To everyone saying Chloe should've had more clothes on underneath

[Macie Lightfoot]

why? I'm genuinely curious, why?

[Denver]

She is on TV?

[Samm]

Because they're probably sad about Jeremy leaving so they make up random ****

[Will.]

Don't know

[Vicky.]

I dont understand why she should have had more clothes on at all. Its up to her if shes naked under a robe...she might have just had a shower, she may just be more comfortable like that, whatever the reason its not like she was strutting about butt naked :shrug:

[Niamh.]

its a disgrace people are trying to blame Chloe, poor girl she seemed genuinely distressed and shocked by the whole thing and rightly so imo

[GiRTh]

I agree with the OP its nonsense. She's gonna be living there for potentially three weeks what is she supposed to wear? Is she supposed to go into the shower fully clothed?

Are people saying she deserved it? Please no.

[Kazanne]

why? I'm genuinely curious, why?

Because maybe you're in a house full of strangers half of them men and there is always room for that wardrobe malfunction,just a thought.

[Niamh.]

wow some of this is reeking of "she deserved to be raped because her skirt was too short" kind of crap :bored:

[MB.]

It's like leaving chocolate on the table, everyone's going to be tempted to grab some. If you put it away no one take it.

So you'd rather that before she went to help her housemate being sick in the next room, she stopped and put more layers on? I'm sure the thought of Jeremy misinterpreting the situation was the first thing on her mind, not her helping him, sure.

[Ant.]

I agree with the OP its nonsense. She's gonna be living there for potentially three weeks what is she supposed to wear? Is she supposed to go into the shower fully clothed?

Are people saying she deserved it? Please no.

People are saying "Jeremy was drunk" and "she should've worn more clothing"
Neither of those excuse what happened and I don't understand why anyone should have to wear 'more clothes' so that someone doesn't look at them naked

[Niamh.]

So you'd rather that before she went to help her housemate being sick in the next room, she stopped and put more layers on? I'm sure the thought of Jeremy misinterpreting the situation was the first thing on her mind, not her helping him, sure.

Yeah I doubt she was flirting with him while he's puking his guts up fgs

[bots]

I thought she was appropriately covered. :shrug:

I think alcohol was the reason for a lot of the drama and behaviour in the show, and BB can be held responsible for that.

[Shaun]

because no one who is wearing jeans and a t-shirt is ever assaulted, duh

yes fedora brigade obviously she wasn't assaulted blah blah blah

[MB.]

Yeah I doubt she was flirting with him while he's puking his guts up fgs

If there was any situation for her to take advantage of, surely it would have been when they were together at the jacuzzi. I can't imagine she's that desperate that she'd try to seduce a drunken, vomiting mess with his head half in the toilet.

[Kazanne]

wow some of this is reeking of "she deserved to be raped because her skirt was too short" kind of crap :bored:

Well I'm not saying she deserved it,just that I'de be a bit more cautious around strangers.

[Niamh.]

If there was any situation for her to take advantage of, surely it would have been when they were together at the jacuzzi. I can't imagine she's that desperate that she'd try to seduce a drunken, vomiting mess with his head half in the toilet.

I know right? Jeremy was way out of line but the only thing I could say in his defense is that he seems to have serious mental issues, he doesn't seem to be seeing things in a real way and atleast he accepted that he was out of order as well. Not excusing what he did though and the only correct action was to remove him

[Jake.]

because she's a woman and apparently we're back in 1964

[Liam-]

Anyone that says Chloe was to blame to the situation is disgusting and deserves no respect whatsoever imo.

Jeremy obviously didn't mean to offend or upset Chloe, but he did, an inappropriate drunken mistake, which the only potential outcome was for him to be rightly removed.

But for anyone to lay any sort of blame at Chloe's feet is utterly repulsive.

[Pete.]

Poor Chloe

[daniel-lewis-1985]

wow some of this is reeking of "she deserved to be raped because her skirt was too short" kind of crap :bored:

Yup I agree I wasn't going to say it but that's what im getting from the forum to.

[Niamh.]

