Kerry Smith (UKIP) exposed as racist and homophobic, and hateful towards the workers

[JoshBB]

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A leading UKIP candidate has issued an "unreserved apology" over comments he made in a leaked phone call.

A recording of Kerry Smith's remarks were obtained by the Mail On Sunday.

A UKIP spokesman said they were "the rantings of an angry man" who was on sedatives for an injury at the time.

Mr Smith is the party's candidate to contest the South Basildon and East Thurrock constituency at the next general election.

During the recorded conversation, Mr Smith talks about UKIP setting up a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) group.

He can be heard jokingly referring to it as BLT UKIP, and adds "what the old poofter groups call themselves".

He jokes about "shooting peasants" from the Essex town of Chigwell and supporting "a peasant's hunt through Chigwell village".

And he also made comments about the UKIP leadership which he has since retracted.

'Unreserved apology'
Last week Mr Smith was reinstated as UKIP's candidate for South Basildon and East Thurrock, a seat in which the party hopes to make a serious challenge.

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He had earlier been dropped by the party in favour of the former Conservative MP Neil Hamilton. But Mr Hamilton withdrew his candidature ahead of a selection meeting on Thursday.

A UKIP spokesman confirmed to the BBC that Mr Smith had apologised to the party's leader Nigel Farage.

He described the comments as "the ranting of an angry man" and added that at the time they were made, Mr Smith was on sedatives for an injury.

In a statement made by a UKIP spokesman on his behalf, Mr Smith said: "I wish to issue a wholehearted and unreserved apology to those who I have offended within the party and anyone else.

"With regards to the leadership and management of the party I was completely wrong and my comments were fuelled by frustrations."

Source - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30467897

Maybe doctors should advise patients that medication can lead to outbursts of racism and homophobia. :joker:

It's actually quite worrying though as he is the candidate for my constituency, and he's expected to win..

[Scarlett.]

God ****ing help this country if UKIP gets any form of power at the General Election, they're like the Daily Mail in the flesh.

[JoshBB]

God ****ing help this country if UKIP gets any form of power at the General Election, they're like the Daily Mail in the flesh.

So true.

[Samm]

Fat ugly ****

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would like to know why a personal call was recorded, by whom and i take it people do realise that political candidates are not on call 24 hours a day.

This stinks of a dirty tricks campaign by a very frightened labour or conservatives

If I recorded your personal phone calls how would you stand up?

no, I thought not

smh at this rubbish

[Loukas]

A UKIP member racist and homophobic!?! Never!

they are all a bunch of pricks anyway

[T*]

You're all as bad as each other.
I literally hate politics- Bias, just general stupid **** goes on.
That guy is a prick- The things he said were vile- But on the other hand, Why were they snooping through his phone calls? Surely that is a breach of privacy whatever his beliefs may be, and i'm not endorsing his actions in any way; but I think they shouldn't be allowed to record or tap into any private phone calls, it doesn't sit right with me. Have you all not learnt from the NOTW incident a few years ago?

[Kizzy]

Maybe doctors should advise patients that medication can lead to outbursts of racism and homophobia. :joker:

It's actually quite worrying though as he is the candidate for my constituency, and he's expected to win..

:joker::joker:

I shouldn't laugh..but it it's an excuse you'd find in a 'little Britain' sketch or something :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're all as bad as each other.
I literally hate politics- Bias, just general stupid **** goes on.
That guy is a prick- The things he said were vile- But on the other hand, Why were they snooping through his phone calls? Surely that is a breach of privacy whatever his beliefs may be, and i'm not endorsing his actions in any way; but I think they shouldn't be allowed to record or tap into any private phone calls, it doesn't sit right with me. Have you all not learnt from the NOTW incident a few years ago?

The Mail is an establishment organ and the journos will be under instruction to get at ukip just like they did for the snp when they were running 5 negative articles per day in the 2 weeks running up to the referendum. expect the same against ukip.

