do you no Jesus loves you ?

[waterhog]

do you no Jesus loves you ? a lady asked me ? i told her directly !!!!!!! how would you reply ? 19.10.14

on Saturday the 18 October
it was the date but no time
i was most certainly not sober
it was to far from the midnight chime.
along i did stagger
until i met this group that was odd
they wanted to give me a ladder
so that i could meet God.
i kindly refused
as they did surround
with my cheeky smile they looked confused
i dare not mention the "foot prints" in the ground.
"do you no he loves"
into my brain clicked employer
this time no group of "white doves"
i have faith "God" is no "me" destroyer.
i kept nodding
but continually connected in my sole
maybe she thought i was saying keep "jogging"
but very impressed when i showed her my hole.
no one needs to convince
"Jesus" i will always applaud
the fact my body is not decaying mince
is my proof i no "Jesus Christ " is my saviour the "Lord".

( i don't need to say thank you to god as i am working every day for him to show my appreciation. i hope no disrespect is taken by any of my descriptions but again "God" no's what i am saying. just wanted to ask if anyone has any views on people who try to spread the lord ? do you want to see heaven ? you can here -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB93HmWBeoI )

[Ninastar]

of course he does, i'm fabulous

[JoshBB]

very impressed when i showed her my hole

:shocked:

[T*]

RELIGION

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jesus, if he existed died aged around 30 2000 odd years ago

forget it folks

[T*]

know*

[Calderyon]

I do know that.

[T*]

If you're going to make every post you make a poem, at least use SPAG..

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isnt it Jesus loves you for a rainbow?

[arista]

"how would you reply ?"



Slammin' a "God Delusion" Book in her Face


Utter Bliss

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I don't get how so many rich people are atheists. Like you got most of the blessings down here what the **** more do you need to believe in blessings.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Not saying money is everything but there are so many rich people with money, good familes, good friends, generally a good fulfilling lives.

[Crimson Dynamo]

At least Kirklancaster is getting out in the fresh air

every cloud etc,.

[Jessica.]

know*

[T*]

I don't get how so many rich people are atheists. Like you got most of the blessings down here what the **** more do you need to believe in blessings.


Blessings? Well, maybe Kim K who flashed her tits and got famous, but the fact of the matter is a lot of people earned and worked really hard to be where they are today, they didn't just get God saying 'Lol make her famous'...

[Ramsay]

**** jesus

[JoshBB]

Blessings? Well, maybe Kim K who flashed her tits and got famous, but the fact of the matter is a lot of people earned and worked really hard to be where they are today, they didn't just get God saying 'Lol make her famous'...

tbh most rich people didn't earn their money though, a lot of the time it is just inheritance or pure luck.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't get how so many rich people are atheists. Like you got most of the blessings down here what the **** more do you need to believe in blessings.

Are you suggesting we are all puppets in some kind of game played by gods in the clouds?

:joker:

[arista]

http://cdn0.cosmosmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/small.DAWKINS_The%20God%20Delusion.jpg

Slam this in Her Gob

OK Hog

[Cal.]

this poem to go to no. 1 in every continent

[the truth]

yes because Jesus is great

[lostalex]

I've not heard any evidence that Jesus was God. He turned water into wine? I once sold plain paper to a freshman as LSD, and the next day he told me he tripped his ass off. You can sell anything to fools.

[Marsh.]

Atheists love a thread about Jesus. :idc:

[lostalex]

Atheists love a thread about Jesus. :idc: most atheists have also read the bible more thoroughly, and studied religion more thoroughly than most christians. what does that tell you about most christians?

[smudgie]

Live and let live.:shrug:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

most atheists have also read the bible more thoroughly, and studied religion more thoroughly than most christians. what does that tell you about most christians?

This is why I can't stand Atheists. They think they are above everyone and smarter than everyone and yet come out with something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution.
I'm not claiming i'm the most religious but...you know what I don't actually want to talk about religion.

[Marsh.]

most atheists have also read the bible more thoroughly, and studied religion more thoroughly than most christians. what does that tell you about most christians?

It tells me you're deluded as you like to generalise about millions of people you don't know.

But you're not Christian so it automatically makes you intellectually superior, right? Yawn.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is why I can't stand Atheists. They think they are above everyone and smarter than everyone and yet come out with something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution.
I'm not claiming i'm the most religious but...you know what I don't actually want to talk about religion.

What has that to do with the generally factual post by Lostalex?

and as for the "something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution."

words indeed fail me :facepalm:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

What has that to do with the generally factual post by Lostalex?

and as for the "something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution."

words indeed fail me :facepalm:

School me then tell me top 10 things you know from the bible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Atheists love a thread about Jesus. :idc:

Indeed and they will continue to want to talk about absurd beliefs until it is purged from schools and politics.

