Define celebrity

[sampvt]

Every year the same old crap jumps up....she isn't a cleb, he isn't that well known, she shouldn't be considered and I have never heard of her or him. There are even sayings like.....how can anyone call her a celeb and does doing this or being that, guarantee her or him celeb status.

One can even see the odd.....WTF, she is not a celeb, shes a prozzie and he shouldn't be considered on the strength of ??????? etc etc.

We now have a roaring discussion on whether or not someones double should be considered and whether or not a skanky slapper who is nothing better than a pariah should be given air time.

It used to be people that we in the limelight, the tv or radio or on the big creen, could be considered as celebs, but nowadays with the media exposure we see on both the tv and internet, there are loads of so called celebs creeping in that some of us have never heard of so my question is....

What constitutes a celebrity.

[mrmattybeck1]

As long as they are entertaining I'm not really bothered

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think you must

1. have a discernible talent that entertains
2. Be on tv or radio for at least 1 year

So of you are on Eastenders you do not qualify, or BB or x factor (unless you have had hits like say Olly)

[Black Dagger]

Celebrity status is far easier to obtain in 2014. If you are recognisable and people know you, then you're famous, simple as really.

And not LT attacking Eastenders when they have some of the best actors in the country on the show.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Celebrity status is far easier to obtain in 2014. If you are recognisable and people know you, then you're famous, simple as really.

And not LT attacking Eastenders when they have some of the best actors in the country on the show.


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[Creggle]

A celebrity must be recognisable and have a career, it's as simple as that. So reality stars are not celebrities, media *****s are not celebrities and so on.

[Maxxie.]

A known person is a celebrity, even josie cunningham. I just argue that she doesn't deserve to be one.

[Will.]

A celebrity for me is Someone who is famous but in the headlines and magazines, and has lots of story's about them, attends events, etc. Famous for me is someone who people know but who are never really in the headlines and stay quiet.

A famous person - usain Bolt

Celebrity - Miley Cyrus

As an example

[Marsh.]

Being on TV might make you "famous" but doesn't make you a "celebrated personality" which is what a real celebrity is.

When it comes to CBB I'm not too fussy since it's hardly ever actual celebrities anyway. Mildly Famous Big Brother doesn't have the same ring to it.

[Niamh.]

Being on TV might make you "famous" but doesn't make you a "celebrated personality" which is what a real celebrity is.

When it comes to CBB I'm not too fussy since it's hardly ever actual celebrities anyway. Mildly Famous Big Brother doesn't have the same ring to it.

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

A celebrity for me is Someone who is famous but in the headlines and magazines, and has lots of story's about them, attends events, etc. Famous for me is someone who people know but who are never really in the headlines and stay quiet.

A famous person - usain Bolt

Celebrity - Miley Cyrus

As an example


So what would you say

Konnie Huq
Ian Hislop
Leon from Gogglebox
Some Eastenders actress
Olly Murs
Alan Sugar

are?

[Will.]

So what would you say

Konnie Huq
Ian Hislop
Leon from Gogglebox
Some Eastenders actress
Olly Murs
Alan Sugar

are?

Leon - sort of famous
Eastenders Actress - depends which actress
Olly Murs - celebrity
Alan Sugar - famous
What I was trying to say is there is a difference between famous and celebrity, if that makes any sense.

[aj2463]

They hit the all time low last series getting someone from Gogglebox imo

[kirklancaster]

They hit the all time low last series getting someone from Gogglebox imo

Well said - but don't forget about the Benefits Street beached whale.

[Crimson Dynamo]

They hit the all time low last series getting someone from Gogglebox imo


Are you serious?

Melinda Messenger
Bez
Maggot
Faria Alam
Danielle Lloyd
Donny Tourette
Alex Reid
Katia Ivanova
Pamela Bach Hasselhoff
Natasha Giggs


need i go on?

[Black Dagger]

Melinda Messenger is a goddess. Stop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Melinda Messenger is a goddess. Stop.

she is meaningless

[Black Dagger]

Well she is now, she hasn't been on telly properly since Fort Boyard :fist:

[Heaven = Winner]

Are you serious?

Melinda Messenger

You should be ashamed.

http://i.imgur.com/pJY0ua5.gif

[GiRTh]

Melinda Messenger is a goddess. Stop.x2

[Marsh.]

To be fair, Melinda Messenger was a celeb when she went in the house 12 years ago. Nowadays, not so much.

[kirklancaster]

To be fair, Melinda Messenger was a celeb when she went in the house 12 years ago. Nowadays, not so much.

4 series of 'Cowboy Builder' with Dom Littlewood don't forget Marsh.

[kirklancaster]

Melinda Messenger is a goddess. Stop.

I agree. She is still as lovely now as she always was. Years ago, my mates thought I was soft in the head because I thought her face and smile was her best features. :hehe:

[Jay.]

me

[Samm]

josie cunningham

[jennyjuniper]

I know all you young ones are going to sigh at my next line, BUT when I was young Stars really were stars. Not just the Hollywood lot either. We had plenty of our own stars, but they were more private then. This was in the days when the media respected peoples privacy, so the stars of that age had a mystery about them which is sadly lacking nowadays. To me a celebrity is someone who is a household name (for all the right reasons) for achievement in whatever field they are known in. Definately NOT for fleecing taxpayers or sleeping with other peoples partners and then telling all.

[kirklancaster]

I know all you young ones are going to sigh at my next line, BUT when I was young Stars really were stars. Not just the Hollywood lot either. We had plenty of our own stars, but they were more private then. This was in the days when the media respected peoples privacy, so the stars of that age had a mystery about them which is sadly lacking nowadays. To me a celebrity is someone who is a household name (for all the right reasons) for achievement in whatever field they are known in. Definately NOT for fleecing taxpayers or sleeping with other peoples partners and then telling all.

Welcome Jenny - with wisdom like yours, you are going to be a very welcome addition to this forum.

[jennyjuniper]

Thankyou for the kind words:blush: I think I look forward to exchanging chat with all you lovely people more than actually watching the show!!

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I know all you young ones are going to sigh at my next line, BUT when I was young Stars really were stars. Not just the Hollywood lot either. We had plenty of our own stars, but they were more private then. This was in the days when the media respected peoples privacy, so the stars of that age had a mystery about them which is sadly lacking nowadays. To me a celebrity is someone who is a household name (for all the right reasons) for achievement in whatever field they are known in. Definately NOT for fleecing taxpayers or sleeping with other peoples partners and then telling all.

What era are you talking about because since the 30's the tabloids have been about and in the 50's celebs houses and phonelines were bugged by the paps.

People were also spoon fed fake stories from whoever these stars were contracted to who would set up photo shoots to make them look like they were naturally papped and the studios would also send their stars out on dates and tip off the press to gain publicity for them.

Honestly I cant think of any era since 50's + where the gossip rags did not exist.

[Maxxie.]

Are you serious?

Melinda Messenger
Bez
Maggot
Faria Alam
Danielle Lloyd
Donny Tourette
Alex Reid
Katia Ivanova
Pamela Bach Hasselhoff
Natasha Giggs


need i go on?

Donny was amazing tbf, bit like how frenchy was not famous but a fantastic housemate. People only forget about donny cuz he left after 2 days. Oh & how are Bez & Alex Reid all time lows?

[waterhog]

Every year the same old crap jumps up....she isn't a cleb, he isn't that well known, she shouldn't be considered and I have never heard of her or him. There are even sayings like.....how can anyone call her a celeb and does doing this or being that, guarantee her or him celeb status.

One can even see the odd.....WTF, she is not a celeb, shes a prozzie and he shouldn't be considered on the strength of ??????? etc etc.

We now have a roaring discussion on whether or not someones double should be considered and whether or not a skanky slapper who is nothing better than a pariah should be given air time.

It used to be people that we in the limelight, the tv or radio or on the big creen, could be considered as celebs, but nowadays with the media exposure we see on both the tv and internet, there are loads of so called celebs creeping in that some of us have never heard of so my question is....

What constitutes a celebrity.

a true definition of celeb in my eyes is someone that has gained a following from something they are involved with and lots are aware of this involvement a example of this would be a pop star - they sing songs and lots are aware of them and have a fan base.

now a days to do something that gets you in the media is as little as sending a twit - and you have millions if not billions of twits following this twit and supporting this twit as if they are a god or religion.

i think ch5 should thin very carefully of who they put in there - yes eye candy is nice but if the person has no brain power and all the effort is just to look pretty it will be a very boring series.

i like the strong minded celebrity that have a game plan - the game plan can be as simple as go in and be as silly as possible - i will even pay them myself as they are treating BB for what it is - a game. the object in to win - by any means.