Yup I agree I wasn't going to say it but that's what im getting from the forum to.

plus people saying she shouldn't have put herself in that situation....what situation? since when is comforting someone who's sick ever considered a dangerous situation? :shrug:

[Jake.]

Honestly half of TiBB tonight is like reading Ken's mind

What the **** is going on?

[Jose Mourinho]

Did he rape her? All I heard was he tried to open her gown.. Not agreeing with what he did.. But I see this word "rape" being used here.. Same context or?

[rionablue]

Anyone that says Chloe was to blame to the situation is disgusting and deserves no respect whatsoever imo.

Jeremy obviously didn't mean to offend or upset Chloe, but he did, an inappropriate drunken mistake, which the only potential outcome was for him to be rightly removed.

But for anyone to lay any sort of blame at Chloe's feet is utterly repulsive.

I totally agree Liam

[Withano]

Big Brother fans are too stubborn. They can't see a contestant that they like in any other way than brilliant. The man literally deliberately attempted to make sexual advances on somebody and his behaviour should not be excused by anybody. It is disgusting that people are trying to blame anything but Jeremy.

[Jose Mourinho]

If there was any situation for her to take advantage of, surely it would have been when they were together at the jacuzzi. I can't imagine she's that desperate that she'd try to seduce a drunken, vomiting mess with his head half in the toilet.I've experienced similar things..Hes a decent looking bloke, women must flirt under many circumstances.

[Jose Mourinho]

Big Brother fans are too stubborn. They can't see a contestant that they like in any other way than brilliant. The man literally deliberately attempted to make sexual advances on somebody and his behaviour should not be excused by anybody. It is disgusting that people are trying to blame anything but Jeremy.Sexual advances.. how dare he!!! Back to the Convent children!!! AND DONT FORGET TO WASH BEHIND YOUR EARS!!!

[Withano]

It can't have even been a drunken mistake. I'm sure at least most of you know how sobering throwing up is after alcohol. The guy is just a prick who would have probably took it further if there wasn't microphones and she wasn't as firm.

[Withano]

Sexual advances.. how dare he!!! Back to the Convent children!!! AND DONT FORGET TO WASH BEHIND YOUR EARS!!!

Get a grip

[Niamh.]

Did he rape her? All I heard was he tried to open her gown.. Not agreeing with what he did.. But I see this word "rape" being used here.. Same context or?

I brought it up because the whole its her fault for not wearing more clothes is often used as a way of blaming victims of rape, that's what I was linking

[Jose Mourinho]

It can't have even been a drunken mistake. I'm sure at least most of you know how sobering throwing up is after alcohol. The guy is just a prick who would have probably took it further if there wasn't microphones and she wasn't as firm.As far as I know hes never been done for rape.

[newsbb]

SO,

The problem its not that she was naked, its the whole scenario, if there's any common sense, a girl wont get into a bathroom with a guy obviously drunk to try and help him, chances are, something will go wrong.

[Jose Mourinho]

I brought it up because the whole its her fault for not wearing more clothes is often used as a way of blaming victims of rape, that's what I was linkingNot blaming Chloe for anything.. I am just trying to see through the eyes of the clearly off his face Jeremy.

[Jose Mourinho]

SO,

The problem its not that she was naked, its the whole scenario, if there's any common sense, a girl wont get into a bathroom with a guy obviously drunk to try and help me, chances are, something will go wrong.Don't you think it might have been blown slightly out of proportion?

[Denver]

It can't have even been a drunken mistake. I'm sure at least most of you know how sobering throwing up is after alcohol. The guy is just a prick who would have probably took it further if there wasn't microphones and she wasn't as firm.

Slander is a criminal offence

[mr rochester]

plus people saying she shouldn't have put herself in that situation....what situation? since when is comforting someone who's sick ever considered a dangerous situation? :shrug:

Exactly!

[Niamh.]

Not blaming Chloe for anything.. I am just trying to see through the eyes of the clearly off his face Jeremy.

