Offended by being called 'a Moroccan *****'...

[rusticgal]

Pretty rich coming from the very person showing her vaginal tattoo to someone she has only just met....on National television. Hypocritical tart!!!

[MTVN]

That isn't hypocrisy

[Jake.]

That isn't hypocrisy

This.

Oh and let's stop with whatever this attempt at 'women shaming' is. The amount we've had tonight has been disgusting enough

[Shaun]

Yeah generally speaking hypocrisy is when a person holds two contrasting views that're directly connected but OK.

(Out of interest - who did she say said this? Because this is one of the few things I think Ken didn't say, so another to add to the list would be quite alarming :laugh:)

[MB.]

Yes, I forgot that part of the episode where Cami had sex with Perez for money,

[Kazanne]

Pretty rich coming from the very person showing her vaginal tattoo to someone she has only just met....on National television. Hypocritical tart!!!

Yes she does have that tarty side to her,I think she's awful

[MTVN]

Yeah generally speaking hypocrisy is when a person holds two contrasting views that're directly connected but OK.

(Out of interest - who did she say said this? Because this is one of the few things I think Ken didn't say, so another to add to the list would be quite alarming :laugh:)

I didn't hear it at the time but did Ken say afterwards that he'd been referring to her dress saying it was half Moroccan, half slut, or something like that

[bots]

She puts herself out there as someone who doesn't stand for any cr**, showed of an intimate tattoo, flirted with a housemate or 2 - i'm not a fan and will be happy to see her out quickly. Not surprised a hm (Ken) made some sort of comment

[Ant.]

Showing someone a tattoo =/= a slur used to shame someone who has a lot of sex

[jennyjuniper]

I didn't hear it at the time but did Ken say afterwards that he'd been referring to her dress saying it was half Moroccan, half slut, or something like that

Yes that's what he said. I don't like Ken very much, but he didn't call her a *****, just her dress.:shrug:

[thinkingoutloud]

Truth hurts I guess.

[chuff me dizzy]

Pretty rich coming from the very person showing her vaginal tattoo to someone she has only just met....on National television. Hypocritical tart!!!

:clap1:

[Jake.]

Last time I checked having a tattoo didn't indicate how many people a person has left with, so yeah, she's within her every right to find Ken's comments offensive.

[chuff me dizzy]

Last time I checked having a tattoo didn't indicate how many people a person has left with, so yeah, she's within her every right to find Ken's comments offensive.

Showing a stranger a tattoo on your mucky Mary on national Tv ,doesn't exactly make you Mary Poppins either

[Jake.]

Showing a stranger a tattoo on your mucky Mary on national Tv ,doesn't exactly make you Mary Poppins either

But a *****? Unless Ken is aware of all of her previous sexual experiences, he has no idea what he's talking about

[Cherie]

Showing a stranger a tattoo on your mucky Mary on national Tv ,doesn't exactly make you Mary Poppins either

:laugh: Chuff where do you get these from

[Raph]

I disagree with your hypocrisy comment but I personally did laugh at Ken's comment, just at how absurdly crude it was I guess :tongue:

[chuff me dizzy]

:laugh: Chuff where do you get these from

Its such a sweet name isn't it ? :joker:

[Mick]

I do not know anything about her past and find the tattoos unattractive but joke or not I feel she has a right to object to being called a *****.

[Kazanne]

But a *****? Unless Ken is aware of all of her previous sexual experiences, he has no idea what he's talking about

He didn't call her that I don't think,he was alluding to her dress.:shrug:

[Kazanne]

Showing a stranger a tattoo on your mucky Mary on national Tv ,doesn't exactly make you Mary Poppins either

:joker::joker::joker:

[BeloTheBelt]

Having watched the highlights show I thought it very much looked like it was Kavana (messing about) who said the line and not Ken who was stood next to him

[armand.kay]

He didn't call her that I don't think,he was alluding to her dress.:shrug:

He said she's half Moroccan half *****.

[Kazanne]

He said she's half Moroccan half *****.

Are you sure about that,as I was pretty sure he was commenting on her dress,anyone got a video of that?

[chuff me dizzy]

It's sad when some of the most misogynistic views in a thread are held by other women.

