Rural school is denied top grade by Ofsted inspectors because it's 'too English'

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rural school is denied top grade by Ofsted inspectors because it's 'too English' and not diverse enough

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Report said pupils at Middle Rasen Primary School in Lincolnshire lacked 'first-hand experience' of modern British society

Said pupils should interact with 'counterparts from different backgrounds'

But parents criticised 'bizarre' decision because small town is 97% white

'Very few' at the 104-pupil school are from ethnic groups, report says

Headteacher believes comments are reaction to so-called Trojan Horse plot


Ofsted refused it an ‘outstanding’ rating and graded it ‘good’ instead.
It said the school was failing to do enough to ensure pupils understand the ‘cultural diversity of modern British society’ and experience ‘first-hand interaction with counterparts from different backgrounds’.

But parents complained Middle Rasen Primary in Market Rasen was being punished for factors outside its control and had effectively been told it was ‘too English’.

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This is madness?

[user104658]

What are they supposed to do? Bus kids in from the nearest city once a week?

I think there are only one or two children at my daughter's school who aren't Caucasian. It's a small Scottish village surrounded by hills, with a population of less than 3000... I'm not sure what they're really supposed to do about that!

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are they supposed to do? Bus kids in from the nearest city once a week?

I think there are only one or two children at my daughter's school who aren't Caucasian. It's a small Scottish village surrounded by hills, with a population of less than 3000... I'm not sure what they're really supposed to do about that!

I dont think there are any black or asian kids at mine either and its a similar size

[sassysocks]

Blimey, god forbid a school in England is 'too English'. Can't these idiots see how they pander to the extremists of religions such as Islam.

They come across as weak and lacking respect and confidence in the own country and its culture and values. It almost sounds like self-hate. I feel sorry for these weak and blind people - they are not typically English in my book. They need to develop a bit of backbone. Thank god for the rest of us not so quick to kiss feet and deny their own heritage in their own country.

[InOne]

What about the flip side of the schools that are 95% Bengali or Pakistani. The whole story seems very silly and will no doubt be forgotten soon.

[Tom4784]

I'm guessing there's more to it than what's been said, if it isn't though then it's highly unfair as the school can only work with what it's given. It can't magic up students of different creeds and backgrounds out of nowhere.

Ofsted should critique on things that can be changed and improved, an area's population is beyond the power or reach of the school so it's quite unfair to mark it down due to that.

[Northern Monkey]

I would guess that these inspectors have some kind of tick sheet with questions such as
'Does the school represent the cultural diversities of modern Britain?' etc.Things like that.Probably more of an admin issue as to the questions on their report sheet than anything else.

[arista]

This makes no sense

[Livia]

It's ridiculous crap like this that gives UKIP political fuel.

[Cherie]

I would guess that these inspectors have some kind of tick sheet with questions such as
'Does the school represent the cultural diversities of modern Britain?' etc.Things like that.Probably more of an admin issue as to the questions on their report sheet than anything else.

Ofsted inspections are box ticking exercises, the committee who wrote the check list will have ignored the fact that rural England is 90 per cent White British :umm2:

[Creggle]

It's beginning, British people are being punished for being British in Britain :wink:

[Northern Monkey]

Ofsted inspections are box ticking exercises, the committee who wrote the check list will have ignored the fact that rural England is 90 per cent White British :umm2:

Yeah exactly.I don't think the ethnic background of pupils should even come into it,But how well the school teaches the kids it's got.

[JoshBB]

If the town is 97% "english" anyway.. then that's a bit weird tbh. Surely they did have at least some black/asian people though right?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Being too English should be seen as a good thing.

[JoshBB]

Being too English should be seen as a good thing.

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

[Vicky.]

By too English Im guessing they mean too white..as English people come in all shapes, sizes and colours.

[Kazanne]

Disgusting,if true.

[Redway]

It's beginning, British people are being punished for being British in Britain :wink:

Presumably you mean English... you don't have to be white to be British.

But yeah ridiculous on Ofsted's part if this is all there is to it.

[MTVN]

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

[Crimson Dynamo]

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

They dont need to be taught that at all, its not like folks go on holiday and cant cope. As long as parents teach kids well they dont need schools forcing this bollocks down their throats.