It's obvious that Jeremy was on the brink of some sort of a break down or something, he came across as very unstable, that's for sure. Even if it was a sexual advance on her becuase he misread the signals though, removing someones clothes usually wouldn't be the first step in that direction, it is a bit weird

[Jose Mourinho]

There was that moment after Jeremy's first trip to the diary room...after the incident... And they told him.. "We will wait until morning to decide" Now... at that point what were YOU thinking??? I'll TELL you.. you were probably thinking "OMG he is not out yet so WHAT did he get kicked for" Probably was because in fairness.. what he did was not much it ALL depended on how Chloe Handled it.

[Withano]

Slander is a criminal offence

You're 20 years old right? 21 if your birthday is early January. It's time to grow up Adam.

Your constant posts defending Jeremy's behaviour is frankly disturbing, if you're not going to watch the show objectively then that's fine. Each to their own. But to not comprehend what went on tonight and defend the behaviour which you clearly misinterpreted is just grotesque. I'd hate to think that you'd repeat any of Jeremy's actions but the way you defend him might suggest to people that you condone his actions. Think about your life right now..

[newsbb]

plus people saying she shouldn't have put herself in that situation....what situation? since when is comforting someone who's sick ever considered a dangerous situation? :shrug:

helping a drunk guy in a bathrobe with nothing under, i wouldt call it dangerous, of course not, but its deff. inappropiate.

[Jose Mourinho]

You're 20 years old right? 21 if your birthday is early January. It's time to grow up Adam.

Your constant posts defending Jeremy's behaviour is frankly disturbing, if you're not going to watch the show objectively then that's fine. Each to their own. But to not comprehend what went on tonight and defend the behaviour which you clearly misinterpreted is just grotesque. I'd hate to think that you'd repeat any of Jeremy's actions but the way you defend him might suggest to people that you condone his actions. Think about your life right now..Dude, he didn't even physically touch her.. just attempted to open her gown in a drunken state he actually thought he was in there mate, with her...

[Dollface]

I don't like Chloe but she most definitely wasn't to blame. Jeremy should not have touched her robe, but i do think Chloe's reaction was very dramatic/OTT. I've never been in her situation so i haven't a clue how i'd react if someone exposed my boob but i hope i wouldn't make that much of a fuss :umm2:
Saying that though, she did seem genuinely upset.

[MB.]

Slander is a criminal offence

And what would some of the things you've said about Chloe class as?

[Jose Mourinho]

I don't like Chloe but she most definitely wasn't to blame. Jeremy should not have touched her robe, but i do think Chloe's reaction was very dramatic/OTT. I've never been in her situation so i haven't a clue how i'd react if someone exposed my boob but i hope i wouldn't make that much of a fuss :umm2:
Saying that though, she did seem genuinely upset.THIS.. from what I believe is a woman.

[GiRTh]

Just watched it again. Its worse 2nd time round. HE really thought he hadnt done anything wrong even though he later apologizes. Chloe in the diary room appeared to start blaming herself mentioning that she used to do page three

[Niamh.]

helping a drunk guy in a bathrobe with nothing under, i wouldt call it dangerous, of course not, but its deff. inappropiate.

why is it inappropriate? it covers pretty much her whole body. I doubt she was thinking Oh I better put more clothes on incase someone tries to open my bath robe? The guy was puking his guts up in the toilet I seriously doubt the thought that he might make a pass at her even entered her mind, it wouldn't mine :shrug:

[rionablue]

There was that moment after Jeremy's first trip to the diary room...after the incident... And they told him.. "We will wait until morning to decide" Now... at that point what were YOU thinking??? I'll TELL you.. you were probably thinking "OMG he is not out yet so WHAT did he get kicked for" Probably was because in fairness.. what he did was not much it ALL depended on how Chloe Handled it.

he got kicked out MAINLY because some of most of the other housemates might not have been comfortable with him staying in there when he was on such a road to destruction INCLUDING Chloe. Ken should also have been kicked out tonight. His comments were UNFORGIVEABLE but hopefully the public will turf him out and boo the horrible little man into the middle of next week

[Withano]

Dude, he didn't even physically touch her.. just attempted to open her gown in a drunken state he actually thought he was in there mate, with her...