She showed a gay guy a tattoo, it wasn't a sexual act in any way and it's not much different to similar incidents in previous BBs when women have let the resident gays have a feel of their implants or something.

On national tv

[Firewire]

Are you sure about that,as I was pretty sure he was commenting on her dress,anyone got a video of that?

He said "half Hindu princess, half slut" as far as I'm aware. He later said he was referring to her dress. She was still wearing the dress though. She was right to be offended.

[Firewire]

On national tv

Yes but the public did not see the tattoo. I don't see the problem here.

[chuff me dizzy]

Are you sure about that,as I was pretty sure he was commenting on her dress,anyone got a video of that?

He was talking about the dress, but Hey Ho if the cap fits and all that :idc:

[armand.kay]

Are you sure about that,as I was pretty sure he was commenting on her dress,anyone got a video of that?

Yeah big brother even mentioned it when he was getting told off.

[Razor]

She should be used to being called stuff like this, she is far from classy.

[Firewire]

She should be used to being called stuff like this, she is far from classy.

And that makes it okay to insult someone?

[MTVN]

It's not even like she made that big a deal of it really, she was a bit surprised so told a couple of her friends but then told Chloe that it doesn't matter when she tried to probe further about it, then even with her nomination reason she just said "I don't think he likes me, he makes fun of me". Wasn't exactly calling for him to be publicly hung and it's a bit dumb to be attacking her about it when she was the one insulted.

[chuff me dizzy]

She should be used to being called stuff like this, she is far from classy.

Rough as a butchers dog

[Razor]

And that makes it okay to insult someone?


If she was bothered she wouldn't act the way she does.

[mr rochester]

I didn't hear it at the time but did Ken say afterwards that he'd been referring to her dress saying it was half Moroccan, half slut, or something like that

I think he said half hindu princess half slut…

If he said Good Morning I would still think he was vile…

He is an egomaniac and more people need to take him on - where has he been for the last 20 years? On planet Ken - population 1...

[Firewire]

If she was bothered she wouldn't act the way she does.

She wasn't acting in any way. She was wearing a dress she liked. The comment was absolutely unwarranted. Don't blame her.

[Pete.]

Praying for Cami

[Razor]

She wasn't acting in any way. She was wearing a dress she liked. The comment was absolutely unwarranted. Don't blame her.

Have you been watching a different show to everyone else. She has had her tits hanging out for most of it, is covered in tramp stamps and has a loud vulgar mouth hardly what you would call a classy women. I would also put money on it that she has been called stuff like this before. As they say there is no smoke without fire. The comment made was out of order in that it was rude but it wasnt a lie.

[Firewire]

Have you been watching a different show to everyone else. She has had her tits hanging out for most of it, is covered in tramp stamps and has a loud vulgar mouth hardly what you would call a classy women. I would also put money on it that she has been called stuff like this before. As they say there is no smoke without fire. The comment made was out of order in that it was rude but it wasnt a lie.

It was completely a lie. He called her a slut. She's not a slut. Wearing little clothes is not what a "slut" is. Stop shaming her.

[Razor]

It was completely a lie. He called her a slut. She's not a slut. Wearing little clothes is not what a "slut" is. Stop shaming her.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: She is a slut deal with it.

[Suze]

I don't know why, but this keeps making me remember the Leslie and Frenchy row from the last CBB :D

[Kazanne]

People can deny all they want , but you get judged on your appearance whether that is right or wrong,from the moment Cami entered she has had her T&A out,I mean who with any class walks around a bedroom full of strangers in that black knicker thing she was in last night,that's not worn for comfort it's worn to get attention,I wouldn't go so far to call her a slut,but she definitely knows what she is doing and it isn't classy,but some people like those sorts so it's all good.

[Razor]

People can deny all they want , but you get judged on your appearance whether that is right or wrong,from the moment Cami entered she has had her T&A out,I mean who with any class walks around a bedroom full of strangers in that black knicker thing she was in last night,that's not worn for comfort it's worn to get attention,I wouldn't go so far to call her a slut,but she definitely knows what she is doing and it isn't classy,but some people like those sorts so it's all good.