[T*]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/02/05/uk-labour-councillor-suspended-following-homophobic-slur-investigation/
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/farooq-ahmed-quits-labour-homophobic-7275726
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339471/Labour-candidate-David-Bradley-bombarded-gay-colleague-Ed-Bramall-homophobic-texts-losing-election.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27272907
http://www.conservativehome.com/localgovernment/2012/07/kingston-lib-dems-accused-of-running-homophobic-campaign.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/10310497/Lib-Dems-warned-over-homophobic-anti-gay-marriage-vote.html

Stop focusing your hate at one party- Your little perfect parties aren't as innocent as they seem.

[Cherie]

God ****ing help this country if UKIP gets any form of power at the General Election, they're like the Daily Mail in the flesh.

.

I think we have to brace ourselves for them forming some kind of coalition though

[T*]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577920/Labour-MP-racist-photo-Backbencher-criticised-posing-alongside-son-blacked-fancy-dress-party.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tories-racist-says-black-former-2125198
http://tab.co.uk/2014/08/04/tory-society-thrown-into-disarray-amid-claims-of-anti-semitism/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/racist-tories-still-trapped-1980s-3177489
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-accused-of-underhand-racism-and-having-neanderthal-views-on-diversity-by-riots-heroine-pauline-pearce-9674092.html

No-one blinks twice at this though. As I said- You're all as bad as each other.

[JoshBB]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577920/Labour-MP-racist-photo-Backbencher-criticised-posing-alongside-son-blacked-fancy-dress-party.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tories-racist-says-black-former-2125198
http://tab.co.uk/2014/08/04/tory-society-thrown-into-disarray-amid-claims-of-anti-semitism/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/racist-tories-still-trapped-1980s-3177489
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lib-dems-accused-of-underhand-racism-and-having-neanderthal-views-on-diversity-by-riots-heroine-pauline-pearce-9674092.html

No-one blinks twice at this though. As I said- You're all as bad as each other.

Why are you digging up old news stories? The one on Kerry Smith is recent (today actually), which is why we are discussing it.

And I do have to agree with a few of you actually - his phone calls should not be listened to in such a way and I in no way support that. However it is no excuse to hide his bigotry behind that, and it is a positive thing that we now know who we are dealing with.

[Liam-]

He shouldn't have said what he said, however there is no crime against his opinions on certain people.

His private phone calls should never have been recorded and should never have made it out into the public, that is what's wrong with this whole scenario.

[T*]

He shouldn't have said what he said, however there is no crime against his opinions on certain people.

His private phone calls should never have been recorded and should never have made it out into the public, that is what's wrong with this whole scenario.

Exactly.

[JoshBB]

He shouldn't have said what he said, however there is no crime against his opinions on certain people.

His private phone calls should never have been recorded and should never have made it out into the public, that is what's wrong with this whole scenario.

It's not the point that he hasn't committed a crime against anyone, but if he were voted in as an MP he could try to pass all kinds of racist/homophobic bills.

[JoshBB]

Exactly.

Why is everyone trying to excuse what he's said? It's despicable!

[Liam-]

It's not the point that he hasn't committed a crime against anyone, but if he were voted in as an MP he could try to pass all kinds of racist/homophobic bills.

I'm pretty sure anyone who votes for UKIP in the first place will know what they're voting for, everyone knows what UKIP is about, i don't see why this is a big shock or a sudden revelation about what these people believe in.

[T*]

Why is everyone trying to excuse what he's said? It's despicable!

We're not- But these may have been private views that wouldn't of influenced anything thing law wise- we'll never know. He shouldn't of had his phone calls recorded, End of.

[JoshBB]

We're not- But these may have been private views that wouldn't of influenced anything thing law wise- we'll never know. He shouldn't of had his phone calls recorded, End of.

Private views aren't private when you are an MP. Also, not end of. You do not dictate when a debate is over, and in this case it clearly isn't.

Discuss onwards people :)

[T*]

Private views aren't private when you are an MP. Also, not end of. You do not dictate when a debate is over, and in this case it clearly isn't.

Discuss onwards people :)

I wasn't dictating when a debate was over, dear god :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm pretty sure anyone who votes for UKIP in the first place will know what they're voting for, everyone knows what UKIP is about, i don't see why this is a big shock or a sudden revelation about what these people believe in.

Ukip is the party that finally got the UK talking about immigration and you should be grateful :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Private views aren't private when you are an MP. Also, not end of. You do not dictate when a debate is over, and in this case it clearly isn't.