Don't call me dude as if we have some pre-existing friendship. I don't know you and I would not like to get to know you. He left the bathroom looking completely sober and I'm sure we can both agree he can't have been much more drunk at the time. Next time that you think that you're "in" with somebody "mate". you should probably go for a conversation about it or lean in for a kiss at the most because pulling down somebodys clothing is obviously vile and inappropriate and I feel sorry for every female who knows you if you disagree.

[Jose Mourinho]

Just watched it agasin. Its worse 2nd time round. HE really thought he hadnt done anything wrong even though he later apologizes. Chloe in the diary room appeared tpo start bleming herself metioningTBH man and I will be really honest here... Some girls you can do stuff like that too and they will respond.. Some you cannot..You will get slap.. The way Chloe is dressing in there would make one think she will respond.. Simple as that it kinda makes you think she will respond to stuff like that.

[GiRTh]

TBH man and I will be really honest here... Some girls you can do stuff like that too and they will respond.. Some you cannot..You will get slap.. The way Chloe is dressing in there would make one think she will respond.. Simple as that it kinda makes you think she will respond to stuff like that.Really? I'll take your word for it as I've never tried to touch a woman like that without permission.

[Jose Mourinho]

Really? I'll take your word for it as I've never tried to touch a woman like that without permission.Well hes not her bf, shes not his gf.. its on TV they both drunk..stuff like that happens... REALITY MATE. He did not touch her, only tried to open her robe...

[Niamh.]

Really? I'll take your word for it as I've never tried to touch a woman like that without permission.

Yeah, I never heard of taking a girls clothes off as a first move tbqh...

[Jose Mourinho]

Yeah, I never heard of taking a girls clothes off as a first move tbqh...Depends if he tried slow or fast.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Did he rape her? All I heard was he tried to open her gown.. Not agreeing with what he did.. But I see this word "rape" being used here.. Same context or?

Well the word rape is probably being thrown around because some people's reactions are in line with the slut-shaming, blame the victim rape culture that you perpetuate later on:

TBH man and I will be really honest here... Some girls you can do stuff like that too and they will respond.. Some you cannot..You will get slap.. The way Chloe is dressing in there would make one think she will respond.. Simple as that it kinda makes you think she will respond to stuff like that.

[Jose Mourinho]

Well the word rape is probably being thrown around because some people's reactions are in line with the slut-shaming, blame the victim rape culture that you perpetuate later on:LEGEND.

[GiRTh]

Yeah, I never heard of taking a girls clothes off as a first move tbqh...
I might go to Hooters and test the theory out. I think I'll get a slap TBH.

[Jose Mourinho]

I might go to Hooters and test the theory out. I think I'll get a slap TBH.You probably ill unless you got the looks :)

[Vicky.]

Meh. It does happen, quite a lot..a lot more often than it should. Personally I class groping someone as worse than touching their clothes, and people get groped on a regular basis when out on the piss. I am surprised if anyone has not experienced it before really. Maybe I'm just more gropeable than others or something...or maybe Newcastle just has more pervs than elsewhere :laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

Meh. It does happen, quite a lot..a lot more often than it should. Personally I class groping someone as worse than touching their clothes, and people get groped on a regular basis when out on the piss. I am surprised if anyone has not experienced it before really. Maybe I'm just more gropeable than others or something...or maybe Newcastle just has more pervs than elsewhere :laugh:Lol he didnt actually grope her.. now groping is different..

[Vicky.]

Lol he didnt actually grope her.. now groping is different..

I know.. :p

[Jose Mourinho]

I know.. :pHey he was off his face I seriously doubt hes a perv lol

[Jose Mourinho]

Well the word rape is probably being thrown around because some people's reactions are in line with the slut-shaming, blame the victim rape culture that you perpetuate later on:Never called her a slut tho.. Just said the way she dresses gives the impression you might get a response.. and look into your heart and be honest with yourself.

[Macie Lightfoot]

You don't have to call someone a slut to be slut-shaming.

[Jose Mourinho]

You don't have to call someone a slut to be slut-shaming.Well all I am saying is the way she is dressing which, lets be honest is bordering on triple x all I am saying is one might get the impression she is up for it.. Which in fairness.. one way or another she IS up for flaunting herself be it to one of the housemates or the public.

[Jose Mourinho]

I mean surely your sister dont walk around the house in bikini 90% of the time.. or wear a robe whilst bare naked underneath for what 50% of the day? CMON man.

[Niamh.]

So that gives men the right to remove her clothes without her permission? Wow

[Vicky.]

I mean surely your sister dont walk around the house in bikini 90% of the time.. or wear a robe whilst bare naked underneath for what 50% of the day? CMON man.

My brother literally spends all day in his tight white calvin klein boxers. I'm constantly telling him to get dressed but he has none of it. However I wouldn't expect people to be pulling his trunks down or something because of this :umm2:

[Dollface]

I mean surely your sister dont walk around the house in bikini 90% of the time.. or wear a robe whilst bare naked underneath for what 50% of the day? CMON man.

Tbh my sister does :laugh:

[Jose Mourinho]

So that gives men the right to remove her clothes without her permission? WowAgain pl dont make me have to reiterate my point and plz dont put words into my screentext.. All I am saying is... this can sometimes give the impression that she is the type of girl who would go for this thing.. he knows he does not have the right to remove any1s clothes.... But in a sexually heated encounter. In which he BELIEVES he was in.. things like that can happen.. its called human nature.. and sometimes the desire is/has been reciprocated.

[Jose Mourinho]

Tbh my sister does :laugh:LMAO

[Macie Lightfoot]

Well all I am saying is the way she is dressing which, lets be honest is bordering on triple x all I am saying is one might get the impression she is up for it.. Which in fairness.. one way or another she IS up for flaunting herself be it to one of the housemates or the public.

If that's what she's comfortable in then who cares? She shouldn't have to constantly be on guard, worried that people are going to grab at her and expose her.

[bots]

Well all I am saying is the way she is dressing which, lets be honest is bordering on triple x all I am saying is one might get the impression she is up for it.. Which in fairness.. one way or another she IS up for flaunting herself be it to one of the housemates or the public.

what show have you been watching? :laugh:

She is not naked you know... so triple x? Slight exaggeration. Every BB sees women in bikinis, she is doing nothing unusual and neither is she flaunting herself. Really can't believe this.

[Niamh.]

Sexually heated encounters as he's being sick in the bathroom :umm2:

[Macie Lightfoot]

Newsflash: we're all naked under what we're wearing.

[Udanax]

Newsflash: we're all naked under what we're wearing.

i ****ing died

[Jules2]

Jeremy was obviously out of line but I felt sorry for him in the DR, he obviously has personal issues which he is trying to work out. Too much fuss altogether really imo as it has divided public opinion and may not do either of them any good, time will tell. Possibly he should have been left to his own fate in the loo or alternatively where were the men? Possibly to busy chatting about him behind his back?

[MB.]

People's horror at somebody wearing a bathrobe at night... :umm2:

Anyway, it's bound to only be a couple of hours until a certain someone gets banned - no point trying to argue with someone who's only here to blatantly insult other people, which is pretty much one of the very first rules of the forum.

[Jose Mourinho]

People's horror at somebody wearing a bathrobe at night... :umm2:

Anyway, it's bound to only be a couple of hours until a certain someone gets banned - no point trying to argue with someone who's only here to blatantly insult other people, which is pretty much one of the very first rules of the forum.Horror? Wrongword.com... Read this thread before you make a post directed at me or I will be as rude to you as you have been to me.

[Daniel.]

I'm gorgeous

[LukeB]

To blame Chloe for it is really not fair to be honest, Big Brother was right to remove him because are we forgetting he has issues with Alcohol? Big Brother wants the housemates to be safe. Chloe was being a really nice person being there for him when he was being sick in the toilet. She did not invite him to do what he did. She did look angry and then she cried, maybe she was scared. But Chloe was not to blame for this.

[Ammi]

..it really doesn't matter what clothes she had on underneath the robe..even if it was nakedness she had the robe on to cover that nakedness and no one has the right to uncover her...and would we have even known that she was naked under her robe unless this happened..?..no because she was perfectly well covered up...

[sazmaz1]

not so much that she should of had more clothes on underneath, but that she should of thought far more carefully than to put her breasts in the face of a clearly intoxicated man, weather intentional or not, she should of had more nouse and has ruined this guys life by her silly immature reaction. dont put your boobs in someones face and complain when he wants to have a peek! stupid stupid girl.

[sazmaz1]

also. if she felt THAT violated why did she continue to wander round in said dressing gown? still naked underneath,wouldnt you have gone and found clothes to cover up in if you had felt so vulnerable? just a thought.

[Macie Lightfoot]

You lost me at "should of"

[Jose Mourinho]

wow some of this is reeking of "she deserved to be raped because her skirt was too short" kind of crap :bored:Don't go OTT on what actually happened to her.. if she was RAPED.. NOONE here would accept that..PERIOD.. It was ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE near rape infact plz dont use that word when discussing this event.

[Jose Mourinho]

[QUOTE=Jose Mourinho;7472301]Yeah hes back.

[Jose Mourinho]

You lost me at "should of"Hey grammar man, work on your experiences in life and then make some meaningful posts, rather than simply posting absolute crap.

[Macie Lightfoot]

<3 <3 <3 Our Savior has returned <3 <3 <3

[Jose Mourinho]

<3 <3 <3 Our Savior has returned <3 <3 <3Ready to debate now? Or you gonna go crying to the mods again?

[Jose Mourinho]

I well and truly await your cowardly response.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Ready to debate now? Or you gonna go crying to the mods again?

alol I never cry to the mods :joker: I fight with then more often than not

[Jose Mourinho]

alol I never cry to the mods :joker: I fight with then more often than notDoubt that.

[Black Dagger]

The Special One vs Queen Macie is my favourite feud on the forum rn.

[Jose Mourinho]

Grammar man lost his tongue..More reporting inc? LOL!

[Jose Mourinho]

The Special One vs Queen Macie is my favourite feud on the forum rn.He don't really debate infact right now he is not replying (There is that long silence from him a yesterday) because he is busy reporting me.

[Jose Mourinho]

If I get banned for expressing my views as politely as I can.. Until goaded into acting off character.. then there is something seriously wrong with the place.. I am going to sleep I await any replies.

[Ammi]

..you say that you're being goaded but you also say that you're awaiting replies, so isn't that in itself goading also...if someone isn't replying then why not leave it at that...

[duclos]

People's horror at somebody wearing a bathrobe at night... :umm2:


Hahaha people acting OTT because Chloe was wearing a bathrobe

[Ammi]

...wearing a bathrobe is not provocative at all and even though it's irrelevant, there may have been reasons why she was naked underneath/she may just have got out of the shower etc and Jeremy being sick became a priority over putting anything else on because she was trying to help him...

[Jose Mourinho]

...wearing a bathrobe is not provocative at all and even though it's irrelevant, there may have been reasons why she was naked underneath/she may just have got out of the shower etc and Jeremy being sick became a priority over putting anything else on because she was trying to help him...I did a "Makvelli" I not actually in bed yet.. Listen..lets cut the crap and get to the facts.

1.She was naked under that robe.. No matter what you say.
2. He was off his face with drink (Not in a position to make true judgements of situations)
3. she leant in toward him like (He thought she was coming onto him)
4. he made a harmless ( MISJUDGED advance no body touching was involved) and I think Chloe overreacted. Just my opinion.
5. being dressed the way she was is not irrelevant. (as a heterosexual man if I see a page 3 capable girl dressed the way she was as close to me as that sorry but I am going to be a bit wel,l attracted .. I am only human)

[Macie Lightfoot]

Sorry to break it to ya but I don't really care enough about anyone here to report them for anything :joker:

And again, everyone's naked under the clothes they're wearing. Being drunk isn't an excuse etc.

[Jose Mourinho]

Sorry to break it to ya but I don't really care enough about anyone here to report them for anything :joker:

And again, everyone's naked under the clothes they're wearing. Being drunk isn't an excuse etc.


Noone says what he did was right... All along I am simply trying to explain why what he did was not as bad as people like you are trying to make out, what you simply looking for an argument? Or attention?

[Shaun]

I'm confused as to why people are still trying to justify his actions when he himself has apologised for them.

