View Full Version : Katie Hopkins Her 'views' on unemployment and obesity
Jarvio
08-01-2015, 06:05 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
I don't AGREE with her - but her points about laziness could be argued to be true by some.
It's her issue with gingers that gets me - hardly their fault is it? :joker:
Lostie!
08-01-2015, 06:08 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
Yep, many unemployed people actually want to work, and plenty do voluntary work while searching for employment. People who just say "Get a job" expose themselves as being seriously uneducated on the matter. It's not that simple for everyone.
arista
08-01-2015, 06:15 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
Yes a Bitch
but also Funny
Shaun
08-01-2015, 06:17 PM
Obviously there is a problem with laziness and obesity in this country but it's the constant haranguing of issues like these rather than more important ones, like corruption within the banking system, racism, gender inequality or the growing disillusionment with politics, that exposes her as a lightweight (if you'll forgive the pun).
I mean anyone with half a brain can work out that the supposed burden that obesity is on the NHS (£4bn in Scotland, can't find any figures for the whole of the UK) must add up to around 20 billion... and benefit fraud adds up to £1bn... whereas the official tax gap (ie. what Google, Amazon, Vodafone, etc etc etc can't be arsed paying, and I'm sure more digging and uncovering will only see the figure rise...) adds up to £35 billion. Enough to cover both of society's heinous evils with money to spare :pipe:
She's a boring, repetitive coward who's made a mantle for herself to throw abuse at the weakest sections of society.
rionablue
08-01-2015, 06:21 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
I don't AGREE WITH HER. She has put all overweight and unemployed people in the same boat and cast aspersions on them all. She has insulted some of my friends who have red hair, two friends who are overweight one through medical problems and another friend who has been trying for 2 YEARS to get a job. Horrible vile woman and ANYONE who supports her surely MUST be supporting her views also. I for one would not be able to separate her views from the rest of her its all or nothing
GiRTh
08-01-2015, 06:21 PM
Obviously there is a problem with laziness and obesity in this country but it's the constant haranguing of issues like these rather than more important ones, like corruption within the banking system, racism, gender inequality or the growing disillusionment with politics, that exposes her as a lightweight (if you'll forgive the pun).
I mean anyone with half a brain can work out that the supposed burden that obesity is on the NHS (£4bn in Scotland, can't find any figures for the whole of the UK) must add up to around 20 billion... and benefit fraud adds up to £1bn... whereas the official tax gap (ie. what Google, Amazon, Vodafone, etc etc etc can't be arsed paying, and I'm sure more digging and uncovering will only see the figure rise...) adds up to £35 billion. Enough to cover both of society's heinous evils with money to spare :pipe:
She's a boring, repetitive coward who's made a mantle for herself to throw abuse at the weakest sections of society.Excellent post. :clap1:
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 06:21 PM
A lot of unemployed people are lazy, of course there are some who are genuine about getting a job ,but lots are happy to live off taxpayers
rionablue
08-01-2015, 06:24 PM
A lot of unemployed people are lazy, of course there are some who are genuine about getting a job ,but lots are happy to live off taxpayers
SOME of them are chuff but if you are talking percentages I would say they are a much lower percent of society. Many many people who have lost their job WANT to work and SEEK work. Someone has NO AUTHORITY to tar everyone with the same brush. She is a complete and utter bitch of the highest order and I cant see ANY redeeming features if I am honest. I have spoken out against many many housemates in the years I have been in these forums but she is TOP OF THE PILE
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
Just ignore her, she is a pointless waste of space. I have a feeling that fast forward is going to come in very handy this series.
Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2015, 06:27 PM
Most people are lazy to be fair.
joeysteele
08-01-2015, 06:38 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
There are very few people I can really say this as to concerning myself but Katie Hopkins from all I have seen and heard from her is someone I don't agree with anything at all on.
More to the point again from all I have seen and heard from her, she is someone I am very glad I have no agreement as to likely anything too.
One really horrible person is she in my view,.
Whose prejudices and judgements against others who are probably in a far weaker and poorer state than herself,demonstrates to me all that could be wrong in a human being.
