Ed Milibands Feminist T-Shirt : women paid 62p a hour

[arista]

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[62p An Hour: What women sleeping 16 to a room get paid to make
Ed and Harriet's £45 'This Is What A Feminist Looks Like' T-shirts

Feminist T-shirts worn by politicians are made in 'sweatshop' conditions
Migrant women in Mauritius are making the £45 tops for 62p an hour
They say: 'We don't feel like feminists. We don't feel equal. We feel trapped'
Machinists sleep 16 to a room and earn less than average wage on island
T-shirt is sold in Whistles in aid of activism group The Fawcett Society
Deputy chief executive of the charity Dr Neitzert said they had originally
been assured the garments would be produced ethically in the UK
When they received samples they noted they had been made in Mauritius
She added that if evidence emerges Whistles will have to withdraw range
Harriet Harman wore shirt on front bench of the Commons during PMQs]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2817191/62p-HOUR-s-women-sleeping-16-room-paid-make-Ed-Harriet-s-45-Feminist-Looks-Like-T-shirts.html#ixzz3HtuH6Ntw



Well Done the PM for not wearing these Criminal T-Shirts

[Vicky.]

Erm..I find it hard to believe that these politicians knew about the conditions the women are under tbh. Something I wear regularly could easily turn out to be made like that :shrug:

[Jake.]

'It's hard out here for a prick' (8)

[arista]

Erm..I find it hard to believe that these politicians knew about the conditions the women are under tbh. Something I wear regularly could easily turn out to be made like that :shrug:


Sure but the whole point of this t-shirt
is its for Womans Rights.


Now it looks Evil that these MP's wear them.


Harman - the woman MP who had it on
at PM's Question Time
is a Outright Fool.



Sign Of The Times

[joeysteele]

I think the message is what is important and if through wearing them this other issue has been brought to light too then all the better.

The only reason David Cameron wouldn't wear one is likely because he doesn't believe in the cause.
He is however always happy to be seen supporting anything as to The Sun,that is far more worrying for me than Miliband, Harman and Clegg sporting T shirts in this cause.

[arista]

I think the message is what is important and if through wearing them this other issue has been brought to light too then all the better.

The only reason David Cameron wouldn't wear one is likely because he doesn't believe in the cause.
He is however always happy to be seen supporting anything as to The Sun,that is far more worrying for me than Miliband, Harman and Clegg sporting T shirts in this cause.

You can not guess that.

He is the PM
not some stupid Labour Pillock

[joeysteele]

You can not guess that.

He is the PM
not some stupid Labour Pillock

I think most politicians could get a really good education as to how to act being a pillock just from watching and listening to David Cameron.
He is a superb master at being one of,if not 'the' best of being one.

[Kyle]

I'm currently undergoing the design process for my new collection of t-shirts.

This design here with the slogan

http://www.teesnthings.com/productimages/animal/wildlife-t-shirts/snake-t-shirts/boa-tee-shirt.jpg

This is what a politician looks like

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/01/1414876274652_wps_19_Deputy_leader_of_the_Labo.jpg
You Stupid Cow

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/01/1414876347407_wps_20_Picture_Craig_Hibbert_01_.jpg
[The workers paid just 62p an hour:
Machinists at the CMT factory in Mauritius
with one of the 'feminist' shirts it would
take nearly two weeks' of their wages to buy]

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[JoshBB]

It's not about how they're made, Ed & Nick obviously didn't know that. It's the message the wording on it says, and you know it. Stop digging for reasons to blame them.

[arista]

It's not about how they're made, Ed & Nick obviously didn't know that. It's the message the wording on it says, and you know it. Stop digging for reasons to blame them.



No I will
as they kept saying the PM should have one on.
They are to blame

They are MP's not sandwich boards

[Northern Monkey]

It is pretty embarrassing tbh wether the message is good or not.Even if the message was nothing to do with femenism and it was another subject it would be embarrassing but the fact that it is about femenism gives it an unfortunate irony.

[joeysteele]

No I will
as they kept saying the PM should have one on.
They are to blame

They are MP's not sandwich boards

Perhaps it is time they were more like sandwich boards and stood up for causes like the general public do and advertise that fact as on these T shirts.