After that no one will care, just like no one cares if you believe that Doctor Who is factual, which I am sure it isnt :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

School me then tell me top 10 things you know from the bible.

Top 10 what, books, messages, poems, messages, inaccuracies, fallacies, people, historical facts??

[Marsh.]

Indeed and they will continue to want to talk about absurd beliefs until it is purged from schools and politics.

After that no one will care, just like no one cares if you believe that Doctor Who is factual, which I am sure it isnt :shrug:

:clap2: Stay pressed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap2: Stay pressed.

I used to wear sta pressed trousers

and that is a fact!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb7pe9aAh81qam50k.jpg

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Top 10 what, books, messages, poems, messages, inaccuracies, fallacies, people, historical facts??

The things about believing is that that's why those that believe are called believers or are said to have faith it's because things were never meant to conform to what people deem normal or "accurate". Like the Virgin Mary thing, everyday people would say how is this even accurate, you need to have sex to become pregnant simple as that. But the person with a sense of faith or belief will believe the story of Mary. Let it be you can believe in science and lone evolution of the brain if you want but stop attacking people that want to have faith and want to believe that there is something bigger than us vile cretins walking this polluted planet.


But yes without looking it up, name me some events (not jesus, or mary) that happened, an inspirational poem, some of the events revealed in the book of revelations stating the end is nigh.

[Liam-]

most atheists have also read the bible more thoroughly, and studied religion more thoroughly than most christians. what does that tell you about most christians?

That's not strictly true, atheists don't believe in God, so why would they waste their time reading through a book and studying about something they don't believe in?

[Crimson Dynamo]

That's not strictly true, atheists don't believe in God, so why would they waste their time reading through a book and studying about something they don't believe in?

Because many were brought up as believers and then thought, hang on this aint right and then did their own research to realise the truth.

[Niamh.]

Because many were brought up as believers and then thought, hang on this aint right and then did their own research to realise the truth.

Exactly, that's the thing. I'm Irish and I was born into Catholicism, like pretty much everyone I know here. I have every right to question the fact that this stuff was forced on me and I have every right to be annoyed that the vast majority of "state" schools here in Ireland are Catholic.

[Liam-]

Because many were brought up as believers and then thought, hang on this aint right and then did their own research to realise the truth.

That's a fair point.

Me personally, being an atheist, i have no desire whatsoever to look into religion and to see what people who do believe see, I mean, i did well at it in school and had one of the top grades, but even then when it was being force fed to us in every single lesson that it was fact and everything else was wrong, i didn't believe a single word of it, i can't see how anyone who really looks at what the bible and various other teachings say, can believe it.
Imo it's a load of incoherent hearsay, written down to brainwash the masses.

[Kyle]

This is why I can't stand Atheists. They think they are above everyone and smarter than everyone and yet come out with something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution.
I'm not claiming i'm the most religious but...you know what I don't actually want to talk about religion.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

'Monkey evolution'.

You from Alabama?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The things about believing is that that's why those that believe are called believers or are said to have faith it's because things were never meant to conform to what people deem normal or "accurate". Like the Virgin Mary thing, everyday people would say how is this even accurate, you need to have sex to become pregnant simple as that. But the person with a sense of faith or belief will believe the story of Mary. Let it be you can believe in science and lone evolution of the brain if you want but stop attacking people that want to have faith and want to believe that there is something bigger than us vile cretins walking this polluted planet.


But yes without looking it up, name me some events (not jesus, or mary) that happened, an inspirational poem, some of the events revealed in the book of revelations stating the end is nigh.

You do know that the virgin/miraculous birth myth is prevalent in many many religions like Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam. It was quite the rage back in the day

[Kyle]

And let's get one thing clear.

'This is why I hate atheists'

Notice nobody has kicked off about that.

Now imagine if Leather Trumpet had said 'this is why I hate Christians' :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The things about believing is that that's why those that believe are called believers or are said to have faith it's because things were never meant to conform to what people deem normal or "accurate". Like the Virgin Mary thing, everyday people would say how is this even accurate, you need to have sex to become pregnant simple as that. But the person with a sense of faith or belief will believe the story of Mary. Let it be you can believe in science and lone evolution of the brain if you want but stop attacking people that want to have faith and want to believe that there is something bigger than us vile cretins walking this polluted planet.


But yes without looking it up, name me some events (not jesus, or mary) that happened, an inspirational poem, some of the events revealed in the book of revelations stating the end is nigh.