Kazanne
08-01-2015, 06:39 PM
A lot of fat people are lazy,a lot of people don't want to work,that cannot be denied,but there are a lot of people who want to work and a lot of people who are overweight from no fault of their own,katie should consider that,as for the remarks about ginger people ,is she serious about that? I think not as that is something nature gives,then you get the fat AND lazy who just sit playing video games or watching TV all day,bet Katie loves them.
Lostie!
08-01-2015, 06:40 PM
A lot of unemployed people are lazy, of course there are some who are genuine about getting a job ,but lots are happy to live off taxpayers
And lots aren't. People like Katie don't just have a go at those people, they tar all unemployed people with the same brush.
Just like she acts like all overweight people have the same circumstances. Just like she suggests all people who have a certain name are bound to be bad news. Just like she claims that anyone with a tattoo will find it hard to be successful.
She makes ignorant, and uneducated, sweeping statements with the sole purpose of causing a bit of controversy and attention for herself. This is why I despair at the "She just speaks the truth" line trotted out. She speaks rubbish.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 06:41 PM
Most people are lazy to be fair.
I can honestly say ,the majority of people who live around me who are on the dole have been so for many years and are more than happy to stay that way ,while milking the system
GiRTh
08-01-2015, 06:44 PM
I can honestly say ,the majority of people who live around me who are on the dole have been so for many years and are more than happy to stay that way ,while milking the systemTry moving house cuz it looks like your area is full of deadbeats. They are definitely the minority where I live.
Creggle
08-01-2015, 06:49 PM
Do you agree with her? Do you think fat and unemployed people are lazy?
I think she's a vile bitch to say such things. My sister has been unemployed for over 5 years now and she has been trying, very hard, to get a job. She is far from lazy, and is overweight due to medication.
Katie Hopkins is a true bitch!
If she's that desperate bro, you can tell her to just get agency work. It's sh*t, usually pays bad and they'll mess her around but it's money.
thinkingoutloud
08-01-2015, 06:53 PM
I think there's a fair amount of truth in it. Obviously you can't apply this to all fat/unemployed people as there are exceptions to every rule, but for the most part she may just be right.
Jarvio
08-01-2015, 06:54 PM
Oh I forgot about the ginger thing. That's even more ridiculous. What a bitch.
emmetmcl
08-01-2015, 06:55 PM
Some unemployed people are lazy
Some fat people are lazy
Some unemployed people aren't lazy
Some fat people aren't lazy.
Another thing, just because a fat person stuffs their face doesn't mean their lazy.
Tom4784
08-01-2015, 06:56 PM
If she's that desperate bro, you can tell her to just get agency work. It's sh*t, usually pays bad and they'll mess her around but it's money.
I'd never recommend that to anyone, you get treated like crap and you can get dropped like a hat at any time. It's far too unreliable to be a good option for a lot of people.
Kazanne
08-01-2015, 06:56 PM
I can honestly say ,the majority of people who live around me who are on the dole have been so for many years and are more than happy to stay that way ,while milking the system
I've seen them Chuff,all got big Tvs,video games and consoles,mobile phones,the works,fags,drink,I did notice you never ever said ALL of them either .
Lostie!
08-01-2015, 06:56 PM
Some unemployed people are lazy
Some fat people are lazy
Some unemployed people aren't lazy
Some fat people aren't lazy.
Another thing, just because a fat person stuffs their face doesn't mean their lazy.
Spot on.
Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2015, 06:59 PM
most fat people are fat because their parents were fat. You dont often see a fat kid with thin parents
Macie Lightfoot
08-01-2015, 06:59 PM
obviously there is a problem with laziness and obesity in this country but it's the constant haranguing of issues like these rather than more important ones, like corruption within the banking system, racism, gender inequality or the growing disillusionment with politics, that exposes her as a lightweight (if you'll forgive the pun).
I mean anyone with half a brain can work out that the supposed burden that obesity is on the nhs (£4bn in scotland, can't find any figures for the whole of the uk) must add up to around 20 billion... And benefit fraud adds up to £1bn... Whereas the official tax gap (ie. What google, amazon, vodafone, etc etc etc can't be arsed paying, and i'm sure more digging and uncovering will only see the figure rise...) adds up to £35 billion. Enough to cover both of society's heinous evils with money to spare :pipe:
She's a boring, repetitive coward who's made a mantle for herself to throw abuse at the weakest sections of society.
o ****
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 06:59 PM
I've seen them Chuff,all got big Tvs,video games and consoles,mobile phones,the works,fags,drink,I did notice you never ever said ALL of them either .
