View Full Version : Jeremy Jackson Was BB right to remove Jeremy?
GiRTh
10-01-2015, 09:39 PM
Was BB right to remove Jeremy?
Niamh.
10-01-2015, 09:40 PM
Absolutely, especially after hearing what he just said about it in the bathroom
Shaun
10-01-2015, 09:41 PM
After hearing his defence (which was basically "WELL THEY WERE THERE AND SHE WASN'T WEARING MUCH SO WHAT WAS I SUPPOSED TO DO?")... yes. Quite obviously yes.
zakman440
10-01-2015, 09:41 PM
Yes, 100%.
Pete.
10-01-2015, 09:41 PM
Absolutely, and they should have removed Ken too
Tregard
10-01-2015, 09:41 PM
Yeah probably
Even thought it wasn't malicious, it was out of line, and he wouldn't have been able to integrate with the house after it.
Razor
10-01-2015, 09:41 PM
Yes and Ken should of got the boot too.
Will.
10-01-2015, 09:42 PM
Yes, but if I girl did that to a man, would she get ejected? Probably not
Llewyn
10-01-2015, 09:42 PM
God no, Chole is just milking this, I mean come on she loves the money too show her tits off usually, she is just pissed he got to see them for free. Pathetic *****.
LukeB
10-01-2015, 09:43 PM
God no, Chole is just milking this, I mean come on she loves the money too show her tits off usually, she is just pissed he got to see them for free. Pathetic *****.
Unless you're female you don't know how she feels.
Cherie
10-01-2015, 09:43 PM
The guy was a bit pissed he touched her robe, shouldn't have done it, but hardly an ejectBle offence, Ken's negro comment was worse
Cherie
10-01-2015, 09:44 PM
Unless you're female you don't know how she feels.
I'm female I would have laughed that off
Tregard
10-01-2015, 09:45 PM
God no, Chole is just milking this, I mean come on she loves the money too show her tits off usually, she is just pissed he got to see them for free. Pathetic *****.
Ending your statement with "pathetic *****" kind of invalidates your entire opinion.
Absolutely, and they should have removed Ken too
I agree.
tanussa
10-01-2015, 09:47 PM
I think chloe blew the whole thing out of proportion, which inevitably esculated throughout the house
Niamh.
10-01-2015, 09:49 PM
Ending your statement with "pathetic *****" kind of invalidates your entire opinion.
:worship:
Drew.
10-01-2015, 09:49 PM
The whole things been blown out of proportion but he is still in the wrong and BB don't have much choice but to chuck him out really
Will.
10-01-2015, 09:49 PM
He was drunk and barely touched her! different if he held her hostage and wouldn't let her go fora minute or so.
Black Dagger
10-01-2015, 10:00 PM
Not for me. He was drunk and while it was no excuse he knew he had done wrong and there has been similar scenarios with Hazel and Denise (who won the show thanks to hers) that weren't even given warnings. But I can see an argument for both sides
Braden
10-01-2015, 10:00 PM
I can't imagine Chloe or many of the others being comfortable with him around had he stayed.
People were concerned with him beforehand. It was for the best.
Heaven = Winner
10-01-2015, 10:01 PM
Absolutely, and they should have removed Ken too
This; I feel like Ken shouldn't have got away with what he did either.
Xtopher
10-01-2015, 10:01 PM
I wish he was still there.
Heaven = Winner
10-01-2015, 10:02 PM
To be honest I just feel bad for Jeremy's mental stability. I'm worried about what he might do to himself once he leaves the house :/
Patricia4
10-01-2015, 10:02 PM
I'm female I would have laughed that off
me too
Niamh.
10-01-2015, 10:02 PM
I'm female I would have laughed that off
I probably would have punched him
joeysteele
10-01-2015, 10:03 PM
Yes,I would say.
Although he seemed far more repentant as to the issue while Ken virtually seemed to scoff at what he was being pulled up about
I found it strange too that none of the guys were actually the ones making sure he was okay while being sick.
I also agree that Ken is coming out with some really inappropriate things,if he doesn't go this eviction, I can see him being told to leave too very soon.