Come on the first thing she said up on entering the house was about sitting on someones dick how is that not slutty?




+1

[Firewire]

Come on the first thing she said up on entering the house was about sitting on someones dick how is that not slutty?

Because since when did having sex with one person make a person a slut?

[Kizzy]

Is that the bog eyed fugly girl that keeps threatening to hit people?... :/

[Liam-]

So a girl who is comfortable enough with her body to walk around in a bikini and isn't ashamed to do so, should expect to have abusive names hurled at her?

Welcome to the 50's folks, where misogyny is rife and clearly acceptable as long as the girl is young, beautiful and has big breasts.

[Denver]

Because since when did having sex with one person make a person a slut?

Why tell a house full of strangers that? She doesnt like Ken as she cant get his dick and she wont let any woman around callum

[Kazanne]

Is that the bog eyed fugly girl that keeps threatening to hit people?... :/

:joker: I think that's the very one

[Kazanne]

So a girl who is comfortable enough with her body to walk around in a bikini and isn't ashamed to do so, should expect to have abusive names hurled at her?

Welcome to the 50's folks, where misogyny is rife and clearly acceptable as long as the girl is young, beautiful and has big breasts.

I think those big breasts are blinding you,no ones said anything as far as I know about her walking round in a bikini :hehe:

[Firewire]

Why tell a house full of strangers that? She doesnt like Ken as she cant get his dick and she wont let any woman around callum

Don't be so disgusting. Ken was offensive to her. Cami had not said anything to him before that, unless I'm missing something. She lets every woman near Calum, I think I've seen most women have a conversation with him.

[Denver]

Don't be so disgusting. Ken was offensive to her. Cami had not said anything to him before that, unless I'm missing something. She lets every woman near Calum, I think I've seen most women have a conversation with him.

She took an instant dislike to Ken simple she will always be a nobody

[Firewire]

She took an instant dislike to Ken simple she will always be a nobody

She may be a nobody but doesn't mean she shouldn't be treated with respect.

[Denver]

She may be a nobody but doesn't mean she shouldn't be treated with respect.

You have to earn respect it cant be demanded

[Tip]

She's a slut! Oh no she isn't! Oh yes she is! Oh no she isn't!

Good old repetitive BB panto -but not the most interesting of debates.

[Firewire]

You have to earn respect it cant be demanded

Everyone or just women?

[Denver]

Everyone or just women?

Everyone

[Northern Monkey]

Thought it was quite amusing tbh.She could've called him some names back if she was that pissed about it.

[MTVN]

People have a right to automatically be treated with respect, it's not something you demand they 'earn' through behaving in the 'proper' way. If that's how it works then you're not going to be respecting many people, and maybe such an attitude will mean you don't earn the respect of many others. It's not like there is one 'right' way to behave that everyone must aspire to, people are free to make different lifestyle choices with how they act, how they dress and how they behave.

[Firewire]

People have a right to automatically be treated with respect, it's not something you demand they 'earn' through behaving in the 'proper' way. If that's how it works then you're not going to be respecting many people, and maybe such an attitude will mean you don't earn the respect of many others. It's not like there is one 'right' way to behave that everyone must aspire to, people are free to make different lifestyle choices with how they act, how they dress and how they behave.

:clap1:

[Northern Monkey]

People have a right to automatically be treated with respect, it's not something you demand they 'earn' through behaving in the 'proper' way. If that's how it works then you're not going to be respecting many people, and maybe such an attitude will mean you don't earn the respect of many others. It's not like there is one 'right' way to behave that everyone must aspire to, people are free to make different lifestyle choices with how they act, how they dress and how they behave.

You're right but in life and certainly in BB people don't always treat each other with respect.I mean look how much respect Helen showed to people when she was in and many other hm's in the past.It is reality tv afterall.

[Denver]

I am equally saddened that as a moderator you seem to be flouting the rules pertaining to posting about forum members and not sticking to discussing HMs.

:clap1:

[Denver]

People have a right to automatically be treated with respect, it's not something you demand they 'earn' through behaving in the 'proper' way. If that's how it works then you're not going to be respecting many people, and maybe such an attitude will mean you don't earn the respect of many others. It's not like there is one 'right' way to behave that everyone must aspire to, people are free to make different lifestyle choices with how they act, how they dress and how they behave.

