The N Word

[lily.]

Alexander seemed very angry at Ken's use of the word 'negro'.

Didn't Emily (BB8) get thrown out for using a similar word?

I was quite shocked watching that conversation, and surprised he only got a warning for it. It's really not something anyone ought to be saying on TV or off.

[AnnieK]

I think alex handled it really well....he didn't show massive indignation, he just explained that it's not right to use that language. I think if he had kicked off it may have been different. He made me laugh when ken said something else and he just said "yeah you'd get your arse kicked for that too ". :laugh:

[Samm]

Emily said it right after the CBB5 race row tho

[Crimson Dynamo]

negro and n***er are not the same

both are offensive to black skinned people however

[arista]

Alexander seemed very angry at Ken's use of the word 'negro'.

Didn't Emily (BB8) get thrown out for using a similar word?

I was quite shocked watching that conversation, and surprised he only got a warning for it. It's really not something anyone ought to be saying on TV or off.


Yes Ken was doing it
on Purpose
to get Alex upset

Its all a act


He will be on Loose Women
after his week with Ch5 contracts
once he is evicted



I want him to stay
as I know what he is up to

[Firewire]

He definitely should've been ejected for his actions. Also, "I think black is just as offensive" was also incredibly narrow-minded. Black is the correct term. Being offended by calling someone what they are is racism.

[Jason.]

I know Emily said it as a joke in a friendly conversation.
Ken seemed to use it for attention and provoking a reaction.

Although, I'm not surprised Emily was removed I wish she wasn't. BB8 was a few months after Shilpagate, and the show had a lot of backlash from it so her removal was from the height of the controversy. Had she used it in BB9 or BB10, she would of pretty much got a warning.

Looking back, Charley did milk it at times.
One minute she was fine with it. The next she kept saying she was shocked. Had she shut up about it, and moved on, and Emily had gone in the Diary room and said something instead of saying keep quiet. She would have probably stayed in.

[Northern Monkey]

Emily said '******' which i think is worse than 'negro'.I think if Ken had said it how Emily did he would be out tbh.Ken will get himself kicked soon enough.He's trying his best.

[Jemal]

Kens a **** for that.
But love how alexander handled that, represented us well

[MTVN]

negro and n***er are not the same

both are offensive to black skinned people however

I think this is true, probably when Ken was growing up 'negro' would be a standard term and even considered polite compared to 'n***er' which has always been offensive, they might talk about 'the nice young negro boy' down the road or something like that.

Obviously it is offensive and not acceptable any more though and Ken likely knows that. He's the sort who probably revels in using such language as a throwback to his good old days before the world went PC mad.

[Northern Monkey]

I think this is true, probably when Ken was growing up 'negro' would be a standard term and even considered polite compared to 'n***er' which has always been offensive, they might talk about 'the nice young negro boy' down the road or something like that.

Obviously it is offensive and not acceptable any more though and Ken likely knows that. He's the sort who probably revels in using such language as a throwback to his good old days before the world went PC mad.Exactly.Things are only considered socially offensive when enough people decide to be offended by them.When Ken was growing up 'Negro' was just a normal word.Colours of items you could buy in shops were described as '****** black' and 'negro black'.

[Pete.]

He definitely should've been ejected for his actions. Also, "I think black is just as offensive" was also incredibly narrow-minded. Black is the correct term. Being offended by calling someone what they are is racism.
:clap1:

[Razor]

Ken should of got booted for his behaviour.

[Suze]

It's a pity Ken probably won't be the one to be evicted on Tuesday. I have never really liked him, but thought he might change my mind on that whilst in the BB house. He hasn't, still can't stand the man.

[sampvt]

The term Negro is still widely used as a non offensive term to describe Black people. There is the Negro sports academy, the Negro sport league (which incidently whites are not allowed into HMMMMMMM) and even the granddaddy of Black rights, MLK used the word extensively in his day.

Ken was brought up using it as was I and it seems that the word has been maligned in recent terms as has coloured. The youth of today are well up on these things but our age group are not. In fact till his dying day, my dad used to refer to blacks as Darkies and I was for ever telling him he was wrong but he didn't understand me.