Really eventful highlights with a lot going on, a pity it has sunk so low so early. On balance however I could see no other action BB could take as to Jeremy, no way was Chloe going to want him even in the same house as her now,never mind the same room.
LukeB
10-01-2015, 10:03 PM
I probably would have punched him
If males try to touch girls boobs without their permission, females most likely slap them:laugh:
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:03 PM
TBH he was REALLY drunk and it seemed he thought she might have been coming on to him, ok not the smoothest move in the world, happens when your that pissed, but he really could have done a LOT worse. Ken was worse. Chloe was milking it and it was really down to her how to interpret it. I am sure if she slapped his hand he would have stopped and most likely apologised no matter how drunk he was.
I wonder if he'll be at the wrap party. Daley wasn't allowed to go to the wrap party in BB14 so I doubt he will.
erinp5
10-01-2015, 10:07 PM
Yes as Jeremy thinks females are fair game ....
Chloe tries to help him and he reads that as a come on .
Vicky.
10-01-2015, 10:08 PM
I'm female I would have laughed that off
Same tbh
I voted no, but I do feel we weren't shown the full story (I dont mean the incident itself, but I think Chloe may have threatened to leave if he wasnt kicked out)
IMO he made a serious error in judgement. IF its true what he said about her having no end of 'wardrobe malfunctions' when alone with him in there then it does kinda muddy the waters a little. Not saying its ok to grope her, but thats not what he did. Sounds more like he made a drunken pass at her after reading the signals very wrong. I don't think it was malicious at all, however I see why Chloe was upset.
But at the same time...I feel she massively overreacted, possibly due to everyone else flapping around her. But she didn't overreact half as much as much as BB did. And Perez. My god I was starting to like him too but what a ****ing banshee he is :umm2:
Cherie
10-01-2015, 10:08 PM
Not for me. He was drunk and while it was no excuse he knew he had done wrong and there has been similar scenarios with Hazel and Denise (who won the show thanks to hers) that weren't even given warnings. But I can see an argument for both sides
Denise's pants pulling was far worse and Hazel, I feel iT was used as an excuse to remove him for other reasons
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:08 PM
Yes as Jeremy thinks females are fair game ....
Chloe tries to help him and he reads that as a come on .He was off his face mate.. room spinning and puking up.. not in the right frame of mind to make calculated decisions.
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:09 PM
Denise's pants pulling was far worse and Hazel, I feel iT was used as an excuse to remove him for other reasonsI think they removed him because ultimately they thought he was too unstable WITH the drink around him etc.
thinkingoutloud
10-01-2015, 10:10 PM
No, if a female had done a similar thing (just like Denise during pantsgate, which was actually just as bad if not worse, because it was in public) then they wouldn't have been removed. I believe Perez helped to get him ejected also since he kept harping on about how he didn't feel 'safe' around Jeremy in the house so Big Brother basically were left with no choice but to remove him. Without the reaction I suspect they would have given him a formal warning and left it at that and rightly so.
Vicky.
10-01-2015, 10:11 PM
Also BB kinda manufactured the whole thing tbh. Didnt Jeremy say in his VT he had been in rehab for alcoholism/drugs?! Not saying being off your tits is an excuse for anything but to let a guy with obvious problems drink straight rum mixed with vodka...well...
smudgie
10-01-2015, 10:12 PM
I don't think they had much option.
Mind you, had they kept him in then Perez might have felt he was in so much danger he would have to walk..well, one can dream.
muchadoaboutnothing
10-01-2015, 10:12 PM
Chloe milked it for what it was. Jeremy should have just being given a warning. Stephanie in a Civilian BB used the N word without thinking and was removed from the house. Ken, (of who I'm a fan) is much older and should have know better, should have been removed. I know one person I would love to see removed and that is Perez as he just seems to be stirring things. So NO, Jeremy should not have been removed and Ken should have being shown the door (to the left).