Did you not see the way she spoke to him during Noms?

[Firewire]

Did you not see the way she spoke to him during Noms?

Ken disrespected her first.

[Cal.]

Lmfao grow up kiddo. Your comment was retarded, you don't even know me.

Ohhttp://i.imgur.com/aGeXVvR.jpg

[Denver]

Ken disrespected her first.

No her nom came first

[Liam-]

No her nom came first

No it didn't lmao, he called her a 'half hindu princess, half slut' way before nominations :umm2:

[Firewire]

No her nom came first

No it didn't... his comment was in the day. Nominations were at night.

[Denver]

No it didn't lmao, he called her a 'half hindu princess, half slut' way before nominations :umm2:

He never said hindu

[Firewire]

He never said hindu

yes he did

also, calling her a hindu princess is not offensive, so why would that even matter?

[Liam-]

He never said hindu

Yes he did..

[MTVN]

Did you not see the way she spoke to him during Noms?

To Ken? She only really said "I don't think he likes me, he makes fun of me" which isn't that bad. And it was after he'd been quite offensive to her so fairly understandable

[Denver]

Yes he did..

Either way he didnt call it her

[Liam-]

Either way he didnt call it her

What are you talking about?.. first you say he didn't say it, but once you know he did, he didn't call her it? :unsure:

He called her than and you know it, the fact that you're trying to defend him, to me, is frankly disgusting and highly disturbing.

[Denver]

What are you talking about?.. first you say he didn't say it, but once you know he did, he didn't call her it? :unsure:

He called her than and you know it, the fact that you're trying to defend him, to me, is frankly disgusting and highly disturbing.

He stated he was talking about the dress your the one who is making it in to something else

[Liam-]

He stated he was talking about the dress your the one who is making it in to something else

Oh yes, because a dress is very capable of being a hindu princess and a slut.. it was an old bigoted man trying to cover his ass and get away with his disgusting comments.

[Denver]

Oh yes, because a dress is very capable of being a hindu princess and a slut.. it was an old bigoted man trying to cover his ass and get away with his disgusting comments.

Yet again only you can be right maybe one day you will understand that the grass isnt always greenier on the other side

[Liam-]

Yet again only you can be right maybe one day you will understand that the grass isnt always greenier on the other side

Oh im sorry, am i supposed to state an opinion and not believe in it? That's more a Hoppo thing to do.

I seriously don't understand what that's supposed to mean.. we're having a discussion about our opinions, of course i think I'm right and that you;re wrong, because my opinion is my own and i disagree with yours, that is how a discussion works.. stick to the topic and stop getting personal :umm2:

[rionablue]

Oh im sorry, am i supposed to state an opinion and not believe in it? That's more a Hoppo thing to do.

I seriously don't understand what that's supposed to mean.. we're having a discussion about our opinions, of course i think I'm right and that you;re wrong, because my opinion is my own and i disagree with yours, that is how a discussion works.. stick to the topic and stop getting personal :umm2:

I think you are right also Liam and that he is wrong. Just by the way

[Denver]

Oh im sorry, am i supposed to state an opinion and not believe in it? That's more a Hoppo thing to do.

I seriously don't understand what that's supposed to mean.. we're having a discussion about our opinions, of course i think I'm right and that you;re wrong, because my opinion is my own and i disagree with yours, that is how a discussion works.. stick to the topic and stop getting personal :umm2:

No you state your opinion and dont allow anyone there own opinion

[Denver]

Has anybody heard the saying 'dont dress like a slut you wont get called a slut'?

[Liam-]

No you state your opinion and dont allow anyone there own opinion

:joker:

Has anybody heard the saying 'dont dress like a slut you wont get called a slut'?

I have, mainly said by misogynistic men who think they own women and can call them whatever they want and threat them like dirt

[Kazanne]

:hehe:I think Cami would be more offended if she was overlooked tbh

[Denver]

:joker:



I have, mainly said by misogynistic men who think they own women and can call them whatever they want and threat them like dirt

But its alright for woman to call men what they want? Oh whats that i hear double standards and FYI woman are misogynistic just as much but its over looked

[Kyle]

Has anybody heard the saying 'dont dress like a slut you wont get called a slut'?

http://kingpinchic.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/redneck4.jpg

[Kazanne]

http://kingpinchic.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/redneck4.jpg

:joker::joker: He looks a right old tart

[Liam-]

But its alright for woman to call men what they want? Oh whats that i hear double standards and FYI woman are misogynistic just as much but its over looked

When did i ever say that? please don't words in my mouth please, it's just desperate.

It's not okay for anyone to make such comments about anyone else, whether it's coming from a man or a woman, but to back someone in the 'slut shaming' of a woman, just to try and prove a terribly misguided point, is pathetic.

[sampvt]

http://kingpinchic.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/redneck4.jpg

Kyle is that recent photo of you or an old one, :joker:

[Denver]

When did i ever say that? please don't words in my mouth please, it's just desperate.

It's not okay for anyone to make such comments about anyone else, whether it's coming from a man or a woman, but to back someone in the 'slut shaming' of a woman, just to try and prove a terribly misguided point, is pathetic.

She is not innocent herself

[Liam-]

She is not innocent herself

She wore a bikini around the house and went in wearing a low cut dress, showed one of her tattoos to a gay man, which obviously wasn't a sexual thing in any way shape or form, explain to me what she has done to earn herself the rather disgusting title of 'slut'?

[Vicky.]

Tbh I dont understand people getting offended over stuff like this, I just let it go over my head :shrug:

But I dont really see how someone else calling her something has much to do with what she choses to do with her own body

[Denver]

She wore a bikini around the house and went in wearing a low cut dress, showed one of her tattoos to a gay man, which obviously wasn't a sexual thing in any way shape or form, explain to me what she has done to earn herself the rather disgusting title of 'slut'?

If she wants to openly say what she likes to do in bed then she will get deemed a slut as a man would be deemed seedy

[Liam-]

If she wants to openly say what she likes to do in bed then she will get deemed a slut as a man would be deemed seedy

When did she say what she likes to do in bed? :umm2:

The question is, would you deem a man a slut if he said what he liked to do in bed? or would it just be 'boys being boys'?

[Denver]

When did she say what she likes to do in bed? :umm2:

The question is, would you deem a man a slut if he said what he liked to do in bed? or would it just be 'boys being boys'?

READ MY POST

I said Men would be called seedy

did you not hear her talk about sitting on dick?

[chuff me dizzy]

She took an instant dislike to Ken simple she will always be a nobody

:clap1: Famous for sod all apart from having a tattoo on her arse and Mucky Mary !!

[chuff me dizzy]

READ MY POST

I said Men would be called seedy

did you not hear her talk about sitting on dick?

I heard her ,so classy ( not)

[Liam-]

I can't even be bothered arguing anymore, some of the things I'm reading are disturbing the **** out of me, I'll probably lose my mind and my remaining brain cells if i carry on reading it.

[Jules2]

Yeah generally speaking hypocrisy is when a person holds two contrasting views that're directly connected but OK.sl

(Out of interest - who did she say said this? Because this is one of the few things I think Ken didn't say, so another to add to the list would be quite alarming :laugh:)

He definitely said something but I dont think the word was *****, maybe it was slag? He is totally obnoxious tbh imo. Hopefully he will go on Tuesday, he is a little bit like a puppy dog following the lassies around......

[puzzled]

What nonsense for him to say he said it about her dress. How the hell can a dress be a slut? As far as the dick statement, that was crude. She's crude, he's vile. I'd rather hang out with crude than vile.

[rionablue]

I can't even be bothered arguing anymore, some of the things I'm reading are disturbing the **** out of me, I'll probably lose my mind and my remaining brain cells if i carry on reading it.

There are many forum members including myself that support your views Liam so you are not alone. As a matter of fact its the people who are calling her a slut are the minor percentage in here from what I can see Thankfully

[sampvt]

:clap1: Famous for sod all apart from having a tattoo on her arse and Mucky Mary !!

Classic and don't forget the chiselled down teeth that look like falsies.

