Who would you say is more jealous of their own gender?

[Mystic Mock]

Men? Women? Or both are equally as bad as each other? I'm a bit bored so I'm just interested to start up a fun psychological discussion.

Imo from what I see on here and with my friends and family I think that women come off as more jealous of a pretty girl than men do if they see a handsome guy, I don't notice jealousy as much with men anyway as maybe we might hide it better I don't know.

Poll will be up shortly to cast your votes.

[Livia]

I'm going to say it's about equal, but women get accused more by men.

[Cal.]

Equal I guess - it varies.

[joeysteele]

I'd say equal overall. I have come across it in both genders.

[Kazanne]

From the slagging off any boy band gets on here,I'de say men but saying that some women get catty but as Livia said guys like to blame jealousy in the fact girls don't like other girls,so would have to go equal

[Vicky.]

I think women tend to be more jealous of things such as physical appearance.

Where men tend to be more jealous about things like wealth and power.

On here (and most places) its made out as if every woman is jealous of every other woman though and its seriously ****ing annoying. Pretty much every reality tv show when a woman (especially if they are attractive) is voted off its ALWAYS the fault of 'jealous women' :rolleyes:

[Livia]

So true, Vicky...

[Mystic Mock]

I think women tend to be more jealous of things such as physical appearance.

Where men tend to be more jealous about things like wealth and power.

On here (and most places) its made out as if every woman is jealous of every other woman though and its seriously ****ing annoying. Pretty much every reality tv show when a woman (especially if they are attractive) is voted off its ALWAYS the fault of 'jealous women' :rolleyes:

The bottom part of your post sounds like me when Lauren gets eliminated on TXF.:joker:

[MTVN]

I think women tend to be more jealous of things such as physical appearance.

Where men tend to be more jealous about things like wealth and power.

On here (and most places) its made out as if every woman is jealous of every other woman though and its seriously ****ing annoying. Pretty much every reality tv show when a woman (especially if they are attractive) is voted off its ALWAYS the fault of 'jealous women' :rolleyes:

Agree with this

[kirklancaster]

I have never been short of male friends, but for most of my life, I have elected to spend most of my time with both, girlfriends, and 'girl' friends.

This being so, I have very strong opinions on this subject which are based on my own personal experiences, and also upon my non personal experiences.

I actually believe that women are less jealous of their own sex than men are of theirs, but the difference is, that women do not hide their jealousy as well as men do.

If a woman genuinely dislikes another woman through jealousy, she is more likely to bitch, let her feelings be known, and definitely not 'hang around' with that person.

Men, on the other hand, are far more devious. A man who is jealous of another man will be more likely to never confront his feelings, and will be far more likely to hang around with the guy whilst backstabbing him at any opportunity, and even secretly wish for his downfall whilst slapping his back and wishing him well.

If a woman is pretty, and attractive to men, jealous women will not 'hang with her' under any circumstances, but will instead form little groups and backbite the pretty girl, label her a slut etc. etc.

A covertly jealous man by comparison, will be 'friends' and hang with the object of his envy, if that man is handsome and able to 'pull' girls, because the jealous guy is hoping to benefit by association from the guy's abilities to 'pull' women.

I have experienced this throughout my life. Which is why I preferred the company of women, once I realised that successive male 'friends' were actually back-stabbing jealous bastards - something which did not happen overnight.

It is the same with wealthy guys, powerful guys etc, the trusting unaware ones are always surrounded by sycophantic hangers on who - in reality - are jealous backstabbers, there only to benefit from association.

Famous victims who suffered because of covert male jealousy, include; Elvis Presley and Mike Tyson.

Just my opinion.

[Ninastar]

none

labels are so bad!!!!! stereotypes are wrong!!!!!!!

[Kizzy]

Yes and the next time I see someone labelled a 'chav' I'll point it out.

I would say women are envious of the lack of pressure to be both productive and nurturing.

[Niamh.]

I'm going to say it's about equal, but women get accused more by men.

This.

Do we really have to put people into boxes based on their gender? People are individuals, some people are jealous of others, some people are bitchy, that doesn't come down to gender, it comes down to personality and we all have different ones

[MTVN]

This.

Do we really have to put people into boxes based on their gender? People are individuals, some people are jealous of others, some people are bitchy, that doesn't come down to gender, it comes down to personality and we all have different ones

Typical woman thing to say

[Niamh.]

Typical woman thing to say

:fist:

[Raph]

100% women, tv voting stats say it all really. I was watching IAC with two white girls yesterday and they both hated on Kendra and Nadia... I wonder why.

[Raph]

Typical woman thing to say

Yeah, sure individuals vary but on the whole I'd easily say women are far more jealous than men

[Kyle]

:joker: Raph wading in with the blunderbuss, you get off that fence mate you'll get a splinter.

I'm gonna cop out and pick the diplomatic answer, both equal.

[Niamh.]

100% women, tv voting stats say it all really. I was watching IAC with two white girls yesterday and they both hated on Kendra and Nadia... I wonder why.

Is the fact that they were white relevant? lol

I completely disagree with your point though. Men "hate" good looking male celebrities just as much as women do, the difference is that women are accused of hating because of jealousy but men aren't. Most straight men hate One Direction for example and that's put down to them being a **** band, if a woman hated Cheryl Cole it'd be because she's jealous of her not because, well, she's a **** "musician" this happens all the time, I notice it all the time. Another example is driving, I'll be a passenger in the car with my husband and as we travel he'll come across people doing stupid things that'll make him annoyed, just as many men and women but when its a woman he'll say something like "****ing woman" where as if its a man it's "wanker" or whatever, the fact that he's a man isn't brought into it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes its most certainly women and their green eyed ways


I have never met a woman yet who cant meet another woman without giving them the head to toe look


evil, evil species

[Kazanne]

100% women, tv voting stats say it all really. I was watching IAC with two white girls yesterday and they both hated on Kendra and Nadia... I wonder why.

Maybe there is something in their personalities that the girls don't like,maybe they come across as big headed etc,but because you find them attractive its maybe easy for you to form that conclusion,the girls probably just don't like them,it happens.being attractive doesn't automatically make you likeable.

[Kazanne]

Is the fact that they were white relevant? lol

I completely disagree with your point though. Men "hate" good looking male celebrities just as much as women do, the difference is that women are accused of hating because of jealousy but men aren't. Most straight men hate One Direction for example and that's put down to them being a **** band, if a woman hated Cheryl Cole it'd be because she's jealous of her not because, well, she's a **** "musician" this happens all the time, I notice it all the time. Another example is driving, I'll be a passenger in the car with my husband and as we travel he'll come across people doing stupid things that'll make him annoyed, just as many men and women but when its a woman he'll say something like "****ing woman" where as if its a man it's "wanker" or whatever, the fact that he's a man isn't brought into it

:clap1::clap1:Well said Niamh.

[Niamh.]

Maybe there is something in their personalities that the girls don't like,maybe they come across as big headed etc,but because you find them attractive its maybe easy for you to form that conclusion,the girls probably just don't like them,it happens.being attractive doesn't automatically make you likeable.

Exactly (not that I dislike Kendra or Nadia yet anyway, have only seen one episode so far!) Women are awful jealous of these good looking women yet Ashley Roberts was a firm favourite in her year and probably would have won if Charlies daughter hadn't been been paraded around at the eleventh hour :fist: how is that logical? :think:

[Raph]

Is the fact that they were white relevant? lol

I completely disagree with your point though. Men "hate" good looking male celebrities just as much as women do, the difference is that women are accused of hating because of jealousy but men aren't. Most straight men hate One Direction for example and that's put down to them being a **** band, if a woman hated Cheryl Cole it'd be because she's jealous of her not because, well, she's a **** "musician" this happens all the time, I notice it all the time. Another example is driving, I'll be a passenger in the car with my husband and as we travel he'll come across people doing stupid things that'll make him annoyed, just as many men and women but when its a woman he'll say something like "****ing woman" where as if its a man it's "wanker" or whatever, the fact that he's a man isn't brought into it

Thing is, with one direction he genuinely weren't talented. That being said, someone like Ben Haenow who's obviously attractive has a large male fanbase. I'm going to see if there are any psychological studies on things like this.. Would be interesting to see factual evidence, either way.

[Liam-]

Look at the women getting defensive :hehe:

But no, I'd genuinely say it was an equal thing, I'll admit to being jealous of other men a few times.. either because of looks, who their partner is, their success/wealth.

Women do get accused of it more, but i think that's because jealous women are much more obvious than jealous men.

[Niamh.]

Thing is, with one direction he genuinely weren't talented. That being said, someone like Ben Haenow who's obviously attractive has a large male fanbase. I'm going to see if there are any psychological studies on things like this.. Would be interesting to see factual evidence, either way.

You've missed my point completely Raph. I'm not saying men are jealous of One Direction, I'm saying that their reason for disliking them probably is because their **** and people accept that but people don't accept the same for a woman if she hates a good looking female musician, it's almost always put down to jealousy even though it makes no sense what so ever because there's a whole host of very attractive female musicians that women do like just like there are good looking female reality TV star that women like but still women are always accused of being jealous if they dislike a goodlooking female Reality TV Star

[Niamh.]

Look at the women getting defensive :hehe:

But no, I'd genuinely say it was an equal thing, I'll admit to being jealous of other men a few times.. either because of looks, who their partner is, their success/wealth.

Women do get accused of it more, but i think that's because jealous women are much more obvious than jealous men.

It's actually a subject that really pisses me off and I don't think you'd really understand unless you're a woman. This whole casual sexism thing that goes on so much without people really being sexist but its just "normal". Like another example by my husband again lol (he's not that bad really) was my 14 year old daughter was talking about food she'd buy when she was an adult and getting her own food shopping and Gav says to her "Oh you better marry a rich man so" luckily I've taught my daughter better than that and her reply was "I'll be making my own money" but if it had been my son who he was having the conversation with do you reckon he would have said "Oh you better marry a rich woman" ? of course he wouldn't and I wouldn't mind, my daughter is a straight A student and the most into school over either of the boys, it's insulting eventhough it's not intended to be and is meant to be a joke

[Kyle]

This is usually the time when Harry Hill shouts "FIGHT" then a big blow up woman comes out of one door and a huge blow up man comes out another.

[kirklancaster]

Look at the women getting defensive :hehe:

But no, I'd genuinely say it was an equal thing, I'll admit to being jealous of other men a few times.. either because of looks, who their partner is, their success/wealth.

Women do get accused of it more, but i think that's because jealous women are much more obvious than jealous men.

Yep. That's been my experience. Liamh.

[Kyle]

I don't know if any of you have watched that film Lovelace (I was made to watch it by a woman it wasn't my choice) but the man on that who is Linda Lovelace's partner kinda reminds me of the strong male jealous type that can be very dangerous. He would beat her and all sorts, it wasn't good to watch at all. Some men are like that, always touching their partner in public, keeping them really close and trying to speak for them at every opportunity. Disgrace to the gender tbh.

[LukeB]

I say both because I believe everyone is equal :flutter:

[Liam-]

It's actually a subject that really pisses me off and I don't think you'd really understand unless you're a woman. This whole casual sexism thing that goes on so much without people really being sexist but its just "normal". Like another example by my husband again lol (he's not that bad really) was my 14 year old daughter was talking about food she'd buy when she was an adult and getting her own food shopping and Gav says to her "Oh you better marry a rich man so" luckily I've taught my daughter better than that and her reply was "I'll be making my own money" but if it had been my son who he was having the conversation with do you reckon he would have said "Oh you better marry a rich woman" ? of course he wouldn't and I wouldn't mind, my daughter is a straight A student and the most into school over either of the boys, it's insulting eventhough it's not intended to be and is meant to be a joke

I was actually joking.. but you don't have to be a certain gender to understand sexism, i grew up surrounded by women, i like to think that i have a more vast knowledge of women and how they think/work than the average man, i know how infuriating it could be.. but i don't really think that suggesting women are jealous of other women is a sexist thing, more just people being ignorant.

[Natalie.]

Equal, some people are better at hiding it than others

[InOne]

Women definitely comment on the physical appearance of other women more. But mainly in individual ways.

[Niamh.]

I was actually joking.. but you don't have to be a certain gender to understand sexism, i grew up surrounded by women, i like to think that i have a more vast knowledge of women and how they think/work than the average man, i know how infuriating it could be.. but i don't really think that suggesting women are jealous of other women is a sexist thing, more just people being ignorant.

of course it's a sexist thing, it may not be intentionally sexist or maliciously so but it's still sexism

[Kazanne]

Exactly (not that I dislike Kendra or Nadia yet anyway, have only seen one episode so far!) Women are awful jealous of these good looking women yet Ashley Roberts was a firm favourite in her year and probably would have won if Charlies daughter hadn't been been paraded around at the eleventh hour :fist: how is that logical? :think:

I really liked Ashley too Niamh,as did I Charlie,I like a lot of attractive girls but they have to have a decent personality to go with it,sometimes you find attractive people are very up themselves as they know they get by due to their looks .