It's difficult, Chloe's reaction made it quite hard not to remove him because she wouldn't be comfortable around him anymore which is fair enough from her perspective and that needs respected. His justification was pretty stupid as well, who thinks that a girl is trying to make a pass at them when you've got your head in a toilet? And even if he did think that, trying to expose her isn't gonna be a very good way to initiate anything :umm2: Probably best to nip it in the bud and get him out rather than risk any further damage
jaxie
10-01-2015, 10:14 PM
I don't think they could do anything but evict him but I do feel a little sympathy for him because he's going to be labelled a sex pest now. It sounds more like a drunk fumble than anything though he should not have touched. I do think Chloe was stupid to be alone in the toilet with him what was that about, couldn't she help from a distance with the door open rather than getting right in there with his vom.
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:16 PM
I don't think they could do anything but evict him but I do feel a little sympathy for him because he's going to be labelled a sex pest now. It sounds more like a drunk fumble than anything though he should not have touched. I do think Chloe was stupid to be alone in the toilet with him what was that about, couldn't she help from a distance with the door open rather than getting right in there with his vom.Yeah I mean when you add it all up... SUPER DRUNK UNSTABLE GUY + HALF NAKED MODEL IN DRESSING GOWN WITH BOOBS HANGING OVER YOUR HEAD..... Not like he raped her you get me? Think he just misread it at that moment in time. Badly.
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:17 PM
He needs to work on his moves, prolly thought he was in one of his sex tapes lol.
Cherie
10-01-2015, 10:18 PM
I think they removed him because ultimately they thought he was too unstable WITH the drink around him etc.
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It may have been 'blown out of proportion' but who are we to argue that. It's based of the feelings of Chloe, so yes I agree he should have been removed.
Braden
10-01-2015, 10:20 PM
Also BB kinda manufactured the whole thing tbh. Didnt Jeremy say in his VT he had been in rehab for alcoholism/drugs?! Not saying being off your tits is an excuse for anything but to let a guy with obvious problems drink straight rum mixed with vodka...well...
I'm surprised they were even allowed vodka and rum.
Isn't it normally just beer/cider and win they're provided with?
Jake.
10-01-2015, 10:21 PM
He made a serious error of judgment, he was happy to accept so, yes it was the right move. I hope he gets whatever help he needs.
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:22 PM
He made a serious error of judgment, he was happy to accept so, yes it was the right move. I hope he gets whatever help he needs.Sad I was hoping the show would turn his life around.
sampvt
10-01-2015, 10:25 PM
He was wrong and deserved to be punished somehow but not evicted. Ill give him his dues though, he didn't try to wriggle out of it, he stood up and took his punishment. Chloe milked it and I think she might regret it in time. Would she have acted like that if it was Callum doing the flicking.
Lister of Smeg
10-01-2015, 10:26 PM
Sad I was hoping the show would turn his life around.
Good to see the special one is a BB fan :smug:
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:26 PM
He was wrong and deserved to be punished somehow but not evicted. Ill give him his dues though, he didn't try to wriggle out of it, he stood up and took his punishment. Chloe milked it and I think she might regret it in time.Finally I agree with you Sir.
Vicky.
10-01-2015, 10:26 PM
I think they removed him because ultimately they thought he was too unstable WITH the drink around him etc.
Surely they should have thought of this before putting him in? Its no secret thats hes ****ed up :laugh:
Same with Callum really...I dont feel its right to surround a 'recovering/recovered' alcoholic with so much booze. Especially spirits.
I'm sure Denise (?) was a former alkie too, who turned to her old ways with the amount of drink available in there
The whole things been blown out of proportion but he is still in the wrong and BB don't have much choice but to chuck him out really
This unfortunately
Jose Mourinho
10-01-2015, 10:29 PM
Surely they should have thought of this before putting him in? Its no secret thats hes ****ed up :laugh:
Same with Callum really...I dont feel its right to surround a 'recovering/recovered' alcoholic with so much booze. Especially spirits.
I'm sure Denise (?) was a former alkie too, who turned to her old ways with the amount of drink available in there100% But in fairness sometimes shows like these can turn peoples lives around. Possibly what they were thinking.
arista
10-01-2015, 10:31 PM
No
Chloe Over Played it
Fact
armand.kay
10-01-2015, 11:10 PM
Firstly want to say that I completely understand Chloe's reaction and I'm in no way placing any blame on her. However I don't think Jeremy did what he did not knowing she was naked underneath her robe and I believe he made a genuine mistake. I also want to point out the double standards with big brothers decision. In cbb9 Denise had purposely pulled down karrissa's pants exposing her butt in front of everyone and all big brother did was give her a warning and most people on here, bots and in the house (because they hated the twins) said that karissa was over reacting and even laughed at her claiming that she has no right to be upset because she's a playboy model who has shown her butt before, some were even posting pictures of her showing her butt and using them to justify Denise's actions. Imo what Denise did was far worse than what Jeremy has done so I fail to see how one is kicked of and hated and the other is only given a warning and goes on to win.
mr rochester
10-01-2015, 11:14 PM
He needed to go - he should never have been allowed in in the first place...
Firstly want to say that I completely understand Chloe's reaction and I'm in no way placing any blame on her. However I don't think Jeremy did what he did not knowing she was naked underneath her robe and I believe he made a genuine mistake.
This is the bit that doesn't ring true for me I'm afraid. So why then did he do it, to look at her bra or teeshirt? I don't think so. He may not of thought she was naked underneath but he sure was hoping she was.
armand.kay
10-01-2015, 11:30 PM
This is the bit that doesn't ring true for me I'm afraid. So why then did he do it, to look at her bra or teeshirt? I don't think so. He may not of thought she was naked underneath but he sure was hoping she was.
Yeah watching back his explanation in the bathroom (I didn't hear the first time) it seems a bit more sleezy than I first though.
Vicky.
10-01-2015, 11:35 PM
He knew/hoped she was naked. However I genuinely do think he thought she was flirting.
Though quite why anyone would flirt with someone who had just been vomitting is beyond me :umm2:
newsbb
10-01-2015, 11:39 PM
i think it has been blown over proportion...
RockBottom
10-01-2015, 11:44 PM
He should be in a psych ward not big brother. He seems very unstable due to long term drug and alcohol abuse. I feel really bad for Chloe. There is no way he should have stayed.
rionablue
10-01-2015, 11:53 PM
God no, Chole is just milking this, I mean come on she loves the money too show her tits off usually, she is just pissed he got to see them for free. Pathetic *****.
That is quite simply AN AWFUL thing to say. What Jeremy did to someone who was genuinely trying to help him was TOTALLY out of order. Why oh why oh why do you blame the girl and to call her a *****. She admitted in the diary room she is a page 3 girl and that was her choice to work in that area. It wasn't her CHOICE tonight for Jeremy to do what he did !!!!!!!!!!!
Tom4784
10-01-2015, 11:54 PM
BB was right to eject him, it was an assault and he didn't really seem all that sorry for it to me. He shouldn't have been in the house in the first place though, he obviously isn't well.
It does sicken me that people are blaming Chloe for this, just because you don't like someone doesn't make them any less of a victim if something bad happens to them.
rionablue
10-01-2015, 11:55 PM
I think chloe blew the whole thing out of proportion, which inevitably esculated throughout the house
So you would have been ok for a man to touch you when you were only trying to help him right?????????????????? I certainly wouldn't have been and I would also be in tears as up to then she had got on fine with Jeremy and her and the girls had been there trying to make sure he was ok.
rionablue
11-01-2015, 12:01 AM
I don't think they could do anything but evict him but I do feel a little sympathy for him because he's going to be labelled a sex pest now. It sounds more like a drunk fumble than anything though he should not have touched. I do think Chloe was stupid to be alone in the toilet with him what was that about, couldn't she help from a distance with the door open rather than getting right in there with his vom.
Three of the girls were in there with him. When they went out she told them to keep the door open. Watch the show again if you don't believe me. For some reason they let it close. it was then that the incident happened. This is what the girl gets for trying to be helpful.
Northern Monkey
11-01-2015, 12:57 AM
Did Hazel get ejected for pulling Daley's boxers down?No and that is much worse than Jeremy moving Chloes robe slightly near her boob.
He made a mistake while heavily intoxicated.
When Chloe said "that's not ok" then that should've been the end of it.He knew then that he'd read the situation wrong.However Chloe running out of the toilet crying and milking it as much as possible was highly unnecessary and Perez getting in on the action to take the lime light saying "i don't feel safe"....WTF?He should not have been ejected just as Hazel or Denise were'nt.He was stupid but he got stitched up big time.
He's got a problem with drink that led to the event tonight. If he'd been kept in, and continued to have access to booze, something worse could have happened. It isn't a simple case of 'oh, sorry, I'll just keep away from the drink now' - the man's struggled with addiction for a lot of his life. It'd have been stupid for Channel 5 to take the risk and keep him in there.
LukeB
11-01-2015, 01:02 AM
He's got a problem with drink that led to the event tonight. If he'd been kept in, and continued to have access to booze, something worse could have happened. It isn't a simple case of 'oh, sorry, I'll just keep away from the drink now' - the man's struggled with addiction for a lot of his life. It'd have been stupid for Channel 5 to take the risk and keep him in there.
you made a very good point here :clap1:
MojoNixon
11-01-2015, 01:16 AM
Was BB right to remove Jeremy?
Yes. Little perv.
Lwize
11-01-2015, 01:23 AM
Jeremy's behavior was unacceptable, and being drunk isn't a valid excuse.
BB took the appropriate action, even if Chloe's reaction could be viewed as excessive.
Ken is riding a fine line, but he'll likely be voted out on Tuesday anyway.
I don't think so.
I just can't help but think mountains were made out of mole hills. I'm not denying Chloe was upset by what had happened, but the fact that she was borderline hyperventilating from the experience tells me that she was just as pissed as Jeremy was. It wasn't something he was likely to repeat but I wonder if there was more to his removal than just the incident in the loos - he did seem a tad warped at times. Maybe best for himself that he was taken out at this stage.
Ninastar
11-01-2015, 03:01 AM
Watching this on channel 5 now and I have very mixed feelings about this.
I believe he should have been ejected but mainly because of how upset Chloe was. We don't know what exactly happened (apart from that he did open her dressing gown) and I think he has serious problems. I felt so bad for Chloe (I think she's had something happen to her in the past... so I think whatever happened in the bathroom triggered her) but I also feel bad for Jeremy.
He is messed up. I don't know if he's on something, or just an alcoholic or what, but he clearly doesn't think straight. He said something about struggling to live and I know from personal experience that when you're in that state, you're completely not yourself.
I don't believe in sexual assault at all. It makes me angry to think that someone could think it's okay. But I don't think Jeremy meant it in a 'creepy' or 'pervy' way, if that makes sense.
It was right for him to be ejected, because of how upset Chloe was. I also think that something else would have happened to get him ejected if it wasn't this.
Sorry if this makes no sense... I'm kind of tipsy and tired too.
Mystic Mock
11-01-2015, 03:04 AM
No for these reasons.
1. He was drunk.
2. He was a Housemate that was funny, without pissing me off.
3. We actually didn't get any footage of what he actually did.
4. Chloe behaving like a rape victim does make the case look dodgy.
5. He throught that she had a bathing suit on.
6. How many guys wouldn't rip her robes off? (that part being a joke of course)
LukeB
11-01-2015, 03:06 AM
No for these reasons.
1. He was drunk.
2. He was a Housemate that was funny, without pissing me off.
3. We actually didn't get any footage of what he actually did.
4. Chloe behaving like a rape victim does make the case look dodgy.
5. He throught that she had a bathing suit on.
6. How many guys wouldn't rip her robes off? (that part being a joke of course)
I see where you're coming from tbh, but was it wise for him to drink when he had an alcohol addiction?
Mystic Mock
11-01-2015, 03:24 AM
I see where you're coming from tbh, but was it wise for him to drink when he had an alcohol addiction?
I find it hard to properly judge though because BB wouldn't show us any footage of what was going on in the Toilet.
Chloe seems like the sort of person who likes to make the most of situtions and play on it like she did with Ken's comment a few minutes are the Jeremy incident happened, BB could have gone a bit easier on them due to him being in that state it really is no different to what Denise did to one of the Twins which was actually on Camera, she exposed someone knowingly (same as Hazel with Daley) where as Jeremy might not have known she was naked, seems really harsh to me but at the same time i suppose it sends out the right message
hopefully she doesnt milk it and make more of it though, the guy made a foolish mistake and he has paid for it
LukeB
11-01-2015, 03:28 AM
I find it hard to properly judge though because BB wouldn't show us any footage of what was going on in the Toilet.
If i remember correctly he told alexandar about his alchoul addiction.
Mystic Mock
11-01-2015, 03:35 AM
Why do people keep mentioning about Chloe milking it? It's ironic after what Jeremy tried to do and it's making me laugh.:joker:
Mystic Mock
11-01-2015, 03:37 AM
If i remember correctly he told alexandar about his alchoul addiction.
Oh I know, I just feel that Chloe was able to make the most out of it there because Jeremy was drunk, and BB wouldn't show the footage in the Toilet although we've seen everything from Cami all in one highlight show.
Btw this is not me wanting to perv, but just actually wanting to properly assess the situation.
...I think that they were completely right to remove him..Chloe had the right to react in the way she did but he did not have the right to pull back her robe...there is a world of difference between her making a decision to show her body in modelling/for her job because that's something she feels comfortable doing but what he did left her feeling completely vulnerable...he was drunk is no excuse at all..interesting though that females are often condemned if they consume alcohol to a level that they put themselves in a vulnerable position..so are often partly blamed if that vulnerability is abused by someone...and now with this, he's consumed alcohol to a level that he thinks it's ok to pull back her robe and expose her body..but he can't be completely blamed because he was drunk...anyway, by his own admission he has serious emotional issues and has very little rational judgements atm so should not be in the house at all..either for his own wellbeing and safety or anyone else who is around him...
I don't think he should have done it, but for him to get ejected over it was too much. They just pick and choose who gets reprimanded as of late and it's one of the reasons I quit watching bb. The same rules should apply to everyone male or female.
Like how in the **** was Ken not ejected as well for his comments.
BeloTheBelt
11-01-2015, 10:03 AM
Right decision to eject him. In this day and age you cant do what he did.
Might have got away with it (been laughed off) in the 1970s but not now.
Same tbh
I voted no, but I do feel we weren't shown the full story (I dont mean the incident itself, but I think Chloe may have threatened to leave if he wasnt kicked out)
IMO he made a serious error in judgement. IF its true what he said about her having no end of 'wardrobe malfunctions' when alone with him in there then it does kinda muddy the waters a little. Not saying its ok to grope her, but thats not what he did. Sounds more like he made a drunken pass at her after reading the signals very wrong. I don't think it was malicious at all, however I see why Chloe was upset.
But at the same time...I feel she massively overreacted, possibly due to everyone else flapping around her. But she didn't overreact half as much as much as BB did. And Perez. My god I was starting to like him too but what a ****ing banshee he is :umm2:
I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..
I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..
Kazanne
11-01-2015, 10:39 AM
I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..
I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..
This ^ Ken was far worse imo.
Cherie
11-01-2015, 10:40 AM
I agree with this.. I'm not saying what he did was ok but the fact he was drunk has to be taken into account. I'm sure we've all been groped in a pub or club by some guy that would never normally do it sober. I personally would have told him to **** off and that would have been the end of it..
I was much more shocked by Ken tbh..
:clap1:
Firewire
11-01-2015, 10:41 AM
Yes, but Ken should have been ejected too.
Cherie
11-01-2015, 10:43 AM
Right decision to eject him. In this day and age you cant do what he did.
Might have got away with it (been laughed off) in the 1970s but not now.
It was a drunken fumble, I like to think (mistakenly in some cases it seems) that women have a much stronger mindset when it comes to incidents like this and can deal with it competently in this day and age!, it's not like he had her at knife point or was holding the key to her chastity belt.:laugh:
dyfed
11-01-2015, 10:45 AM
I'm female I would have laughed that off
I agree,I would have thought the business she is in she would have known how to handle it better,can you imagine if it was Michelle or cami ......a quick kick in the you know what would have sort him out....
Can't help wondering if she will get the sympathy vote!!!!
Philanthropite
11-01-2015, 10:46 AM
I also believe he shouldn't have been evicted.
Chloe is completely right in that even despite doing page 3 - if she didn't want to be touched/partially disrobed then none had the right to (of course).
However my problem is that as some of the other girls are responding in the thread - they would have laughed it off. Especially considering the situation where he was blatantly not in the right frame of mind being drunk enough to vomit.
In short her reaction was like she'd been raped, and let's look at it logically, she's done page 3 and she's not foreign to showing her bits off so if any type of girl would laugh it off, SHE SHOULD HAVE.
Then again I do hate the double standard as it is, a woman brushes/grabs a guys pecks/rubs his stomach towards his crotch area and nobody bats an eyelash. Disrobed for literally seconds? Obvious rape victim... and it's the type of female mentality that goes on about this eye-rape bollocks. Utter lunacy.
With that said, what he did was still wrong, everyone mutually agrees on that, but she was in his space to begin with and he was blatantly pissed out of his head.
Cherie
11-01-2015, 10:50 AM
I also believe he shouldn't have been evicted.
Chloe is completely right in that even despite doing page 3 - if she didn't want to be touched/partially disrobed then none had the right to (of course).
However my problem is that as some of the other girls are responding in the thread - they would have laughed it off. Especially considering the situation where he was blatantly not in the right frame of mind being drunk enough to vomit.
In short her reaction was like she'd been raped, and let's look at it logically, she's done page 3 and she's not foreign to showing her bits off so if any type of girl would laugh it off, SHE SHOULD HAVE.
Then again I do hate the double standard as it is, a woman brushes/grabs a guys pecks/rubs his stomach towards his crotch area and nobody bats an eyelash. Disrobed for literally seconds? Obvious rape victim... and it's the type of female mentality that goes on about this eye-rape bollocks, utter lunacy.
With that said, what he did was still wrong, everyone mutually agrees on that, but she was in his space to begin with and he was blatantly pissed out of his head.
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Philanthropite
11-01-2015, 10:51 AM
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I'm not contradicting myself, he shouldn't have been evicted, but what he did was wrong, in the same way that plenty of housemates have done WRONG things and haven't been evicted for them.
The level of it's severity wasn't evict worthy. Not in the slightest.
If you was agreeing with me though my apologies.
Cherie
11-01-2015, 10:57 AM
I'm not contradicting myself, he shouldn't have been evicted, but what he did was wrong, in the same way that plenty of housemates have done WRONG things and haven't been evicted for them.
The level of it's severity wasn't evict worthy. Not in the slightest.
If you was agreeing with me though my apologies.
I'm agreeing with you and highlighted the points I agree with!
Philanthropite
11-01-2015, 11:00 AM
I'm agreeing with you and highlighted the points I agree with!
Sorry, my mistake, I don't use the forums much :)
Jemal
11-01-2015, 11:41 AM
Chloe went into a room with only a robe on and nothing underneath with a drunken man who just came off a divorce and is obviously vunerable. I like chloe but she overreacted so much it became so cringe. I'm not saying what jeremy done is okay of course? It wasn't.
But i mean he should not of been ejected for it, at all when far worseeee has been done in the CBB house.
Also theres a lot of people on here who just automatically think the popular opinion (he should of got ejected) is right. There scared to think any other than that due to the backclash they will get. Use your own brain and think this through, there is no way this ejection is justisfied. I dont care what anyone says
Denver
11-01-2015, 11:50 AM
...I think that they were completely right to remove him..Chloe had the right to react in the way she did but he did not have the right to pull back her robe...there is a world of difference between her making a decision to show her body in modelling/for her job because that's something she feels comfortable doing but what he did left her feeling completely vulnerable...he was drunk is no excuse at all..interesting though that females are often condemned if they consume alcohol to a level that they put themselves in a vulnerable position..so are often partly blamed if that vulnerability is abused by someone...and now with this, he's consumed alcohol to a level that he thinks it's ok to pull back her robe and expose her body..but he can't be completely blamed because he was drunk...anyway, by his own admission he has serious emotional issues and has very little rational judgements atm so should not be in the house at all..either for his own wellbeing and safety or anyone else who is around him...
So what if it was in a club? Someone got the wrong end of the stick would you call the police
I don't know if he should have been ejected or not, as not sure we are getting the whole picture on this. But it is annoying that things in past BBs and CBBs are let go/BB looks the other way, which seem worse if possible and some are acted on. If you punish one for certain behaviour in that way, then imo punish all for certain behaviour, not pick and choose because of who the housemate is.
rionablue
11-01-2015, 11:58 AM
Chloe went into a room with only a robe on and nothing underneath with a drunken man who just came off a divorce and is obviously vunerable. I like chloe but she overreacted so much it became so cringe. I'm not saying what jeremy done is okay of course? It wasn't.
But i mean he should not of been ejected for it, at all when far worseeee has been done in the CBB house.
Also theres a lot of people on here who just automatically think the popular opinion (he should of got ejected) is right. There scared to think any other than that due to the backclash they will get. Use your own brain and think this through, there is no way this ejection is justisfied. I dont care what anyone says
Jesus!!!!! Chloe and some of the other girls went into the toilet to see if Jeremy was ok and try and help him any way they could. You CLEARLY don't like Chloe if you are making it out that she went in with just a robe on wanting something from him. The other girls were in there for most of the time and when they left Chloe told them to keep the door open and asked Jeremy was he ok? The door closed then Jeremy did what he did and she was clearly heard telling him it was NOT OK.
In her line of work I am sure Chloe has come across many men who think is is 'easy' and game for anything. While Jeremy didn't seem to think this he crossed the line when he tried to open her robe. Now women would have different reactions to this happening, A Just telling him it was not ok and walking out B Slapping him or something similar or C Telling him it was not ok and letting their feelings take over and being hurt and tearful. NOBODY can say that this girl was MILKING it or looking for attention but then in so so many cases the woman is always either blamed or its said she LED the perpretator on.
Chloe is a human being and her feelings and reactions are her own. She made it clear in the diary room that even though she is a page 3 model that is her CHOICE. What happened in the toilet was NOT. Please give the girl a break !!!!!!!!!! By the way it was unfortunate that Jeremy was so drunk and so high as he was quite a good housemate but he was a ticking time bomb and it was poor poor judgement of BB to put him in there in the first place seeing that his divorce is so recent and all the struggles he has faced
Kizzy
11-01-2015, 12:04 PM
I think he misread the signals being half cut or whatever he was, what denise welsh did was as bad and she won...
G1dds
11-01-2015, 12:12 PM
I think he was unfairly ejected
Chloe ridiculously over reacted. Seriously it should have been slightly awkward, I would have been slightly embarrassed but would have brushed it off after telling him off. Done and dusted
But then I wouldn't be walking around a house naked underneath a dressing gown, with a bunch of strangers. I don't even open my front door or go in the garden naked except for a dressing gown. I don't walk about in the smallest of bikinis either and I certainly wouldn't be holding his hair back whilst he puked with a piece of clothing that drapes open so easily
So yes, a massive over reaction to him just moving her dressing gown slightly, and most sensible thinking people would have just brushed it off
Slightly different to him holding her up against the wall or pinning her down groping her
And Perez's reaction was even worse - moron
GiRTh
11-01-2015, 04:03 PM
The poll is closer tan I thought.
They were right to remove him IMO. The incident left a few hm's very upset so it was the logical thing to do.
JoshBB
11-01-2015, 04:04 PM
I can't believe this is even up for discussion tbh
AnnieK
11-01-2015, 04:07 PM
I wonder if Chloe was asked how she would feel if he remained in the house?
GiRTh
11-01-2015, 04:10 PM
I wonder if Chloe was asked how she would feel if he remained in the house?Good question. I'm not sure she would have said she didnt want him in the house though, unlike Perez.
Denver
11-01-2015, 04:12 PM
I wonder if Chloe was asked how she would feel if he remained in the house?
Chloe said she still likes him as a person
AnnieK
11-01-2015, 04:15 PM
Good question. I'm not sure she would have said she didnt want him in the house though, unlike Perez.
Yeah...I have a feeling that if they had talked sober they could have worked it out and put it behind them but I guess the extreme reaction of Perez escalated it quicker than needed.
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