Ken maybe does know and maybe he did use it to create a problem to a fellow nomed but maybe he didn't expect Alex to be upset, who knows. As a test I rang my best mate who is my age and asked him if he thought it was offensive and he said no, my daughter laughed and told me to be careful and my son, who is gay, thought that Perez calling Ken homophobic was far more PC incorrect, so you go figure.

[Firewire]

The term Negro is still widely used as a non offensive term to describe Black people. There is the Negro sports academy, the Negro sport league (which incidently whites are not allowed into HMMMMMMM) and even the granddaddy of Black rights, MLK used the word extensively in his day.

Ken was brought up using it as was I and it seems that the word has been maligned in recent terms as has coloured. The youth of today are well up on these things but our age group are not. In fact till his dying day, my dad used to refer to blacks as Darkies and I was for ever telling him he was wrong but he didn't understand me.

Ken maybe does know and maybe he did use it to create a problem to a fellow nomed but maybe he didn't expect Alex to be upset, who knows. As a test I rang my best mate who is my age and asked him if he thought it was offensive and he said no, my daughter laughed and told me to be careful and my son, who is gay, thought that Perez calling Ken homophobic was far more PC incorrect, so you go figure.

Calling someone homophobic is no where near on the same level as calling someone "negro"

[MTVN]

The term Negro is still widely used as a non offensive term to describe Black people. There is the Negro sports academy, the Negro sport league (which incidently whites are not allowed into HMMMMMMM) and even the granddaddy of Black rights, MLK used the word extensively in his day.

Ken was brought up using it as was I and it seems that the word has been maligned in recent terms as has coloured. The youth of today are well up on these things but our age group are not. In fact till his dying day, my dad used to refer to blacks as Darkies and I was for ever telling him he was wrong but he didn't understand me.

Ken maybe does know and maybe he did use it to create a problem to a fellow nomed but maybe he didn't expect Alex to be upset, who knows. As a test I rang my best mate who is my age and asked him if he thought it was offensive and he said no, my daughter laughed and told me to be careful and my son, who is gay, thought that Perez calling Ken homophobic was far more PC incorrect, so you go figure.

Really? Because I can't seem to find anything about these organisations

[sampvt]

Calling someone homophobic is no where near on the same level as calling someone "negro"

I totally disagree but Im white, oldish and straight so our views are not exactly viewed from the same angle. Google Negro and its not depicted as derogatory, then google Homophobic and its termed as a derogatory term against straights that don't conform to Homosexuals views and even against the liberals.

[sampvt]

Really? Because I can't seem to find anything about these organisations

Copied from Wikipedia........


quote.......The term "Negro" is still used in some historical contexts, such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund[7][8] and the Negro league in sports.

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American", because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term.[9][10][11]

Unquote....the other things I found are also there but this should suffice.

[MTVN]

Copied from Wikipedia........


quote.......The term "Negro" is still used in some historical contexts, such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund[7][8] and the Negro league in sports.

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American", because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term.[9][10][11]

Unquote....the other things I found are also there but this should suffice.

But if you click the link for that Negro league it had its last season in 1951..

[sampvt]

But if you click the link for that Negro league it had its last season in 1951..

Ill ring Wikipedia tomorrow and tell them, lol.

[Firewire]

I totally disagree but Im white, oldish and straight so our views are not exactly viewed from the same angle. Google Negro and its not depicted as derogatory, then google Homophobic and its termed as a derogatory term against straights that don't conform to Homosexuals views and even against the liberals.

A homophobe is someone who discriminates against someone who is attracted to someone of the same sex. Calling someone a homophobe for being homophobic is not an offensive term. I completely understand people do not share the same views, but do not say that being racist and calling someone homophobic is even remotely similar.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think this is true, probably when Ken was growing up 'negro' would be a standard term and even considered polite compared to 'n***er' which has always been offensive, they might talk about 'the nice young negro boy' down the road or something like that.

Obviously it is offensive and not acceptable any more though and Ken likely knows that. He's the sort who probably revels in using such language as a throwback to his good old days before the world went PC mad.

It wasnt that long ago that darkie or coloured was the norm in scotland but you dont hear it now and i am fairly sure any pensioner would know that.

and on tv ken?