Its like watching Balamory and the school there was like one in East London, its like eh? - there is no school in the Western ISles like this....oh yeah its the BBC shoving immigration is great down out throats again...:facepalm:

[Livia]

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

Oh Josh...

While I'm not going to pretend that we have a glittering past, we've given lots of things to the world too. And we're not the only country with a "horrible history".

I feel your school has let you down, somewhat.

[Kizzy]

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

Well you have a point there, but this is a prime example of bureaucracy gone stark raving mad :laugh:

[Ninastar]

Oh Josh...

While I'm not going to pretend that we have a glittering past, we've given lots of things to the world too. And we're not the only country with a "horrible history".

I feel your school has let you down, somewhat.

preach it, girlfriend.

it truly worries me that children are taught things like this

[Kyle]

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

Bet you wish you were born into a shining beacon of a nation like China, or maybe Japan? No wait how about Germany? Italy? Spain? What about Columbia?
Oh I know....Bosnia?

I feel for you to be born in a horrible oppressive backwater country like England when there are so many other wonderful beacons of virtue to choose from. You must cry yourself to sleep every night.

[Ninastar]

Bet you wish you were born into a shining beacon of a nation like China, or maybe Japan? No wait how about Germany? Italy? Spain? What about Columbia?
Oh I know....Bosnia?

I feel for you to be born in a horrible oppressive backwater country like England when there are so many other wonderful beacons of virtue to choose from. You must cry yourself to sleep every night.

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(kidding... i totally agree with you

[Kyle]

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(kidding... i totally agree with you

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(kidding... i totally agree with you

Haha that picture :joker:

Just don't understand this self loathing attitude that seems to be popular among the 'liberals' nowadays. Nobody ever kicks off about the Spanish colonisation campaigns or Japan's horrific regimes in Korea but instead target the British Empire as some sort of ultimate evil that cannot be matched. For me the events that Nazi Germany oversaw between 1933-1945 far overshadows the 'misdeeds' of the English from all the way back when the Normans stuck an arrow in Harold Godwinson's eye and nicked his country. But nah it's US that should all be ashamed to be English. Just us. **** it I'm proud to be English.

[Kizzy]

Haha that picture :joker:

Just don't understand this self loathing attitude that seems to be popular among the 'liberals' nowadays. Nobody ever kicks off about the Spanish colonisation campaigns or Japan's horrific regimes in Korea but instead target the British Empire as some sort of ultimate evil that cannot be matched. For me the events that Nazi Germany oversaw between 1933-1945 far overshadows the 'misdeeds' of the English from all the way back when the Normans stuck an arrow in Harold Godwinson's eye and nicked his country. But nah it's US that should all be ashamed to be English. Just us. **** it I'm proud to be English.

I thought you were Scottish? :laugh:

[Kyle]

I thought you were Scottish? :laugh:

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in? :shrug:

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

[Kizzy]

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in? :shrug:

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

:joker: that's not what you were saying during the Scottish referendum! ;)

[Benjamin]

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

Every country has a horrible history lol

[Kizzy]

Every country has a horrible history lol

It has, and I bet too other countries have sprawling conurbations with recent and multi generation immigrants as well as pockets with little or no integration with the indigenous population. Why is this so hard for OFSTED to understand?

[kirklancaster]

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in? :shrug:

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

:joker::joker::joker:

Lend me that fecking Joke book - every one's ignoring mine.

[kirklancaster]

Blimey, god forbid a school in England is 'too English'. Can't these idiots see how they pander to the extremists of religions such as Islam.

They come across as weak and lacking respect and confidence in the own country and its culture and values. It almost sounds like self-hate. I feel sorry for these weak and blind people - they are not typically English in my book. They need to develop a bit of backbone. Thank god for the rest of us not so quick to kiss feet and deny their own heritage in their own country.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Brilliantly put.

These bastards have their own covert agenda and will not stop until every town's skyline is filled with the domes of Mosques, every Christian chapel and church are Bingo halls, and we are all living under Sharia law - or dying under it because we don't fit the brief.

