2006/7 Ashes thread

[Dan_]

Anyone staying up to watch/listen to the start of the ashes? I'll stay up and listen until I end up falling asleep.

Not sure about Giles playing instead of Monty!

[Dan_]

346/3 after the first day.Really poor start,I was listening until gone 3 and I've watched the highlights on the bbc website.

That first ball by Harminson was so wide! I'm suprised to see Pieterson bowling as much as he has.There seems to be something up with Harmy and he didn't bowl after 2pm.

[bonnie43uk]

Harmisons 1st ball last night was a joke!!! .. he bowled it at 3rd slip!!!!

.. they gotta shape up, or they're gonna get hammered!!

..Mind you, as my mate keeps pointing out, we lost the 1st test last year, and went on to beat the Aussies, so lets not lose all hope!!

[SiMoN!]

i would have watched it if i have sky sports
but i dont so i cant watch it

i liked it last time

[Dan_]

There are highlights on bbc2 every night and on the bbc website :dance2:

[SiMoN!]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
There are highlights on bbc2 every night and on the bbc website :dance2:

oh yer
i just looked now

i might watch it tonight if i remember

[Red Moon]

Crickets on..... folks

[SiMoN!]

i watched the highlighs


if it wasnt for flintoff it would have been like 500-0

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by simon_ha
i watched the highlighs


if it wasnt for flintoff it would have been like 500-0

I was looking for odds on 450-2 after the first ball last night. I hope the rest of the team play better tonight.

[SiMoN!]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by simon_ha
i watched the highlighs


if it wasnt for flintoff it would have been like 500-0

I was looking for odds on 450-2 after the first ball last night. I hope the rest of the team play better tonight.

lol if not hope we do some good batting

[Red Moon]

We need to at 373-3. We could really do with a few wickets.

[Red Moon]

It is a record stand (171 runs)!

Oh my God!

[SiMoN!]

who is that

[Red Moon]

It's a new record stand at the ground... no two batsman have made so many runs together there.

And Harmison is still blowing as bad as I do.

[SiMoN!]

why isnt flintoff having ago yet then

or anyone but him

[Red Moon]

Who knows. He has given away 5 runs in extra's. I guess, Flintoff is trying to see if he can regain his confidence. They should send him home and call for a replacement. We really need Jones fit and well again.

[SiMoN!]

ohhhh i remember Jones
you do mean simon Jones is it

lol they should call you up

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by simon_ha
ohhhh i remember Jones
you do mean simon Jones is it

lol they should call you up

We would be sure to lose then even if I can bowl better than Harmison, I can't field to save my life.... LOL

[SiMoN!]

lol

well you must do bettert then what we are doing now

[Red Moon]

I would give it more of a go....

Night night Simon, off to bed to listen to the cricket.

[SiMoN!]

lol
i will watch it tomoz


nightnight

[Red Moon]

I give us to the 4th day before we lose by an innings and 50 runs.

[Dan_]

I thought the bowling was bad but 53/3 is poor.I just hope Pieterson, Bell and Flintoff can salvage it so we don't face the follow on.

At least Harmison managed to get a wicket, that might give him a bit more confidence.I wonder how long it will be before Monty get's his chance?

Highlights are now up on the bbc website btw.

[Jay]

Flintoff looked back to his best taking 4 wicket's, we need Flintoff and Pieterson to build a good partnership if were to get close to Austraila.

[Dan_]

Flintoff is really the only one bowling upto the required standard to beat Australia.

[Red Moon]

It's started... and we haven't lost a wicket yet.... come on boys

[Jay]

Yeah, so far so good.

[Dan_]

Pietersen out, damn.

Boycott and Blowers should commentate all night :cheer:

[Jay]

:shocked: Pieterson's out

[Red Moon]

Lets hope we can keep it up until lunch. We need to stay in as long as possible.

[Dan_]

I'm thinking we wont make it past 400 to avoid the follow on.

[Red Moon]

It only takes a couple of hundreds from a couple of players and we should make it. Here is hoping they can do it.