I have to recite a poem from Psalms from memory? :shrug:

I would hope that all believers at least have read Psalm 118 however

and I have read revelation and indeed studied it briefly at Bible study ( which is more than I would imagine 90% of believers and its incomprehensible babble - its as dull as listening to a friend recount some long dream they had).

[T*]

this is basically the meaning of life thread 2.0

[Crimson Dynamo]

And let's get one thing clear.

'This is why I hate atheists'

Notice nobody has kicked off about that.

Now imagine if Leather Trumpet had said 'this is why I hate Christians' :think:

It stems from the standard line "oh why dost thou attack me so for my beliefs"

and that stems from the old idea that we should respect and not question religion

Thankfully this is on its last legs at least in the UK but then have a wee look at Islam.....

[Liam-]

And let's get one thing clear.

'This is why I hate atheists'

Notice nobody has kicked off about that.

Now imagine if Leather Trumpet had said 'this is why I hate Christians' :think:

He probably would have been banned.
Another reason why the majority of religious people are hypocrites, despise people ridiculing their beliefs, but see fit to dismiss others and ridicule them for theirs.

[Kyle]

this is basically the meaning of life thread 2.0

Yep. I left that thread cos I didn't wanna get banned. Oh well. Was nice knowing y'all.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

He probably would have been banned.
Another reason why the majority of religious people are hypocrites, despise people ridiculing their beliefs, but see fit to dismiss others and ridicule them for theirs.

You THINK you are ridiculing their belief, but we understand that if you're but a mere earthling you would simplify things with "logic" from down huurr, anything more is too much for your little earthling brain to get. :devil:

And I totally understand that a lot of Atheists are people that began by reading the bible then looked at the world and read the words and nothing added up or made sense. I get it. Life is ****ty, things are much easier if we take control and make things make sense rather than believing in words that were written by some randoms thousands of years ago based on events around that timer rather than modern times. I get it.

[T*]

And this is the last thing I'll say before this turns into that cluster**** we had before.

I don't really think anyone would have critiqued waterhog's belief's had he not written them down as a definitive statement in the op and thread title. 'don't you know Jesus loves you'.

Believe what you want, honestly it's fine. But if you start bleating your mouth off about how this is this and that is that I don't know how you can't expect a rebuttal. If you really believe what you believe you should be prepared to defend it when you start laying it out at everybody. That's the fundamental difference in my opinion.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

Also, nobody's saying you can't question religion. Question it to your hearts content but ridiculing someone/people who believes differently isn't the same thing.

[Kyle]

Also, nobody's saying you can't question religion. Question it to your hearts content but ridiculing someone/people who believes differently isn't the same thing.

Then that should stop. You believe, I don't believe. Shake hands done.

[Kyle]

:clap1:

I'll also add that I deleted the post that you quoted and not the mods. I deleted it because I got the context of the thread title wrong, it was a woman who made that statement not him although he does confirm it is his belief too later on.

[lostalex]

This is why I can't stand Atheists. They think they are above everyone and smarter than everyone and yet come out with something stupid like the big bang theory is why we're all here or the monkey evolution.
I'm not claiming i'm the most religious but...you know what I don't actually want to talk about religion.

the difference is, most atheists don't beg for money every Sunday!

We never ask for a god damn thing when we tell you our opinions, unlike your church, which tells you you have to pay them, and follow them and support them.

we don't ask for a god damn thing, do we?!

we don't ask for a percentage of your income just to hear our opinions, we don't ask you for payment to be part of our club.

get it right.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

the difference is, most atheists don't beg for money every Sunday!

We never ask for a god damn thing when we tell you our opinions, unlike your church, which tells you you have to pay them, and follow them and support them.

we don't ask for a god damn thing, do we?!

we don't ask for a percentage of your income just to hear our opinions, we don't ask you for payment to be part of our club.

get it right.

:sleep:

Can we please stop?

It's much deeper than just asking for money to hear opinions.


Can this thread be closed please. :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

:sleep:

Can we please stop?

It's much deeper than just asking for money to hear opinions.


Can this thread be closed please. :(

Rather than cut and run why not explain to people why you believe in the things you do?

After all you are logged into a discussion forum.....

[Kyle]

:sleep:

Can we please stop?

It's much deeper than just asking for money to hear opinions.


Can this thread be closed please. :(

Sorry but that's not your call to make. If you don't like what you see log off, punch a wall, come back on and ignore it.

That's what I do.

[Liam-]

You THINK you are ridiculing their belief, but we understand that if you're but a mere earthling you would simplify things with "logic" from down huurr, anything more is too much for your little earthling brain to get. :devil:

And I totally understand that a lot of Atheists are people that began by reading the bible then looked at the world and read the words and nothing added up or made sense. I get it. Life is ****ty, things are much easier if we take control and make things make sense rather than believing in words that were written by some randoms thousands of years ago based on events around that timer rather than modern times. I get it.

Difference being, i don't ridicule people for believing in things that i don't.. but lets look at it this way, if i said you believed in religion because you're a brain washed soldier of the masses, would that offend you? It probably would, so don't carry on as if people who don't believe in religion are stupid and less worthy than people who are religious, it's just as bad as people mocking your beliefs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Also, nobody's saying you can't question religion. Question it to your hearts content but ridiculing someone/people who believes differently isn't the same thing.

How would you define ridicule?

[lostalex]

How would you define ridicule?

the flying dog in your ava is adorable and ridiculous . but i'm not gonna worship it, or give money to it every sunday.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Rather than cut and run why not explain to people why you believe in the things you do?

After all you are logged into a discussion forum.....

Because I don't have the energy. I've got so many things on my mind and so many applications to go through today. I'm burned. :laugh:

But my belief started when I was wee. I was always sick in and out of hospitals and doctors gave me weeks to live. My parents, who weren't believers at the time say I randomly wrote a letter to Jesus to please heal me and I lived and I've had some faith since.

I'm not the judgmental type though like those that that say this is how you should live, doing this is wrong etc....I understand it's much easier not to believe as well than to believe.

[lostalex]

Because I don't have the energy. I've got so many things on my mind and so many applications to go through today. I'm burned. :laugh:

But my belief started when I wee. I was always sick in and out of hospitals and doctors gave me weeks to live. My parents, who weren't believers at the time say I randomly wrote a letter to Jesus to please heal me and I lived and I've had some faith since.

I'm not the judgmental type though like those that that say this is how you should live, doing this is wrong etc....I understand it's much easier not to believe as well than to believe.

you are wrong. it's much easer to believe the religious nonsense, cause then you don't have to fear death, and you don't have to form opinions of your own. you can just accept what you are told, and believe you will live peacefully in happiness in HEAVEN when you die. That is far easier than actually having to face your own moriality, and thinking about loosing your loved ones, and contemplating the idea of oblivion. nothingness. could you handle the possibility that everything in this life is actually meaningless? do you understand the concept of oblivion?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Difference being, i don't ridicule people for believing in things that i don't.. but lets look at it this way, if i said you believed in religion because you're a brain washed soldier of the masses, would that offend you? It probably would, so don't carry on as if people who don't believe in religion are stupid and less worthy than people who are religious, it's just as bad as people mocking your beliefs.
No it doesn't offend.

100% nobody is less worthy if they don't believe.:nono:

Infact, from some Christians point of view you are the ones that God seeks out for the most. There's the saying like if there's a flock of sheep and one runs, does the shepherd not go out of his way to find that one that is lost rather than staying with those that are safe.

[Kyle]

No it doesn't offend.

100% nobody is less worthy if they don't believe.:nono:

Infact, from some Christians point of view you are the ones that God seeks out for the most. There's the saying like if there's a flock of sheep and one runs, does the shepherd not go out of his way to find that one that his lost rather than staying with those that are safe.

So what do you believe will happen to the likes of me and Liam when we die?

Where do we go?

[Crimson Dynamo]

No it doesn't offend.

100% nobody is less worthy if they don't believe.:nono:

Infact, from some Christians point of view you are the ones that God seeks out for the most. There's the saying like if there's a flock of sheep and one runs, does the shepherd not go out of his way to find that one that is lost rather than staying with those that are safe.

No the shepherd pens the sheep and goes off after the other one or uses his quadbike. Or a better shepherd does not loose any sheep in the first place

[Marsh.]

the difference is, most atheists don't beg for money every Sunday!

We never ask for a god damn thing when we tell you our opinions, unlike your church, which tells you you have to pay them, and follow them and support them.

we don't ask for a god damn thing, do we?!

we don't ask for a percentage of your income just to hear our opinions, we don't ask you for payment to be part of our club.

get it right.

The vast majority of Christians don't ask for money.

You also don't pay any money to enter a church or attend mass.

You can place a small donation in a bowl if you choose, but don't if you don't want to.

Making out churches are some place where the priests are raking in the cash is absurd.

No payment required to be a Christian. Atheism isn't a "club" either.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

you are wrong. it's much easer to believe the religious nonsense, cause then you don't have to fear death, and you don't have to form opinions of your own. you can just accept what you are told, and believe you will live peacefully in happiness in HEAVEN when you die. That is far easier than actually having to face your own moriality, and thinking about loosing your loved ones, and contemplating the idea of oblivion. nothingness. could you handle the possibility that everything in this life is actually meaningless? do you understand the concept of oblivion?

