Edwina or Kendra?

[Daniel.]

Who's side were you on during that argument?

[Marsh.]

Edwina completely misinterpreted what was being said but there was no need for Kendra to kick off like that.

[Loukas]

Kendra (although she shouldn't of reacted the way she did.)

[Heaven = Winner]

Not my two faves conflicting with each other http://i.imgur.com/GZJWQKb.gif

I can't choose a side http://i.imgur.com/GZJWQKb.gif even tho I voted for Edqueena

[Firewire]

Edwina

[smudgie]

Edwina.

[Cal.]

Edween the Queen x

[ruiphillips]

Edwina tore Kendra apart, if Hugh didn't before.

[Jamesy]

Edwina was a little too forceful butting in, not quite appearing to want to listen (suits the political world well then).

Although there was no need for Kendra to go off on one f'ing and blinding. Just made her look like an idiot.

So on the whole I'm with Edwina, even though she didn't bother to listen to what the others were trying to elaborate on.

[JoshBB]

Not my two faves conflicting with each other http://i.imgur.com/GZJWQKb.gif

I can't choose a side http://i.imgur.com/GZJWQKb.gif even tho I voted for Edqueena

Edween the Queen x

Of everyone you could make this series' "Queen", you went with Edwina.. :facepalm:

[Daniel.]

Of everyone you could make this series' "Queen", you went with Edwina.. :facepalm:

No lies though

[Liam-]

Kendra, she shouldn't have kicked off like that, but Edwina was in the wrong and just wound her up.

[Marsh.]

I see everyone keeps bringing up Kendra and Hefner but doesn't bring up Currie's 4 year fling with John Major. :laugh:

[Shaun]

Edwina misinterpreted her, yes, but ultimately Kendra talks a lot of bollocks and all of this "I would hate it if there were never any cameras on me" and "she picked on me at the most emotional moment!" as if she cannot function without the attention, and as if her story was a narrative that needed everyone's complete agreement and focus, is total BS and she's a twat.

[mizzy25]

Kendra, Edwina just butted in and caused a load of hassle it had nothing @ all to do with her.

[mr rochester]

Edwina was making the point that when you have children you cannot always put yourself first. I agree with that notion. Kendra was doing her usual 'appearing on the Kendra show' stance (this is what the show is to her - her show. Evidence of this was in an earlier episode where she kept repeating 'Who's the reality STAR around here?' Kendra behaved appallingly with her potty mouth>

Edwina rightly told her that Kendra could not dominate Edwina - nor can she. Kendra behaved badly and made everyone suffer when the evening should have been a celebration of Jake's labours. Anything for air time, seems to be Kendra's raison d'etre.

Why can't Kendra be disagreed with? Why could Edwina not join in the conversation when she had something very valid to say? I am not sure why Michael Burke claims to find Kendra so fascinating. Someone who can communicate only by swearing instead of standing their corner and supporting their own argument hasn't really formulated their argument well in the first place.

I hope Kendra apologises discreetly without the necessity for full blown fanfare…Kendra is a mepdia ***** and it seem she believes this whole show revolves around her. The best thing she can now do is win ten stars and stop saying 'ewwwww' all the time when required to win a star. In other words commit to the well being of the other campmates with little spotlight on her very own self. I might respect her a little more if she were capable of this gesture.

[Cherie]

Edwina was making the point that when you have children you cannot always put yourself first. I agree with that notion. Kendra was doing her usual 'appearing on the Kendra show' stance (this is what the show is to her - her show. Evidence of this was in an earlier episode where she kept repeating 'Who's the reality STAR around here?' Kendra behaved appallingly with her potty mouth>

Edwina rightly told her that Kendra could not dominate Edwina - nor can she. Kendra behaved badly and made everyone suffer when the evening should have been a celebration of Jake's labours. Anything for air time, seems to be Kendra's raison d'etre.

Why can't Kendra be disagreed with? Why could Edwina not join in the conversation when she had something very valid to say? I am not sure why Michael Burke claims to find Kendra so fascinating. Someone who can communicate only by swearing instead of standing their corner and supporting their own argument hasn't really formulated their argument well in the first place.

I hope Kendra apologises discreetly without the necessity for full blown fanfare…Kendra is a mepdia ***** and it seem she believes this whole show revolves around her. The best thing she can now do is win ten stars and stop saying 'ewwwww' all the time when required to win a star. In other words commit to the well being of the other campmates with little spotlight on her very own self. I might respect her a little more if she were capable of this gesture.