:facepalm:

[Kizzy]

'Negroid (also known as Congoid) is a term that is used by forensic and physical anthropologists to refer to individuals and populations that share certain morphological and skeletal traits that are frequent among most populations in Sub-Saharan Africa.'

I thought it hat something to do with this?


I think Ken is trying to get himself ejected, would he still get his fee if he was?

[Crimson Dynamo]

get ejected and be branded a sexist racist homophobe?

way to go Ken

[sampvt]

A homophobe is someone who discriminates against someone who is attracted to someone of the same sex. Calling someone a homophobe for being homophobic is not an offensive term. I completely understand people do not share the same views, but do not say that being racist and calling someone homophobic is even remotely similar.

So you do agree that calling someone a Homophobe when they have never said anything against gays, is wrong then. Good....so can you now please show me evidence of when ken was homophobic. He was racist and misogynistic maybe, but I cant find anything he said against gays. maybe \I am wrong but I do watch the program all the time.

[Firewire]

So you do agree that calling someone a Homophobe when they have never said anything against gays, is wrong then. Good....so can you now please show me evidence of when ken was homophobic. He was racist and misogynistic maybe, but I cant find anything he said against gays. maybe \I am wrong but I do watch the program all the time.

It is wrong, you can't brand someone something they're not. That's slander. I didn't say he was homophobic.

[sampvt]

It is wrong, you can't brand someone something they're not. That's slander. I didn't say he was homophobic.

FFS read the posts....I was referring to PEREZ calling KEN a homophobe when he said nothing derogatory against gays.

[Firewire]

FFS read the posts....I was referring to PEREZ calling KEN a homophobe when he said nothing derogatory against gays.

I know. I was agreeing with you. Ken wasn't homophobic. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here?

[sampvt]

Calling someone homophobic is no where near on the same level as calling someone "negro"

I was referring to this post where you say homophobe and Negro are not the same. My point is that they are if the homophobic comment is aimed at someone NOT GUILTY of saying it. TBH, there is way too much going on this morning for my little head to get things right.

[Firewire]

I was referring to this post where you say homophobe and Negro are not the same. My point is that they are if the homophobic comment is aimed at someone NOT GUILTY of saying it. TBH, there is way too much going on this morning for my little head to get things right.

Perez shouldn't have called Ken a homophobe. He was completely trying to turn the situation around and make himself a victim.

Ken calling Alexander "negro" is much worse than the above though. Perez shouldn't have got involved.

[Northern Monkey]

Ken is trying to get kicked.I think in his day negro was a normal word but he knows it can be seen as offensive now.He did'nt just say 'negro' he said 'fat negro' he was being insulting on purpose because he wants out,He said as much earlier in the day.He'll be gone before long.Shame really because i don't want the series to die a death in the second week.

[Vicky.]

I was quite surprised he just got a warning. However I feel Emily was kicked out not so much because of what she said, but because Charley made a massive fuss over it for hours afterwards. Both were wrong in saying what they said but the way the receiving person takes it plays a part I think

[daniel-lewis-1985]

I think BB really base their decision regarding removing a housemate by seeing how the person on the other end of the insulting comment reacts.

If Alexander had become upset and confrontational I have no doubt BB would have removed Ken.

Like with Jeremy I also think if the other housemates didn't act so outraged Jeremy would still be there but they couldn't risk keeping him in when other housemates were upset and saying he should leave.

[Northern Monkey]

I was quite surprised he just got a warning. However I feel Emily was kicked out not so much because of what she said, but because Charley made a massive fuss over it for hours afterwards. Both were wrong in saying what they said but the way the receiving person takes it plays a part I think

That is a good point.Same as the Jeremy situation.If Chloe had just said 'that's not ok' and left it at that so Jeremy knew where he stood and not touched her robe again then he would never have been kicked(well Perez did'nt help).But you are right that it is partly about how much fuss is made about it.

[Northern Monkey]

I think BB really base their decision regarding removing a housemate by seeing how the person on the other end of the insulting comment reacts.

If Alexander had become upset and confrontational I have no doubt BB would have removed Ken.

Like with Jeremy I also think if the other housemates didn't act so outraged Jeremy would still be there but they couldn't risk keeping him in when other housemates were upset and saying he should leave.

Yes exactly this.

[Denver]

I think BB really base their decision regarding removing a housemate by seeing how the person on the other end of the insulting comment reacts.

If Alexander had become upset and confrontational I have no doubt BB would have removed Ken.

Like with Jeremy I also think if the other housemates didn't act so outraged Jeremy would still be there but they couldn't risk keeping him in when other housemates were upset and saying he should leave.

This basically i reckon Jeremy and Chloe would of sorted it out themeselves the following day but with Perez claiming he is unsafe ( although all housemates said he overreacting) led to his removal

[Dash Darington]

I think Ken is trying to get himself ejected, would he still get his fee if he was?

This is a good question. I suspect he'd get some agreed upon portion of it, as defined by his contract. I doubt he'd get the full amount, as that would result in more people getting deliberately ejected to get a quick fee.

I think his real aim is to get voted out, not ejected.

[Crimson Dynamo]

there is no way ken is THAT stupid

"I know I will be racist.."

no

[sampvt]

If truth be known, Ken has very little going for him so to play the panto villain is his gimmick, problem is, he does not have a defined gameplan that is well thought out. He needs to take a step back and re assign his prioritise into a better gameplan. There are voters out there that will follow him for being deliberately disruptive, but the fine line has been crossed and he needs a re think.

[lily.]

I was quite surprised he just got a warning. However I feel Emily was kicked out not so much because of what she said, but because Charley made a massive fuss over it for hours afterwards. Both were wrong in saying what they said but the way the receiving person takes it plays a part I think

Good point Vicky.

Alexander handled it in a calm, mature manner.

[GiRTh]

Really? Because I can't seem to find anything about these organisations
Just about to post this. These places have not existed for a few decades .

[MB.]

Yeah, in regards to the Emily/Ken comparison, people should remember that in most cases, an ejection isn't just a punishment for the person, but it's often to keep the other person safe or comfortable. Alexander seemed fairly fine with Ken's comments, but Chloe seemed quite distressed by what happened and it it might have made her feel uncomfortable if Jeremy'd stayed in. Similar to Charley/Emily.

[GiRTh]

Copied from Wikipedia........


quote.......The term "Negro" is still used in some historical contexts, such as in the name of the United Negro College Fund[7][8] and the Negro league in sports.

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American", because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term.[9][10][11]

Unquote....the other things I found are also there but this should suffice.
It doesnt exist and as for you earlier post, the reason whites were not allowed is simply cuz blacks weren't allowe in the Major leagues. But we're talking 40-50 years ago at least as is your MLK reference.

[GiRTh]

I wasn't surprised Ken wasn't removed but it was more due to Alexanders reaction than anything else. For me when he called Alexander a 'good lad was worse and the pickaniny comment was frankly disgusting. I was shaking my head when he said that but not so much at the Negro comment. T

[sampvt]

There are 2 current ones on here and loads more if you search the word negro for long enough.

http://www.diversitybestpractices.com/news-articles/20-african-american-organizations-you-need-know

[Vicky.]

I have never heard the word pickaninny before in my life

[GiRTh]

There are 2 current ones on here and loads more if you search the word negro for long enough.

http://www.diversitybestpractices.com/news-articles/20-african-american-organizations-you-need-knowBut the two you mentioned in your first post were completely in your head? OK I get it now. :thumbs:

[GiRTh]

I have never heard the word pickaninny before in my lifeIts another very very old fashioned word. Ken shows his age with that one.

[Niamh.]

I have never heard the word pickaninny before in my life


Me neither

But yeah, so much respect for Alexander, what a gentleman he is, he handled it with so much class and dignity when he would have been well within his rights to kick off

[GiRTh]

Me neither

But yeah, so much respect for Alexander, what a gentleman he is, he handled it with so much class and dignity when he would have been well within his rights to kick offFor sure. I know guys who would have grabbed up 70 odd year old Ken for that. Dont give a ****** how old he is he needs to show a bit more respect. I wonder how long ago 61 year old Alexander was last called a 'good lad'.

[Vicky.]

****ing hell, Alexander is 61?! Hes aged very well

[Niamh.]

For sure. I know guys who would have grabbed up 70 odd year old Ken for that. Dont give a ****** how old he is he needs to show a bit more respect. I wonder how long ago 61 year old Alexander was last called a 'good lad'.


