Taxi firm in Rochdale offers white drivers on demand

[arista]

They call him for a Local Driver
thats code for a honky etc.


[Taxi firm in Rochdale offers white drivers on demand after two of
Pakistani origin were jailed for sex-grooming of girls in town
Minicab firm Car 2000 says customers are asking for white or 'local' drivers
Firm bought out Eagle Taxis which was at the centre of grooming scandal
Two drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for part in sex trafficking & rape
Labour MP Simon Danczuk has branded development 'extremely worrying' ]



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2802543/taxi-firm-rochdale-offers-white-drivers-demand-two-pakistani-origin-jailed-sex-grooming-girls-town.html#ixzz3GrnwRHu7


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Sign Of The Times

[Northern Monkey]

That's been happening years.I've heard loads of people ask for a white driver when ordering a taxi on the phone.Nothing new really.

[lostalex]

aslong as they also are accommodating if they request a black driver, i don't see a problem.

[Nedusa]

What *******ing difference does it make what race the Taxi driver is as long as they are safe drivers.

This , I'm afraid is pure racism and should not be pandered to. Anyone making requests of this type should be blacklisted by ALL taxi firms.




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[arista]

aslong as they also are accommodating if they request a black driver, i don't see a problem.



Yes the owner confirmed
some call for a Asian Driver.



Ref : radio 5

[lostalex]

Which race is the business owner? no one says if he is black or white himself?? are we meant to assume he is is white?


I would never request a certain race, it woun't even occur to me to request as certain race.

Can i request a hot gay boy?

a hot black boy would be okay with me :)

[Livia]

If someone wants an Asian driver I don't have a problem with them asking and one being provided. I don't see that anyone would have a problem with it. The problem here is they're asking for a white driver so they've GOT to be racist, right?

Would it be sexist for me to request a female driver? No... what's the difference?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

:bawling::bawling::bawling::bawling:

It's wrong on both parts. Unfortunately Pakistanies and the like can't complain because how many times when looking for somewhere to live they flat out told me with pride that the landlord prefers pakistani or indian tenants.

I've never seen any other race though ask specifically for a certain race only though I could be wrong.

[arista]

Which race is the business owner? no one says if he is black or white himself?? are we meant to assume he is is white?


I would never request a certain race, it woun't even occur to me to request as certain race.

Can i request a hot gay boy?

a hot black boy would be okay with me :)



He is a White Local

[arista]

If someone wants an Asian driver I don't have a problem with them asking and one being provided. I don't see that anyone would have a problem with it. The problem here is they're asking for a white driver so they've GOT to be racist, right?

Would it be sexist for me to request a female driver? No... what's the difference?


Yes


but they use the term "local"
that means honky

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Yes


but they use the term "local"
that means honky

White people have a larger history of being racist all over the world that's why it's easier to pin the word racist on them when things like this happen.

[arista]

White people have a larger history of being racist all over the world that's why it's easier to pin the word racist on them when things like this happen.


Yes we need Ch4HDNews
to give us the Law and the Taxi Firm Boss answer

[Kazanne]

If someone wants an Asian driver I don't have a problem with them asking and one being provided. I don't see that anyone would have a problem with it. The problem here is they're asking for a white driver so they've GOT to be racist, right?

Would it be sexist for me to request a female driver? No... what's the difference?

Agreed Livia we pay the fare so surely we can ask for a driver of our choice.

[Liam-]

I don't really see why it matters what religion or race the driver is as long as they get you to your destination safely :shrug:

[arista]

I don't really see why it matters what religion or race the driver is as long as they get you to your destination safely :shrug:


Yes but this was the Firm that had the Asian Drivers
that raped children, (The Rochdale Case)
there is a New Owner now
he understands why they may want local drivers only.

[Livia]

Yes


but they use the term "local"
that means honky

I'm not sure 'honky' is a term that is acceptable to describe white people, arista.

[MTVN]

Dangerous path to go down when it's suddenly considered a customer right to select the race of their driver. Does it then become their 'right' to refuse to be served by a black man in a shop?

I get that racial tensions are high in the area in light of recent events but this isn't a solution

[arista]

I'm not sure 'honky' is a term that is acceptable to describe white people, arista.


Yes I just find it Funny.



It appears it is Breaking Laws
so I expect it to be on this weeks Question Time

[JoshBB]

ugh racism is actually growing :( society is going backwards

[Livia]

ugh racism is actually growing :( society is going backwards

Says the person who said that Jews are all rich and run all the banks.