Get down with the real people of the UK and not hide away in their ivory towers, dictating things as to peopels lives that they have absolutely no comprehension of.

Just maybe. 'sandwich board' MPs would turn out to be better MPs for the whole of the UK and not just privileged sections of the UK.

Cameron likely wouldn't wear one because he doesn't believe in the cause.Give him a free loads of courses dinner and he would then likely wear anything, clearly there was nothing for him in this one.
Then again, as the Sun said after his conference speech, the Conservatives had adopted all the Sun's policies, so the Sun likely dictates what he wears or advertises too.

[Tom4784]

I couldn't tell you if most of my clothes were made in sweatshops or not so it's pretty unfair of The Mail to use it as an excuse to smear the message that Milliband and the other politicians were putting across.

[user104658]

I think less of him for trying to score points with mindless, directionless pop-feminism (a massive distraction from the truth for anyone seeking true universal equality). That's the problem here. Not how they were made. The fact that people will adorn themselves with any old "activist crap" because it's trendy and not because they have given any meaningful thought to the message.

Modern feminism is sexist, bigoted and destructive. Any politician who truly supports it immediately has my approval withdrawn.

[Kizzy]

I think the message is what is important and if through wearing them this other issue has been brought to light too then all the better.

The only reason David Cameron wouldn't wear one is likely because he doesn't believe in the cause.
He is however always happy to be seen supporting anything as to The Sun,that is far more worrying for me than Miliband, Harman and Clegg sporting T shirts in this cause.

True, the story has been spun into tory gold though hasn't it? :/

[arista]

I couldn't tell you if most of my clothes were made in sweatshops or not so it's pretty unfair of The Mail to use it as an excuse to smear the message that Milliband and the other politicians were putting across.



If they never got it
Then the Telegraph would do it.

Its No Smear
Dezzy

[bots]

Its not like its a small seedy back street factory where people are being forced to work. It looks like a very professional environment. So quite honestly, the amount people earn making the tee shirts is completely irrelevant. World markets dictate prices and earnings in these circumstances. People are trying to make a sensational story where it is just the norm across the globe. Is it better to having a thriving factory employing lots of people at 69 pence an hour, or for them to be priced out of business in the world market with wages of £5 an hour. I find it very amusing that people jump on their high horses at a sensational headline, when there is much more to the underlying issue.

[arista]

Its not like its a small seedy back street factory where people are being forced to work. It looks like a very professional environment. So quite honestly, the amount people earn making the tee shirts is completely irrelevant. World markets dictate prices and earnings in these circumstances. People are trying to make a sensational story where it is just the norm across the globe. Is it better to having a thriving factory employing lots of people at 69 pence an hour, or for them to be priced out of business in the world market with wages of £5 an hour. I find it very amusing that people jump on their high horses at a sensational headline, when there is much more to the underlying issue.


You what!

its sold for £40
and the point of T-Shirt is to Protect Women
not pay them 62p a hour.

[JoshBB]

You what!

its sold for £40
and the point of T-Shirt is to Protect Women
not pay them 62p a hour.

Let's be honest here, the only reason you're "angry" is because it's Ed Miliband. You normally don't give a flying crap about feminism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Milliband is a total joke and will never win power

he is what is wrong with politicians

[Kizzy]

Milliband is a total joke and will never win power

he is what is wrong with politicians

How's that then, what irks you so much about him?

[MTVN]

It is a dumb t shirt wherever it was made tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

How's that then, what irks you so much about him?

Its all summed up with him going passed that Romanian gypsy begging and then thinking about his image and going back and giving her 2p whilst not even looking at her.

[Kizzy]

It is a dumb t shirt wherever it was made tbh

I agree, you shouldn't need a £40 t shirt to advertise you're a feminist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

what even is a feminist?

[Kizzy]

Its all summed up with him going passed that Romanian gypsy begging and then thinking about his image and going back and giving her 2p whilst not even looking at her.

Maybe that's all the change he had, and maybe he felt embarrassed for her with all the media vultures circling?
Politics is far to presidential in it's approach for me atm... I wish we could move away from spin and photo ops to actually focusing on policies.