:love:

[joeysteele]

For me Edwina too. I thought she was making good points that Kendra was just seeming to dismiss completely.

[GypsyGoth]

Neither of them were in the right.

Kendra was giving advice and her claim to fame is that she let some ancient old man have sex with her. And as for Edwina, she should have enough class not to have a battle of wits with the defenseless.

[Cal.]

Of everyone you could make this series' "Queen", you went with Edwina.. :facepalm:

who are you tho

[Cal.]

Edwina was making the point that when you have children you cannot always put yourself first. I agree with that notion. Kendra was doing her usual 'appearing on the Kendra show' stance (this is what the show is to her - her show. Evidence of this was in an earlier episode where she kept repeating 'Who's the reality STAR around here?' Kendra behaved appallingly with her potty mouth>

Edwina rightly told her that Kendra could not dominate Edwina - nor can she. Kendra behaved badly and made everyone suffer when the evening should have been a celebration of Jake's labours. Anything for air time, seems to be Kendra's raison d'etre.

Why can't Kendra be disagreed with? Why could Edwina not join in the conversation when she had something very valid to say? I am not sure why Michael Burke claims to find Kendra so fascinating. Someone who can communicate only by swearing instead of standing their corner and supporting their own argument hasn't really formulated their argument well in the first place.

I hope Kendra apologises discreetly without the necessity for full blown fanfare…Kendra is a mepdia ***** and it seem she believes this whole show revolves around her. The best thing she can now do is win ten stars and stop saying 'ewwwww' all the time when required to win a star. In other words commit to the well being of the other campmates with little spotlight on her very own self. I might respect her a little more if she were capable of this gesture.

:clap1:

[Black Dagger]

Edqueena.

[kirklancaster]

Kendra, she shouldn't have kicked off like that, but Edwina was in the wrong and just wound her up.

This.

[waterhog]

going to do a poem on these 2.

[Shaun]

i'd prefer a haiku

[Heaven = Winner]

Of everyone you could make this series' "Queen", you went with Edwina.. :facepalm:

You're damn right I did.

http://i.imgur.com/UhRf70s.gif

[erinp5]

Edwina was not part of the debate and she was rude with her input ,Kendra lost ground when she started to curse and get aggressive.
Who would I rather spend time with ...Kendra ...Edwina is a pain in the arse and needs to return to oblivion were she belongs .

[Mystic Mock]

Kendra was in the right, Edwina was obviously trying to cause trouble, entertaining trouble but still trouble.

[coco the clown]

Never thought I'd say this but well done Edwina
Kendra went with a very old (rich) man
I think Kendra is ashamed of herself & Edwina was the person she's blaming
Kendra is total rubbish, in her heart she knows it, but everyone else is to blame, she's American, and all that that implies!

[Marsh.]

I really don't see what Kendra "going with an old man" has to do with it? :confused:

Edwina had a 4 year fling with a married man behind her husband's back, should we bring that up to?

[Kizzy]

Agree with sanctimonious edwina... :laugh: Have to put other people first eh, did she put norma first when she was banging her hubby?

[Kizzy]

eek... spooky marsh! :joker:

[Marsh.]

:fan:

[Kizzy]

Thinking about it this is a generational thing maybe? In your mid 20s whether a mother or not your life and the decisions you make are based primarily on what you think is right for you.
Fast forward to your 40's and beyond and that flips to what's best for others first, in my opinion anyway.
Not that I agree with edwina, I don't think she expressed her view on this in a positive way to kendra, she was dismissive and disparaging in her attitude...she was quick to accuse kendra of being rude for her reaction, not taking into consideration she butted into a conversation uninvited.
Double standards?

[Marsh.]

It wasn't just that she butted in, but did so without contributing anything to the discussion other than to patronise Kendra and tell her "I don't agree" as though the great EDWINA CURRIE's opinion is gospel and does not need explaining or discussing further other than to tell Kendra "I disapprove and I am superior to you".

Bitch! :fist:

[Drew.]

Edwina shouldn't have stuck her nose in like that but Kendra is a foul mouthed bint, seeing as she didn't keep her mouth quiet then they're both as bad as each other in this situation.

