brief information in that article, the crowd were alerted by a woman's screams... they followed the screams and found this man "in an alley pinning the women to a wall" (I'm paraphrasing, despite the quotation marks.) I'm sure the crowd didn't pick this man at random and even though I'm a great advocate of a fair trial, preferably by jury, the disgusting, haunting reports of rape that I've read from India makes a part of me think, thank goodness rape is finally being taken seriously instead of being tolerated because women aren't worth as much as men. I would be interested to see more about this case though.
Im afraid the opposite is now true. men like this get murdered on the streets based of fouundless baseless allegations and no trial and no chance to defend yourself, that's sexism in its worst possible form.
Marsh.
13-10-2014, 11:59 PM
The 2 things are not equivalent because the rapist was attacking an innocent victim, but the angry mob was attacking a guilty man.
hurting someone who is innocent is worse than attacking a guilty person in retribution.
We're all "guilty" of something. It doesn't give each of us the right to decide who's done wrong and dish out punishments to them.
lostalex
14-10-2014, 03:12 AM
We're all "guilty" of something. It doesn't give each of us the right to decide who's done wrong and dish out punishments to them.
I didn't say that mob justice is right. I just said that it's less wrong than raping an innocent victim. It's not equivalent. Many people are saying that the mob is just as bad as the rapist, and that's not true. The rapist is still worse than the mob.
the truth
17-10-2014, 01:13 AM
mob rule is mental , it has to be stopped
Tom4784
17-10-2014, 02:57 AM
I don't understand why people are applauding this, it's essentially punishing a sex crime with a sex crime.
I pity anyone who thinks that this is an acceptable course of action and I hope that one day they can get past their casual bloodlust.
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