[Jay]

Flintoff's gone

[Dan_]

Flintoff out for a duck, we are well and truly stuffed.

[Jay]

Not even past the 100 mark and already 5 wicket's gone.

[Red Moon]

Oh Hell... I knew I shouldn't have turned the radio on!

[Dan_]

It's worth listening only for the legend that is Blowers.

We are in serious trouble though :cloud:.May aswell write this test off now.

[~Kizwiz~]

Oh god... sorry but Reds making me listen to it now :bawling:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Oh god... sorry but Reds making me listen to it now :bawling:

It's good for you.

[~Kizwiz~]

Hmmm.... thats debatable..... I'm waiting to go to bed!

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by kizwiz
Hmmm.... thats debatable..... I'm waiting to go to bed!

Okay we will take the Cricket with us.

[Red Moon]

Send for the England A-Team..... they can't do any worse.

In fact if the Austrians carry on and get about 260 runs in their second innings, that will give them a lead of 700 runs just before lunch. Then they can put England into bat and it will all be over by the end of the day.

Then the real headache will start for England. How to pick themselves up in time for the second test.

[i]BTW - it was the largest margin in test history when the follow-on was not applied.[i]

[Red Moon]

Scorecard Day 3

First Test, Brisbane

Australia first innings 602-9 declared

England first innings (overnight 53-3)

A Strauss c Hussey b McGrath 12
A Cook c Warne b McGrath 11
I Bell c Ponting b Clark 50
P Collingwood c Gilchrist b Clark 5
K Pietersen lbw b McGrath 16
A Flintoff c Gilchrist b Lee 0
G Jones lbw b McGrath 19
A Giles c Hayden b McGrath 24
M Hoggard c Gilchrist b Clark 0 S
Harmison c Gilchrist b McGrath 0
J Anderson not out 2

Extras (b-2 lb-8 w-2 nb-6) 18

Total (all out, 61.1 overs) 157

Bowling: Lee 15-3-51-1 (nb-5 w-2), McGrath 23.1-8-50-6 (nb-1), Clark 14-5-21-3, Warne 9-0-25-0

Australia second innings

J Langer not out 88
M Hayden run out 25
R T Ponting not out 51

Extras (lnb-4lb) 5

Total (for one wickets, 40overs) 181

Bowling: Hoggard 8-1-31-0, Anderson 9-1-54-0, Flintoff 5-2-11-0, Harmison 10-1-45-0, Giles 5-0-22-0, Pietersen 3-0-14-0

[Dan_]

We are being well and truly thrashed.Vaughan, Trescothick and Simon Jones are big misses.

Hoggard and Flintoff seem like the only bowlers who are really going to test the Aussie's attack.I would give Monty a go next text, he cannot do much worse.If Harmison and Anderson continue to underperform we may aswell replace them, what's the use in having out of form players?

[Red Moon]

England first innings (overnight 53-3)

<table style="text-align: left; width: 519px; height: 316px;" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Strauss
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Hussey</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">12</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Cook</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Warne</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">11</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">I Bell</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Ponting</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Clark</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">50</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">P Collingwood</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Gilchrist</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Clark</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">5
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">K Pietersen</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">lbw</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">0
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Flintoff</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Gilchrist</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Lee</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">0
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">G Jones</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">lbw</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">19</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Giles</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Hayden</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">24
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">M Hoggard</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Gilchrist</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Clark</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">0
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">S Harmison</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Gilchrist</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b McGrath</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">0
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">J Anderson</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Gilchrist</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">2</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">Extras (b-2 lb-8 w-2 nb-6)</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">18</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">Total (all out, 61.1 overs)</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">157</td></tr></tbody></table>
Bowling: Lee 15-3-51-1 (nb-5 w-2), McGrath 23.1-8-50-6 (nb-1), Clark 14-5-21-3, Warne 9-0-25-0

Australia second innings

<table style="text-align: left; width: 521px; height: 130px;" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"><tbody><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">J Langer</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">88
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">M Hayden</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">run out</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">25</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">R T Ponting</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">51</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">Extras (lnb-4lb)</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">5
</td></tr><tr><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">Total (for 1 wickets, 40overs)</td><td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">181</td></tr></tbody></table>
Bowling: Hoggard 8-1-31-0, Anderson 9-1-54-0, Flintoff 5-2-11-0, Harmison 10-1-45-0, Giles 5-0-22-0, Pietersen 3-0-14-0

[Red Moon]

Here we go again.... Day 4

Let me know what scorecard you like and I will post daily updates, the first one or the second one in the table?

[Red Moon]

Australia Declare

England need 648 runs to win the game, or to bat for 2 Days to save the game.

Current score England 3-0

looks like I was wrong I expected them to declare when they had a lead of about 700

[Red Moon]

England 24-0 and possible thunder storms tomorrow.

[Red Moon]

Silly batting mistake by Strauss.... hooked a ball and was caught.

England 29-1

Here we go again... I hope not

[Red Moon]

There goes Bell lbw.

England 36-2

Onward they go... at least there are 4 more test matches

[Red Moon]

<span style="font-weight: bold;">Australia first innings 602-9 declared
England first innings 157

Australia second innings (overnight 181-1) </span>

<table style="text-align: left; width: 521px; height: 130px;" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">J Langer </td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">100
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">M Hayden</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">run out</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">25</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">R T Ponting</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">60
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;"> Extras (lnb-4lb)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">5
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px; font-weight: bold;">Total (declared, 45.1overs)
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px; font-weight: bold;">202</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Bowling: Hoggard 11-2-43-0, Anderson 9-1-54-0, Flintoff 5-2-11-0 (nb-1), Harmison 12.1-1-54-0, Giles 5-0-22-0, Pietersen 3-0-14-0

<span style="font-style: italic;">Did not bat: D.Martyn, M.Hussey, M.Clarke, A.Gilchrist, S.Warne, B.Lee, S.Clark, G.McGrath</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold;">England second innings </span>

<table style="text-align: left; width: 519px; height: 196px;" border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Strauss
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c sub (Broad)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Clark</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">11</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Cook</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Hussey</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Warne</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">43</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">I Bell</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">lbw
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Warne</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">0</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">P Collingwood</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">st Gilchrist</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Warne</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">96
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">K Pietersen</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">92
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">A Flintoff</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">c Langer</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">b Warne</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">16
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">G Jones</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">not out
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">12</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px;">Extras (b 8 lb 5 nb 9 w 1)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px;">23
</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 135px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 100px;">
</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 200px; font-weight: bold;">Total (for 5, 80 overs)</td> <td style="vertical-align: top; width: 50px; font-weight: bold;">293
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Bowling: Lee 17-0-81-0, McGrath 12-2-30-0, Clark 19-5-56-1, Warne 31-7-108-4, Hussey 1-0-5-0

<span style="font-style: italic;">To bat: Giles, Hoggard, Harmison, Anderson</span>

[Red Moon]

There is some hope to be taken from last nights play. At least we got a score that is more on par with what a test side should be getting. 293-5 isn't that bad and there was some decent scores from Cooke, Collingwood and Pietersen. The chances of us winning or drawing the game are very slim but there has been a big improvement in the batting from the first innings.

Our problem has been the bowling. I still think Harmison needs to be set home and we need to get another fast bowler into the side, but then I keep thinking do we need one. We could play two spinners and have both Giles and Panesar in the team. Leaving us with 3 quick bowlers in Flintoff Hoggard and Anderson. And don't forget we still have Collingwood who Flintoff seems to have forgotten can blow a bit in a holding role.

[Dan_]

We did much better yesterday.A bit more encouraging that we may even get to around 350 with Australia in very good form.

Only downside is Warney is starting to hit form. :rolleyes: But Pietersen and Collingwood started to win the battle with him, KP really had him rattled.

We really do need to make a rapid change in bowling, I'd proably go with Monty and Giles the way that Harmison is playing.

I've heard a very strong rumour that Vaughan is not too far off being fit once again, now that would be a tremendous boost to the side,he's got that calming presence on the side and is also a great batsman.

Ponting and McGrath are also starting to struggle with injuries, it might just be starting to turn in our favour again.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
I've heard a very strong rumour that Vaughan is not too far off being fit once again, now that would be a tremendous boost to the side,he's got that calming presence on the side and is also a great batsman.

Who do you drop for Vaughan would be the queston and where do you play him, number 3 or as an opener?

Originally posted by BB fernzy
Ponting and McGrath are also starting to struggle with injuries, it might just be starting to turn in our favour again.

Lets hope that's true. The back to back tests might see them off.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by BB fernzy
I've heard a very strong rumour that Vaughan is not too far off being fit once again, now that would be a tremendous boost to the side,he's got that calming presence on the side and is also a great batsman.


Who do you drop for Vaughan would be the queston and where do you play him, number 3 or as an opener?

Tough one on who to get rid of, possibly Bell or Cook.Both have had one good innings and one poor innings.I'd have him as an opener, purely for his expierence.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by BB fernzyTough one on who to get rid of, possibly Bell or Cook.Both have had one good innings and one poor innings.I'd have him as an opener, purely for his expierence.

Going on the form of the last match I guess you would drop Strauss. Crookes form has been rather good since he joined the England side and he would benefit from his experience and make him a far better player.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by BB fernzyTough one on who to get rid of, possibly Bell or Cook.Both have had one good innings and one poor innings.I'd have him as an opener, purely for his expierence.

Going on the form of the last match I guess you would drop Strauss. Crookes form has been rather good since he joined the England side and he would benefit from his experience and make him a far better player.

Strauss has got out by making two identically stupid shots so he might be an option to drop.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
Strauss has got out by making two identically stupid shots so he might be an option to drop.

The Australians will be targeting him, they use to do it to Graham Gooch many years ago. They got him out nearly every time the same way for the whole of the English summer. Looks like they are doing same to him, picking on his habits and instincts. They are hard things to break and take a lot time in the nets and training.

[Dan_]

England unchanged from the first test :mad:

We have won the toss though and opted to bat.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by BB fernzy
England unchanged from the first test :mad:

It's a mistake... it will cost us the game.

And now we are 32-1..... here we go again.... I really hope we don't lose this one.

[Dan_]

Better night for us.266/3 with Bell, Collingwood and Pieterson all getting half century's.

[Dan_]

Well done to the lads last night especially Colly and KP.551/6-declared and now Australia are 28/1.

I hope the bowlers have as good a time as the batsman.

Warne and McGrath looked average.

[Dan_]

Australia 312 for 5, Hoggard getting all four wickets yesterday.Only Flintoff and Hoggard seem to be getting wickets.

If only Giles hadn't dropped Ponting when he was on 35 :rolleyes:

[Dan_]

How did we contrive to lose that game? :conf2::sad::cloud:

[Jay]

We Batted terribley, Warne bowled great we had no answer to his bowling still can't believe we lost this test.

[BigSister]

im confused when I left for uni this morning we were still in the lead what happened

[Dan_]

We got bowled out cheaply and they made the total required with a few overs to spare.

[BigSister]

awww thats too bad

[SiMoN!]

:bored::bored::bored::bored::bored:

thats all i can say

[Dan_]

Originally posted by BigSister
awww thats too bad

It is, we threw the game away :sad:

[Dan_]

Great start to the 3rd test for England.We bowled Australia all out for 244,Monty took 5 wickets and Harmison 4.

I'm just glad we finally gave Monty a chance and it totally payed off, can anyone see Giles doing that?

[Mike]

Yeah it's great Monty finally got his chance his bowls have been top class.

[BigSister]

yay go Monty ive been wanting him to play all the time

[Dan_]

We batted fairly poorly only making 215.Harmison was 3rd highest scorer! Monty did aswell as Giles does with the bat, still bemused we never picked him before now.

Australia now 119/1.