[Jose Mourinho]

I'm confused as to why people are still trying to justify his actions when he himself has apologised for them.He was drunk.. Noone is defending what he did... In the end NOONE is perfect. I am trying to explain why he did what he did, I am not trying to defend what he did nor have I ever tried to unlike some idiots here try to make out as if I did.

[Jose Mourinho]

[QUOTE=Jose Mourinho;7472339]People go read the whole thread.

[Jose Mourinho]

Sorry to break it to ya but I don't really care enough about anyone here to report them for anything :joker:

And again, everyone's naked under the clothes they're wearing. Being drunk isn't an excuse etc.Dishonest people like you truly make me cringe/puke.

[Ammi]

I did a "Makvelli" I not actually in bed yet.. Listen..lets cut the crap and get to the facts.

1.She was naked under that robe.. No matter what you say.
2. He was off his face with drink (Not in a position to make true judgements of situations)
3. she leant in toward him like (He thought she was coming onto him)
4. he made a harmless ( MISJUDGED advance no body touching was involved) and I think Chloe overreacted. Just my opinion.


..yeah she was naked under the robe but many people do that, put a robe on after a shower etc...that's not provocative at all and I doubt that when she went to help him that there was a conscious thought of...oh hang on, I'm naked under this and even though he's being sick in the loo, he may misinterpret this because even if he hadn't been so drunk and ill...?...there are many, many housemates in the past who have gone into the loo together and felt perfectly safe in doing that...she said she leaned across him/not into him so still nothing provocative and there had been no previous flirting or anything between them so why also would that be misinterpreted...I don't think she over-reacted, I think her reaction was completely understandable with the shock of him doing what he did...I don't think that it's automatic that a drunk guy would assume to do what he did just because he was drunk..pulling her robe back was definitely an act that would make her feel vulnerable and he had no right to do it and no excuse...I do think though that there were other factors involved in BB removing him and it was the right decision because he just wasn't in a good place to be in that type of stressed environment...

[Jose Mourinho]

..yeah she was naked under the robe but many people do that, put a robe on after a shower etc...that's not provocative at all and I doubt that when she went to help him that there was a conscious thought of...oh hang on, I'm naked under this and even though he's being sick in the loo, he may misinterpret this because even if he hadn't been so drunk and ill...?...there are many, many housemates in the past who have gone into the loo together and felt perfectly safe in doing that...she said she leaned across him/not into him so still nothing provocative and there had been no previous flirting or anything between them so why also would that be misinterpreted...I don't think she over-reacted, I think her reaction was completely understandable with the shock of him doing what he did...I don't think that it's automatic that a drunk guy would assume to do what he did just because he was drunk..pulling her robe back was definitely an act that would make her feel vulnerable and he had no right to do it and no excuse...I do think though that there were other factors involved in BB removing him and it was the right decision because he just wasn't in a good place to be in that type of stressed environment...Right where I come from..when a guy is THAT DRUNK he is without doubt in a predicament where his judgement is IMPAIRED.... Would he have done that id sober? Do I really need to answer this.. look into your heart and ask yourself. And be honest. He is not a perv nor a bad person.. Just a bit unstable and was drunk. NOONE says what he did was right nor do I expect ANY woman to feel comfortable with that pretty much IN YOUR FACE attempt at getting some (Unless of course she wanted that) You need to think about it more.

The reason I feel so strongly is because well in my opinion she went a bit OTT, think if he had done that to Cami? He would probably have simply got a slap face or hand.. nothing would have been made of it.. Not saying Chloe is not affected she might well be, but for God sake dont treat the man like he raped her cos of THAT reaction.. THINK ABOUT IT PLEASE.

[Jose Mourinho]

Any way now im really goin to bed thanks for the debate (Ammi only) take are CYA.

[Ammi]

Right where I come from..when a guy is THAT DRUNK he is without doubt in a predicament where his judgement is IMPAIRED.... Would he have done that id sober? Do I really need to answer this.. look into your heart and ask yourself. And be honest. He is not a perv nor a bad person.. Just a bit unstable and was drunk. NOONE says what he did was right nor do I expect ANY woman to feel comfortable with that pretty much IN YOUR FACE attempt at getting some (Unless of course she wanted that) You need to think about it more.

..no I don't think that he is a bad person, I don't think that he's mentally well atm though and especially enough to have gone on BB..but whatever the circumstances, the effect on Chloe is no lesser...what's annoying as well though..(and this isn't you but in general I mean..)...is that if a guy is drunk..?..then he can't be blamed for misjudging a situation etc, whereas if a female is drunk and then does get sexually assaulted because of her vulnerability...it's quite often seen as...well she should never have got that drunk/put herself in that situation...blame just so often is cast at the female, whatever the situation...

[Jose Mourinho]

..no I don't think that he is a bad person, I don't think that he's mentally well atm though and especially enough to have gone on BB..but whatever the circumstances, the effect on Chloe is no lesser...what's annoying as well though..(and this isn't you but in general I mean..)...is that if a guy is drunk..?..then he can't be blamed for misjudging a situation etc, whereas if a female is drunk and then does get sexually assaulted because of her vulnerability...it's quite often seen as...well she should never have got that drunk/put herself in that situation...blame just so often is cast at the female, whatever the situation...Right I am actually in bed on my mobile now,DO NOT, compare that incident to sexual assault/ rape they are two
Completely different things. I would not be trying to explain why anyone would sexually assault/ rape someone, there is no place in the world for such behaviour,drunk or not. PLZ dont compare Jeremyville to anything of that nature.

[Jose Mourinho]

Now I am going to sleep lol DO NOT COMPARE IT TO STUFF LIKE THAT!! PEACE.

[Ammi]

Right I am actually in bed on my mobile now,DO NOT, compare that incident to sexual assault/ rape they are two
Completely different things. I would not be trying to explain why anyone would sexually assault/ rape someone, there is no place in the world for such behaviour,drunk or not. PLZ dont compare Jeremyville to anything of that nature.

..of course it's not that extreme but it's still the analogy though of alcohol not being an excuse because it really isn't...there are many, many guys who would never have done what he did regardless of how much they had drunk..it would just not be in their mind-set at all..I do have sympathies for the bad pace he seems to be in atm but it could not be and can never be excused or acceptable, however drunk he was...anyway, yeah...you have a good sleep...

[G1dds]

The fact that this incident is being compared to rape is sickening quite frankly. No one said he was right to open her dressing gown but surely she shouldn't have acted like she was sexy all assaulted to the point of hyperventilating.

He saw a boob and that's it. She should have bullocked him for doing it, they both should have been embarrassed for different reasons, he should have been given a warning by BB, but that's it - end of

She's not a rape victim, she wasn't indecently assaulted and it's driving me mental that it has been heightened into this ...... and I don't even like the bloke!!

[Udanax]

Yeah hes back.

Best TIBB post ever?

[unoino]

If ch5 are going to start evicting people then Chloe (the drama queen) should be first on the list..even in latest episode she admitted Jeremy made a mistake and she hopes to sort things out...well well well...bit different from floods of tears the night before..she obviously used this situ to get him out and idiots bought it...ok ch5 ...she housemate no3 who needs to go.

[Niamh.]

If ch5 are going to start evicting people then Chloe (the drama queen) should be first on the list..even in latest episode she admitted Jeremy made a mistake and dhe hopes to sort things out...well well well...bit different from floods of tears the night before..she obviously used this situ to get him out and ifiots bought it...ok ch5 ...she housemate no3 who needs to go.

Yeah kick her out because she got a shock when someone she barely knew exposed her breast....

[Ammi]

Niamh are you a complete arse...she was over him with her tits almost out..he was drunk..he didnt swipe open her gown he moved it..he daid he was wrong but hes not a rapist niether was it an assault..wot it was though is a ploy by Chloe to get the guy out she could of manned up and daid piss u perv...but no like the drama queen she is..she almost implied he raped her...bet if it was Callun in the loo shed of had that gown off in a flash...pathetic!

..she didn't imply rape though, she said exactly what happened with her robe and he also confirmed that he did exactly what she said he did...there were no implications of anything else from her...