[bots]

Dangerous path to go down when it's suddenly considered a customer right to select the race of their driver. Does it then become their 'right' to refuse to be served by a black man in a shop?

I get that racial tensions are high in the area in light of recent events but this isn't a solution

Its already common practice for women taxi drivers to be requested rather than men for certain passengers, that could/should be considered discrimination. The definitions all get clouded when multiple factors are involved

[Crimson Dynamo]

If I was a woman in such a place i would be asking for a white English driver too.

dead straight

[Crimson Dynamo]

Says the person who said that Jews are all rich and run all the banks.

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://markbraggins.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Screen-Shot-2012-09-09-at-07.48.33-300x214.png


LT's Cabs

Local drivers for Local People


No Irish

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

If I was a woman in such a place i would be asking for a white English driver too.

dead straight

Ugh those white women! Such priviledge! JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

ugh racism is actually growing :( society is going backwards

Unfortunately true.

[kirklancaster]

Agreed Livia we pay the fare so surely we can ask for a driver of our choice.

I agree, and I don't believe that in this instance the request for a 'white driver' was anything to do with preference of skin colour or race per se, but more a case of worried passengers trying to reduce risk - given the case of the 2 jailed Pakistani taxi drivers and the long history of 'grooming' by Asian gangs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unfortunately true.

why is that true?

[GiRTh]

Does anyone have any stats to support a passenger is in more danger with an Asian driver?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does anyone have any stats to support a passenger is in more danger with an Asian driver?

http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/akhtara-spider-at-the-centre-of-the-taxi-trade-web/

makes interesting reading


but stats are irrelevant, a woman wants to be safe, they live there, they make the choice end of.

[GiRTh]

http://rotherhampolitics.wordpress.com/2014/08/29/akhtara-spider-at-the-centre-of-the-taxi-trade-web/

makes interesting reading


but stats are irrelevant, a woman wants to be safe, they live there, they make the choice end of.So no stats just alot of hear say? OK.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So no stats just alot of hear say? OK.

Are you saying what occurred in Rotherham is nothing but hearsay?

Your own desperation to cry racism at every turn blinds you from the fact that lone women do not wish to risk a taxi ride in a car even if the risk is low?

Did you read the article and the part that cab firms played in the whole disgusting episode?

"On 10 September 2014, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, announced that an independent investigation would be held into whether Rotherham Council covered up information about the abuse. The investigation would be led by Louise Casey, Director-General of the government's Troubled Families programme, and would examine the council's governance, services for children and young people, and taxi and private hire licensing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal


I know what I would be telling my daughter

[Crimson Dynamo]

This week, Emma told me that she and her family believe at least 90 other child sex attackers in Rotherham escaped justice.

Two of the handful convicted are already back in town: Mohsin Khan, 26, was given a four-year sentence for grooming a 13-year-old girl for sex; and Umar Razaq, 27, was imprisoned for less than a year for having sex with a 12-year-old girl, because he had spent time on remand.

Emma says today: ‘Tarik was never arrested. Three of his brothers, who were doing the same thing to girls, were not either. Most of the men who sexually exploited me are running taxi firms, takeaways, or car washes in town.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738170/The-abuse-STILL-going-s-worse-SUE-REID-broke-story-sex-gangs-preying-young-white-girls-This-week-one-victim-took-round-Rotherham-pointed-attackers-swaggering-street.html#ixzz3Gto31xu8

[GiRTh]

Are you saying what occurred in Rotherham is nothing but hearsay?

Your own desperation to cry racism at every turn blinds you from the fact that lone women do not wish to risk a taxi ride in a car even if the risk is low?

Did you read the article and the part that cab firms played in the whole disgusting episode?

"On 10 September 2014, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Eric Pickles, announced that an independent investigation would be held into whether Rotherham Council covered up information about the abuse. The investigation would be led by Louise Casey, Director-General of the government's Troubled Families programme, and would examine the council's governance, services for children and young people, and taxi and private hire licensing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal


I know what I would be telling my daughter
Thats Rotherham not Rochdale. Do you have anything on Rochdale?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Thats Rotherham not Rochdale. Do you have anything on Rochdale?

after two taxi drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for their part in the sex trafficking and rape of young white girls in the town.

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As I say, any father would welcome this decision and its not like Rotherham is far away

[GiRTh]

after two taxi drivers of Pakistani origin were jailed for their part in the sex trafficking and rape of young white girls in the town.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2802543/taxi-firm-rochdale-offers-white-drivers-demand-two-pakistani-origin-jailed-sex-grooming-girls-town.html#ixzz3GtqGo5Is
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As I say, any father would welcome this decision and its not like Rotherham is far awayThat article mentions two drivers. TWO!!!!! Two drivers in the whole of Rochdale. Thats it? Apparently there are similar gangs in Oxford and Derby but I've never heard of them requested 'white/local' drivers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That article mentions two drivers. TWO!!!!! Two drivers in the whole of Rochdale. Thats it? Apparently there are similar gangs in Oxford and Derby but I've never heard of them requested 'white/local' drivers.

So how many rapes would you like before parents get worried 10, 50 100?

:facepalm:


"The Rochdale sex trafficking gang was a group of men who preyed on under-age teenage girls in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England. They were convicted of sex trafficking on 8 May 2012; other offences included rape, trafficking girls for sex and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child. Forty-seven girls were identified as victims of child sexual exploitation during the police investigation. The men were all British Pakistanis (except for one from Afghanistan) and from Muslim backgrounds, and the girls were White; this has led to national discussion of whether the crimes were racially motivated, or, conversely, whether the early failure to investigate them was linked to the authorities' fear of being accused of racism. The men were aged between 24 and 59 and knew each other in various ways. Two worked for the same taxi firm and another two worked at a takeaway restaurant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang

[GiRTh]

So how many rapes would you like before parents get worried 10, 50 100?

:facepalm:


"The Rochdale sex trafficking gang was a group of men who preyed on under-age teenage girls in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England. They were convicted of sex trafficking on 8 May 2012; other offences included rape, trafficking girls for sex and conspiracy to engage in sexual activity with a child. Forty-seven girls were identified as victims of child sexual exploitation during the police investigation. The men were all British Pakistanis (except for one from Afghanistan) and from Muslim backgrounds, and the girls were White; this has led to national discussion of whether the crimes were racially motivated, or, conversely, whether the early failure to investigate them was linked to the authorities' fear of being accused of racism. The men were aged between 24 and 59 and knew each other in various ways. Two worked for the same taxi firm and another two worked at a takeaway restaurant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gangAs I said there are apparently similar gangs all over the country but I;ve only heard of this in Rochdale.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As I said there are apparently similar gangs all over the country.

Well good for Rochdale cab firm for taking a stand

[GiRTh]

Well good for Rochdale cab firm for taking a standYes. Good for them to be the first to oblige with only white drivers. Its a nice precedent to set.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes. Good for them to be the first to oblige with only white drivers. Its a nice precedent to set.

safety comes before bleeding hearts

[GiRTh]

There is apparently a sex trafficking gang in Derby which I live less than 10 miles from where I live and I've never heard of this precedent.

[user104658]

Not overly concerned about being raped... but I would note that when I lived in a town in the north of England, I did much prefer getting a "local" driver, simply because the (only) taxi company in the town - when it sent a "less local" driver - they had no idea where they were going. And we're not talking obscure addresses here - one didn't know how to get to the local swimming pool. So I was sat in this taxi, directing the driver around town. And he barely spoke English.

So... yeah. I guess that's about my criteria for taxi drivers.

- Knows the town
- Speaks English
- Can drive.

Happy enough with that. Not really going to start racial profiling for potentially being raped. Apparently, white British men also have penises and sometimes even use them to have non-consensual sex. Wacky, I know, but there it is.

[Dollface]

If someone wants an Asian driver I don't have a problem with them asking and one being provided. I don't see that anyone would have a problem with it. The problem here is they're asking for a white driver so they've GOT to be racist, right?

Would it be sexist for me to request a female driver? No... what's the difference?

:clap2:

[Kyle]

When I worked in the main park in the centre of town (Rotherham) we were instructed to watch out for Asian taxi drivers looking to pick up girls at the comp that was bang opposite the park.

This was before the sh*t hit the fan with all the revelations but people knew what was going on. I can't speak for the rest of the country but If I was a vulnerable young girl/woman in Rotherham I would probably not take a taxi alone.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

safety comes before bleeding hearts

But don't white people rape too?

I'm sorry i'm not being serious.
Edit: Actually i'm not sorry. If the ring group was white nobody would paint the whole white race as sex ring attackers. But a group of Pakistanis did now all Pakistanis are dangerous towards white women.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

why is that true?

More people speaking out about too many cultures in UK, UK not being the same due to other cultures taking over, and just generally feeling it when you go to places that are predominantly white like I did when I went up North a few weeks ago.

[Kizzy]

Living so near Bradford can I honestly say I've never been harassed? ...No.
Do I know if it's endemic? No.

There has for years been a cover up of abuse relating to children in care, do I know it's not race specific? Yes.