[Ammi]

...I think that both behaved equally as badly in different ways...Edwina was extremely condescending, she made the statement but then tried to shut it straight down with...'that's all I'm saying..'..and a dismissive wave of her hand, how completely rude, baiting and childish..and it really isn't for her to say what priorities parents have or how they instrument those priorities in their lives, how judgemental ..she really is awful...but Kendra's reaction was also bad and she did herself no favours at all....there is no 'side' to take when two 'growups' behave like they did imo....

[Cherie]

...I think that both behaved equally as badly in different ways...Edwina was extremely condescending, she made the statement but then tried to shut it straight down with...'that's all I'm saying..'..and a dismissive wave of her hand, how completely rude, baiting and childish..and it really isn't for her to say what priorities parents have or how they instrument those priorities in their lives, how judgemental ..she really is awful...but Kendra's reaction was also bad and she did herself no favours at all....there is no 'side' to take when two 'growups' behave like they did imo....

Great TV though Ammi :D:so much more interesting than the farcical trials!

[Ammi]

Great TV though Ammi :D:so much more interesting than the farcical trials!

..I'll be honest Cherie..I fell asleep and missed it so I just Youtubed it just now..:laugh:...but yeah, I sleep through all the exciting TV moments..:sad:...

[Vanessa]

I like Kendra and i find Edwina extremely annoying and patronising. I hope she does well on the trial, but she seems too scared of everything. :laugh:

[Niamh.]

They were both being dickheads tbh, Edwina was baiting a bit but Kendra reacted way over the top when she could have just had a conversation about it

[Lee.]

I thought kendra's outburst was completely over the top and unjustified. :bored:

[Niamh.]

There should be a neither option on that Poll

[aj2463]

Kendra all the way! The old bat should mind her business.. She's too ashamed to talk about her own life that she has to butt i to other peoples

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who's side were you on during that argument?

Kendra was talking true gold plated american bollocks and when Edwina called her on it she spat the dummy

what a child

[Tarryn]

Edwina was smart/nasty enough to know Kendra was ready to explode.
She had no right to criticize Kendra in a conversation she was not even part of.
Edwina is a nasty stuck up old bat & in the real world would have probably got a smack in the face. I thought Kendra was quite restrained.
I'm sure there have been a ton of conversations in there that Edwina had an issue with but she chose to go for Kendra.
She would have never done this to any of the really popular camp mates like Mel.
Foggy's reaction would have been ten times worse than Kendra's had he been on the receiving end.
Plus, why is everyone offended by Kendra's language ?............Jimmy uses far worse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Edwina was smart/nasty enough to know Kendra was ready to explode.
She had no right to criticize Kendra in a conversation she was not even part of.
Edwina is a nasty stuck up old bat & in the real world would have probably got a smack in the face. I thought Kendra was quite restrained.
I'm sure there have been a ton of conversations in there that Edwina had an issue with but she chose to go for Kendra.
She would have never done this to any of the really popular camp mates like Mel.
Foggy's reaction would have been ten times worse than Kendra's had he been on the receiving end.
Plus, why is everyone offended by Kendra's language ?............Jimmy uses far worse.

" I thought Kendra was quite restrained."


what on earth can you mean by saying that?:shrug:

[Niamh.]

Edwina was smart/nasty enough to know Kendra was ready to explode.
She had no right to criticize Kendra in a conversation she was not even part of.
Edwina is a nasty stuck up old bat & in the real world would have probably got a smack in the face. I thought Kendra was quite restrained.
I'm sure there have been a ton of conversations in there that Edwina had an issue with but she chose to go for Kendra.
She would have never done this to any of the really popular camp mates like Mel.
Foggy's reaction would have been ten times worse than Kendra's had he been on the receiving end.
Plus, why is everyone offended by Kendra's language ?............Jimmy uses far worse.

I suppose its because she was using it towards someone in an aggressive manner is the difference

[Tarryn]

" I thought Kendra was quite restrained."


what on earth can you mean by saying that?:shrug:

Edwina was so nasty to her for no reason.
I'm not sure if they showed the argument uncut or how long it went on for but Kendra really should have challenged Edwina to explain herself more.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Edwina was so nasty to her for no reason.
I'm not sure if they showed the argument uncut or how long it went on for but Kendra really should have challenged Edwina to explain herself more.

Edwina just called her out on talking bollocks and Kendra got mad because she was busy thinking everyone thought her pearls of wisdom were solid gold

[Tarryn]

Edwina just called her out on talking bollocks and Kendra got mad because she was busy thinking everyone thought her pearls of wisdom were solid gold

It's not Edwina's place to tell people what they can or can't say.
What right has she got to lecture people ?.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not Edwina's place to tell people what they can or can't say.
What right has she got to lecture people ?.

what you mean like Kendra was lecturing the group...

:hehe:

[Tarryn]

what you mean like Kendra was lecturing the group...

:hehe:

How was Kendra lecturing the group :conf:

[Niamh.]

tbf to Kendra, they asked about her life in the Playboy mansion and as a Reality TV Star and she was explaining her life basically, she wasn't lecturing them she was answering their question, imo Edwina was baiting and trying to belittle Kendra but Kendra completely over reacted to that and became too aggressive imo towards Edwina

[Tarryn]

tbf to Kendra, they asked about her life in the Playboy mansion and as a Reality TV Star and she was explaining her life basically, she wasn't lecturing them she was answering their question, imo Edwina was baiting and trying to belittle Kendra but Kendra completely over reacted to that and became too aggressive imo towards Edwina

Agree. Let's face it, Edwina is looking down her nose at Kendra. She gave that away when talking to Michael about her later that show.
Sometimes another person can make you feel like talking in a rational manner will not work, I think that's why Kendra exploded like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

tbf to Kendra, they asked about her life in the Playboy mansion and as a Reality TV Star and she was explaining her life basically, she wasn't lecturing them she was answering their question, imo Edwina was baiting and trying to belittle Kendra but Kendra completely over reacted to that and became too aggressive imo towards Edwina

yes

I went there and i had no idea you had to shag Heff....:joker:

I would be mad if all my life was not on tv.....

'live in a moment' and 'never live your life for other people :sleep:

'Get your heartless ass out of our conversations, shut the ******* up and go back to sleep where you belong", before breaking down in tears.

'You come in here with your piece of sh-t ass and make people for feel bad. Who are you? The Queen of England? The Queen of the jungle?Just shut your f-cking mouth, you f-cking piece of sh-t. Shut your mother-f-cking mouth.'


all the fault of edwina.....:idc:

[Niamh.]

yes

I went there and i had no idea you had to shag Heff....:joker:

I would be mad if all my life was not on tv.....

'live in a moment' and 'never live your life for other people :sleep:

'Get your heartless ass out of our conversations, shut the ******* up and go back to sleep where you belong", before breaking down in tears.

'You come in here with your piece of sh-t ass and make people for feel bad. Who are you? The Queen of England? The Queen of the jungle?Just shut your f-cking mouth, you f-cking piece of sh-t. Shut your mother-f-cking mouth.'


all the fault of edwina.....:idc:

I never actually said it was all Edwinas fault if you read my posts, I said they were both idiots :idc:

[Tarryn]

yes

I went there and i had no idea you had to shag Heff....:joker:

I would be mad if all my life was not on tv.....

'live in a moment' and 'never live your life for other people :sleep:

'Get your heartless ass out of our conversations, shut the ******* up and go back to sleep where you belong", before breaking down in tears.

'You come in here with your piece of sh-t ass and make people for feel bad. Who are you? The Queen of England? The Queen of the jungle?Just shut your f-cking mouth, you f-cking piece of sh-t. Shut your mother-f-cking mouth.'


all the fault of edwina.....:idc:

It's not Edwina's business.
Besides Edwina has never courted the press has she (?).

[Jamesy]

Even though Edwina poked her nose in. There was no need for Kendra to go swearing and shouting. Exploding with anger just made her look stupid to be honest and she made some minor tiff out like it was a life changing ordeal that will scar her for life.

Very aggressive tone in her voice and the way she moved around. How anyone can defend that kind of behaviour I don't know.

[GoldHeart]

heard some of the argument on morning telly today
and im not a fan of edwina but in this case im on her side all the way when it comes to *****bag kendra
and i love that kendra has met her match because polite tinchy was calm with her and tried to make peace when she had a go at him whereas edwina will tell her how it is!! and she cant shut her up so it serves the american bitch right!!! :hello:

its shame its backfired on edwina though but i knew it would because unless Kendra kills someone people will always support her and and she's a conniving slut who keeps shouting her mouth off and the idiot campmates think she's nice!!! :shocked:

[Liam-]

heard some of the argument on morning telly today
and im not a fan of edwina but in this case im on her side all the way when it comes to *****bag kendra
and i love that kendra has met her match because polite tinchy was calm with her and tried to make peace when she had a go at him whereas edwina will tell her how it is!! and she cant shut her up so it serves the american bitch right!!! :hello:

its shame its backfired on edwina though but i knew it would because unless Kendra kills someone people will always support her and and she's a conniving slut who keeps shouting her mouth off and the idiot campmates think she's nice!!! :shocked:

Not a fan then i take it? :hehe:

[GoldHeart]

Not a fan then i take it? :hehe:

you know society is messed up that you can support a washed up old has been playboy model but thats all she is

what is her talent? :sleep:
she's not even pretty and her personality is extremely ugly too
but cause she has boobs and blonde hair people like her?
what utter shallow bull sh it if that's all people support her for !!!
she's not fun atall
because she's as vile as janice dickenson !! and as calculating as amy willerton :crazy:

[Liam-]

you know society is messed up that you can support a washed up old has been playboy model but thats all she is

what is her talent? :sleep:
she's not even pretty and her personality is extremely ugly too
but cause she has boobs and blonde hair people like her?
what utter shallow bull sh it if that's all people support her for !!!
she's not fun atall
because she's as vile as janice dickenson !! and as calculating as amy willerton :crazy:

Well I'm a fan of hers and i can tell you, her boobs and blonde hair does nothing for me, so that's not what I'm supporting her for :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Well I'm a fan of hers and i can tell you, her boobs and blonde hair does nothing for me, so that's not what I'm supporting her for :laugh:

Can you please expound on why a good looking booby blond girl does nothing for vou Liam? :evilgrin:

(only joking - you know I'm a fan:joker:)

[GoldHeart]

Well I'm a fan of hers and i can tell you, her boobs and blonde hair does nothing for me, so that's not what I'm supporting her for :laugh:

which means if its not her hair and boobs then you clearly find loud obnoxious people entertaining then , each to their own but its ashame poor Alfonso was given a hard time for having the odd little argument and being a big personality
he was never nasty to anyone and was a decent person and even did well in in trials/challenges

with Kendra she twists everything and makes it about herself
and comes across as self centered
who cares about pervy hue hefner and her life at playboy mansion
i haven't found out anything about anyone else because she thinks the whole show should be about her and that everyone should agree with her and when they dont then she kicks off like a baby spitting the dummy out :yuk:
what a great model she is NOT! she cant even conduct herself in a reasonable way she just shouts and swear at people ,
she's disgusting theres nothing ladylike about her
and Nadia has more class infact all the other women in there has more class than Kendra !!! :laugh:

[Liam-]

Can you please expound on why a good looking booby blond girl does nothing for vou Liam? :evilgrin:

(only joking - you know I'm a fan:joker:)

I'm an ass man and prefer brunettes :fan:

[kirklancaster]

tbf to Kendra, they asked about her life in the Playboy mansion and as a Reality TV Star and she was explaining her life basically, she wasn't lecturing them she was answering their question, imo Edwina was baiting and trying to belittle Kendra but Kendra completely over reacted to that and became too aggressive imo towards Edwina

1,000% This.

Kendra repeatedly smiled an embarrassed smile, while other camp mates repeatedly tried to explain the conversation to Edwina - who they thought had taken a small part of Kendra's dialogue out of context - but Edwina didn't want to listen because she was smugly intent on baiting Kendra.

I agree that after losing patience Kendra went completely OTT. but I have always been firm in my opinion that it is the 'active' aggressive person who is to blame in any incident - not the hitherto 'passive' 'reacting' person, even if the latter's reaction is OTT.

If I am standing with my wife in the quiet corner of a pub minding my own business, and a yob leaves his six friends and comes up to us and starts being abusive and making sexist comments to my wife and trying to grope her, so I tell him to go away, and he punches me in the face so I punch him back. Is it really my fault that as an ex-bouncer and trained boxer I break his jaw with my punch, whereas he did not hurt me with his? (Yes - This really happened)

Was my reaction over the top?

Or is it a case of if the prick hadn't done what he did then I wouldn't have done what I did?

Perhaps if Edwina hadn't 'butted in' and taken Kendra's comments out of context, or if she had listened to those who were trying to defuse the situation, or if she hadn't been so intent on baiting her (as Niamh says) then Kendra would not have reacted as she eventually did.

[kirklancaster]

I'm an ass man and prefer brunettes :fan:

I'm a brunette with a nice ass. :creep::joker:

[JoshBB]

Both were out of line, but Edwina essentially started it by making unnecessary comments.