[joeysteele]

Maybe that's all the change he had, and maybe he felt embarrassed for her with all the media vultures circling?
Politics is far to presidential in it's approach for me atm... [B]I wish we could move away from spin and photo ops to actually focusing on policies.

[/B

I second that one Kizzy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe that's all the change he had, and maybe he felt embarrassed for her with all the media vultures circling?
Politics is far to presidential in it's approach for me atm... I wish we could move away from spin and photo ops to actually focusing on policies.

No he just thought about himself. If he was principled he would have given the beggar nothing as that is what she deserved.

[Kizzy]

No he just thought about himself. If he was principled he would have given the beggar nothing as that is what she deserved.

Then he would've been branded a heartless jerk, he was damned either way wasn't he?

[JoshBB]

to actually focusing on policies.

That's basically what I do most of the time, and it annoys me when people resort to petty insults and trying to accuse other parties of everything.

[JoshBB]

what even is a feminist?

Someone who believes women should be treated equally with men.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Someone who believes women should be treated equally with men.

:laugh2:

[arista]

what even is a feminist?



A Outright Trouble Maker

[Marsh.]

what even is a feminist?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=66938

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/member.php?u=66938

:joker:


aint that the truth

[user104658]

Someone who believes women should be treated equally with men.
That's not really accurate to be fair. I fully believe this and that would then make me a feminist... And I am absolutely not a feminist. I loathe feminist publicity stunts and rhetoric.

3rd wave feminism is about positive discrimination, which is a fancy way of saying, it's discriminatory against men at best and, at worst, it promotes the outright blaming and shaming of all males for all things. The entire modern movement is a quiet, sinister political agenda designed and propagated by a social and political elite - comprised of men AND women - who are truly oppressing every single one of us no matter what we happen to have between our legs.

It benefits them to use misdirection, to create infighting between genders, races, religions, so that we're all too distracted to cast our eyes skywards and see the real problem. I for one wish everyone would stop posting gender equality memes about which set of slaves gets better scraps, and wake the **** up.

[arista]

Let's be honest here, the only reason you're "angry" is because it's Ed Miliband. You normally don't give a flying crap about feminism.


There are not many left

[user104658]

There are not many left
Many what? Feminists? There are too many! If you're talking about flying crap, though, I'd have to agree.

[Kizzy]

The promotion of gender equality is still not level culturally in the UK at present, maybe this was to aid in raising awareness for them?...There LT that's as PC as I could get it for you :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The promotion of gender equality is still not level culturally in the UK at present, maybe this was to aid in raising awareness for them?...There LT that's as PC as I could get it for you :laugh:


And what do we call it when attractive women use their looks to get on and be more equal than men and ugly women?

[Kizzy]

And what do we call it when attractive women use their looks to get on and be more equal than men and ugly women?

It's just being mercenary, using sexual manipulation to advance your position has nothing to do with feminism.

[Kazanne]

Kizzy , Kyle and Joey , I love you all dearly but c'mon , Milliband is a dick , Labour will never do any good with him at the helm whatever T shirt he wears,:dog:

[joeysteele]

Kizzy , Kyle and Joey , I love you all dearly but c'mon , Milliband is a dick , Labour will never do any good with him at the helm whatever T shirt he wears,:dog:

Well Miliband would not have been leader for me but I do like what he believes in and what he stands for.
Things like the unjust and heartless bedroom tax that he would get rid of, the upbuilding not bringing down of the NHS just to name 2.

I personally don't much care what T shirts anyone wears or how they look or talk, I judge them on what they stand for, and give me Ed Miliband with all his faults over the lying and betraying Nick Clegg and even moreso over the totally heartless and procrastinating incompetent that is David Cameron.

I help elect a party to govt., I will personally never be able to vote for Ed Miliband, Clegg or David Cameron where I am living at present, I will be voting for a party to govt.
Quite frankly, I think all the parties and the UK are being badly served by the poor choice of the leaders of all 3 main parties.

I judge a party on its policies and I agree with about 75% of Labour policies whereas I am stumped to find any I support now for the Conservative party due to their rotten heartlessness to those most vulnerable,people sick and disabled and incurable and terminally sick people too.
As to the Lib Dems, well I neither believe or really isten to what they say now anyway.

I cannot speak for Kyle and Kizzy but I love you dearly too Kazanne.I am sure they likely do too however.

[Kyle]

Kizzy , Kyle and Joey , I love you all dearly but c'mon , Milliband is a dick , Labour will never do any good with him at the helm whatever T shirt he wears,:dog:

Lol what did I do? :laugh:

[Kazanne]

Well Miliband would not have been leader for me but I do like what he believes in and what he stands for.
Things like the unjust and heartless bedroom tax that he would get rid of, the upbuilding not bringing down of the NHS just to name 2.

I personally don't much care what T shirts anyone wears or how they look or talk, I judge them on what they stand for, and give me Ed Miliband with all his faults over the lying and betraying Nick Clegg and even moreso over the totally heartless and procrastinating incompetent that is David Cameron.

I help elect a party to govt., I will personally never be able to vote for Ed Miliband, Clegg or David Cameron where I am living at present, I will be voting for a party to govt.
Quite frankly, I think all the parties and the UK are being badly served by the poor choice of the leaders of all 3 main parties.

I judge a party on its policies and I agree with about 75% of Labour policies whereas I am stumped to find any I support now for the Conservative party due to their rotten heartlessness to those most vulnerable,people sick and disabled and incurable and terminally sick people too.
As to the Lib Dems, well I neither believe or really isten to what they say now anyway.

I cannot speak for Kyle and Kizzy but I love you dearly too Kazanne.I am sure they likely do too however.

Joey,get into that Number 10 and we'll be served well,you know you'de have my vote.:hug: seriously though,I do think Labour would stand a better chance of getting back in power were they to ditch Ed Milliband , I find him really false.

[Northern Monkey]

^I agree about Milliband.However i can categorically state that i have never and will never vote Conservative.

[Kizzy]

Kizzy , Kyle and Joey , I love you all dearly but c'mon , Milliband is a dick , Labour will never do any good with him at the helm whatever T shirt he wears,:dog:

He deserves a chance at least, what's the alternative con/UKIP? *SHUDDER*

[joeysteele]

He deserves a chance at least, what's the alternative con/UKIP? *SHUDDER*

He does indeed and the odd thing about the polling is that although they state he isn't liked, he is the leader seen to be more in touch with peoples needs whereas Cameron is seen as totally the reverse.

He has problems in Scotland now that badly need addressing,Labour has taken the Scots for granted for a good while but I do hope he is the PM after 2015.
Thankfully the Scots Nats would never be supportive of the Conservatives in Westminster so really Cameron and co should not be wringing their hands in glee at Labours problems there.

This T shirt issue is ridiculous really, hardly an issue to bring him down with.
I am more bothered at the bad judgements and heartless policies this coalition keep doing and even looking at,such as the idea of a large reduction in ESA allowance.
They should be the reasons to bring someone down,not what T shirt they have been wearing for a day or so in a cause.

[Kazanne]

He deserves a chance at least, what's the alternative con/UKIP? *SHUDDER*

http://s3.amazonaws.com/christmas_gif_shop/gifs/58/shelf/santa-spank.gif?1323958929 :hehe:

[Kizzy]

He does indeed and the odd thing about the polling is that although they state he isn't liked, he is the leader seen to be more in touch with peoples needs whereas Cameron is seen as totally the reverse.

He has problems in Scotland now that badly need addressing,Labour has taken the Scots for granted for a good while but I do hope he is the PM after 2015.
Thankfully the Scots Nats would never be supportive of the Conservatives in Westminster so really Cameron and co should not be wringing their hands in glee at Labours problems there.

This T shirt issue is ridiculous really, hardly an issue to bring him down with.
I am more bothered at the bad judgements and heartless policies this coalition keep doing and even looking at,such as the idea of a large reduction in ESA allowance.
They should be the reasons to bring someone down,not what T shirt they have been wearing for a day or so in a cause.

Exactly joey, I'm hoping that is at the forefront of minds when voting next year too.
Kaz thanks for finding my christmas sig it's perfect! :joker: