Briton of the year....Farage?!

[Kizzy]

What the heck is this?....

Is this a joke? What has he done except spout hitleresque, it's all a little unnerving.

'Nigel Farage has been named “Briton of the year” by The Times, which hailed his “game-changing” politics.

The newspaper chronicled the Ukip leader’s journey from the 2010 general election, when he quite literally crashed to the earth in a light aeroplane that became entangled with its trailing party banner.

To add insult to injury as he recovered in hospital on results day, he failed to unseat former Commons Speaker John Bercow. But since then his fortunes have appeared to take a dramatic turn for the better.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-named-briton-of-the-year-by-the-times-9946110.html

He doesn't warrant or deserve this title, it's all very strange.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2905995.1366730531!/image/202228803.jpg_gen/derivatives/articleImgDeriv_628px/202228803.jpg



:clap1:


An excellent choice and well deserved

[Kizzy]

Give me one good reason why...just one.

[arista]

Give me one good reason why...just one.


He is Liked


of course - not by you

[Ninastar]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10891439_10153338401961996_8136588469220510386_n.j pg?oh=290d316dbcc92bcb6e9fd2be4dc287c4&oe=5530417E&__gda__=1430201089_1fea08f1a6aabd177c3a487579cd68c 8

saw this on FB and don't know if its true whether he's actually 'racist' or not, but I agree with basis of it

[Vicky.]

Its an insult to the people he was nominated with really :umm2:

I saw this on FB last night and assumed it was a joke

[Crimson Dynamo]

The man has shaken UK politics out of the doldrums and is real. Great choice by the Times

[Kizzy]

Define 'shaken things up'...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Define 'shaken things up'...

He has taken UKip to a credible political party that will be a real alternative to the moribund lib/lab/con choice.

He has shown that real people can do politics

:cheer2:

[Josy]

Even if you completely disagree with his parties views you cant disagree that he has had a big influence on politics this year.

The constant shouts of outrage at every little thing that's publicised about him is actually laughable.

[Kizzy]

He has taken UKip to a credible political party that will be a real alternative to the moribund lib/lab/con choice.

He has shown that real people can do politics

:cheer2:

Does it warrant Briton of the year though...

He doesn't 'do' politics. politics do him, do you think that he would have the exposure he has if he wasn't part of the establishment?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does it warrant Briton of the year though...

He doesn't 'do' politics. politics do him, do you think that he would have the exposure he has if he wasn't part of the establishment?

A worthy winner of the Times category yes

[Kizzy]

Even if you completely disagree with his parties views you cant disagree that he has had a big influence on politics this year.

The constant shouts of outrage at every little thing that's publicised about him is actually laughable.

Shouts by whom.. if what he and the representatives of is party said weren't so offensive there would be nothing to be outraged at would there?

He has influence, is it enough to give Briton of the year for that's the question.

[Kizzy]

A worthy winner of the Times category yes

Who owns the Times?

[joeysteele]

Briton of the year, surely this is only because he is rarely off the TV screens or in other media.
I doubt it means 'good' Briton of the year really, just the one in the spotlight more.

Who votes in these things anyway.

[Vicky.]

Even if you completely disagree with his parties views you cant disagree that he has had a big influence on politics this year.

The constant shouts of outrage at every little thing that's publicised about him is actually laughable.

I'm not disputing his effect. I have rather enjoyed watching his 'rise to power' tbh, and watching every other party cowering and crapping themselves. Hell he even united Milliband and Cameron :D

However, when you see the other potentials...it seems a bit of a pisstake that Farage won :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not disputing his effect. I have rather enjoyed watching his 'rise to power' tbh, and watching every other party cowering and crapping themselves. Hell he even united Milliband and Cameron :D

However, when you see the other 3 nominated...it seems a bit of a pisstake that Farage won :joker:

I dont think anyone was nominated that is just a typical mawkish facebook teenagers post above and has nowt to do with the Times (Nina saw it on facebook and posted it)

[Kizzy]

I dont think anyone was nominated that is just a typical mawkish facebook teenagers post above and has nowt to do with the Times (Nina saw it on facebook and posted it)

It's from the huffington post too, are they also 'mawkish'?

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's from the huffington post too, are they also 'mawkish'?

Yes it would seem from the pathetic attempt at trying to question the decision by the Times

[Kizzy]

Yes it would seem from the pathetic attempt at trying to question the decision by the Times

Pathetic attempt?..What's wrong with questioning a rather questionable decision?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pathetic attempt?..What's wrong with questioning a rather questionable decision?

It was just sour grapes from a lesser rival and ad revenue competitior

[Livia]

All this thread says to me is that someone doesn't have any kind of understanding of Hitler, or the term "Hitleresque".

It's like saying Miliband is like Stalin. Ridiculous.

[Rob!]

The only reason he has got this little accolade is because of the impact he has had on Britain this year. In terms of political supremacy, whether you agree with UKIP's policies or not (and I certainly don't), the fact that this party, who apparently has come out of nowhere, is a real contender at the general elections is pretty impressive.
I still hate him though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

All this thread says to me is that someone doesn't have any kind of understanding of Hitler, or the term "Hitleresque".

It's like saying Miliband is like Stalin. Ridiculous.

Yes Milliband is far more like Wallace than Stalin

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140526031303/wallaceandgromit/images/3/3e/Wallace-482x298.jpg

[Tom4784]

Awful choice, a complete and utter joke and it's downright offensive to compare him to the people who truly deserve the title.

I shall be ignoring everything to do with The Times from here on out.

[Kizzy]

All this thread says to me is that someone doesn't have any kind of understanding of Hitler, or the term "Hitleresque".

It's like saying Miliband is like Stalin. Ridiculous.

I coined that phrase and for me it's apt. It's nothing like saying Milliband is like Stalin because I didn't say that...That would be ridiculous, please don't put words in my mouth.

[Kizzy]

It was just sour grapes from a lesser rival and ad revenue competitior

It's owned by the same person..

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's owned by the same person..

irrelevant

[Livia]

What the heck is this?....

Is this a joke? What has he done except spout hitleresque, it's all a little unnerving.



I coined that phrase and for me it's apt. It's nothing like saying Milliband is like Stalin because I didn't say that...That would be ridiculous, please don't put words in my mouth.

I am not putting words in your mouth, I made an analogy - just like you did. It can't be wrong when I do it, but okay when you do it.

You say Farage "spout (sic) hitleresque". I said that was the same as likening Miliband to Stalin, ie: ridiculous. See? No one's putting words in anyone's mouth.

So... likening Farage to a man who waged war across the world and exterminated millions of people is a little beyond the pale even for you.

[the truth]

What the heck is this?....

Is this a joke? What has he done except spout hitleresque, it's all a little unnerving.

'Nigel Farage has been named “Briton of the year” by The Times, which hailed his “game-changing” politics.

The newspaper chronicled the Ukip leader’s journey from the 2010 general election, when he quite literally crashed to the earth in a light aeroplane that became entangled with its trailing party banner.

To add insult to injury as he recovered in hospital on results day, he failed to unseat former Commons Speaker John Bercow. But since then his fortunes have appeared to take a dramatic turn for the better.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-named-briton-of-the-year-by-the-times-9946110.html

He doesn't warrant or deserve this title, it's all very strange.

he does, hes done a great job. the old socialist new labour tactic of calling anyone who disagrees with them a bigot has been seen through. people are sick of it. farage deals in facts, his new labour fantasists deal in petty insults. none of them acknowledge the enormous multi million populaton growth and none of them have a clue as to how we can pay for it if it continues....instead of addressing the elephant in the room easier to name call farage ...pathetic.....rather ironically though all parties are now quietly acknowledging an immigration policy , a limit on numbers and a points system are essential in order for british society to survive. its the same with europe, they know its a disaster as is the euro and th eunworkable constituion. have you read all 587 pages? no didnt think so...lol...has anyone? none of them though have the guts to say so openly and honestly. theyre all hiding behind farage , using him as the fall guy. the cowardly self centre political acreerists.

[Samm]

Scum & trash

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scum & trash

what is?:shrug:

[Firewire]

Scum & trash

pretty much

[Crimson Dynamo]

here we are again with the irony of calling someone scum....

naturally its wasted on the young who cant see it

[Samm]

what is?:shrug:

The guy in you're avi

We all know who the Britain of the year is

http://sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/lily.jpg

but seriously want about that guy who raised that money for cancer? Instead they give it to a racist pig

[Northern Monkey]

Politician of the year...Quite possibly.Briton of the year...No.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy in you're avi

We all know who the Britain of the year is

http://sabotagetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/lily.jpg

but seriously want about that guy who raised that money for cancer? Instead they give it to a racist pig

he is not a racist. stop thinking facebook is real life

you also dont understand what the times award is actually about

:rolleyes:

[dojo88]

All hail St. Farage! :dance: :dance:

I'd rather have him at No.10 than that scumbag Cameron, who blatantly lied to us about the immigration issue and kept the borders open and allow the country to be flooded with too many immigrants, many of whom can't even speak English.

Farage is NOT racist, he just says it how it is and that's exactly why so many people want to vote UKIP nowadays.

[Shaun]

he just says it how it is

except on his tax forms

[Firewire]

does nigel still hate gays?

[Crimson Dynamo]

except on his tax forms

legal tax avoidance is what we all would do and do

no one wants to lose money

[MB.]

does nigel still hate gays?

Well, he defends those who do... (basically, yeah) (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/12/19/nigel-farage-defends-disgusting-old-poofters-former-ukip-candidate/)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well, he defends those who do... (basically, yeah) (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/12/19/nigel-farage-defends-disgusting-old-poofters-former-ukip-candidate/)

he did not defend anything. he said that plenty people do use that type of language which is a fact

[Crimson Dynamo]

does nigel still hate gays?

no, that is the roll of all organised religions

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1178620/thumbs/o-NIGEL-FARAGE-PINT-facebook.jpg

[Tom4784]

How many racist/homophobic scandals have UKIP been involved with this year? It seems like there's a new one every week. In politics in particular, you are the company you keep and his defense of the rampant racism and homophobia within his party only soldifies the image of him being a bigot.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a ****ing duck. He is no better than the bigots in his party and I pity anyone that's foolish enough to think that UKIP getting anymore power than they already are will be a good thing. Keep the scandals coming and send these morons the way of the BNP.

[MB.]

he did not defend anything. he said that plenty people do use that type of language which is a fact

He was saying something to try and make someone in his party look better, so he was defending him, yeah.

[the truth]

How many racist/homophobic scandals have UKIP been involved with this year? It seems like there's a new one every week. In politics in particular, you are the company you keep and his defense of the rampant racism and homophobia within his party only soldifies the image of him being a bigot.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a ****ing duck. He is no better than the bigots in his party and I pity anyone that's foolish enough to think that UKIP getting anymore power than they already are will be a good thing. Keep the scandals coming and send these morons the way of the BNP.

youre name calling makes you sound worse than the people you name call

[the truth]

I am not putting words in your mouth, I made an analogy - just like you did. It can't be wrong when I do it, but okay when you do it.

You say Farage "spout (sic) hitleresque". I said that was the same as likening Miliband to Stalin, ie: ridiculous. See? No one's putting words in anyone's mouth.

So... likening Farage to a man who waged war across the world and exterminated millions of people is a little beyond the pale even for you.

youre 100% right and the blasphemous name caller archangel is 100% wrong

[kirklancaster]

legal tax avoidance is what we all would do and do

no one wants to lose money

:clap1: Especially when we know just how it's being wasted and who on. If the money we work for is left in our own pockets (even via tax avoidance) then we can do with it what we want - even give it to immigrants if we choose.

[Tom4784]

youre name calling makes you sound worse than the people you name call

https://31.media.tumblr.com/5aa5d4d4b946900e47e1ba90c6e7885c/tumblr_inline_nh72ch8mp01r0llde.png

[kirklancaster]

Even if you completely disagree with his parties views you cant disagree that he has had a big influence on politics this year.

The constant shouts of outrage at every little thing that's publicised about him is actually laughable.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Well said.

The issue troubling the great British public above all others is immigration. Every poll confirms this. Speaking to ordinary people in the street confirms this.

This concern does not make these people 'Racist'.

This concern is just why Nigel Farage and his UKIP party are gaining in popularity with the Great British Public.

This is a democracy.

The Majority of people in this Democracy have been increasingly concerned about unfettered imigration for years now.

The Majority of people in this Democracy have 'suffered in silence' while their elected representatives have persistently lied to them about immigration, or ignored their concerns.

Labour MP's have been 'warned' by their leaders not to talk about immigration.

The Conservatives are trotting out the same old rhetoric on immigration which they always have before doing spectacular 'U' turns on the subject, or lying to try to cover up their total impotency on dealing with the issue.

The Majority are not stupid and do not 'swallow' everything that Farage is saying, nor do they necessarily agree with all elements of his party's manifesto, but he is the only political party leader willing to talk about the very real issue of immigration, and the only political party leader with the balls to at least propose some type of real action for dealing with it.

People can scream 'Racist' or 'Homophobic' from the rooftops - it will change nothing, because they are in a Minority and in a Democracy, the Majority will have its way.

Farage may prove to be a liar or totally impotent, but for now, there is no evidence to support such a theory. With the Conservatives and Labour, there is a long history of both parties being proven liars and a wealth of evidence to confirm their political impotency.

The Majority in this Democracy may just be electing to ignore the disproportionate 'scare mongering' about Farage, and might just be seriously regarding him as the 'lesser of three evils'.

Who knows; Farage and UKIP might just prove to be the best political party in the UK for 50 years, and let's face it - they could hardly be any worse than those we have had.

[kirklancaster]

I am not putting words in your mouth, I made an analogy - just like you did. It can't be wrong when I do it, but okay when you do it.

You say Farage "spout (sic) hitleresque". I said that was the same as likening Miliband to Stalin, ie: ridiculous. See? No one's putting words in anyone's mouth.

So... likening Farage to a man who waged war across the world and exterminated millions of people is a little beyond the pale even for you.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

[Samm]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/5aa5d4d4b946900e47e1ba90c6e7885c/tumblr_inline_nh72ch8mp01r0llde.png

Lmao

[Toy Soldier]

The issue troubling the great British public above all others is immigration.

"above all others"? No.


The Majority of people in this Democracy have been increasingly concerned about unfettered imigration for years now.

Maybe? Doubt it.

The Majority of people in this Democracy have 'suffered in silence' while their elected representatives have persistently lied to them about immigration, or ignored their concerns.

No. The majority of people are too busy watching the X factor and drinking too much beer or wine to pay much attention.



The Majority are not stupid and do not 'swallow' everything that Farage is saying, nor do they necessarily agree with all elements of his party's manifesto

Correctish, but more correct:

The Majority are stupid but still do not 'swallow' anything that Farage is saying, nor do they necessarily agree with any of the elements of his party's manifesto

:)

People can scream 'Racist' or 'Homophobic' from the rooftops

They should

it will change nothing

Sadly true, but

because they are in a Minority

Not for this reason. They aren't a minority.

and in a Democracy, the Majority will have its way.

Bzzzzzt. Wrong.

Farage may prove to be a liar

Doubt he's a liar exactly, I'm sure he believes his own garbage. Most of this sort do.

Or totally impotent

:hehe:


The Majority in this Democracy may just be electing to ignore the disproportionate 'scare mongering' about Farage, and might just be seriously regarding him as the 'lesser of three evils'.

No.

Who knows; Farage and UKIP might just prove to be the best political party in the UK for 50 years

No.

they could hardly be any worse than those we have had.

They really, really could.



I'm not convinced you actually understand what the word "majority" means, Kirk. Nor, apparently, do you really comprehend how democracy works in a non-binary decision. To make it binary, remove all other considerations that split the vote. UKIP vs "anything but UKIP". UKIP is then a teeny, tiny minority. People are dumb. They're not THAT dumb. The MAJORITY of people know that Farage and Co are casually racist arseholes. Thankfully.

[Kizzy]

I am not putting words in your mouth, I made an analogy - just like you did. It can't be wrong when I do it, but okay when you do it.

You say Farage "spout (sic) hitleresque". I said that was the same as likening Miliband to Stalin, ie: ridiculous. See? No one's putting words in anyone's mouth.

So... likening Farage to a man who waged war across the world and exterminated millions of people is a little beyond the pale even for you.

Don't patronise me please. Your analogy was as way off as mine, if you thought mine ridiculous why counter with something equally as bizarre?

[Kizzy]

youre 100% right and the blasphemous name caller archangel is 100% wrong

Excuse me...what is it that you object to?

[Niall]

This must be some sort of misprint

[Niall]

Either way I'm sure I'm not the only one in this country who would take deep pleasure in smacking Farage across the temples with a cinderblock.

[joeysteele]

How many racist/homophobic scandals have UKIP been involved with this year? It seems like there's a new one every week. In politics in particular, you are the company you keep and his defense of the rampant racism and homophobia within his party only soldifies the image of him being a bigot.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's a ****ing duck. He is no better than the bigots in his party and I pity anyone that's foolish enough to think that UKIP getting anymore power than they already are will be a good thing. Keep the scandals coming and send these morons the way of the BNP.

Well said, I have to agree with all this.

[kirklancaster]

I have not bothered commenting on the rest of your post T.S. because you merely contradict without giving grounds for your contradiction. And thus it is only a difference of opinion - nothing more, nothing less.

"I'm not convinced you actually understand what the word "majority" means, Kirk. Nor, apparently, do you really comprehend how democracy works in a non-binary decision. To make it binary, remove all other considerations that split the vote. UKIP vs "anything but UKIP". UKIP is then a teeny, tiny minority. People are dumb. They're not THAT dumb. The MAJORITY of people know that Farage and Co are casually racist arseholes. Thankfully"

I understand what the word "majority" means, T.S., as I comprehend how democracy works in a 'non-binary decision'.

I do not think, however that you understood my post (it seems to be an increasingly prevalent trait on here now - maybe it's me? No. It's not).

I was not referring to Farage and UKIP winning any election, therefore 'teeny, tiny' minorities do not come into it - I was referring to UKIP increasing in popularity - nothing more, nothing less.

As for: "People are dumb.They're not THAT dumb. The MAJORITY of people know that Farage and Co are casually racist arseholes. Thankfully".


Well, I do not believe that people are as dumb as you make them out to be - hence the increasing support for Farage and UKIP.

[MTVN]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.

[kirklancaster]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.

Very important points there MT - See why I voted you one of the most intelligent members? (even given our differences of opinion) :blush:

[Livia]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.

Great post MTVN.

[the truth]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.
despite the usual politically correct idiots calling anyone with an opinion sexist racist bigots....farage is well liked and doing a great job. he has backbone, the facts and the balls to speak his mind. for me though his greatest moments are in europe where frankly he takes the piss out of all those corrupt wasteful unaccountable ruinous dangerous euro mupppets. kermit and miss piggy would do a better job

[Firewire]

I think Nicola Sturgeon deserved it this year, even though I'm not a huge fan of hers. Her politics is the kind of politics I would be happy to be part of.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Nicola Sturgeon deserved it this year, even though I'm not a huge fan of hers. Her politics is the kind of politics I would be happy to be part of.

:clap1:

[Toy Soldier]

I was not referring to Farage and UKIP winning any election, therefore 'teeny, tiny' minorities do not come into it - I was referring to UKIP increasing in popularity - nothing more, nothing less.


No, you repeatedly (and with an underline) stated various things about the "Majority" of people. Increasing support does not indicate a "Majority" by any stretch of the imagination. The (vast) "Majority" of people still, thankfully, dislike Farage / Ukip and their xenophobic politics. The minority of people who support Ukip is increasing, but that doesn't in any way make it a majority. It makes it a slightly larger minority.

You also emphatically stated that "in a democracy, the Majority will have its way". Which is untrue to the point of being utter nonsense... the majority of people in the UK didn't want a conservative government, and they certainly didn't want a twisted Tory coalition government, and yet we have one.

Stating with such certainty that "the majority" of people share your political concerns is deluded fantasy, Kirk. Sorry.

[joeysteele]

I think Nicola Sturgeon deserved it this year, even though I'm not a huge fan of hers. Her politics is the kind of politics I would be happy to be part of.

I was an admirer of Alex Salmond although I live in England.

I had my reservations as to Nicola Sturgeon however,I graciously accept I was wrong to have them.
I have liked just about all I have heard from her so far and I love the compassionate social policies she intends to pursue.

So I can easily agree with you that she would have been the most worthy recipient.

[Kizzy]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.

The person I think of when I think of UKIP is Kilroy Silk, he was one of the founding fathers and even he thinks Farage is fascist nutter :laugh:
Didn't UKIPs pillaged MP accuse Farage of being too racist to be taken seriously in the world of real politics?
The person who has made the biggest political impact is Brand and he doesn't even vote!

[the truth]

The person I think of when I think of UKIP is Kilroy Silk, he was one of the founding fathers and even he thinks Farage is fascist nutter :laugh:
Didn't UKIPs pillaged MP accuse Farage of being too racist to be taken seriously in the world of real politics?
The person who has made the biggest political impact is Brand and he doesn't even vote!

brand is an ignorant narcisistic egotist, he fails to listen to any opinion that doesnt wholly agree with his mindless stance....this is a fool who wants to totally legalise all drug use, who cares wholly for the drug users and drug pushers who number fewer than 1 million and doesnt care less about the other 62 million silent majority who get beaten bullied robbed harassed and even killed by these junkies. hence why we in the uk have some of the highest drug crime and crime per head in the entire western world. brand is a populist dangerous name caller. once you get past his gimkmicks and his self obsession and the way he romanticises hiw own drug use...there is nothing. he has no facts , no real ideas, no real backbone....when grilled he recoils, oh im just a comedian ha ha.....yet he then goes around name calling people with differing views, yet has no facts with which to back up his slanderous slurrs...he will do infinitely more damage to the uk than farage.

[Kizzy]

brand is an ignorant narcisistic egotist, he fails to listen to any opinion that doesnt wholly agree with his mindless stance....this is a fool who wants to totally legalise all drug use, who cares wholly for the drug users and drug pushers who number fewer than 1 million and doesnt care less about the other 62 million silent majority who get beaten bullied robbed harassed and even killed by these junkies. hence why we in the uk have some of the highest drug crime and crime per head in the entire western world. brand is a populist dangerous name caller. once you get past his gimkmicks and his self obsession and the way he romanticises hiw own drug use...there is nothing. he has no facts , no real ideas, no real backbone....when grilled he recoils, oh im just a comedian ha ha.....yet he then goes around name calling people with differing views, yet has no facts with which to back up his slanderous slurrs...he will do infinitely more damage to the uk than farage.

Many people have suggested the legalisation of drugs he's not alone, and as most MPs are egotists he would fit in nicely if you ask me.

What does farage think about workers rights, or Womens rights...This 'great' Briton?
Yes he's really 'shook up' politics in the UK, unfortunately when he shook it he set us back a few decades as his theories on those are practically Dickensian.

[the truth]

Many people have suggested the legalisation of drugs he's not alone, and as most MPs are egotists he would fit in nicely if you ask me.

What does farage think about workers rights, or Womens rights...This 'great' Briton?
Yes he's really 'shook up' politics in the UK, unfortunately when he shook it he set us back a few decades as his theories on those are practically Dickensian.

youre acting as his judge and jury , yet you dont even know his opinions on these issues? do your reseacrh before spouting your farage hate

[Kizzy]

youre acting as his judge and jury , yet you dont even know his opinions on these issues? do your reseacrh before spouting your farage hate

I have thank you, I don't hate him I just don't agree with his views.

[the truth]

I have thank you, I don't hate him I just don't agree with his views.

no you clearly havent:nono:

[Kizzy]

no you clearly havent:nono:

You think what you like, if you can't accept that some feel he and his views are regressive then there's not much to say.

[the truth]

You think what you like, if you can't accept that some feel he and his views are regressive then there's not much to say.

you avoid all the questions asked because you know npthing of farage and ukip and you dont know any of the FACTS they are talking about. you simply prefer chea shots and name claling instead of addressing the very serious issues. shame on you:nono:

[Kizzy]

you avoid all the questions asked because you know npthing of farage and ukip and you dont know any of the FACTS they are talking about. you simply prefer chea shots and name claling instead of addressing the very serious issues. shame on you:nono:

I know plenty thank you, and I haven't been asked any questions, unless you want evidence of his skewed views on workers and Womens rights, they're easy enough to find if you look...

[the truth]

I know plenty thank you, and I haven't been asked any questions, unless you want evidence of his skewed views on workers and Womens rights, they're easy enough to find if you look...

enlighten us with your allegations

[Kizzy]

enlighten us with your allegations

do you have google?... there's a few nice links you you tube vids of him spouting off on there.
I won't post them all on here, you can peruse them at your leisure.

[the truth]

do you have google?... there's a few nice links you you tube vids of him spouting off on there.
I won't post them all on here, you can peruse them at your leisure.

i know all about him and hes said nothing of the kind, youre lying

[Kizzy]

i know all about him and hes said nothing of the kind, youre lying

You believe what you like, I'm not arguing the toss with you. If you choose to stick your head in the sand then that's your prerogative.

[Nedusa]

Good choice, well deserved and earned through hard work trying to make Briton a better place to live in for the people who already live here.

An honest hard working politician who cuts through all the double talk and empty rhetoric and says what the ordinary person is thinking.

Well done.



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[kirklancaster]

Good choice, well deserved and earned through hard work trying to make Briton a better place to live in for the people who already live here.

An honest hard working politician who cuts through all the double talk and empty rhetoric and says what the ordinary person is thinking.

Well done.

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:kiss::kiss::kiss:

[Kizzy]

Good choice, well deserved and earned through hard work trying to make Briton a better place to live in for the people who already live here.

An honest hard working politician who cuts through all the double talk and empty rhetoric and says what the ordinary person is thinking.

Well done.



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Do you mean Britain? How is it hard work, he's not saying what ordinary people are thinking that's the problem. Ordinary people want less rights...I don't think so.

The only part of anything he says that anyone ever focuses on is immigration, what about his other very questionable views on other issues... are they irrelevant?

[Beastie]

Nigel Farage :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kizzy loves him really

I can feel that un my water

[Kizzy]

Kizzy loves him really

I can feel that un my water

He's a beer swilling laughing fool, I'm shocked he's hoodwinked so many.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's a beer swilling laughing fool, I'm shocked he's hoodwinked so many.

I really dont think you have listened to him he speaks nothing but common sense

[Kizzy]

I really dont think you have listened to him he speaks nothing but common sense

What is his policy on workers rights and the NHS?

Funny how those who accuse me of not listening to him know nothing of anything else he's said except his tired immigration rants.

[kirklancaster]

What is his policy on workers rights and the NHS?

Funny how those who accuse me of not listening to him know nothing of anything else he's said except his tired immigration rants.

The majority in this country realise that if we do not end the lunacy of free immigration, then there will be no worker's rights or NHS to worry about. It is the major concern.

The healthiest plant can only support so many aphids before it withers and dies. The aphids are OK, they just move on to the next plant.

We've had 50 years of well paid Labour Head Gardeners and Conservative Head Gardeners, and a whole garden shed chocked full with various cans of aphid killers, but those inept Head Gardeners never tried reaching for one single can. Hell, they didn't even see the aphids problem, and all the while our poor plant gets sicker and sicker until it's in its death throes.

Then, before you can say; 'MiracleGro', along comes a wise old gardener called Nigel, and when he tells us that he recognises how those aphids are bleeding this plant dry and that he knows just the remedy to save our plant without even looking in the shed, then a lot of us who love our prized plant are going to listen.

"What's that? The current Head Gardener and the opposition Wannabe Head Gardener are now saying they both know there's an aphid problem? One's saying he'll cure it if we let him keep his job? The other's saying he'll cure it if we make him Head Gardener? "

And we haven't to trust Farage? :joker: LMFAO

[Crimson Dynamo]

What is his policy on workers rights and the NHS?

Funny how those who accuse me of not listening to him know nothing of anything else he's said except his tired immigration rants.

Well i listen to most of what he says and all of his call Farage progs on LBC and as has been stated and is normal at this time he is keeping most of his policies close to his chest as it would be crazy to publish a full manifesto now and have it stolen by the other 3 parties.

I am sure next year your answers will be found in the manifesto

[Jamesy]

The problem with Farage and immigration is that while he has brought up a topic that no other party has really tackled head on, Farage just isn't serious about it. Anyone can go around spouting about how they hate immigrants. But UKIP aren't seriously proposing how they would tackle the issue and they are not opening up sensible debates. They are just going around like a bunch of school kids shouting what they think to get noticed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The problem with Farage and immigration is that while he has brought up a topic that no other party has really tackled head on, Farage just isn't serious about it. Anyone can go around spouting about how they hate immigrants. But UKIP aren't seriously proposing how they would tackle the issue and they are not opening up sensible debates. They are just going around like a bunch of school kids shouting what they think to get noticed.

spoken like someone who gets his ukip info from the daily express/facebook

:rolleyes:

[Jamesy]

spoken like someone who gets his ukip info from the daily express/facebook

:rolleyes:

If I read the Daily Express or Facebook I would be supporting UKIP based on their immigration policies :laugh:

[kirklancaster]

If I read the Daily Express or Facebook I would be supporting UKIP based on their immigration policies :laugh:

:joker: Ouch LT - and 'touche'.:hehe:

[GiRTh]

If I read the Daily Express or Facebook I would be supporting UKIP based on their immigration policies :laugh::joker:

[the truth]

Do you mean Britain? How is it hard work, he's not saying what ordinary people are thinking that's the problem. Ordinary people want less rights...I don't think so.

The only part of anything he says that anyone ever focuses on is immigration, what about his other very questionable views on other issues... are they irrelevant?

youre wrong yet again because you havent done any research so you dont know what youre talking about. his and ukips main target is the disastrous european union...36000 new laws in 4 years directly ruining the uk and british businesses, small ones especially....all of which ruins every part of british life and takes away our sovereignty

[the truth]

He's a beer swilling laughing fool, I'm shocked he's hoodwinked so many.

its people like you and russell brand we need to be weary of trying to hoodwink the masses

[the truth]

What is his policy on workers rights and the NHS?

Funny how those who accuse me of not listening to him know nothing of anything else he's said except his tired immigration rants.

you dont even know the answer to your own questions, youve done no research, its embarassing lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

Controlling and managing our borders

– UKIP recognises the benefits of limited, controlled immigration.

– UKIP will leave the EU, and take back control of our borders. Work permits will be permitted to fill skills gaps in the UK jobs market.

– We will extend to EU citizens the existing points-based system for time-limited work permits. Those coming to work in the UK must have a job to go to, must speak English, must have accommodation agreed prior to their arrival, and must have NHS-approved health insurance.

– Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work) when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years.

– UKIP will reinstate the primary purpose rule for bringing foreign spouses and children to the UK.

– UKIP will not offer an amnesty for illegal immigrants or those gaining British passports through fraud.

– UKIP will return to the principles of the UN Convention of Refugees which serves to protect the most vulnerable.


http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

[the truth]

Controlling and managing our borders

– UKIP recognises the benefits of limited, controlled immigration.

– UKIP will leave the EU, and take back control of our borders. Work permits will be permitted to fill skills gaps in the UK jobs market.

– We will extend to EU citizens the existing points-based system for time-limited work permits. Those coming to work in the UK must have a job to go to, must speak English, must have accommodation agreed prior to their arrival, and must have NHS-approved health insurance.

– Migrants will only be eligible for benefits (in work or out of work) when they have been paying tax and NI for five years and will only be eligible for permanent residence after ten years.

– UKIP will reinstate the primary purpose rule for bringing foreign spouses and children to the UK.

– UKIP will not offer an amnesty for illegal immigrants or those gaining British passports through fraud.

– UKIP will return to the principles of the UN Convention of Refugees which serves to protect the most vulnerable.


http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

THE ability to speak english should also be a prerequisite

[joeysteele]

In 2013 the winner was George Osborne, in 2012 it was Seb Coe, in 2011 Alex Salmond. It seems to basically always be an award concerned with whoever made the biggest impact in politics each year and this year that probably is Farage. Whether we like it or nor - and most of us don't - 2014 politically has been the story of Ukip's rise, and Farage is more synonymous with his party than any other politician. Farage is Ukip; they'd be nothing without him.

This, I can wholly agree with, good points.

[Nedusa]

He's a beer swilling laughing fool, I'm shocked he's hoodwinked so many.

He might be a lot of things but he's no fool...

ps. He speaks highly of you ..... Lol





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[kirklancaster]

He might be a lot of things but he's no fool...

ps. He speaks highly of you ..... Lol

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:joker:

[Kizzy]

He might be a lot of things but he's no fool...

ps. He speaks highly of you ..... Lol





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I very much doubt that, are you and he close?