[the truth]

by this reckoning supporting England and singing any English/british anthems and songs is racist

[the truth]

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

Brilliantly put.

These bastards have their own covert agenda and will not stop until every town's skyline is filled with the domes of Mosques, every Christian chapel and church are Bingo halls, and we are all living under Sharia law - or dying under it because we don't fit the brief.

these idiots polictically correct fools of the radical liberal left and the usual crowd of atheists who mock anyone with beliefs are too blame
theyre so stupid they actually lump all religions the same and Christianity the same as islamd lol..........little do they realise theyre marching straight into sharia law
you stand for nothing you fall for anything

[Ammi]

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

..I agree with you and I don't think it's even playing devil's advocate because they did get a great..(good) Ofsted but the head herself acknowledges that they haven't done enough in terms of linking or twinning with other schools to give the children an understanding of other cultures/traditions etc but it's something they are working on..so they really couldn't have got an 'Outstanding'....there are a lot of similar rural schools to this and mine is one of them but we're twinned with some inner city London schools and also one in Africa and one in India as well....if other cultures are not taught then indeed there will be a 'bubble effect' to the children's education and that's something Ofsted do and should consider imo...

[kirklancaster]

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

I agree, that on these controversial topics, we are always reliant upon the accuracy and honesty of the source, for formulating our opinions, and I also agree that "diversity awareness" does need to be taught, but, in my opinion, this can often be achieved by good teaching alone. No one needs to wheel in a gagged and bound Peter Sutcliffe on a sack trolley - 'Hannibal Lecter' style - and seat him in class for three years to teach kids about serial killers.

Joking apart, that would be a pretty dangerous thing to do if the situation wasn't correctly monitored eh?

Well no more dangerous than what could transpire if this school - or others like it which are in more racially diverse locations - capitulate to Ofsted and go too far in their efforts to please and appease it.

They could ultimately end up in a situation where the indigenous 'English' children become the 'ethnic' minority, and its performance figures plummet faster than Ed Milliband's popularity. There are numerous inner city schools where this is the actual 'Status Quo'.

As I have said before elsewhere - true integration in this country does not exist outside of white collar, middle class areas.

Adult immigrants are highly suspicious of, contemptuous of, or even racially intolerant of, British people. For diverse reasons, upon coming to Britain, they gravitate to locations where their 'own kind' are already ensconced, and 'Ghettos' are formed - and yes, I am dealing with Asian immigrants here.

For the most part, these adult immigrants keep themselves to themselves, remain suspicious of indigenous British people, and do not attempt to learn the English language, or British customs.

Over time, these areas become 'seed beds' where the more educated, intelligent and radical immigrants (or even British born grown up children of immigrants) develop their extreme fundamentalist viewpoints from their original contempt of we British. It is then not long, before these fundamentalists emerge from the shadows and begin to brazenly denounce our traditions, morals, and 'Western' way of life.

This is not integration, it is desired usurpation. They do not want to 'fit in' with us, they want to eradicate this free, democratic, multi-cultural, multi-faith country and replace it with another State of Islam.

This being so, it is only within schools and with children, where real integration has any realistic chance of actually being achieved, but there has to be a sensible and cautious agenda. Otherwise - as stated - it could all too easily result in a situation where the indigenous 'English' children become the 'ethnic' minority.

I believe that since the report under discussion, it has emerged that Ofsted has actually criticised some of these inner city schools for the same reason - though I don't know if this is genuine criticism or a just a show of PC 'balancing'.

What I do know, is that this is the greatest country on the planet and it's people are among the most racially tolerant on the planet, but in order to keep it this way, we need to ensure that 'tolerance' does not become 'apathy'.

St. Francis Xavier famously said: “Give me the child until he is seven and I’ll give you the man”.

Let's just ensure that the 'Man' is not a Muslim Fundamentalist sympathiser due to being 'given' to the wrong people until the age of seven.

[Niall]

Being too English should be seen as a good thing.

:umm2: Are you on crack? Unbridled patriotism like that is a cancer on society.

[kirklancaster]

:umm2: Are you on crack? Unbridled patriotism like that is a cancer on society.

:joker::joker::joker: