View Full Version : Fleur East - Uptown Funk, the most overrated performance of the night?
Mystic Mock
06-12-2014, 09:55 PM
Am I the only one that thinks that this very gimmicky and average performance was really overrated by the judges tonight? All she did was use a backing track, and danced through most of the performance without singing a note, and then when she sits down on the chair her vocal falls apart, I mean Simon's script fell apart there I think.:joker:
Surely I can't be the only one on here that hasn't fallen for this bull**** with Fleur East am I?
Locke.
06-12-2014, 09:58 PM
Very true Mock, glad to see I'm not the only one on here with some sense
Babayaro.
06-12-2014, 10:01 PM
It was average at best, didn't see the fuss about it at all
Cherie
06-12-2014, 10:02 PM
Yep agree and as for her changing track at the 11th hour, it's about as believable that Simon didn't remember who she was at Judges houses :laugh:
Black Dagger
06-12-2014, 10:03 PM
qt
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
06-12-2014, 10:05 PM
nah
Liam-
06-12-2014, 10:05 PM
No hun
JoshBB
06-12-2014, 10:07 PM
ummm what?! performance of the night tbh
Shaun
06-12-2014, 10:08 PM
it must be very lonely and dark being unable to appreciate this greatness
Cherie
06-12-2014, 10:11 PM
it must be very lonely and dark being unable to appreciate this greatness
:laugh2:
Shaun
06-12-2014, 10:12 PM
i see it's driven you to laughing like a maniac, these are very sad days cherie
Cherie
06-12-2014, 10:13 PM
i see it's driven you to laughing like a maniac, these are very sad days cherie
Sorry Shaun :bawling:
No, lmao its one of or the best performance of the entire series
Headie
06-12-2014, 10:16 PM
Just give up Mock, the bitterness is boring now
GoldHeart
06-12-2014, 10:22 PM
Just give up Mock, the bitterness is boring now
so true !
the Bitterness is awful
always bad mouthing fleur :bored:
daniel-lewis-1985
06-12-2014, 10:44 PM
You must have **** in your eyes and ears because it was AMAZING! Im not even a Fleur fan but I literally watched it back 3 times.
She is as good as any popstar out there at the moment.
Natalie.
06-12-2014, 10:46 PM
Disagree, I thought she was brilliant.
Amy Jade
06-12-2014, 10:50 PM
Is this just a baiting thread? you scallywag!
Brother Leon
06-12-2014, 10:50 PM
Nah. Definitely best of the night tbh. Felt she was getting very over rated before tonight though.
Headie
06-12-2014, 10:58 PM
If you are a fan of Lauren Platt then vote as she's not safe this week.
AKA slag off the best act in a desperate attempt to keep your fave in lmao
joeysteele
06-12-2014, 11:06 PM
I don't see her as anything special,her first song, they may as well have just played Mariah Carey.
For me that is a nothing song and Fleur did absolutely nothing with it to make it stand out.
Her 2nd song was performed good but the arrangement and backing was what made the song sound really good.
None of them are anything like likely World class stars and Fleur while being good,is just another average performer overall.
Mystic Mock
06-12-2014, 11:21 PM
Just give up Mock, the bitterness is boring now
Is it biterness to state the truth?
Heaven = Winner
06-12-2014, 11:25 PM
Is it biterness to state the truth?
The truth would be to admit that Fleur slayed it tonight. :hehe:
Headie
06-12-2014, 11:28 PM
Is it biterness to state the truth?
Where's the truth though?
Just another anti-Fleur thread from you again :idc:
LukeB
06-12-2014, 11:42 PM
In my opinion Fleur gave the best performance since Alexandra Burke - Listen(which has been my favourite, because I haven't saw that moment until now)
King Gizzard
07-12-2014, 12:21 AM
But you love Lauren Platt who can hardly sing and dance at the same time without spontaneously combusting
LukeB
07-12-2014, 12:22 AM
But you love Lauren Platt who can hardly sing and dance at the same time without spontaneously combusting
.
King Gizzard
07-12-2014, 12:25 AM
I am talking to the Mock
LukeB
07-12-2014, 12:25 AM
I am talking to the Mock
Ooh :laugh: sorry
Heaven = Winner
07-12-2014, 12:27 AM
But you love Lauren Platt who can hardly sing and dance at the same time without spontaneously combusting
:clap1:
Strictly Jake
07-12-2014, 02:24 AM
No that was not overrated. And to do that in 24 hours!!!! I honestly would buy that! Loved it! Ben, fleur and Andrea for the final thanks very much
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 02:36 AM
Where's the truth though?
Just another anti-Fleur thread from you again :idc:
I'm stating that she's very overrated (like last years winner was) for other stuff that isn't to do with her singing, if you want to watch a dancing show there is a show on BBC1 called Strictly Come Dancing, and on Sky 1 called So You Think That You Can Dance.
And also how come Fleur was the only one doing an uptempo tonight? Simon deliberately did it to make her standout because she can't actually compete with the other 3 without some pathetic little gimmick, this being the most effective one of them all.
And she wasn't allowed to stay on earlier than Lauren in the time slots either, I wonder why that was? The show has always been a sham, but it doesn't even bother to disguise this year, if you're not a fan of Fleur and have been supporting someone else just give up now as we've been forced to have Fleur win.
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 02:42 AM
But you love Lauren Platt who can hardly sing and dance at the same time without spontaneously combusting
Lauren does better at uptempos than Fleur, it proves it as she needs less gimmicks on them than Fleur does.
And I get that Lauren may not be to your style but pretending that she can't sing when she clearly can is laughable, the only one that factually cannot hold a note is Fleur.
She was relatively fun for the earlier weeks when there was boring dross in there that couldn't hold a note, but they're all gone now and the fact that Fleur is considered a winner off this Uptown Funk performance is laughable, she actually hardly sung on a singing competition.
Amy Jade
07-12-2014, 09:17 AM
Is it really seen as a gimmick to be able to sing and dance these days?
Lauren is a great singer, I enjoyed her voice a lot and I have thrown votes her way in the past but Fleur is more than a singer, she puts on a performance and thus far she is the only contestant in the final 4 who I think is just more than a good voice.
Crimson Dynamo
07-12-2014, 09:58 AM
average and cliched
I'm stating that she's very overrated (like last years winner was) for other stuff that isn't to do with her singing, if you want to watch a dancing show there is a show on BBC1 called Strictly Come Dancing, and on Sky 1 called So You Think That You Can Dance.
And also how come Fleur was the only one doing an uptempo tonight? Simon deliberately did it to make her standout because she can't actually compete with the other 3 without some pathetic little gimmick, this being the most effective one of them all.
And she wasn't allowed to stay on earlier than Lauren in the time slots either, I wonder why that was? The show has always been a sham, but it doesn't even bother to disguise this year, if you're not a fan of Fleur and have been supporting someone else just give up now as we've been forced to have Fleur win.
She was singing and dancing I don't see the problem, I will be **** boring if the act just had to stand every week and sing a song
As do the 2nd bit;
W4QyAyt2RGk >>>>>>>>> Lauren, Ben, Andrea
Fleur also got 1st & 2nd two of the worst places, the only reason she's getting praise every week is because she's amazing every week
Jamesy
07-12-2014, 10:09 AM
I thought it was really good.
Sure the vocals were no Andrea. But as a performance as a whole Fleur is pretty much ready to be a pop star tomorrow.
Crimson Dynamo
07-12-2014, 10:39 AM
no real great voice
dances like Judy Murray
No personality
1 hit wonder and then the west end
joeysteele
07-12-2014, 10:44 AM
I think of the 2 performances from both one wasn't better then the other, both did better in their 2nd songs but from someone who usually loves female singers, I don't really rate either of these 2 at all.
Instantly forgettable for me.
Kizzy
07-12-2014, 11:09 AM
pfft she is bigged up far too much, that was mediocre at best her range is so limited that monotone 'song' with a decnt hook was about her limit.
Headie
07-12-2014, 12:13 PM
I'm stating that she's very overrated (like last years winner was) for other stuff that isn't to do with her singing, if you want to watch a dancing show there is a show on BBC1 called Strictly Come Dancing, and on Sky 1 called So You Think That You Can Dance.
And also how come Fleur was the only one doing an uptempo tonight? Simon deliberately did it to make her standout because she can't actually compete with the other 3 without some pathetic little gimmick, this being the most effective one of them all.
And she wasn't allowed to stay on earlier than Lauren in the time slots either, I wonder why that was? The show has always been a sham, but it doesn't even bother to disguise this year, if you're not a fan of Fleur and have been supporting someone else just give up now as we've been forced to have Fleur win.
First of all, X Factor is an entertainment programme. Therefore, that includes performances. And performances are often when someone puts on a good show by singing and dancing. If you want to watch a singing contest with no gimmicks, go and watch The Voice on BBC1.
Fleur was the only one that did uptempo because she IS the only one that can do uptempo. Lauren failed miserably last week at Clarity, Ben's voice is only suited to rocker-ish songs, and Andrea just hits ballads every week. None of them can dance as good as Fleur, so why even try and bother? Can you imagine how dull and slow the final will be without her.
And when it gets to final 5, the running order always switches about for the second performances, so I'm not really sure why you're crying over that like it's some massive attempt to rig Lauren out of the competition :shrug: Not sure how we've been forced a Fleur win when her audition wasn't even shown and no one knew who she was until Judges Houses :conf:
You are a lost cause, there's no point explaining all this stuff to you as you are dead set on trying to make Lauren look like the best thing since sliced bread.
First of all, X Factor is an entertainment programme. Therefore, that includes performances. And performances are often when someone puts on a good show by singing and dancing. If you want to watch a singing contest with no gimmicks, go and watch The Voice on BBC1.
Fleur was the only one that did uptempo because she IS the only one that can do uptempo. Lauren failed miserably last week at Clarity, Ben's voice is only suited to rocker-ish songs, and Andrea just hits ballads every week. None of them can dance as good as Fleur, so why even try and bother? Can you imagine how dull and slow the final will be without her.
And when it gets to final 5, the running order always switches about for the second performances, so I'm not really sure why you're crying over that like it's some massive attempt to rig Lauren out of the competition :shrug: Not sure how we've been forced a Fleur win when her audition wasn't even shown and no one knew who she was until Judges Houses :conf:
You are a lost cause, there's no point explaining all this stuff to you as you are dead set on trying to make Lauren look like the best thing since sliced bread.
:clap1:
Crimson Dynamo
07-12-2014, 01:17 PM
First of all, X Factor is an entertainment programme. Therefore, that includes performances. And performances are often when someone puts on a good show by singing and dancing. If you want to watch a singing contest with no gimmicks, go and watch The Voice on BBC1.
Fleur was the only one that did uptempo because she IS the only one that can do uptempo. Lauren failed miserably last week at Clarity, Ben's voice is only suited to rocker-ish songs, and Andrea just hits ballads every week. None of them can dance as good as Fleur, so why even try and bother? Can you imagine how dull and slow the final will be without her.
And when it gets to final 5, the running order always switches about for the second performances, so I'm not really sure why you're crying over that like it's some massive attempt to rig Lauren out of the competition :shrug: Not sure how we've been forced a Fleur win when her audition wasn't even shown and no one knew who she was until Judges Houses :conf:
You are a lost cause, there's no point explaining all this stuff to you as you are dead set on trying to make Lauren look like the best thing since sliced bread.
can you imagine lauren on a tv chat show or radio
i can
can you imagine fluer?
no way, she has no personality
I bet she has no idea what a pineapple is...:idc:
Headie
07-12-2014, 01:51 PM
can you imagine lauren on a tv chat show or radio
i can
can you imagine fluer?
no way, she has no personality
I bet she has no idea what a pineapple is...:idc:
No.
*point invalid - cba reading the rest of your unevenly spaced post*
Crimson Dynamo
07-12-2014, 01:59 PM
In my opinion Fleur gave the best performance since Alexandra Burke - Listen(which has been my favourite, because I haven't saw that moment until now)
and she looks like going the way of AB into obsurity...
and she looks like going the way of AB into obsurity...
Yes, definitely with her being number four on iTunes and all.
LukeB
07-12-2014, 03:10 PM
Andrea's Wrecking ball was overrated because it wasn't that good, too much shouting and it was boring.(imo)
Fleur smashed her performance so the reaction she got was well deserved
I thought it was very slick by X Factor standards and showed her off as a popstar as opposed to a karaoke singer but meh
Liam-
07-12-2014, 03:17 PM
She hasn't exactly got the best vocals, but how anyone can say she or this performance is overrated is beyond me :joker:
can you imagine lauren on a tv chat show or radio
i can
can you imagine fluer?
no way, she has no personality
I bet she has no idea what a pineapple is...:idc:
http://i.minus.com/ibroOjOEiJKvms.gif
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 06:46 PM
Is it really seen as a gimmick to be able to sing and dance these days?
Lauren is a great singer, I enjoyed her voice a lot and I have thrown votes her way in the past but Fleur is more than a singer, she puts on a performance and thus far she is the only contestant in the final 4 who I think is just more than a good voice.
Fleur actually can't sing though, it's like she's become an unintentional joke act.
Black Dagger
07-12-2014, 06:47 PM
lol
Liam-
07-12-2014, 06:48 PM
Fleur actually can't sing though, it's like she's become an unintentional joke act.
Your reaching has sunk to a whole new depth of desperation Mock
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 06:54 PM
First of all, X Factor is an entertainment programme. Therefore, that includes performances. And performances are often when someone puts on a good show by singing and dancing. If you want to watch a singing contest with no gimmicks, go and watch The Voice on BBC1.
Fleur was the only one that did uptempo because she IS the only one that can do uptempo. Lauren failed miserably last week at Clarity, Ben's voice is only suited to rocker-ish songs, and Andrea just hits ballads every week. None of them can dance as good as Fleur, so why even try and bother? Can you imagine how dull and slow the final will be without her.
And when it gets to final 5, the running order always switches about for the second performances, so I'm not really sure why you're crying over that like it's some massive attempt to rig Lauren out of the competition :shrug: Not sure how we've been forced a Fleur win when her audition wasn't even shown and no one knew who she was until Judges Houses :conf:
You are a lost cause, there's no point explaining all this stuff to you as you are dead set on trying to make Lauren look like the best thing since sliced bread.
Yes you said singing in your post along with dancing didn't you?
And Lauren failed on one uptempo out of 3 attempts that she's made, yes she can't dance but she's not that type of singer.
Just because Fleur does uptempos does not make her automatically entertaining either like a lot of people seem to always think with the Olly/Rylan acts every year.
And you honestly don't think that Lauren performing on 3rd, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, and 1st in the running order is not really bad considering she's very likely to succeed away from the show?
And how would you know how Ben and Andrea would do with a dance routine? They've never been tested because they're meant to be your dull males compared to the amazing Fleur that slays every week.
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 06:58 PM
Yes, definitely with her being number four on iTunes and all.
One Direction also do well in the charts so your point is?
Black Dagger
07-12-2014, 06:58 PM
Their new album is flawfree, stop that.
Liam-
07-12-2014, 06:59 PM
Hating on One Direction is such a boring straight guy thing to do
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 07:01 PM
Your reaching has sunk to a whole new depth of desperation Mock
Watch a Fleur and Olly performance back to back on YT and tell me any differences that you see that makes Fleur so standout? Apart from the obvious that guys will like her for.
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 07:03 PM
Hating on One Direction is such a boring straight guy thing to do
Why would I like One Direction? They can't sing, dance, or even emote when performing, and their songs are basic to me.
Black Dagger
07-12-2014, 07:03 PM
Olly Murs and Fleur East are nothing like each other :umm2:
It's like saying Janet Devlin and Lauren are the same act because the majority of the time they did downtempo and were absolutely hopeless at uptempo.
Liam-
07-12-2014, 07:05 PM
Watch a Fleur and Olly performance back to back on YT and tell me any differences that you see that makes Fleur so standout? Apart from the obvious that guys will like her for.
What has Olly got to do with Fleur? :umm2:
Yes, i like Fleur because she shows a bit of skin, total turn on for this homosexual.
Start protesting about something else, this is getting boring now.
Black Dagger
07-12-2014, 07:06 PM
Her abs are insane tbf.
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 07:07 PM
Olly Murs and Fleur East are nothing like each other :umm2:
It's like saying Janet Devlin and Lauren are the same act because the majority of the time they did downtempo and were absolutely hopeless at uptempo.
Lauren did 2/3 uptempos well, that's not exactly Janet Devlin.:joker:
Fleur and Olly are both Simon's little pets.
Liam-
07-12-2014, 07:08 PM
Her abs are insane tbf.
Slap a peen on her and I'll be there.
She is easily one of the most stunning women to ever be on the show.
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
07-12-2014, 07:11 PM
me @ mock in this thread
https://31.media.tumblr.com/fe4a47dc038b86b410416e9b6c9990ab/tumblr_inline_nen68yVbxX1qfhh8u.gif
Headie
07-12-2014, 07:12 PM
me @ mock in this thread
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[2].
Black Dagger
07-12-2014, 07:15 PM
omfg the 'YOU AREN'T IN DA UK YOU IS IN BARBADOS' woman from Strict Parents :lovedup:
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 07:19 PM
me @ mock in this thread
https://31.media.tumblr.com/fe4a47dc038b86b410416e9b6c9990ab/tumblr_inline_nen68yVbxX1qfhh8u.gif
Are you apart of the Weave crowd?:joker:
Braden
07-12-2014, 07:19 PM
It was her adrenaline that really made the performance perfect.
I understand that if she's not your cup of tea then you probably won't understand, but as a fan I have to defend her because I think she's talented. She performs as if she's already a superstar. She can sing, dance and is generally a natural-born performer.
She never came on with a sob story; in fact she was barely highlighted at the beginning. She's performed many different songs that previous acts would never be able to get away with. She's just a breath of fresh air on The X Factor franchise.
I love Fleur and hope she's successful after the show. :love:
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 07:31 PM
It was her adrenaline that really made the performance perfect.
I understand that if she's not your cup of tea then you probably won't understand, but as a fan I have to defend her because I think she's talented. She performs as if she's already a superstar. She can sing, dance and is generally a natural-born performer.
She never came on with a sob story; in fact she was barely highlighted at the beginning. She's performed many different songs that previous acts would never be able to get away with. She's just a breath of fresh air on The X Factor franchise.
I love Fleur and hope she's successful after the show. :love:
Fair enough on this, at least you've come out with a well reasoned post instead of being sarcastic towards the Fleur dislikers.
Shaun
07-12-2014, 07:32 PM
omfg i thought i recognised her from the gif
thank you for placing her, lucas
-sees who else is gathered in the thread-
braden *air kisses*. mock.
-leaves-
Headie
07-12-2014, 08:16 PM
Fair enough on this, at least you've come out with a well reasoned post instead of being sarcastic towards the Fleur dislikers.
https://31.media.tumblr.com/6b717d862059382c29547b6fb0d6324c/tumblr_inline_nfb2v4V0i91qfnfiq.gif
..I'm just not a Sam Bailey fan, I feel bad that I don't like her voice that much but it just doesn't do anything for me...
Headie
07-12-2014, 08:39 PM
Fleur safely through to the final... Lauren in bottom 2.
Speaks for itself as to who the public prefer :creep:
Mystic Mock
07-12-2014, 09:33 PM
Fleur safely through to the final... Lauren in bottom 2.
Speaks for itself as to who the public prefer :creep:
The public apparently preferred Nicholas to Luke last year, and we both know who was better there.
Gstar
08-12-2014, 11:37 AM
One of the top 10 best performances in the history of the show
Ninastar
08-12-2014, 11:56 AM
i have to admit, this performance changed everything for me...
I was a fan, but i wanted andrea and lauren to do better than her
but then i watched this and realised that fleur deserved to be in the final 3 more than lauren
and look how that turned out
Brother Leon
08-12-2014, 12:22 PM
On second viewing..Andrea was better vocally by a fair bit, but it was still the best performance tbh.
kirklancaster
08-12-2014, 12:42 PM
If the X-Factor means 'Star Quality' then Fleur has the X-Factor. She looks like a seasoned Star. Performs like a seasoned Star and I wish I was her manager because she is going to be 'Mega' and around for a very, very long time.
From the start on here, I had the final three as Fleur, Andrea, and Ben - in that order, and I see nothing which will make me change that prediction.
Mystic Mock
08-12-2014, 07:12 PM
One of the top 10 best performances in the history of the show
No offense here, but have you watched many X Factor's?
Mystic Mock
08-12-2014, 07:16 PM
I'm actually interested to see how people would've reacted if Andrea, Ben, or SK had of done the performance exactly like Fleur did? Knowing certain members on here they would've pointed out the same flaws on their versions like I have on Fleur's.
Headie
08-12-2014, 07:44 PM
The public apparently preferred Nicholas to Luke last year, and we both know who was better there.
In your opinion
The publics opinion is that Nicholas was better, hence why he got more votes. That's how this show works hun.
Mystic Mock
08-12-2014, 07:47 PM
In your opinion
The publics opinion is that Nicholas was better, hence why he got more votes. That's how this show works hun.
You have to be some extreme Scottish Patriot to think that Nicholas was better than Luke in that series.
And btw if Fleur loses the final then you can't treat it as fact that she should win as that's how the show works hun.
Headie
08-12-2014, 08:06 PM
You have to be some extreme Scottish Patriot to think that Nicholas was better than Luke in that series.
And btw if Fleur loses the final then you can't treat it as fact that she should win as that's how the show works hun.
Or you might not be in to strainy, shouty voices? :shrug: Everyone has a different opinion and different taste.
Lmao what has that got to do with anything? When did I say it was fact Fleur should win? Whoever wins deserves to win because they got the most votes, simple. If you're still confused, google the XF voting format hun.
Benjamin
08-12-2014, 08:08 PM
I haven't watched this year but watched the Fleur performance and yes, it is overrated, it's a bit average.
Mystic Mock
08-12-2014, 09:57 PM
I haven't watched this year but watched the Fleur performance and yes, it is overrated, it's a bit average.
I think for you that you might like Lauren if you catch her on the right night, and OTY are hard to dislike I think.
And to Hayden why are you describing Fleur when we're on about only Scottish Patriots would be the only ones to prefer Nicholas to Luke?
Gstar
09-12-2014, 07:09 PM
No offense here, but have you watched many X Factor's?
Yes, all of them apart from rylans.
Headie
09-12-2014, 07:13 PM
I think for you that you might like Lauren if you catch her on the right night, and OTY are hard to dislike I think.
And to Hayden why are you describing Fleur when we're on about only Scottish Patriots would be the only ones to prefer Nicholas to Luke?
**** sake :joker:
What? YOU brought Fleur up, saying I shouldn't say it's "fact" that she deserves to win. A) When did I ever say that? B)Who says only Scottish people prefer Nicholas over Luke? Classic example of you stating your opinion as fact again...
My God...
GoldHeart
09-12-2014, 07:52 PM
**** sake :joker:
What? YOU brought Fleur up, saying I shouldn't say it's "fact" that she deserves to win. A) When did I ever say that? B)Who says only Scottish people prefer Nicholas over Luke? Classic example of you stating your opinion as fact again...
My God...
That's it PREACH it Haylle :thumbs::clap1:
Mystic Mock
09-12-2014, 08:05 PM
**** sake :joker:
What? YOU brought Fleur up, saying I shouldn't say it's "fact" that she deserves to win. A) When did I ever say that? B)Who says only Scottish people prefer Nicholas over Luke? Classic example of you stating your opinion as fact again...
My God...
I was only going by UKturtle's tastes in other years, it was only a prediction ffs.
And everyone knows that Nicholas was only beating Luke and Rough Copy in the end because of the Scottish Nationalist vote, it's not just me that thought it at the time but most people was thinking it at the time to explain how Nicholas was getting votes.
And to your original point if Fleur was still losing to Lauren in the vote after all the time slots favouring Fleur by a distance, song choices, stage productions, and being in Simon's category and everyone listening to his every word like Sheep, then I would be very embarrassed if I was Fleur as I think anyone on here could be where Fleur is at the minute if they was given all that help.
Glenn.
09-12-2014, 08:11 PM
Lauren wasn't good enough to win
Mystic Mock
09-12-2014, 08:29 PM
Lauren wasn't good enough to win
Well I beg to differ as she has the commercial element that people say about Fleur, on top of also being talented.
I mean how Ironic as well that there is reports of Fleur singing a Jennifer Lopez song as she's another one that relies off looks rather than actual talent or decent Music.
Glenn.
09-12-2014, 08:35 PM
Well I beg to differ as she has the commercial element that people say about Fleur, on top of also being talented.
I mean how Ironic as well that there is reports of Fleur singing a Jennifer Lopez song as she's another one that relies off looks rather than actual talent or decent Music.
If she was good enough she wouldn't have been voted off
Mystic Mock
09-12-2014, 08:47 PM
If she was good enough she wouldn't have been voted off
Loads of good acts get voted off the show before the final, that's a silly comment to make imo.
Vicky.
09-12-2014, 10:03 PM
She was fantastic. Kinda blows holes in the theory about 'professionals' miming as you cant dance and sing at the same time :whistle:
Headie
09-12-2014, 10:34 PM
And everyone knows that Nicholas was only beating Luke and Rough Copy in the end because of the Scottish Nationalist vote, it's not just me that thought it at the time but most people was thinking it at the time to explain how Nicholas was getting votes.
And to your original point if Fleur was still losing to Lauren in the vote after all the time slots favouring Fleur by a distance, song choices, stage productions, and being in Simon's category and everyone listening to his every word like Sheep, then I would be very embarrassed if I was Fleur as I think anyone on here could be where Fleur is at the minute if they was given all that help.
You are taking the piss now... aren't you? :laugh: "Everyone knows"... another example AGAIN of you stating your opinion as fact. Show me the voting figures that said 99% of Nicholas's vote was from Scotland? Show me the papers that clarify Luke Friend and Rough Copy are 'factually' better than Nicholas? I'm not a Nicholas fan, but you are once again stating your opinion as fact. Nicholas finished second, beating 10 other acts that year - therefore the voting public preferred him more than the others.
I really don't understand why you keep bringing hypothetical Fleur situations into these debates. Fleur has outlasted Lauren purely because she got more votes than her - therefore more of the voting public wanted to see her progress than they did Lauren. It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
Loads of good acts get voted off the show before the final, that's a silly comment to make imo.
Yeah, but at the end of the day the ones that the voting public prefer will stay in longer than the ones that they dislike or don't care for.
Mystic Mock
09-12-2014, 10:47 PM
Lauren came 4th, and could've been 3rd in the votes and that was with all the derailing that was thrown her way, I think the public showed that they cared for Lauren, would the public have shown Fleur the same courtesy if she was receiving Lauren's treatment?
And every poster that I saw on here, DS, Facebook, and Twitter that was supporting Nicholas last year was from Scotland.
GoldHeart
10-12-2014, 12:47 AM
these Fleur vs Lauren debates are old now :sleep:
we're just going round in circles
it was between Lauren & Andrea so why not be mad at the judges for not letting it go to deadlock??? instead of dragging Fleur into it who had nothing to do with it!! she got 1 of the highest votes along with Ben straight into the final !!!
Ben & Fleur have never been in the bottom 2 !! so by your logic you might aswell say would Ben survive or get same treatment as Lauren? :idc:
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 04:12 AM
Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.
And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.
Headie
10-12-2014, 07:24 AM
Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.
And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.
In your opinion.
Headie
10-12-2014, 07:27 AM
Lauren came 4th, and could've been 3rd in the votes and that was with all the derailing that was thrown her way, I think the public showed that they cared for Lauren, would the public have shown Fleur the same courtesy if she was receiving Lauren's treatment?
And every poster that I saw on here, DS, Facebook, and Twitter that was supporting Nicholas last year was from Scotland.
There you go again with irrelevant hypothetical questions...
And just because every poster that you saw on a forum was Scottish and supporting Nicholas does not mean that he finished in second place because he got the most votes :shrug: That's like saying every single poster you saw on here that supported Lauren was white, therefore all her fanbase must be white :conf:
Brother Leon
10-12-2014, 11:56 AM
Was walking to work and I saw a huge double decker bus that had her picture and "Vote Fleur" on. I was going to take a pic, but I didn't want to look like a fanboy lol
Edit: ffs. Thought this was her fan thread lol
GoldHeart
10-12-2014, 02:41 PM
Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.
And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.
for years people have been saying the whole show is rigged so why are you only accusing Simon of rigging things ?? just because both his acts are in the final is that why?? :joker:
here we go again with looks if Fleur & Ben are just favored for their looks and if the public are soo shallow then why did Chloe Jasmin get kicked out very very early ?? she was a pretty girl with class
and why didn't Jack last longer then?? seen as people fancied him
just accept that people like listening to Ben sing & perform and they like listening to Fleur sing & perform
Headie
10-12-2014, 03:45 PM
Was walking to work and I saw a huge double decker bus that had her picture and "Vote Fleur" on. I was going to take a pic, but I didn't want to look like a fanboy lol
Edit: ffs. Thought this was her fan thread lol
She will have been on that bus :love:
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 07:55 PM
In your opinion.
Is spamming the same post on every thread allowed on here or something? And I'm sorry but Lauren being on early nearly every week while Ben's been on last twice and given huge praise for subpar performances imo (are you happy now?) and Fleur being on late every week is not just an opinion but shock horror it's fact, your worst nightmare it seems.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 07:59 PM
There you go again with irrelevant hypothetical questions...
And just because every poster that you saw on a forum was Scottish and supporting Nicholas does not mean that he finished in second place because he got the most votes :shrug: That's like saying every single poster you saw on here that supported Lauren was white, therefore all her fanbase must be white :conf:
That's a silly comparison because people don't go branding themselves on the Internet as white, black, asian, or hispanic or whatever ethnicity that you can think of.
And with Lauren she seemed to get a really young male support base from what I can see.
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 08:07 PM
for years people have been saying the whole show is rigged so why are you only accusing Simon of rigging things ?? just because both his acts are in the final is that why?? :joker:
here we go again with looks if Fleur & Ben are just favored for their looks and if the public are soo shallow then why did Chloe Jasmin get kicked out very very early ?? she was a pretty girl with class
and why didn't Jack last longer then?? seen as people fancied him
just accept that people like listening to Ben sing & perform and they like listening to Fleur sing & perform
Chloe was not very pretty.
And Jack was clearly derailed, on early every week, horrific song choices that didn't suit him, and he seemed to have a massive falling-out with his mentor so they turned on him even more, if it wasn't for his looks he probably would've gone when he performed Straight Up.
GoldHeart
10-12-2014, 08:39 PM
Chloe was not very pretty.
And Jack was clearly derailed, on early every week, horrific song choices that didn't suit him, and he seemed to have a massive falling-out with his mentor so they turned on him even more, if it wasn't for his looks he probably would've gone when he performed Straight Up.
you cant say Chloe wasn't pretty i know its a matter of taste but she wasn't exactly ugly come on and she had class and the media was out to get her
they printed all kinds of bad things about her
Stephanie was another pretty girl and ended up getting death threats whats that all about when she was a sweet polite girl :shocked:
and Jack still got supported because of his "looks" but i always found him boring :sleep: his voice was nothing special and his performances were dull as hell
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 08:46 PM
Jack needed songs from artists like Coldplay, Radiohead, George Ezra, Imagine Dragons.
Steph imo was the prettiest girl of the series, but she was a really bad vocalist that Simon knew not to really push her forward.
GoldHeart
10-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Jack needed songs from artists like Coldplay, Radiohead, George Ezra, Imagine Dragons.
Steph imo was the prettiest girl of the series, but she was a really bad vocalist that Simon knew not to really push her forward.
i know people think Simon runs the whole show and yeah clearly he's the producer but he wasn't in charge of Steph!! she was mentored by Cheryl
so why not say Cheryl didn't push her? plus i thought Steph vocally was good
it doesn't make a difference what song Jack got he was dull dull dull :sleep:
and when he tried to be more exciting it came across weird and awkward (being bitten by a pretend vampire while he sings ) lol
Mystic Mock
10-12-2014, 08:58 PM
That Bleeding Love performance was a classic case of sabotage imo, he is no Leona Lewis.
And Cheryl didn't push Steph then, either way pushing her would've been bad because she was car crash TV every week to me away from her looks.
GoldHeart
11-12-2014, 04:12 PM
That Bleeding Love performance was a classic case of sabotage imo, he is no Leona Lewis.
And Cheryl didn't push Steph then, either way pushing her would've been bad because she was car crash TV every week to me away from her looks.
i laughed immediately when i first heard he got Leona's Bleeding Love
i knew it would be a disaster :laugh:
Niamh.
11-12-2014, 04:14 PM
Ben and Fleur are heavily favoured, and would've only survived off their looks at first, until Simon rigged things in their favour.
And Andrea was the natural winner in this series until he also got derailed.
Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock :hehe:
GoldHeart
11-12-2014, 04:26 PM
Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock :hehe:
surely you must understand now why im annoyed and confused ?
Mock contradicts soo much it makes no sense :bored:
ive even used examples of goodlooking people being voted out early meaning clearly looks dont always help people
Crimson Dynamo
11-12-2014, 04:43 PM
I hope she is not too depressed this week....
Mystic Mock
11-12-2014, 05:44 PM
Survived off their looks? Weren't you the one saying that women hated Lauren becuse they were jealous of her looks? which is it, you survive on your looks or you're hated because of your looks? you can't have it both ways Mock :hehe:
Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.
Headie
11-12-2014, 06:34 PM
Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.
She got 4th place out of 16. How on earth is that he worst category????
GoldHeart
11-12-2014, 07:20 PM
Lauren's in the worst category of the looks department to try and get votes which is the pretty young white girl category.
:conf: but she finished in fourth place though!! she's done remarkably well compared to other contestants like poor Paul who left way too early
Mystic Mock
11-12-2014, 11:09 PM
She got 4th place out of 16. How on earth is that he worst category????
They always go far them types of contestants because it's better to be attractive on TXF than not being attractive on the show, but if you look at it with Lauren, the housewives hated her guts on FB and DS, and the VT's and song choices only ever really made her appeal to a young fanbase and as mainly housewives vote on TXF it killed Lauren's chances of winning off.
Mystic Mock
11-12-2014, 11:12 PM
:conf: but she finished in fourth place though!! she's done remarkably well compared to other contestants like poor Paul who left way too early
Paul was another one that was treated horrifically for Simon's Overs.
Us Lauren, Jack, and Paul fans have every right to be mad at the fact that every single one of Simon's Overs (yes even Jay and Stevi) was being pushed way more than our faves.
GoldHeart
12-12-2014, 12:09 AM
Paul was another one that was treated horrifically for Simon's Overs.
Us Lauren, Jack, and Paul fans have every right to be mad at the fact that every single one of Simon's Overs (yes even Jay and Stevi) was being pushed way more than our faves.
i disagree you seem to think just because Simon runs the show that his acts get favored more which isnt true :nono:
plus Jay got slagged down actually! and was called the bully of the house and the public stopped voting for him so he lost support :shocked:
and nobody took stevi seriously even simon told him one week that his performance was terrible but he supported him still as his wild card but he knew stevi had no chance of winning it was just a laugh and they all kept saying they know he's enjoying himself
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