Actually for me personally I would much rather like to think that we just end when we die end of story.

I don't think a lot of people go into religion just for the eternal life it's much deeper than that. They are looking for more than what the world has to offer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The vast majority of Christians don't ask for money.

You also don't pay any money to enter a church or attend mass.

You can place a small donation in a bowl if you choose, but don't if you don't want to.

Making out churches are some place where the priests are raking in the cash is absurd.

No payment required to be a Christian. Atheism isn't a "club" either.

Listen when that velvet bag goes round I know people just love to donate and not make a chink, ie in goes the folding and the shame of those who chink. Also the looks of death to those who pass the bag by...

[Marsh.]

How would you define ridicule?

The same way it's written in the dictionary.

[lostalex]

Actually for me personally I would much rather like to think that we just end when we die end of story.

you will not be disappointed then. good for you.

[Marsh.]

Listen when that velvet bag goes round I know people just love to donate and not make a chink, ie in goes the folding and the shame of those who chink. Also the looks of death to those who pass the bag by...

Well we don't have a velvet bag. There's a bowl at the back of the church for people to donate as and when they like.

Each time I pass it's full of loose change and bits that people can lose or buy candles.

To suggest you are "charged" to be a Christian or that churches are raking in cash from parishioners is laughably absurd.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The same way it's written in the dictionary.

yes but in relation to this debate. It is very difficult to not be seen to ridicule someone who is a creationist as we seen to have here :shrug:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

So what do you believe will happen to the likes of me and Liam when we die?

Where do we go?

Not for me to judge. I told you i'm not the judgmental type. The god works in mysterious ways thing is real in the sense even all those pastors and priests that have spent their life reading the bible still don't have everything sussed.

[Marsh.]

yes but in relation to this debate. It is very difficult to not be seen to ridicule someone who is a creationist as we seen to have here :shrug:

Pardon?

Disagreeing with religion or believing something different isn't ridiculing. Lostalex's methods of belittling Christians and insulting them is ridicule.

[lostalex]

The vast majority of Christians don't ask for money.

You also don't pay any money to enter a church or attend mass.

You can place a small donation in a bowl if you choose, but don't if you don't want to.

Making out churches are some place where the priests are raking in the cash is absurd.

No payment required to be a Christian. Atheism isn't a "club" either.

funny, you don't see many homeless priests... actually they seem to dress quite well. and none of them work. how many Christian leaders pay their own way without asking for any donations? How many Churches has GOD built? oh yea, none.

How many ****ING DISEASES HAS GOD CURED?

NONE.

how many tears has God dried?

none.

[Marsh.]

funny, you don't see many homeless priests... actually they seem to dress quite well. and none of them work. how many Christian leaders pay their own way without asking for any donations? How many Churches has GOD built? oh yea, none.

Clue is in the word "donations". Are you forced to make donations? No. Of the donations that are made, is it a lot of money? No, not at all.

Do priests live a life of luxury? No, not really.


How many ****ING DISEASES HAS GOD CURED?

NONE.

Oh dear. An angry atheist.

[T*]

well this is a mess

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pardon?

Disagreeing with religion or believing something different isn't ridiculing. Lostalex's methods of belittling Christians and insulting them is ridicule.

I dont think he is belittling, he is just frustrated (as we all are) with the "god works in mysterious ways" argument and the "stop bashing religion" argument as we never actually get any defense apart from the above.

:shrug:

[Liam-]

Trust Alex to make this another messy thread :laugh:

[Marsh.]

I dont think he is belittling, he is just frustrated (as we all are) with the "god works in mysterious ways" argument and the "stop bashing religion" argument as we never actually get any defense apart from the above.

:shrug:

No. He started the discussion with "atheists study religion far more than Christians. What does that tell you about Christians?" is immediately belittling them before a debate has even started.

Atheists being frustrated that believers can't convince them why they believe is a bit of a ridiculous notion don't you think?

[lostalex]

Clue is in the word "donations". Are you forced to make donations? No. Of the donations that are made, is it a lot of money? No, not at all.

Do priests live a life of luxury? No, not really.



Oh dear. An angry atheist.

you don't think that churches prey upon the vulnerable? you don't think that churches manipulate people into giving them money? listen to yourself bro. LISTEN TO YOURSELF.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Clue is in the word "donations". Are you forced to make donations? No. Of the donations that are made, is it a lot of money? No, not at all.

Do priests live a life of luxury? No, not really.



Oh dear. An angry atheist.

at least angry atheists dont murder thousands like angry gods do


:hehe:

[Kyle]

Not for me to judge. I told you i'm not the judgmental type. The god works in mysterious ways thing is real in the sense even all those pastors and priests that have spent their life reading the bible still don't have everything sussed.

You are judgemental enough to hate atheists though let's be honest. :shrug:

Surely there must be something that explains where us nasty atheists go. What church denomination are you aligned to?

[lostalex]

Trust Alex to make this another messy thread :laugh:

Oops, didn't know we couldn't talk about Sex! :hehe:

XTSrV_0vG-4

[Crimson Dynamo]

No. He started the discussion with "atheists study religion far more than Christians. What does that tell you about Christians?" is immediately belittling them before a debate has even started.

Atheists being frustrated that believers can't convince them why they believe is a bit of a ridiculous notion don't you think?

Not belittling more a mild prodding


You must have been mildly prodded before?

[Marsh.]

you don't think that churches prey upon the vulnerable? you don't think that churches maniple;ate people into giving them money? listen to yourself bro. LISTEN TO YOURSELF.

No. I've gone to a few different churches over many years and apart from 3 occasions of buying a 10 pence candle I've never given money or been manipulated into doing so.

How much time have you spent in these churches?

Are you still operating under the assumption that churches "sell graces" in the street? Or that they charge a subscription to attend mass?

LISTEN TO YOURSELF.

[Marsh.]

Not belittling more a mild prodding


You must have been mildly prodded before?

I don't do mild. It's a full prod or no prod at all. :smug:

[Marsh.]

at least angry atheists dont murder thousands like angry gods do


:hehe:

So you believe in these gods? :fan:

Oh wait, you're referring to HUMANS who use religion as an EXCUSE.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[lostalex]

When christians stop charging a fee, i'll take them more seriously. Every Christian should refuse any kind of donation. I've never heard of an atheist charging money to tell people why they don't believe in god.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you believe in these gods? :fan:

I believe in the fact they exist in literature written by men (never women:shocked:)

[Marsh.]

When christians stop charging a fee, i'll take them more seriously. Every Christian should refuse any kind of donation.

I have good news for you, there is no fee.

Every Christian should refuse any kind of donation. I've never heard of an atheist charging money to tell people why they don't believe in god.

1/10. Your skills in trolling are slipping.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When christians stop charging a fee, i'll take them more seriously. Every Christian should refuse any kind of donation. I've never heard of an atheist charging money to tell people why they don't believe in god.

If you watch God TV in Europe and for some reason I find it fascinating - 95% of their tv time is asking for money

[Marsh.]

If you watch God TV in Europe and for some reason I find it fascinating - 95% of their tv time is asking for money

Yes, because God TV = all religious people.

Just as fraudulent car salesmen = ALL car salesmen.

[lostalex]

If you watch God TV in Europe and for some reason I find it fascinating - 95% of their tv time is asking for money the Relgious programs are the same here in the US. You'd think God would just give them the money so they could spend more time talking about the actual religion, right??

Funny how they claim it's all about love, but they spend soooo much time talking about MONEY!

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Marsh.]

So we're now using frauds and terrorism extremists to represent "religion"?

Ok, I'll leave you to it.

[lostalex]

So we're now using frauds and terrorism extremists to represent "religion"?

Ok, I'll leave you to it.

well, maybe you should get your own house in order then, or God should. Why isn't God sending down lighting bolts on all these blasphemers using his name in vain for profit???

He's supposedly ALMIGHTY right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

So we're now using frauds and terrorism extremists to represent "religion"?

Ok, I'll leave you to it.

:nono: Benny Hinn is a top rated tv preacher


but yes he is a fraud like any priest or vicar

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

You are judgemental enough to hate atheists though let's be honest. :shrug:

Surely there must be something that explains where us nasty atheists go. What church denomination are you aligned to?

The only reason I have a dislike for Atheist is because the majority of them seem to act so self righteous. I understand though that Atheist feel like Christians at self righteous too so suppose it's a mutual hate.

I'm not going to go into who goes where, because it's not my decision to make.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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Still better than Dynamo, or David Blaine or that channel 4 dude.

[Marsh.]

wel, maybe you should get your own house in rider then, or God should. why isn't god sending down lighting bolts on all these blasphemers using his name in vain for profit???

He's supposedly ALMIGHTY right?

Well this is where you expose the fact that you have done no such research into the bible or religion.

I suppose you're going to ask why he allows hurricanes and tsunamis too, right? :wink:

[lostalex]

Still better than Dynamo, or David Blaine or that channel 4 dude.

The difference is they admit that they are ILLUSIONISTS, and they aren't getting tax benefits from the government....

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

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[Kyle]

The only reason I have a dislike for Atheist is because the majority of them seem to act so self righteous. I understand though that Atheist feel like Christians at self righteous too so suppose it's a mutual hate.

I'm not going to go into who goes where, because it's not my decision to make.

I don't hate Christians. I don't give a sh*t what you believe just so long as it stays out of the national curriculum.

[lostalex]

The really sad part is all the people that are oppressed and bullied by religion.

The kids that are beaten and oppressed by religion. Let's talk about that now.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

well, maybe you should get your own house in order then, or God should. Why isn't God sending down lighting bolts on all these blasphemers using his name in vain for profit???

He's supposedly ALMIGHTY right?

This is where the god works in mysterious ways works in. Some Christians feel it should be that simple too but it just isn't.

[Liam-]

I didn't know you were a religious fellow Morsh!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The really sad part is all the people that are oppressed and bullied by religion.

The kids that are beaten and oppressed by religion. Let's talk about that now.

Watch the video I love jesus but hate religion.

[lostalex]

Watch the video I love jesus but hate religion.

I hate religion and love kids. shame on me?

[Kyle]

This is where the god works in mysterious ways works in. Some Christians feel it should be that simple too but it just isn't.

We are starting to go way off the beaten track now. We can debate theodicy on another thread to our hearts content if we want but I think we've definitely lost track of where Waterhog wanted this to go.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I hate religion and love kids. shame on me?

Watch the video. He brings up some good things. Comeon for meee :(

[lostalex]

Watch the video. He brings up some good things. Comeon for meee :(

okayeee yu are nice. watching now.

[T*]

Watch the video. He brings up some good things. Comeon for meee :(

okayeee yu are nice. watching now.

what is this, msn? :laugh:

[Marsh.]

The really sad part is all the people that are oppressed and bullied by religion.

The kids that are beaten and oppressed by religion. Let's talk about that now.

Yes, let's talk about all of the frauds and evil in the world, they represent the majority of people, right? :thumbs:

[lostalex]

based on this video, you should hate religion as much as i do. so why are you defending it?

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[Marsh.]

Clare Danes shoots herself in a movie? Yes, that's relevant.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

based on this video, you should hate religion as much as i do. so why are you defending it?

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I'm defending belief in Jesus and God. Religion is another issue like the arguments the dude brings up in the video.

The church is not full of righteous people true. A lot of people use churches under false pretence true. A lot of people twist the bible to their advantage true. Religion starts wars true. Those are separate things to believing in God and Jesus.

[Kizzy]

Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so.

[lostalex]

I'm defending belief in Jesus and God. Religion is another issue like the arguments the dude brings up in the video.

The church is not full of righteous people true. A lot of people use churches under false pretence true. A lot of people twist the bible to their advantage true. Religion starts wars true. Those are separate things to believing in God and Jesus.

You are missing the point. the Church ENCOURAGES people to treat people badly. Don't you see that?

[lostalex]

Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so.

Sky fits heaven so fly it. That's what the Prophets said to me. Child fits mother so hold your baby tight.

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[Marsh.]

You are missing the point. the Church ENCOURAGES people to treat people badly. Don't you see that?

:pat: Yes, we see that. Here, have a sweetie...

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Good boy.

[lostalex]

:pat: Yes, we see that. Here, have a sweetie...

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Good boy.

*puurrrrs*

[lostalex]

Clare Danes shoots herself in a movie? Yes, that's relevant.

not claire danes, Juliet.

[Marsh.]

She acts the same in everything, easy mistake to make. :idc:

[Udanax]

When Jesus say yes~

[Kizzy]

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Wow! That is excellent I love it, it's a lot like I see religion honestly.

[lostalex]

It's lots of people saying that they don't really believe in religions but they they are religious, it makes no sense./

It's religious people wanting to defend religion without having to defend all of the ****ED UP **** that religious people do.

It's like how the Gap makes good T-shirts, but they also make a lot of other ****ty overpriced clothes, but at least they make a few good t-shirts so don't criticize them/

[Marsh.]

What happened to all of your "thorough studying"? :joker:

[lostalex]

What happened to all of your "thorough studying"? :joker:

Who are you talking to?

If you are talking to me, then say my ****ing Name.

My name is Alex.

[Marsh.]

You obviously.

[lostalex]

You obviously.

who?

[Kizzy]

It's lots of people saying that they don't really believe in religions but they they are religious, it makes no sense./

It's religious people wanting to defend religion without having to defend all of the ****ED UP **** that religious people do.

It's like how the Gap makes good T-shirts, but they also make a lot of other ****ty overpriced clothes, but at least they make a few good t-shirts so don't criticize them/

Not believing in an organised religion is the difference, that analogy is a good one It's like having a GAP t shirt... but without the GAP logo on it :laugh:

[Marsh.]

who?