[Creggle]

Men are so much worse, like you wouldn't even believe the hate some guys have for other men they feel are 'better' than themselves, it's pretty worrying when you see it, especially in friends/family you care about. Worst part is that men will do more than just 'bitch' about the person given the chance, I don't believe a woman would really do anything beyond that when jealous. Also, when 'bitching' a woman vents out her frustrations however misguided they may be, a bloke will bottle it up and it will eat away at him.

[kirklancaster]

Men are so much worse, like you wouldn't even believe the hate some guys have for other men they feel are 'better' than themselves, it's pretty worrying when you see it, especially in friends/family you care about. Worst part is that men will do more than just 'bitch' about the person given the chance, I don't believe a woman would really do anything beyond that when jealous. Also, when 'bitching' a woman vents out her frustrations however misguided they may be, a bloke will bottle it up and it will eat away at him.

Thank God for you Creg - I was beginning to feel lonely.:joker:

[Raph]

I was actually joking.. but you don't have to be a certain gender to understand sexism, i grew up surrounded by women, i like to think that i have a more vast knowledge of women and how they think/work than the average man, i know how infuriating it could be.. but i don't really think that suggesting women are jealous of other women is a sexist thing, more just people being ignorant.

I completely disagree with your last point. Whilst yes it can be sexist to jump to that conclusion, it doesn't indicate ignorance by any means.

[Liam-]

I completely disagree with your last point. Whilst yes it can be sexist to jump to that conclusion, it doesn't indicate ignorance by any means.

If someone says that every single woman is jealous of another woman, just because they're women.. then that is ignorant in my eyes, it's taking into account only one variable of a situation and coming up with a completely wrong idea of why someone might be reacting the way they are and that is ignorant.

[Daniel.]

Both

[LukeB]

Both get jealous the same amount. Does it matter though? who gets jealous more. You can't control your own feelings and that. some boys take jealously a bit to far then girls but both equally jealous.

[Raph]

If someone says that every single woman is jealous of another woman, just because they're women.. then that is ignorant in my eyes, it's taking into account only one variable of a situation and coming up with a completely wrong idea of why someone might be reacting the way they are and that is ignorant.

Who said that lol

[JoshBB]

Didn't see the equal option, otherwise I would have putten that.

Men are jealous of each other for dick size and how "manly" one another is.
Women tend to be jealous based off of how pretty one another is.

This doesn't apply to all men or all women, but they tends to be the main reasons behind it all.

[Marsh.]

Jealous of dick size. :umm2:

I don't tend to see how big other guys dick's are. :unsure: Apart from the ones that wear them on their head. :idc:

[LukeB]

Jealous of dick size. :umm2:

I don't tend to see how big other guys dick's are. :unsure: Apart from the ones that wear them on their head. :idc:

:laugh2:

[JoshBB]

Jealous of dick size. :umm2:

I don't tend to see how big other guys dick's are. :unsure: Apart from the ones that wear them on their head. :idc:


You've never heard men going "oh im like 8 inches!!!1" or the occasional awful liar who will say 12.

[Marsh.]

You've never heard men going "oh im like 8 inches!!!1" or the occasional awful liar who will say 12.

Yeah, but there never tends to be "jealousy" because you never actually see how big people are.

People who sit there bragging about their package and sex life tend to 99% of the time be lying anyway. :laugh:

[Kyle]

I'm 5 and a half inches take that all of you

[Kyle]

Oh wait I read the tape measure wrong, it was in centimetres.

[Marsh.]

I'm 5 and a half inches take that all of you

I don't think there's enough for us all to take it. :fan:

[Raph]

:laugh2: Kyle

[Mystic Mock]

A classic example of women being jealous is how they've hated Lauren on TXF from week 3 onwards when there's been some horrors in this series.

[Niamh.]

A classic example of women being jealous is how they've hated Lauren on TXF from week 3 onwards when there's been some horrors in this series.


Yeah that makes a lot of sense because no pretty girl ever won X Factor what with all them jealous women voting :umm2:

[Shaun]

if you're using the X Factor as a source of reasoned social analysis then you need to re-evaluate your life

[Niamh.]

Little Mix only won because they're all so old, fat and ugly :unsure:

[Calderyon]

Both equally, but reasons might differ.