[warrenhill]

A celebrity is someone that has a successful career for a decent number of years...

And one that 75% of people between 17 and 50 would be able to name from a picture.


Or as Wiki says.

"Celebrity refers to popular fame and public attention in the media, usually applied to a person, or group of people (celebrity couple, family etc.), or occasionally, to animals or fictional entities. Celebrity status is often associated with wealth (commonly referred to as fame and fortune) and fame can often provide opportunities to make money.
Successful careers in sports and entertainment are commonly associated with celebrity status.[1][2] People may also become celebrities due to media attention for their lifestyle, wealth, or actions, or for their connection to a famous person."

[sassysocks]

[QUOTE=sampvt;7431456]Every year the same old crap jumps up....she isn't a cleb, he isn't that well known, she shouldn't be considered and I have never heard of her or him. There are even sayings like.....how can anyone call her a celeb and does doing this or being that, guarantee her or him celeb status.

One can even see the odd.....WTF, she is not a celeb, shes a prozzie and he shouldn't be considered on the strength of ??????? etc etc.

We now have a roaring discussion on whether or not someones double should be considered and whether or not a skanky slapper who is nothing better than a pariah should be given air time.

It used to be people that we in the limelight, the tv or radio or on the big creen, could be considered as celebs, but nowadays with the media exposure we see on both the tv and internet, there are loads of so called celebs creeping in that some of us have never heard of so my question is....

What constitutes a celebrity.[/QUO

The word means little these days. It certainly doesn't have the same status it used to have.

Nowadays any half wit can become a so-called celebrity - in fact the more they resemble a half wit the more likely other halfwits will vote for them to be given this rather dubious accolade.

[MrWong]

Im not fussed how big/famous a celeb a housemate is just as long as they are entertaining.

Jackie Stallone was someones mum and read arses for a living and was one of the best housemates ever.

Please no more sportsmen. Audley Harrison, Gareth Thomas, Ashley Mckenzie, Razor, Evander Holyfield, Dennis Rodman, Vinnie Jones.... All siht housemates.

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=sampvt;7431456]Every year the same old crap jumps up....she isn't a cleb, he isn't that well known, she shouldn't be considered and I have never heard of her or him. There are even sayings like.....how can anyone call her a celeb and does doing this or being that, guarantee her or him celeb status.

One can even see the odd.....WTF, she is not a celeb, shes a prozzie and he shouldn't be considered on the strength of ??????? etc etc.

We now have a roaring discussion on whether or not someones double should be considered and whether or not a skanky slapper who is nothing better than a pariah should be given air time.

It used to be people that we in the limelight, the tv or radio or on the big creen, could be considered as celebs, but nowadays with the media exposure we see on both the tv and internet, there are loads of so called celebs creeping in that some of us have never heard of so my question is....

What constitutes a celebrity.[/QUO

The word means little these days. It certainly doesn't have the same status it used to have.

Nowadays any half wit can become a so-called celebrity - in fact the more they resemble a half wit the more likely other halfwits will vote for them to be given this rather dubious accolade.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Brilliant post Sassy, and the emboldened part is true but also amusing. :joker:

[jennyjuniper]

I didn't claim that the gossip rags didn't exist, rather that either they were more restrained then, or the public wasn't as 'into' the media as they seem to be today.
For example, I was born in 1950 and we didn't have a tv until I was about 11. So the only 'access' I had to the actors was on the big screen.
On the plus side. I grew up with a love for the wriotten word and I've been in love with books ever since.

[LukeB]

Someone with Talent and a good personality really :laugh:


They're some people who should not be classed as a celeb like be linking them to CBB or other shows like that. Because teenagers love to be famous these days and some getting famous for the wrong reasons is basically giving out the wrong message.

For example
White Dee - I don't judge anyone for being on benefits because life is tough, but she shouldn't been in the limelight in the first place. She isn't a celebrity in my eyes. She just got lucky

Josie - The reason she is known is another bad example.