Oh yes ,overseas holiday that WE ,workers and taxpayers have to save all year for ,never without a can of Super Strength in their idle hands ,Playing their massive Dolby Systems at all hours of the night,while my husband is in bed and has to be up at 5 in a morning to pay for Tylers new quad, and I'm not talking the minority of them Im talking the majority ,and not a single intention of ever looking for work
GiRTh
08-01-2015, 07:01 PM
Oh yes ,overseas holiday that WE ,workers and taxpayers have to save all year for ,never without a can of Super Strength in their idle hands ,Playing their massive Dolby Systems at all hours of the night,while my husband is in bed and has to be up at 5 in a morning to pay for Tylers new quad, and I'm not talking the minority of them Im talking the majority ,and not a single intention of ever looking for workYou paint quite a picture. :joker:
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:02 PM
You paint quite a picture. :joker:
You don't :pat:
Tom4784
08-01-2015, 07:03 PM
Oh yes ,overseas holiday that WE ,workers and taxpayers have to save all year for ,never without a can of Super Strength in their idle hands ,Playing their massive Dolby Systems at all hours of the night,while my husband is in bed and has to be up at 5 in a morning to pay for Tylers new quad, and I'm not talking the minority of them Im talking the majority ,and not a single intention of ever looking for work
The only thing worse than those scroungers are those immigrants coming into our country and taking our jobs :fist: amirite?
Macie Lightfoot
08-01-2015, 07:04 PM
The only thing worse than those scroungers are those immigrants coming into our country and taking our jobs :fist: amirite?
Dezzy you read my mind but I don't even know if I want to see chuff's response to this one.
Tom4784
08-01-2015, 07:05 PM
You know sod all about this scumbag ,and please do not make personal attacks on me
I've not made any personal attacks on you, I've commented on your posts. Perhaps, if you can't take your posts being scrutinized you shouldn't ignorantly attack the vulnerable parts of society.
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:05 PM
Chuff is making me go off Katie, pls stop.
Jake.
08-01-2015, 07:05 PM
Dezzy you read my mind but I don't even know if I want to see chuff's response to this one.
Tbh
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:05 PM
The only thing worse than those scroungers are those immigrants coming into our country and taking our jobs :fist: amirite?
If you think you are going to bait me into an infraction ,you're well wrong :bored:
GiRTh
08-01-2015, 07:06 PM
You don't :pat:Cuz I dont know this world. No one I know drinks Super strength and no one I know has a 'Dolby' system that they play at all hours. I think it may be the area you live in. tbh If you lack the ambition to move out of this area that sounds awful then carry on complaining but its not like that where I live
Macie Lightfoot
08-01-2015, 07:07 PM
If you think you are going to bait me into an infraction ,you're well wrong :bored:
are you at least acknowledging that your views are so heinous that they warrant an infraction? :joker:
Tom4784
08-01-2015, 07:08 PM
If you think you are going to bait me into an infraction ,you're well wrong :bored:
I'm not gonna misuse my power, I never infract people I'm in an active discussion with.
Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:09 PM
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Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:10 PM
Katry Hardkins is in the wrong here.
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:11 PM
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Want
Pete.
08-01-2015, 07:11 PM
I think everyone is entitled to their own view and her comments are quite laughable to be fair.
Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:11 PM
Same to be honest at Lia
Kazanne
08-01-2015, 07:19 PM
Why cant Chuff have a different opinion to others without people having a pop ?we all like different people for different reasons,Chuffs a lovely lady,it seems people wait for her to come on then pounce,ffs,she likes her,as do a lot of others.It's not nice to see.I cant see what she has said that is so wrong tbh.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:23 PM
Why cant Chuff have a different opinion to others without people having a pop ?we all like different people for different reasons,Chuffs a lovely lady,it seems people wait for her to come on then pounce,ffs,she likes her,as do a lot of others.It's not nice to see.I cant see what she has said that is so wrong tbh.
Thank you Kaz,its always the same on here, i think they think if they prod and goad enough I will snap and they can run into their little hidey hole and giggle like children, its not going to happen though, they just look very silly
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
08-01-2015, 07:25 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/WCA4EAR7Hpwhq/giphy.gif
Pete.
08-01-2015, 07:27 PM
Chuff supports her faves well tbh
Shaun
08-01-2015, 07:30 PM
In the same way rabid dogs are 'enthusiastic', I suppose
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:31 PM
Why cant Chuff have a different opinion to others without people having a pop ?we all like different people for different reasons,Chuffs a lovely lady,it seems people wait for her to come on then pounce,ffs,she likes her,as do a lot of others.It's not nice to see.I cant see what she has said that is so wrong tbh.
Maybe if she put her point across without belittling people and making harsh sweeping generalisations about large groups of people, she wouldn't have to deal with the backlash.
It's all swings and roundabouts, if you can't handle scrutiny, don't put yourself or your rather unpleasant opinions out there to be scrutinized.
Lostie!
08-01-2015, 07:31 PM
Want
The top or the guy? :hehe:
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:33 PM
Maybe if she put her point across without belittling people and making harsh sweeping generalisations about large groups of people, she wouldn't have to deal with the backlash.
It's all swings and roundabouts, if you can't handle scrutiny, don't put yourself or your rather unpleasant opinions out there to be scrutinized.
"Backlash" that sounds like pack mentality
Tom4784
08-01-2015, 07:33 PM
Why cant Chuff have a different opinion to others without people having a pop ?we all like different people for different reasons,Chuffs a lovely lady,it seems people wait for her to come on then pounce,ffs,she likes her,as do a lot of others.It's not nice to see.I cant see what she has said that is so wrong tbh.
Opinion works both ways, it's not a one way street of an excuse to stop anyone else from stating their opinion about what you've said.
If you're going to have an incendiary opinion then you need to be prepared to defend it. This is a forum, people's opinions are challenged on a regular basis because challenging people's views is a cornerstone of discussion itself.
LukeB
08-01-2015, 07:33 PM
Why cant Chuff have a different opinion to others without people having a pop ?we all like different people for different reasons,Chuffs a lovely lady,it seems people wait for her to come on then pounce,ffs,she likes her,as do a lot of others.It's not nice to see.I cant see what she has said that is so wrong tbh.
I don't know what has gone on tbh, but I agree we all like and dislike different people and people should just respect that.
Kazanne
08-01-2015, 07:34 PM
Maybe if she put her point across without belittling people and making harsh sweeping generalisations about large groups of people, she wouldn't have to deal with the backlash.
It's all swings and roundabouts, if you can't handle scrutiny, don't put yourself or your rather unpleasant opinions out there to be scrutinized.
Who did she belittle? all she said was that SOME(now that is the important word !! SOME people are workshy and lazy,and that is the truth,it seems from some reactions she's a bit close to the mark,now I am moving on as we all know what comes next.
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:34 PM
"Backlash" that sounds like pack mentality
Well considering you were only having a discussion with one person who was mainly criticising you and your opinions, i fail to see how it is a 'pack mentality' tbh, but whatever puts you at ease i suppose.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:37 PM
Well considering you were only having a discussion with one person who was mainly criticising you and your opinions, i fail to see how it is a 'pack mentality' tbh, but what ever puts you at ease i suppose.
You are so very wrong, i will have a discussion with anyone as long as they show respect and do not pounce in packs, I speak my mind in a fair way ,I do not expect some people to stand in waiting for me to post to pounce along with their lounge mates, Im an adult and act as one
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:38 PM
Who did she belittle? all she said was that SOME(now that is the important word !! SOME people are workshy and lazy,and that is the truth,it seems from some reactions she's a bit close to the mark,now I am moving on as we all know what comes next.
And that means what exactly? That couldn't possibly be another wild assumption could it?
Kazanne
08-01-2015, 07:39 PM
And that means what exactly? That couldn't possibly be another wild assumption could it?
You're going off topic,this is about Katie Hopkins
Pete.
08-01-2015, 07:40 PM
You're going off topic,this is about Katie Hopkins
The one and only
Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:40 PM
I want both the top and the boy.
LukeB
08-01-2015, 07:41 PM
You're going off topic,this is about Katie Hopkins
Katie Hopkins :flutter:
Northern Monkey
08-01-2015, 07:41 PM
No,She's a prize nobhead.She only says these things because she thinks its cool to be controversial.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:42 PM
I will go back to Katie and say, if she's upset some people by attacking the lazy gets who cannot be bothered to get a job and feel the world owes them a living for doing nothing ,then good for her, its a pity there not more like her
Liam-
08-01-2015, 07:42 PM
Welp, i give up, I've been well and truly put off Katie :joker:
Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:43 PM
Liam, don't let people change your opinions
Fetch The Bolt Cutters
08-01-2015, 07:43 PM
Who did she belittle? all she said was that SOME(now that is the important word !! SOME people are workshy and lazy,and that is the truth,it seems from some reactions she's a bit close to the mark,now I am moving on as we all know what comes next.
Well considering you were only having a discussion with one person who was mainly criticising you and your opinions, i fail to see how it is a 'pack mentality' tbh, but whatever puts you at ease i suppose.
You are so very wrong, i will have a discussion with anyone as long as they show respect and do not pounce in packs, I speak my mind in a fair way ,I do not expect some people to stand in waiting for me to post to pounce along with their lounge mates, Im an adult and act as one
And that means what exactly? That couldn't possibly be another wild assumption could it?
You're going off topic,this is about Katie Hopkins
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Daniel.
08-01-2015, 07:43 PM
She probably doesn't even think that anyway, just says it for attention
joeysteele
08-01-2015, 07:47 PM
I like Chuff, she is entitled to her views and clearly has seen instances where she has got rightly annoyed at perhaps some 'manipulation' of the benefits structure as to claiming.
So from the instances she makes,I accept she is right and respect wholly her views as to them.
From my end however,I myself have seen a different angle,and the problem with Katie Hopkins is she dumps all benefit claimants in the same bag as she does those she rudely calls fat people and any other group of people, usually those at the lower end of the scale of things, who she has a pre-set negative prejudiced view of.
While it is the case, those on benefits have TVs and the like, where they got them is a different thing, they could be from some firm being paid for by weekly payments,they could even come from some local authorities who provide goods at a small or no interest level, if you are on 'certain' benefits.
Or it could be as what a lot of my family do, when some in my family upgrade their 'luxuries' for want of a better word, if they know someone who is struggling and on benefits, then they hand the old goods over to them. free.
It may well be these things are not acquired without assistance from friends and family.
I have however, these last 2 years come across some of the poorest and weakest in society who are struggling and really going along on the bones of their backside due to the heartlessness from this govt as to its welfare reforms.
The number I have come across and helped, and even dealt with leaves me in little doubt from my perspective, they they are the vast majority and certainly not the minority.
Katie Hopkins problem is that she has no compassion or in fact, in my view, real understanding of the situations those who are the poorest and weakest find themselves in.
If organisations and others help to bring some pleasure to such people by helping out with so called 'luxuries' then good, that is really good I say.
There will always be some, who abuse the system, that is inevitable but please, it is not the majority of people and it is certainly not as the picture is that is painted by Katie Hopkins.
She is just someone who uses controversy and discrimination to get attention by being cowardly and getting at the weakest and poorest who she knows cannot fight back against the media publicity she gets against them, and that is publicity she really craves and feeds on too.
Jason.
08-01-2015, 07:48 PM
50/50.
I don't think being fat and unemployment are linked.
In terms of being overweight, sometimes it is true, some people are lazy to loose the weight and continue to eat and eat, and consume more than they burn. However. But, she also fails to acknowledge the fact some people can't loose weight because of an illnesses such as Prader-Willi Syndrome.
The way I look at it is, if you don't mind being overweight, then fair enough. But if you complain about it get up and get moving.
Unemployed people again 50/50.
I hate it when people live off benefits and have never done a days work in their lives.
It's one thing trying your hardest to get a job, which is fine, but it's another just living off somebody.
I don't mind people working in lower-paid jobs getting benefits to help them, at least they work.
It is perhaps worth a little perspective. Katie has not broken any law with her comment about fat and unemployed people and no one is forced to agree or disagree with her. Comedy often involves some level of criticism at some target group and Katie is nothing more than a caricature that perhaps tests the boundaries of good taste more than some people would like sometimes. That's the extent of her, its only annoying or hurtful if you let it be so.
Chuff has direct experience of people she knows and has voiced her opinion. Again, its hardly controversial, the government has said the same thing both directly and indirectly for years. Storm and tea cup ... and we are only on day 1 :laugh:
Jake.
08-01-2015, 07:49 PM
I've never see a fat person at work so clearly the two are related http://i.imgur.com/CJmWucLs.jpg
daniel-lewis-1985
08-01-2015, 07:50 PM
Why do people have this misconception that people on the dole are raking it in from taxes lol
I had to sign on in 2009 when I broke my collarbone and all I got was £36 a week and the housing benefit only covered half of my rent thank god I have parents who were willing to help me out.
I cant see how anyone would be happy living off such a small amount and having to have to count pennies and pretty much be stuck at home with absolutely nothing to get out of bed for.
There are people who aspire to be poor and sit on their arse all day but that's just ****ing sad and I cannot believe the majority of dole collectors are people with no drive or ambition.
Saying that Katie still makes me laugh I think shes outrageously funny!
Macie Lightfoot
08-01-2015, 07:51 PM
She probably doesn't even think that anyway, just says it for attention
That kinda makes her an even worse character though, I think? Yesterday made it painfully clear that she's not only a legitimately awful person but also a pathetic tryhard who has become more of a rehearsed parody of herself over the years. You could see it in her face that she was grinding her gears so hard to come up with what she thought would be the most acerbic response and it was unfunny. I don't think that the twist of Katie having to be nice to people's faces while being super bitchy in the DR is much different from how she would've been naturally. She seems cut from the same cloth as Speidi, where she'll talk a big game in the DR but then back down from confrontation.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:52 PM
Why do people have this misconception that people on the dole are raking it in from taxes lol
I had to sign on in 2009 when I broke my collarbone and all I got was £36 a week and the housing benefit only covered half of my rent thank god I have parents who were willing to help me out.
I cant see how anyone would be happy living off such a small amount and having to have to count pennies and pretty much be stuck at home with absolutely nothing to get out of bed for.
There are people who aspire to be poor and sit on their arse all day but that's just ****ing sad and I cannot believe the majority of dole collectors are people with no drive or ambition.
And I know people who get more a week then my husband earns for working 40 hours
GiRTh
08-01-2015, 07:52 PM
I think there is something very very wrong when Chuff constantly needs others to defend her right to an opinion. She can state what she wants on here and then we can laugh at her casual prejudices, uninformed ignorance and sweeping generalization.
AnnieK
08-01-2015, 07:54 PM
I know a fat, unemployed, ginger called Ashlee......katie is her idol!
I don't believe for one minute katie believes all what she says to the extent she says, it's all done for effect and attention...which she is clearly getting..
I work in recruitment in a fairly deprived area if Manchester, Salford, and a lot of people who are long term unemployed DO want to work but jobs are sparse plus to earn a decent wage commensurable with the benefits they get is nigh on impossible....a lot of people would be far worse off in a job than not .....that's not their fault it the economy and benefit system they have become entrenched in.
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:54 PM
I think there is something very very wrong when Chuff constantly needs others to defend her right to an opinion. She can state what she wants on here and then we can laugh at her casual prejudices, uninformed ignorance and sweeping generalization.
Hold on a minute ,when have I ever asked someone to defend my opinions? i can do that very nicely on my own ,I speak alone ,I'm an individual I dont hound in packs
Jake.
08-01-2015, 07:55 PM
Hold on a minute ,when have I ever asked someone to defend my opinions? i can do that very nicely on my own ,I speak alone ,I'm an individual I dont hound in packs
He wasn't saying you had asked, he was implying the opposite
Jarvio
08-01-2015, 07:56 PM
a lot of people would be far worse off in a job than not .....
Very true.
Is it lazy to be economical?
chuff me dizzy
08-01-2015, 07:57 PM
I think there is something very very wrong when Chuff constantly needs others to defend her right to an opinion. She can state what she wants on here and then we can laugh at her casual prejudices, uninformed ignorance and sweeping generalization.
This is what he said
joeysteele
08-01-2015, 07:59 PM
I've never see a fat person at work so clearly the two are related http://i.imgur.com/CJmWucLs.jpg
A reason for that too, is that employers avoid by all subtle means to in the main take on 'overweight' employees.
Many overweight people do seek work and apply for endless jobs, only to get the thank you for attending letter but on this occasion you have been unsuccessful.
I learned something else I didn't know a few years ago,someone was diagnosed with diabetes, needing insulin, they had to be on a high dose of insulin due to other conditions too.
They found their weight increased considerably, however apparantly insulin can increase weight.
That was the reason.
There are many reasons why people may be overweight and not all are as black and white as to just laziness.
Very often, there may be and indeed likely are other medical reasons for the problem, something else Katie Hopkins would never even consider.
Amy Jade
08-01-2015, 08:00 PM
White Dee is a perfect example of what Katie talks about.
First she went off work because she had depression over her Mum passing away and I agree she deserves help after that, I'd be a mess too. The problem is the hand out lifestyle is pretty appealing and after a while on it she got comfortable letting others pay for her to live and what annoys me is, she smokes like a chimney. Smoking should be a luxury.
Jake.
08-01-2015, 08:03 PM
A reason for that too, is that employers avoid by all subtle means to in the main take on 'overweight' employees.
Many overweight people do seek work and apply for endless jobs, only to get the thank you for attending letter but on this occasion you have been unsuccessful.
I learned something else I didn't know a few years ago,someone was diagnosed with diabetes, needing insulin, they had to be on a high dose of insulin due to other conditions too.
They found their weight increased considerably, however apparantly insulin can increase weight.
That was the reason.
There are many reasons why people may be overweight and not all are as black and white as to just laziness.
Very often, there may be and indeed likely are other medical reasons for the problem, something else Katie Hopkins would never even consider.
I was joking Joey lol
daniel-lewis-1985
08-01-2015, 08:06 PM
I know a fat, unemployed, ginger called Ashlee......katie is her idol!
I don't believe for one minute katie believes all what she says to the extent she says, it's all done for effect and attention...which she is clearly getting..
I work in recruitment in a fairly deprived area if Manchester, Salford, and a lot of people who are long term unemployed DO want to work but jobs are sparse plus to earn a decent wage commensurable with the benefits they get is nigh on impossible....a lot of people would be far worse off in a job than not .....that's not their fault it the economy and benefit system they have become entrenched in.
Surely they would be mentally better off though even If they earned less in a job as long as they can afford to pay their bills, rent ect then having a job is the best thing for them.
My advice is if the job doesn't pay as much as your benefits then get in there kiss arse and work your way up the company.
Nedusa
08-01-2015, 08:07 PM
Just ignore her, she is a pointless waste of space. I have a feeling that fast forward is going to come in very handy this series.
She may be a true Bitch but that is exactly the reason she has been handsomely paid to appear on CBB.
She may turn out to be TV gold but I think she will not find the "victims" she seeks to ridicule from the other HM . They all look a decent bunch.
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sassysocks
08-01-2015, 08:16 PM
She may be a true Bitch but that is exactly the reason she has been handsomely paid to appear on CBB.
She may turn out to be TV gold but I think she will not find the "victims" she seeks to ridicule from the other HM . They all look a decent bunch.
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A decent bunch, the usual z-list, with a few exceptions, of the brainless, insecure barbie dolls incapable of doing anything other than believe the world is focused on their boobs.
Katie was certainly right when she said Chloe's boobs were the full extent of Chloe. Nothing more to her than that - big deal. The tatooed one with her boobs hanging out is not much better. BB has no real imagination. Same ol, same ol. :sleep:
AnnieK
08-01-2015, 08:18 PM
Surely they would be mentally better off though even If they earned less in a job as long as they can afford to pay their bills, rent ect then having a job is the best thing for them.
My advice is if the job doesn't pay as much as your benefits then get in there kiss arse and work your way up the company.
I'm talking long term unemployed though....they have their rents paid, council tax paid etc etc....they would not be able to survive and pay their bills
Hope Springs
08-01-2015, 08:24 PM
Define "some" and "lots" quantify what you mean...
Shaun
08-01-2015, 08:38 PM
Surely they would be mentally better off though even If they earned less in a job as long as they can afford to pay their bills, rent ect then having a job is the best thing for them.
My advice is if the job doesn't pay as much as your benefits then get in there kiss arse and work your way up the company.
TiBB's answer to Mary Portas...
Surely they would be mentally better off though even If they earned less in a job as long as they can afford to pay their bills, rent ect then having a job is the best thing for them.
My advice is if the job doesn't pay as much as your benefits then get in there kiss arse and work your way up the company.
..would they though..?..so they would be worse off/struggle more/have less/worry more about paying bills etc..I can't see that as adding anything positive to someone's life mentally....for me I think it's more about paying decent wages so people aren't worse off and giving them some feeling of self worth in the work place...
..also what I don't like about Katie Hopkins is that she just feeds into all of the negative media stereotypes...ughhhh, unemployed people/chavvy etc/don't help themselves..well no, unemployment could happen to anyone, whatever their job, whoever they are...and obese people/disgusting/they need to eat less biscuits and exercise more because I can do it/yay me...well yes, because you don't have the life that they have and don't know the reasons why they may be obese, whether physical or psychological so aren't you lucky, Katie...and the difference with her and say a comedian who may say similar things as she does is that what they're saying is...this is all fairly rubbish so let's just try to laugh at ourselves because we can't change certain things while she is scathing, critical, judgemental and saying that what she says is truth...and yet she's so above everyone because she makes a living and a great income through making people feel even worse than they do already about themselves and scoffing at their misfortunes and unhappiness/worries....
jennyjuniper
09-01-2015, 08:26 AM
Regarding fat people and the unemployed, it's true that there are many unemployed who would love to work, given the chance and there are overweight people who are overweight due to glandular problems, medication etc., Unfortunately there are also many who are fat, lazy and want to live at the taxpayers expense.
Those who are fat and lazy or alcoholics or drug takers are encouraged to continue their selfish lifestyles by a government that pays them to continue to drink, stuff their faces or take drugs. Why stop when all you have to say is 'I can't work because I'm an alcoholic, drug dependant or too fat to work'?
Before any of you jump on me for being unsympathetic, I was/am an alcoholic, who has been dry for the past 22 years. I'm not particularly strong willed, so if I can do it, so can they. It's hard at times and it takes a lot of self control, something sadly lacking in todays society of entitled individuals.
lostalex
09-01-2015, 08:36 AM
Perez made a very good point in a very subtle way, bringing up addiction in general to her. i could tell from the change of her voice and her eye contact that it did make her think.
Perez is very arrogant (and if he mentions the size of his dick again i might scream) but he is also somewhat thoughtful and has changed his ways. Atlas he is trying to be a more compassionate human being.
I think he can relate to her because he used to be known for being cruel and saying horrible things and enjoying the attention. It is an interesting dynamic between the 2 of them.
There are many many illnesses that can cause people to become over weight, as well as loads of medication.
Hopkins is a complete tool and to be honest I don't even know why we bother to mention her..
she needs to look in the mirror cause I'm sure we only do movember and not joweluary
ebandit
09-01-2015, 08:57 AM
I'm unemployed..............my favourite quip............'I'm too lazy to work'
I don't have much £ but plenty of what's most precious....time
some skinny people are thin 'cos their too lazy to sort food
I hear large people say 'I dont have time to eat healthy' lol...plenty of
time to eat!
I like katie..........before the show I had never heard of her........she does
herself proud saying it as it is/how she sees it
Mark L
A decent bunch, the usual z-list, with a few exceptions, of the brainless, insecure barbie dolls incapable of doing anything other than believe the world is focused on their boobs.
Katie was certainly right when she said Chloe's boobs were the full extent of Chloe. Nothing more to her than that - big deal. The tatooed one with her boobs hanging out is not much better. BB has no real imagination. Same ol, same ol. :sleep:
all this from one episode, well done!
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