[wendywillow]

ken is an ass (a funny ass sometimes but still an ass) but why is cami getting attacked here when she didn't complain to bb or anything, hes the one who said it. I think hes got a deadpan sense of humor but you can't be shocked when you call a woman (or her dress?) a slut and she gets a little offended. never mind how many tattoos she has...

ps they put a hot tub in there for a reason. the hot chicks are supposed to put on their bikinis and prance around. you cant attack them for that for gods sake

[The Penguin]

Most of the *****s I encountered in Marrakesh had far more artistic tattoos

[wendywillow]

details? (-:

[Miranda123]

Pretty rich coming from the very person showing her vaginal tattoo to someone she has only just met....on National television. Hypocritical tart!!!

she shows a gay guy her tattoo and so she's a *****??

[rusticgal]

she shows a gay guy her tattoo and so she's a *****??

are you drunk?

Where did I call her a *****? Please refrain from mis-quoting me Miranda...

[Niamh.]

Yeah generally speaking hypocrisy is when a person holds two contrasting views that're directly connected but OK.

(Out of interest - who did she say said this? Because this is one of the few things I think Ken didn't say, so another to add to the list would be quite alarming :laugh:)

They didn't show him saying it but I think they showed Michelle or Nadia talking to him about it so he must have said it but it wasn't shown on HLs

[Niamh.]

Where did I call her a *****? Please refrain from mis-quoting me Miranda...

You didn't personally call her a ***** but your thread topic is that she has no right to be offended if someone calls her a ***** because she showed Perez that tattoo so Mirandas point is pretty spot on, she never said you called her a *****

[rusticgal]

You didn't personally call her a ***** but your thread topic is that she has no right to be offended if someone calls her a ***** because she showed Perez that tattoo so Mirandas point is pretty spot on, she never said you called her a *****

I m not calling her a *****...and neither did Ken. Miranda seemed to imply I had and then went on to insult my mentality as to whether I was under the influence of alcohol.
My point was that she was offended by Kens remarks about her dress sense made her look like a Moroccan *****.... Unyet she is crude enough as a young lady to go showing her most private parts to anyone who wanted to look having only known them for two days....it kinda doesn't go hand in hand...that was my point.

[Patricia4]

Showing a stranger a tattoo on your mucky Mary on national Tv ,doesn't exactly make you Mary Poppins either

:joker:

[Niamh.]

I m not calling her a *****...and neither did Ken. Miranda seemed to imply I had and then went on to insult my mentality as to whether I was under the influence of alcohol.
My point was that she was offended by Kens remarks about her dress sense made her look like a Moroccan *****.... Unyet she is crude enough as a young lady to go showing her most private parts to anyone who wanted to look having only known them for two days....it kinda doesn't go hand in hand...that was my point.

Ken pretty much called her a ***** though and your thread is saying that she has no right to be offended by that and Miranda never said you called her a *****.

[Kizzy]

Ken pretty much called her a ***** though and your thread is saying that she has no right to be offended by that and Miranda never said you called her a *****.

Where is my comment after rusticgal gone in support of her view? it's vanished..

'she shows a gay guy her tattoo and so she's a *****??


No miranda didn't say she called her a ***** but that was the insinuation and then she added the insult at the end for good measure.
I agree with rusticgal here, I think she's a hypocritical tart too.

[Niamh.]

None of your posts were deleted in this thread Kizzy and the latter part of Mirandas post was deleted, please don't repost the insult.

[rusticgal]

Ken pretty much called her a ***** though and your thread is saying that she has no right to be offended by that and Miranda never said you called her a *****.

Niamh...I always respect your opinions on this forum and we often agree. To say Ken 'pretty much' called her a ***** is like me saying Miranda 'pretty much' accused me of calling her a *****....
I always enjoy a discussion but there is no need to insult me by saying 'are you drunk'... Miranda is extremely rude on this forum and there is no need for it.
Anyway let's move on as I have expressed the point I was making in case it wasn't clear in the OP.

[Niamh.]

Niamh...I always respect your opinions on this forum and we often agree. To say Ken 'pretty much' called her a ***** is like me saying Miranda 'pretty much' accused me of calling her a *****....


I have deleted that part of Mirandas post, I'd appreciate of you didn't repost it.