0/10

[lostalex]

0/10

I really think you need someone to put something in that 0. you should buy me dinner first though.

[Marsh.]

Who are you talking to?

[Udanax]

AlexXMarsh 4eva <3

[Kyle]

AlexXMarsh 4eva <3

Kizzy is not gonna like that. I hope you have a safe house to spend the next few weeks.

[Marsh.]

Kizzy and I share everything.

[lostalex]

she can have him

[InOne]

Jesus loved the Jews, the rest he was probably quite indifferent about. He grew up in a time of Roman oppression and was looking out for his own people. Paul is the founder of Christianity as we know it.

[lostalex]

Jesus loved the Jews, the rest he was probably quite indifferent about. He grew up in a time of Roman oppression and was looking out for his own people. Paul is the founder of Christianity as we know it.

Paul is a sexy name.

[Bluerang1]

most atheists have also read the bible more thoroughly, and studied religion more thoroughly than most christians. what does that tell you about most christians?

This isn't a fact so stop.

[Marsh.]

This isn't a fact so stop.

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[Redway]

It's lots of people saying that they don't really believe in religions but they they are religious, it makes no sense./

It's religious people wanting to defend religion without having to defend all of the ****ED UP **** that religious people do.

It's like how the Gap makes good T-shirts, but they also make a lot of other ****ty overpriced clothes, but at least they make a few good t-shirts so don't criticize them/

... it's posts like this that give all us atheists a bad name, though. Fair enough if you're not into religion but there's no need for a condescending ironic "holier than though" attitude just because you don't believe in God.

I'm as much as an atheist as you presumably are but you should have respect for people deserving of it, regardless of their beliefs.

[Bluerang1]

... it's posts like this that give all us atheists a bad name, though. Fair enough if you're not into religion but there's no need for a condescending ironic "holier than though" attitude just because you don't believe in God.

I'm as much as an atheist as you presumably are but you should have respect for people deserving of it, regardless of their beliefs.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

... it's posts like this that give all us atheists a bad name, though. Fair enough if you're not into religion but there's no need for a condescending ironic "holier than though" attitude just because you don't believe in God.

I'm as much as an atheist as you presumably are but you should have respect for people deserving of it, regardless of their beliefs.

I wonder which god you mean or do you yourself believe in every god going?

alex post refers to religion per se and not any specific person under its spell

[Kyle]

... it's posts like this that give all us atheists a bad name, though. Fair enough if you're not into religion but there's no need for a condescending ironic "holier than though" attitude just because you don't believe in God.

I'm as much as an atheist as you presumably are but you should have respect for people deserving of it, regardless of their beliefs.

Why would it give us a bad name? I've seen plenty of arguments that religious conmen/terrorists/door to door preachers aren't representative of religious people in general so why should an over-the-top aggressive atheist all of a sudden paint us all in a bad light? :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And of course allof us here are indeed atheist to 99.9% of gods

[Redway]

I wonder which god you mean or do you yourself believe in every god going?

alex post refers to religion per se and not any specific person under its spell
Obviously without splitting hairs I mean all gods. Stop being pedantic.

Why would it give us a bad name? I've seen plenty of arguments that religious conmen/terrorists/door to door preachers aren't representative of religious people in general so why should an over-the-top aggressive atheist all of a sudden paint us all in a bad light? :shrug:

Hence I said 'comments like this'... I'm obviously not on about just Alex, just saying that sort of OTT aggressive atheist attitude doesn't exactly show us in a good light.

[Kyle]

Hence I said 'comments like this'... I'm obviously not on about just Alex, just saying that sort of OTT aggressive atheist attitude doesn't exactly show us in a good light.

Sorry Redway but I'm not buying it. A few unsavoury people are not supposed to reflect badly on the rest as you will see posted in defence of religious nut jobs/conmen here.

So by that regard a few unsavoury people arguing in an aggressive, belittling manner should not reflect on the vast majority of atheists that just get on with things and don't get embroiled with arguing theology.

It's starting to be feel like this is a repeat of the situation I showed earlier on this thread where a poster stated that they 'hate atheists' and not one single person even bothered to take umbrage with it. The comment would have been deleted and the user banned if the word atheist had been replaced with Christian/Muslim etc.

[Marsh.]

And of course allof us here are indeed atheist to 99.9% of gods

An atheist is no belief at all, so no.

[Crimson Dynamo]

An atheist is no belief at all, so no.

I would imagine Morsh you do not believe in every god that has been or is but your own god that you were brought up to believe?

[Marsh.]

I would imagine Morsh you do not believe in every god that has been or is but your own god that you were brought up to believe?

I wasn't brought up to believe in any God.

An atheist is someone who has no belief.