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah that makes a lot of sense because no pretty girl ever won X Factor what with all them jealous women voting :umm2:

You mean Leona who is despite having huge success probably the most controversial winner of all time? And let's face it we all know why people didn't like Leona and it's the same with Lauren this series.

And Tamera being branded as a ***** by the female audience was not jealousy how?

And Makosi from BB6 seemed to rub the female audience the wrong way.

[Mystic Mock]

if you're using the X Factor as a source of reasoned social analysis then you need to re-evaluate your life

Well Reality TV Shows do show interesting psychology from both genders.

And the Showbiz world is the best way to get this sort of information.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

:umm2:

[Mystic Mock]

Little Mix only won because they're all so old, fat and ugly :unsure:

Well on the show itself they did promote the ugly one that kept crying all the time.

[Liam-]

Yikes.

[Black Dagger]

I can't cope anymore.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Perv and proud.

[LukeB]

anyway

[Black Dagger]

Senior Member

[Niamh.]

You mean Leona who is despite having huge success probably the most controversial winner of all time? And let's face it we all know why people didn't like Leona and it's the same with Lauren this series.



And Tamera being branded as a ***** by the female audience was not jealousy how?



And Makosi from BB6 seemed to rub the female audience the wrong way.


Leona won, how was she the most controversial winner, pretty much everyone wanted her to win, what are you on lol ? Makosi was a love hate character and it was **** all yo do with what she looked like

[Marsh.]

I'm surprised the truth hasn't posted yet.


*takes cover*

[Marsh.]

Leona won, how was she the most controversial winner, pretty much everyone wanted her to win, what are you on lol ? Makosi was a love hat character and it wax **** all yo do with what she looked like

This. Leona was the runaway favourite for ages and Makosi was a controversial housemate from the start because of her behaviour.

[Mystic Mock]

Leona won, how was she the most controversial winner, pretty much everyone wanted her to win, what are you on lol ? Makosi was a love hat character and it wax **** all yo do with what she looked like

40% voted for Ray Quinn to beat her ffs, and she won the most hated polls in her series.

And even if you look at how girls talk to the ones they perceive to be prettier in real life as well, they put the sickly sweet voice on and kind of talk to them in a hostile way.

I'm not explaining it very well but I know what I'm trying to say.

[Marsh.]

So 40% voted for Ray because they hated Leona as opposed to simply liking Ray? :unsure:

[Shaun]

dear god

[Marsh.]

dear god

You called? :angel:

[Niamh.]

I give up lol

[Mystic Mock]

The way you people are making out that my logic actually makes no sense.

12 voters voted for women for a reason and my post sums up a lot of their feelings.

[Mystic Mock]

The way you people are making out that my logic actually makes no sense.

12 voters voted for women for a reason and my post sums up a lot of their feelings.

[Mystic Mock]

So 40% voted for Ray because they hated Leona as opposed to simply liking Ray? :unsure:

I'll ask you Marsh and answer honestly here, do you believe that Ray would've got 40% to win against Shayne Ward? Leon Jackson? Alexandra Burke? Joe? Matt Cardle? Little Mix who promoted the ugly girl the most? James Arthur? Or Sam Bailey?

And I still love how you have all decided to ignore how some female viewers called Tamera a ***** last year without no proof to that whatsoever.

[Marsh.]

It's because your logic makes no sense. :joker:

I'm sure plenty men had much to say about Tamara as well, just as they did with the Misha B bully claims.

And yes, I do think Ray would've received a large percentage against those other winners.

[Vicky.]

I'll ask you Marsh and answer honestly here, do you believe that Ray would've got 40% to win against Shayne Ward? Leon Jackson? Alexandra Burke? Joe? Matt Cardle? Little Mix who promoted the ugly girl the most? James Arthur? Or Sam Bailey?

And I still love how you have all decided to ignore how some female viewers called Tamera a ***** last year without no proof to that whatsoever.

I think Ray would have recieved a LOT more than 40% against Leon (definitely), matt and sam bailey tbh. Possibly Joe too though he was insanely popular.

[Vicky.]

Also the thought of grown women being jealous of Lauren is laughable to me. Shes a pretty much a child and she looks like one :umm2:

Unless you are meaning the teenyboppers who are accused of voting for the boybands year in year out...if so, those dont seem to be voting this year

[Daniel-X]

Men I've found my boyfriends who I have usually are jealous if I have friends who are boys. But I'm not fussed if they have friends who are girls

I can be catty though I voted men but now I'd probably say equal