Age isn't a good enough excuse, yeah maybe back in his day the word was acceptable but is he honestly saying that he's that oblivious to the world around him that he still thought it was acceptable? Or is he saying that he doesn't give a ****? My money is on the latter. Revolting man, what he said to Chloe about Jeremy afterwards as well was so sleazy and derogatory.

[GiRTh]

Age isn't a good enough excuse, yeah maybe back in his day the word was acceptable but is he honestly saying that he's that oblivious to the world around him that he still thought it was acceptable? Or is he saying that he doesn't give a ****? My money is on the latter. Revolting man, what he said to Chloe about Jeremy afterwards as well was so sleazy and derogatory.I agree his comment to Chloe about Jeremy being a producer was completely out of order. Not sure about the strategy of leching, perving and casual racism is gonna get him very far though.

[coffee]

I honestly didn't know negro was offensive. I never said it in my life anyway but now I know not to.

[Crimson Dynamo]

you have to accept that old people are not you. ken does not give a feck that you now think negro is bad, other 70 year olds may agree, some do not

he does not

deal with that

its real

[bots]

It has a lot to do with intent too. Ken was intent on making a controversy as he wants to get kicked out, take his money and run. So, he knew what he was saying and the potential effect it would have

[WyldeFyre]

I honestly didn't know negro was offensive. I never said it in my life anyway but now I know not to.

I'm very anti-racist and didn't know it was considered offensive either tbh. But we live and learn.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm very anti-racist and didn't know it was considered offensive either tbh. But we live and learn.

it is not offensive its old and historical

but ken used it in an offensive way by being a twat

[GiRTh]

you have to accept that old people are not you. ken does not give a feck that you now think negro is bad, other 70 year olds may agree, some do not

he does not

deal with that

its real'You now think Negro is bad' I'd say society now thinks its bad. I take it you dont consider yourself to be a part of society?

[Macie Lightfoot]

Yeah, I don't think negro is really a racist term (it's not for me to judge anyway, though) but it's a really antiquated term that obviously has loads of negative connotations surrounding it, and I think that's mainly what Alexander was trying to get across. Like, someone freely calling someone else a negro even in jest just reflects poorly on the person using it and makes them look not well-informed at all.

[GiRTh]

Yeah, I don't think negro is really a racist term (it's not for me to judge anyway, though) but it's a really antiquated term that obviously has loads of negative connotations surrounding it, and I think that's mainly what Alexander was trying to get across. Like, someone freely calling someone else a negro even in jest just reflects poorly on the person using it and makes them look not well-informed at all.:clap1:

[coffee]

and because she hasn't known him too long either. He doesn't really know how he was using that word... If it was good or bad.

I mean, I'm not black so can't say if this word would hurt me or not but I am Greek and if my friend called me a sweaty hairy greasey olive crumbley cheese face I would think it was funny but if a stranger called me it I would go crazy angry ahahah

[WyldeFyre]

When it comes down to it, a word in itself cannot be offensive, it is the intent behind the word which offends.

[Northern Monkey]

When it comes down to it, a word in itself cannot be offensive, it is the intent behind the word which offends.

This.Pretty sure he said 'fat negro' which put it in a derogatory context.I don't think just saying the word 'negro' in itself is a racist term but put in the context Ken used it,it certainly did.

[TizzyTizzie \(^o^)/]

negro and n***er are not the same

both are offensive to black skinned people however


NO...NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE WOULD BE OFFENDED..
The use of the term Negro is perfectly fine and those who get offended by it are only offended due to their ignorance of what the word actually means and where it originates from.

Alexander saying 'Know one uses that word anymore' is BS...He clearly doesn't get out much. The amount of Black/White/Asian/Hispanic......people using the word is still very high.

It's not as if Ken said it in a racist way.. he was joking. And if anyone has a problem with that then ask yourself, "Is it ok that when Ken uses the word he gets hate but when many comedians such as Kevin Hart say it, it's accepted and deemed funny!?".
So in other words,'Is it ok for a black man to say something that a white man can't.'

[TizzyTizzie \(^o^)/]

When it comes down to it, a word in itself cannot be offensive, it is the intent behind the word which offends.

Agreed :cheer2: :laugh:

[GiRTh]

NO...NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE WOULD BE OFFENDED..
The use of the term Negro is perfectly fine and those who get offended by it are only offended due to their ignorance of what the word actually means and where it originates from.

Alexander saying 'Know one uses that word anymore' is BS...He clearly doesn't get out much. The amount of Black/White/Asian/Hispanic......people using the word is still very high.

It's not as if Ken said it in a racist way.. he was joking. And if anyone has a problem with that then ask yourself, "Is it ok that when Ken uses the word he gets hate but when many comedians such as Kevin Hart say it, it's accepted and deemed funny!?".
So in other words,'Is it ok for a black man to say something that a white man can't.'
:facepalm:

FOR ****S SAKE

Sorry for the caps but I'm sick of this stuipid point being made. It only shows the posters ignorance.

[Marsh.]

NO...NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE WOULD BE OFFENDED..
The use of the term Negro is perfectly fine and those who get offended by it are only offended due to their ignorance of what the word actually means and where it originates from.

Alexander saying 'Know one uses that word anymore' is BS...He clearly doesn't get out much. The amount of Black/White/Asian/Hispanic......people using the word is still very high.

It's not as if Ken said it in a racist way.. he was joking. And if anyone has a problem with that then ask yourself, "Is it ok that when Ken uses the word he gets hate but when many comedians such as Kevin Hart say it, it's accepted and deemed funny!?".
So in other words,'Is it ok for a black man to say something that a white man can't.'

Maybe you should brush up on your history before making such uninformed statements.

[Niamh.]

NO...NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE WOULD BE OFFENDED..
The use of the term Negro is perfectly fine and those who get offended by it are only offended due to their ignorance of what the word actually means and where it originates from.

Alexander saying 'Know one uses that word anymore' is BS...He clearly doesn't get out much. The amount of Black/White/Asian/Hispanic......people using the word is still very high.

It's not as if Ken said it in a racist way.. he was joking. And if anyone has a problem with that then ask yourself, "Is it ok that when Ken uses the word he gets hate but when many comedians such as Kevin Hart say it, it's accepted and deemed funny!?".
So in other words,'Is it ok for a black man to say something that a white man can't.'

The way Ken used the word made it twice as bad imo

[lily.]

I have never heard the word pickaninny before in my life

Neither have I.

I didn't realise Alexander was 61. That explains his calm reaction though. He has lived through times when racism was worse than it is today and no doubt come up against a lot of hate in his lifetime, so he has learned how to deal with ignorant people like Ken.

[johne]

The term Negro is still widely used as a non offensive term to describe Black people. There is the Negro sports academy, the Negro sport league (which incidently whites are not allowed into HMMMMMMM) and even the granddaddy of Black rights, MLK used the word extensively in his day.

It's only a matter of time, (a couple of years?), before the term "black" becomes taboo, such is the way with political correctness. I would ask those who want Ken kicked out for using "negro", and appear shocked that he did so, to reflect on the fact that their beliefs and emotions are being manipulated by the thought police.

For what it's worth, I'll agree that one often goes along with political correctness simply because failing to do so upsets those who unconsciously follow it. Ken's sin is that he seems to be intentionally offending everyone, and I agree with those who think he is not a very nice person, but if BB evicted everyone who was not nice they would probably soon run out of contestants.

[sampvt]

Ive lived all over the world with my job. In S Africa you cant call a black a coloured as this refers to mixed race, you cant call a coloured a black and in the USA I was told by a man that I called black that he was actually Afro Caribbean. I have heard that blacks with a hint of a mixed race like Tiger Woods, don't like being called Black at all. Its a bloody minefield and as someone has said, it will all change in a couple of years time.

The stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life was a fellow golfer at a tournament in Vegas, asking a black man why he was called black when he was brown. This black person had the start delayed and had my friend ejected for racial abuse saying he called him a Brownie. He didn't, he said why don't people call you Brownies but he was English and didn't know Brownies referred to a cake.

This was a while ago granted but to complain and get a tournament closed down and to blackmail a sponsor in order to get a man evicted for such a silly thing just goes to show how PC our world is getting to.