Discuss onwards people :)

"Private views aren't private when you are an MP."

What on earth are you on about. This isnt a tv cop show.

[JoshBB]

"Private views aren't private when you are an MP."

What on earth are you on about. This isnt a tv cop show.

No, views (obviously) affect how you vote on new laws. Not private at all.

I wasn't dictating when a debate was over, dear god :facepalm:

"end of" implies that you're saying your viewpoint is the correct one and that we don't require further discussion.

[T*]

When I said end of, I meant that the actions of the newspaper/website in which they hacked or tapped into a private phone call shouldn't be excused. You're taking things too ****ing literally :rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

The more that can be done to discredit this party for bigoted essex boys the better imo.

[arista]

He was on Meds
so its claimed.

Its best to kick him out
but he gets another chance

[Tom4784]

Hopefully it'll be enough to put paid to his campaign. It'll be a dark day if UKIP get any real power.

[JoshBB]

He was on Meds
so its claimed.

Its best to kick him out
but he gets another chance

Surely if he was angry due to meds though, he would be letting out his true views.. it wouldn't turn him into a bigot.

[arista]

Surely if he was angry due to meds though, he would be letting out his true views.. it wouldn't turn him into a bigot.


Yes he is a Mess
I do not think he can win that area.

Thats why I did not waste time
with a thread on him

Good you did one

[arista]

Hopefully it'll be enough to put paid to his campaign. It'll be a dark day if UKIP get any real power.


Real Power is 2 MPs now, Dezzy
thanks to them jumping from conservatives

[Samm]

I don't give a **** about his convo being exposed, he deserves it after what he said

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't give a **** about his convo being exposed, he deserves it after what he said

what he says in private is none of your business i am afraid

:nono:

[Vicky.]

A UKIP member racist and homophobic!?! Never!



:joker: this

[Cal.]

UKIP is a load of ****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

UKIP is a load of ****.

as opposed to who?

:joker:

labour, the tories, the lib dems?

the ...greens :hehe:

[JoshBB]

as opposed to who?

:joker:

labour, the tories, the lib dems?

the ...greens :hehe:

idk why the greens are more embarrasing than tory/lib tbh

[GiRTh]

what he says in private is none of your business i am afraid

:nono:
UK Privacy laws are developing all the time so at this current time he has no right to privacy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

UK Privacy laws are developing all the time so at this current time he has no right to privacy.

I have no idea what you mean

[GiRTh]

I have no idea what you mean
UK Privacy laws dont cover this area so he has no right to privacy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

UK Privacy laws dont cover this area so he has no right to privacy.


His private calls to his mates are of no concern or interest to anyone but himself, same as you or me. What people say in private is private.

I am quite sure your calls to your mates would reveal a new side to you that you probably would not want people on tibb to hear....

[GiRTh]

His private calls to his mates are of no concern or interest to anyone but himself, same as you or me. What people say in private is private.

I am quite sure your calls to your mates would reveal a new side to you that you probably would not want people on tibb to hear....Not true. In this country there is no inherent right to privacy. In France, however, there is that right but in this country there is effectively no such thing as a private phone call.

In France the paper would have had to sought his consent to publish the details of his phone call but in this country no such right exists.

He needs to be a bit more careful in what he says on the phone cuz if he says anymore biased comments like this it definitely will be run in the papers and he will have no legal comeback.

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/government/constitutional_law/fundamental_rights/500284.html

[JoshBB]

His private calls to his mates are of no concern or interest to anyone but himself, same as you or me. What people say in private is private.

I am quite sure your calls to your mates would reveal a new side to you that you probably would not want people on tibb to hear....

Why, have something to hide? :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why, have something to hide? :smug:


Yes, I would hate for people on here to know I was actually a lovely person

[joeysteele]

God ****ing help this country if UKIP gets any form of power at the General Election, they're like the Daily Mail in the flesh.

That is a very worrying but actually very accurate description of UKIP in my view too.
Well put.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That is a very worrying but actually very accurate description of UKIP in my view too.
Well put.

well apart from the fact the DM are very much against UKIP

so

not really

[Livia]

idk why the greens are more embarrasing than tory/lib tbh

Oh there are so many reasons. For instance... You'd think recycling would be high on their agenda. But 'Green' Brighton comes 302 in 326 councils. You complained that an £80 fine for spitting was "a bit high". In Brighton you can be fined up to £50,000 for putting plastic into a paper recycling bin. The Greens are the UKIP of the Left.

[Gstar]

I don't get how these obese, fugly disgraces think that they're better than everyone else when in reality they will never ever be hit on at a club and no amount of money in the world can change that unless he gets a gastric band but he looks like he already has heart problems so he'll have to do without and get fatter and fatter and eventually explode

[Jake.]

I don't get how these obese, fugly disgraces think that they're better than everyone else when in reality they will never ever be hit on at a club and no amount of money in the world can change that unless he gets a gastric band but he looks like he already has heart problems so he'll have to do without and get fatter and fatter and eventually explode

:joker:

[Samm]

I don't get how these obese, fugly disgraces think that they're better than everyone else when in reality they will never ever be hit on at a club and no amount of money in the world can change that unless he gets a gastric band but he looks like he already has heart problems so he'll have to do without and get fatter and fatter and eventually explode

lmao

[T*]

I don't get how these obese, fugly disgraces think that they're better than everyone else when in reality they will never ever be hit on at a club and no amount of money in the world can change that unless he gets a gastric band but he looks like he already has heart problems so he'll have to do without and get fatter and fatter and eventually explode

:laugh2:

[arista]

He has Resigned

I knew he was doomed

[billy123]

He has Resigned

I knew he was doomedThey all are arista they really are.
If BNP lite sorry UKIP has at least served any purpose then it has been to worm out the closet racists,homophobes and sexists that lurk amongst us before they vanish back into the pit they spawned from at least we can thank them for that.
:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[GiRTh]

Another one bites the dust.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They all are arista they really are.
If BNP lite sorry UKIP has at least served any purpose then it has been to worm out the closet racists,homophobes and sexists that lurk amongst us before they vanish back into the pit they spawned from at least we can thank them for that.
:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

Every party has eejits. :rolleyes:

labour has one in charge

But I still would love to know how a private call ended up with the Daily Mail?

People seem quite happy about this yet the same people were creating merry hell during the phone hacking scandal

[MTVN]

I would guess that whoever was on the other end of the phone call wasn't as trustworthy as Smith thought he was

[Crimson Dynamo]

I would guess that whoever was on the other end of the phone call wasn't as trustworthy as Smith thought he was

hmmm perhaps

but it was a private phone call and frankly it should have stayed that way.

Not sure if poofters is homophobia as we have 4 ***** and a piano dont we?


in fact the last time i heard anyone say poofters was in an episode of It aint Half Hot Mum

:umm2:

[billy123]

Every party has eejits. :rolleyes:

labour has one in charge

But I still would love to know how a private call ended up with the Daily Mail?

People seem quite happy about this yet the same people were creating merry hell during the phone hacking scandal
I must have missed the part where i said anything about my thoughts on what i think about the morons call ending up in the public domain. :joker:
Given the current climate on that sort of thing it seems more likely that it was the person that he made the call to that is responsible for leaking it and providing them with the racists idiotic comments but i dont know :shrug: you are asking the wrong person. I was simply replying to aristas doomed comment.

[joeysteele]

As this party comes under more and even more scrutiny the really vile members of it will not be able to hold their tongues and I am sure he won't be the last to be found out as to their real thinking and what they likely stand for.

He has quit being a candidate and was right to do so, good riddance to him and now can we have the next one showing their real selves please.

[GiRTh]

As this party comes under more and even more scrutiny the really vile members of it will not be able to hold their tongues and I am sure he won't be the last to be found out as to rtheir real thinking and what they liekly stand for.

He has quit being a candidate and was right to do so, good riddance to him and now can we have the next one showing their real selves please.:clap1:

[Nedusa]

God ****ing help this country if UKIP gets any form of power at the General Election, they're like the Daily Mail in the flesh.

I agree , let's keep the status quo and let our country go to the fcuking dogs, overrun with rampant immigration, c'mon everyone from everywhere , thieves, gangsters, murdurers.... Pretty much anyone.

Come and live in this tiny overcrowded island, bring your extended family and their families, c'mon we will even pay you benefits and give you housing benefit even though huge numbers of people already here can't find anywhere to live.

Madness , bloody madness

Thank God for UKIP maybe the other parties will finally take notice and things might start to change....

[Northern Monkey]

There are still a minority of these old school racists left over in politics today,Atleast his views are in the minority now as times change and the new breed of politicians take over the reigns.This stuff thankfully is dying out.

[Creggle]

I agree , let's keep the status quo and let our country go to the fcuking dogs, overrun with rampant immigration, c'mon everyone from everywhere , thieves, gangsters, murdurers.... Pretty much anyone.

Come and live in this tiny overcrowded island, bring your extended family and their families, c'mon we will even pay you benefits and give you housing benefit even though huge numbers of people already here can't find anywhere to live.

Madness , bloody madness

Thank God for UKIP maybe the other parties will finally take notice and things might start to change....

:worship:

[Niall]

I agree , let's keep the status quo and let our country go to the fcuking dogs, overrun with rampant immigration, c'mon everyone from everywhere , thieves, gangsters, murdurers.... Pretty much anyone.

Come and live in this tiny overcrowded island, bring your extended family and their families, c'mon we will even pay you benefits and give you housing benefit even though huge numbers of people already here can't find anywhere to live.

Madness , bloody madness

Thank God for UKIP maybe the other parties will finally take notice and things might start to change....

If you seriously believe that immigration is the source of this country's problems then you're quite frankly an idiot.

Corporate tax fraud, deragulated banking, and cutbacks on public services are what's draining this country. The problems lie with precisely the people like UKIP and the Tories - the rich, arrogant ****s whose greed blinds them to the point where they care only for themselves and power and nothing else.

Britain is a nation with a history of immigration from around the world. Influences and ideas from other cultures and peoples are what keeps this island going. If you buy into the sensationalist **** cooked up by UKIP, the Mail and the rest of those petulant publications then you're not seeing what's really going on. That xenophobic crap is merely a scapegoat to divert attention from a bigger issue, which is to say, that neoliberal Capitalism - the kind of Capitalism UKIP holds so dearly - is not only failing, but leaving the entire populous disenfranchised and angry with their government.

But whatever. Go ahead and vote for UKIP if you want to contribute to flushing the tattered remains of this nation down the toilet.

[GiRTh]

I agree , let's keep the status quo and let our country go to the fcuking dogs, overrun with rampant immigration, c'mon everyone from everywhere , thieves, gangsters, murdurers.... Pretty much anyone.

Come and live in this tiny overcrowded island, bring your extended family and their families, c'mon we will even pay you benefits and give you housing benefit even though huge numbers of people already here can't find anywhere to live.

Madness , bloody madness

Thank God for UKIP maybe the other parties will finally take notice and things might start to change....They said the same fifty years ago when my parents were invited to come here.

When you say 'rampant immigrant' what do you men by that? You are of course aware that there are many immigrants contributing a great deal to this country The most popular dish is an Indian dish and ten of the top twelve richest people in this country according to the Sunday times rich list were not born in this country and are not British citizens. Immigrants for want of a better word. Are these the 'rampant immigrants' you talk about?

[Kizzy]

I agree , let's keep the status quo and let our country go to the fcuking dogs, overrun with rampant immigration, c'mon everyone from everywhere , thieves, gangsters, murdurers.... Pretty much anyone.

Come and live in this tiny overcrowded island, bring your extended family and their families, c'mon we will even pay you benefits and give you housing benefit even though huge numbers of people already here can't find anywhere to live.

Madness , bloody madness

Thank God for UKIP maybe the other parties will finally take notice and things might start to change....

We are not a tiny overcrowded island.... we have plenty of space but for some reason are concentrated in overpopulated conurbations that give that impression.

[kirklancaster]

hmmm perhaps

but it was a private phone call and frankly it should have stayed that way.

Not sure if poofters is homophobia as we have 4 ***** and a piano dont we?


in fact the last time i heard anyone say poofters was in an episode of It aint Half Hot Mum

:umm2:

:joker: The great Windsor Davies.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: The great Windsor Davies.

Luvlee boy:joker: