So WHAT would everyone be happy with

[rionablue]

So, a lot of people in here are saying that Chloe milked the situation that happened last night, played up for the cameras, over reacted, got all theatrical because she is up for eviction and wanted public SYMPATHY. Even some people are insinuating that because of the line of work she is in she practically ASKED FOR it.

I wonder would Chloe have EVER been right in some peoples eyes if she A... Slapped his hand away and told him back off (could be viewed as assault no matter how light the slap was) B Kneed him in the groin which I reckon Katie might just have done if it had been her ( Again assault) C. Ran into the bedroom screaming blue murder and telling everyone what had happened (well that would DEFINITELY been seen as theatrics by many people) D Just ran to the diary room and spilled it all to BB straight away (That could be noted as the BEST way to get airtime) D Just told ONE PERSON about it ( Well that could be deemed to be that she was making sure everyone else knew also specially if she told PEREZ)

If Chloe had just told him it was not okay and left it like that the possibility was that he would go on to be even more and more unstable in the house and if he did that to her, in a drunken state again he might do something else to someone else. It is very unfortunate it happened but it did and BB had to remove him as a lot of the housemates would feel uncomfortable but the clear facts are that Chloe with some of the other girls went to check if he was ok. They offered to clean up or hold his hair or whatever. This is a very brave thing to do. The men wouldn't be arsed. The smell of sick is rotten and in such an enclosed area it must have been vile. Chloe asked the girls to keep the door open when they left the toilet, the door closed, Jeremy touched her robe GOD KNOWS WHY. This was the most unlikely place to do something like this. Chloe was upset and hurt she was crying ( I would too) she ran from the room and tried to just get out of there but was accosted by Nadia and Cami who were asking her what happened. She went to the diary room when called and explained how she felt. SHE IS NOT IN THE WRONG AND SHE DID NOT OVER REACT. As a matter of fact I reckon it was the girls goading her about what happened that prompted most of her reaction !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Denver]

I think you will all look pathetic when Chloe comes out of the house and says it was a misunderstanding

[jaxie]

So, a lot of people in here are saying that Chloe milked the situation that happened last night, played up for the cameras, over reacted, got all theatrical because she is up for eviction and wanted public SYMPATHY. Even some people are insinuating that because of the line of work she is in she practically ASKED FOR it.

I wonder would Chloe have EVER been right in some peoples eyes if she A... Slapped his hand away and told him back off (could be viewed as assault no matter how light the slap was) B Kneed him in the groin which I reckon Katie might just have done if it had been her ( Again assault) C. Ran into the bedroom screaming blue murder and telling everyone what had happened (well that would DEFINITELY been seen as theatrics by many people) D Just ran to the diary room and spilled it all to BB straight away (That could be noted as the BEST way to get airtime) D Just told ONE PERSON about it ( Well that could be deemed to be that she was making sure everyone else knew also specially if she told PEREZ)

If Chloe had just told him it was not okay and left it like that the possibility was that he would go on to be even more and more unstable in the house and if he did that to her, in a drunken state again he might do something else to someone else. It is very unfortunate it happened but it did and BB had to remove him as a lot of the housemates would feel uncomfortable but the clear facts are that Chloe with some of the other girls went to check if he was ok. They offered to clean up or hold his hair or whatever. This is a very brave thing to do. The men wouldn't be arsed. The smell of sick is rotten and in such an enclosed area it must have been vile. Chloe asked the girls to keep the door open when they left the toilet, the door closed, Jeremy touched her robe GOD KNOWS WHY. This was the most unlikely place to do something like this. Chloe was upset and hurt she was crying ( I would too) she ran from the room and tried to just get out of there but was accosted by Nadia and Cami who were asking her what happened. She went to the diary room when called and explained how she felt. SHE IS NOT IN THE WRONG AND SHE DID NOT OVER REACT. As a matter of fact I reckon it was the girls goading her about what happened that prompted most of her reaction !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're putting a lot of words into other peoples mouths I haven't seen anyone but you insinuating most of that about her asking for it. She wasn't mother Teresa for going in the toilet with him. In fact you seem more outraged over Chloe's honour than her. Chill out. :shrug:

[Jake.]

You're putting a lot of words into other peoples mouths I haven't seen anyone but you insinuating most of that. She wasn't mother Teresa for going in the toilet with him. In fact you seem more outraged over Chloe's honour than her. Chill out. :shrug:

Yes because leaving him collapsed by the toilet in a drunken state on his own would have been far more saint-like

[jaxie]

Yes because leaving him collapsed by the toilet in a drunken state on his own would have been far more saint-like

Leaving him to get up with vomming up on his own would definitely have been the right thing to do. Do you like to be watched while you vomit? I don't.

[Denver]

Yes because leaving him collapsed by the toilet in a drunken state on his own would have been far more saint-like

TBH she should have left him as nobody likes being fussed over when there throwing up

[unoino]

What itter crap...in todays society people cryin wolf have a great time..they get pc vote..they get the guy evicted...they increase their chances of winning...as some have pointed out..if Callum touched her dressing gown instead of the ugly American would she have done the same...I doubt it very very much...abd lets look at it logically..if this show was live from a strict muslim country..the accused eould probably be dragged out and beheaded...would Chloe still insist that he deserves that and continue cryin or would she of had a word with him and told him to pxxx off before things get out of hand...to late for him...shed of got him beheaded.!!!

[Jake.]

Leaving him to get up with vomming up on his own would definitely have been the right thing to do. Do you like to be watched while you vomit? I don't.

Yeah, I appreciate somebody giving me a hand actually and I'd do the same for anybody else.

[JoshBB]

TBH she should have left him as nobody likes being fussed over when there throwing up

Yes but maybe she just wanted to be there so jeremy felt like the house cared about him.

[Jake.]

TBH she should have left him as nobody likes being fussed over when there throwing up

So you know Jeremy then do you?

People also forgetting that both Chloe AND Cami were helping him :umm2:

[Denver]

Yeah, I appreciate somebody giving me a hand actually and I'd do the same for anybody else.

The fact is she shouldnt be going in the bathroom alone with a man although she thought she would be safe she should always be cautious

[Jake.]

It's beyond ridiculous..

It'd be like saying 'it's a woman's fault if she gets assaulted down a dark alley, because she shouldn't have been there in the first place'

[Denver]

So you know Jeremy then do you?

People also forgetting that both Chloe AND Cami were helping him :umm2:

Cami left and maybe she shouldnt of left them 2 alone in the bathroom

[Jake.]

The fact is she shouldnt be going in the bathroom alone with a man although she thpught she would be safe she should always be cautious

She wasn't alone, Cami was with her who then popped out (most likely for water for Jeremy)

[Denver]

It's beyond ridiculous..

It'd be like saying 'it's a woman's fault if she gets assaulted down a dark alley, because she shouldn't have been there in the first place'

God your taking this right out of context making things up again

[Jake.]

Cami left and maybe she shouldnt of left them 2 alone in the bathroom

Well if Cami felt safe with Jeremy in the bathroom alone (which she was at first), why would she refuse to leave Chloe alone in there with him? Listen to yourself :umm2:

[JoshBB]

The fact is she shouldnt be going in the bathroom alone with a man although she thpught she would be safe she should always be cautious

why does everyone blame the ****ing victim? is it her fault for 'not being careful' now?????


"hello, yes you are not going to be persecuted for murder because the person you stabbed was stupid and should have been more careful"

stop being ridiculous.

[jaxie]

She wasn't alone, Cami was with her who then popped out (most likely for water for Jeremy)
She was all over callum when she popped out, does he have a tap?

[Denver]

Yes but maybe she just wanted to be there so jeremy felt like the house cared about him.

I understand that but the bathroom is small as it is and he needed more space but apperently im saying it was all her fault

[Jake.]

God your taking this right out of context making things up again

Says the one who claims that she shouldn't have been in the toilet with a man who couldn't even stand up :joker:

[JoshBB]

I understand that but the bathroom is small as it is and he needed more space but apperently im saying it was all her fault

It does sound like it!

[chuff me dizzy]

Yes because leaving him collapsed by the toilet in a drunken state on his own would have been far more saint-like

Collapsed ? Not on my tv

[jaxie]

why does everyone blame the ****ing victim? is it her fault for 'not being careful' now?????


"hello, yes you are not going to be persecuted for murder because the person you stabbed was stupid and should have been more careful"

stop being ridiculous.

There was no victim. Someone made a drunk move. She told him off. Why are you trying to make it into something it wasn't?

[Denver]

why does everyone blame the ****ing victim? is it her fault for 'not being careful' now?????


"hello, yes you are not going to be persecuted for murder because the person you stabbed was stupid and should have been more careful"

stop being ridiculous.

Please tell me where i said its Chloe fault sorry your making lies again

I think you should get your facts right

[Cherie]

She was all over callum when she popped out, does he have a tap?

:laugh: I lolled.

[Jamesy]

I think the minute other people got involved that made Chloe a little more hysteric.

On the whole neither Chloe or Jeremy made a big deal out of it (although some of Chloe's body language after suggested she was putting some of the crying on). Chloe's upset seemed to show shock more than actually being upset from her boob being exposed.

It's the other housemates and now viewers who have made this out to be far worse than it really was. Just looking at some of the comments on this forum is ridiculous.

[Jake.]

Collapsed ? Not on my tv

Sonhe wasn't on the bathroom floor, no?

[chuff me dizzy]

I think the minute other people got involved that made Chloe a little more hysteric.

On the whole neither Chloe or Jeremy made a big deal out of it (although some of Chloe's body language after suggested she was putting some of the crying on). Chloe's upset seemed to show shock more than actually being upset from her boob being exposed.

It's the other housemates and now viewers who have made this out to be far worse than it really was. Just looking at some of the comments on this forum is ridiculous.

"Upset"? she was hyper-ventilating ,the dramatic cow

[Denver]

I think the minute other people got involved that made Chloe a little more hysteric.

On the whole neither Chloe or Jeremy made a big deal out of it (although some of Chloe's body language after suggested she was putting some of the crying on). Chloe's upset seemed to show shock more than actually being upset from her boob being exposed.

It's the other housemates and now viewers who have made this out to be far worse than it really was. Just looking at some of the comments on this forum is ridiculous.

Apparently Chloe deserved it because people are looking at both sides of the story

[chuff me dizzy]

Sonhe wasn't on the bathroom floor, no?

SAT and Chloe the flasher was knelt

[Jamesy]

"Upset"? she was hyper-ventilating ,the dramatic cow

I'm referring more to her talking to Big Brother in the diary room, when she wasn't hyper-ventilating.

[unoino]

Shes a drama queen...

[jaxie]

Shes a drama queen...

So is this forum. I can't believe how much some people are making of this incident.

[rionablue]

I think the minute other people got involved that made Chloe a little more hysteric.

On the whole neither Chloe or Jeremy made a big deal out of it (although some of Chloe's body language after suggested she was putting some of the crying on). Chloe's upset seemed to show shock more than actually being upset from her boob being exposed.

It's the other housemates and now viewers who have made this out to be far worse than it really was. Just looking at some of the comments on this forum is ridiculous.

That was part of what I said Jamesy. It was bloody Nadia and Cami and a few more fussing over her straight away that made her worse. She just wanted to go into the snug or garden I reckon from the way she was heading. But Noooooooo Chloe is milking it !!!!!!!!!!

[Denver]

That was part of what I said Jamesy. It was bloody Nadia and Cami and a few more fussing over her straight away that made her worse. She just wanted to go into the snug or garden I reckon from the way she was heading. But Noooooooo Chloe is milking it !!!!!!!!!!

TBH i said all along that given the chamce the 2 would of sorted it out between themselves

[bots]

The fact is she shouldnt be going in the bathroom alone with a man although she thought she would be safe she should always be cautious

Have to say your constant defending of jeremy is amazing. Lets be clear here, its the BB studio, not a public toilet. There are cameras in every room so it is not the same as normal life at all. People comparing this with normal life are making a big error.

Chloe did the bathroom scene for airtime, same with all the other girls else they wouldn't have given a sh**. Jeremy did something unexpected, but she was never in danger. That's the extent of it. Jeremy was unpredictable and clearly hasn't got his alcohol problems under control - that, in combination with the fact the other hm's no longer wanted him there, is why he was thrown out

[Liam-]

SAT and Chloe the flasher was knelt

Vile.

[rionablue]

You're putting a lot of words into other peoples mouths I haven't seen anyone but you insinuating most of that about her asking for it. She wasn't mother Teresa for going in the toilet with him. In fact you seem more outraged over Chloe's honour than her. Chill out. :shrug:

Im talking about comments like 'She was wearing nothing under her robe' 'She went in there alone with him' 'Look at what she does for a living why be so over dramatic about this incident' I have seen lots and lots of comments like this. I am basing my whole post on all of the comments I have read since the ****ing unfortunate incident happened. Chloe wouldn't be my favourite housemate so it isn't like I am looking at this through rose tinted glasses putting my favourite housemate on a pedestal. I dislike Katie intensely but if it had happened with her at least I would put my dislike of her aside and feel sorry for her. Not that she would have dealt with it the same way !!!!!!!!!!

[Cherie]

In all honesty, Jeremy should have been allowed to sleep it off, and apologise to Chloe for inappropriately touching her robe and exposing her. That should have been an end to it.

[Denver]

Have to say your constant defending of jeremy is amazing. Lets be clear here, its the BB studio, not a public toilet. There are cameras in every room so it is not the same as normal life at all. People comparing this with normal life are making a big error.

Chloe did the bathroom scene for airtime, same with all the other girls else they wouldn't have given a sh**. Jeremy did something unexpected, but she was never in danger. That's the extent of it. Jeremy was unpredictable and clearly hasn't got his alcohol problems under control - that, in combination with the fact the other hm's no longer wanted him there, is why he was thrown out

Im not defending im just capable of seeing both sides

[chuff me dizzy]

In all honesty, Jeremy should have been allowed to sleep it off, and apologise to Chloe for inappropriately touching her robe and exposing her. That should have been an end to it.

:clap1:

[rionablue]

What itter crap...in todays society people cryin wolf have a great time..they get pc vote..they get the guy evicted...they increase their chances of winning...as some have pointed out..if Callum touched her dressing gown instead of the ugly American would she have done the same...I doubt it very very much...abd lets look at it logically..if this show was live from a strict muslim country..the accused eould probably be dragged out and beheaded...would Chloe still insist that he deserves that and continue cryin or would she of had a word with him and told him to pxxx off before things get out of hand...to late for him...shed of got him beheaded.!!!

I am entitled to post a thread on here and I posted it based on ALL of the vicious comments I have seen about Chloe (who incidently is far from my favourite housemate) Girls would have reacted in different ways last night. Chloe was hurt and upset and probably made more upset by the other girls faffing over her instead of leaving her alone as it looked like she was heading to the garden to get her head together. You may not agree with me but there are many who are as hurt as I am about the way Chloe is being treated on here (many of those people who are talking about her in this way have made their dislike of Chloe very clear in their housemates lists and opinions up to now so this is the icing on their get Chloe out cake)

[Llewyn]

Milking it, she needs the sympathy vote because lets be honest here she is boring as ****

[Denver]

I am entitled to post a thread on here and I posted it based on ALL of the vicious comments I have seen about Chloe (who incidently is far from my favourite housemate) Girls would have reacted in different ways last night. Chloe was hurt and upset and probably made more upset by the other girls faffing over her instead of leaving her alone as it looked like she was heading to the garden to get her head together. You may not agree with me but there are many who are as hurt as I am about the way Chloe is being treated on here (many of those people who are talking about her in this way have made their dislike of Chloe very clear in their housemates lists and opinions up to now so this is the icing on their get Chloe out cake)

You have accused people of saying things they havnt

[Vicky.]

In all honesty, Jeremy should have been allowed to sleep it off, and apologise to Chloe for inappropriately touching her robe and exposing her. That should have been an end to it.

:thumbs:

[jaxie]

Im talking about comments like 'She was wearing nothing under her robe' 'She went in there alone with him' 'Look at what she does for a living why be so over dramatic about this incident' I have seen lots and lots of comments like this. I am basing my whole post on all of the comments I have read since the ****ing unfortunate incident happened. Chloe wouldn't be my favourite housemate so it isn't like I am looking at this through rose tinted glasses putting my favourite housemate on a pedestal. I dislike Katie intensely but if it had happened with her at least I would put my dislike of her aside and feel sorry for her. Not that she would have dealt with it the same way !!!!!!!!!!
There is nothing wrong with having an opinion that she was silly to be in the toilet with him, specially if she didn't have much on. That isn't saying she was asking for its simply saying she did put herself in a silly situation and the drunk made a pass at her. We are not talking about a serious sexual incident, we are talking about touching her robe. I have no feelings towards her, there is no motive here I just think people like you are blowing way out of proportion. !!!!!!!!!

Men have rights too and every drunken pass, or misguided action is NOT a potential rape. Please get a grip.

Also in a bb statement Chloe said herself she liked Jeremy and didn't think he meant any harm. So again please get a grip.

[wendywillow]

he was drunk and acted like an ass but it wasn't malicious or anything. she was over the top but I think it was a genuine reaction on her part and she couldnt help it (she was probably already stressed and maybe a drink or two didn't help) I think bb should've left it up to a house vote the next day after everyone had calmed down but they seem very quick to react these days & want to avoid any controversy so he got the boot

[rionablue]

You have accused people of saying things they havnt

I have generalised many of the comments that have been spouted about her not said SUCHAPERSON said this and that. Look at all the threads and you will see evidence of everything I have mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[coffee]

I think you will all look pathetic when Chloe comes out of the house and says it was a misunderstanding

And so what if she does say that?
I know deep down no matter what she says in the future... She will always be hurt by that moment.
She will be able to make jokes about it, laugh about it, but it won't be forgiven not even if she accepts his apology. You can't just forgive something like that.
To me, that was evil what he did. He isn't an evil guy but there is evil in him and it came out in that moment.
Evil and stupidity mixed together.
Thinking anything can be his if he wants it.
That's not how life works.

So if she does say "haha, LOLZ!" no, that won't be how she really feels about it, it will be how everyone else is telling her to feel about it. :nono:

[Macie Lightfoot]

There is nothing wrong with having an opinion that she was silly to be in the toilet with him, specially if she didn't have much on. That isn't saying she was asking for its simply saying she did put herself in a silly situation and the drunk made a pass at her.

But why would it be silly to check on a heavily intoxicated housemate?

[coffee]

But why would it be silly to check on a heavily intoxicated housemate?

Because it's bad to be a nice person, obviously.

[jaxie]

But why would it be silly to check on a heavily intoxicated housemate?

People who are drunk are unpredictable. Isn't that common sense? It is common sense to me, maybe I'm extra clued up from personal experience.

[jasperinporto]

What a complete over reaction by Chloe to the 'groping' incident. I wasn't convinced at all by her crocodile tears and her fake sobbing. And to make it worse we had Mother Hen, Nadia, trying to console her. Give over. My sympathies were towards Jeremy and his, no doubt, after this, his damaged reputation.

[abhorson]

To the original post. The removal of Jeremy.

It happened and rightly so.

[coffee]

What a complete over reaction by Chloe to the 'groping' incident. I wasn't convinced at all by her crocodile tears and her fake sobbing. And to make it worse we had Mother Hen, Nadia, trying to console her. Give over. My sympathies were towards Jeremy and his, no doubt, after this, his damaged reputation.

Not an over reaction.
People kill themselves for much smaller things.
Chloe definitely didn't over react.

[Northern Monkey]

In all honesty, Jeremy should have been allowed to sleep it off, and apologise to Chloe for inappropriately touching her robe and exposing her. That should have been an end to it.

Perspective.:clap1:

[abhorson]

Perspective.:clap1:

If a stranger did that to a relative of yours?

Perspective?

[Northern Monkey]

If a stranger did that to a relative of yours?

Perspective?

They would probably call him a perv and slap him or tell him they're not interested not try winning an Oscar afterwards.
People get drunk,They do silly things.Women do it too but somehow that's ok.I've had my arse and balls grabbed by women i did'nt know,they're not saints.
Jeremy was wrong.
Chloe was'nt asking for and did'nt deserve to have her robe touched by how she was dressed or because she's a page 3 girl but it happened.It was a minor drunken misunderstanding that could have been resolved much more maturely.No need for the dramatics specially from Perez.Chloe should've said 'No that's not ok,I'm not interested' or told him to '**** off' or whatever and he would've got the message.He thought in his ****ed up drunken haze that she was coming on to him.He misread it totally but what happened after was totally unnecessary.Jeremy was an idiot but the overeaction is ridiculous.

[abhorson]

They would probably call him a perv and slap him or tell him they're not interested not try winning an Oscar afterwards.
People get drunk,They do silly things.Women do it too but somehow that's ok.I've had my arse and balls grabbed by women i did'nt know,they're not saints.
Jeremy was wrong.
Chloe was'nt asking for and did'nt deserve to have her robe touched by how she was dressed or because she's a page 3 girl but it happened.It was a minor drunken misunderstanding that could have been resolved much more maturely.No need for the dramatics specially from Perez.Chloe should've said 'No that's not ok,I'm not interested' or told him to '**** off' or whatever and he would've got the message.He thought in his ****ed up drunken haze that she was coming on to him.He misread it totally but what happened after was totally unnecessary.Jeremy was an idiot but the overeaction is ridiculous.


He was removed and rightly so.

But again if a stranger did that to your/potential daughter. Would you not have gave him a slap?

[jaxie]

If a stranger did that to a relative of yours?

Perspective?
If a stranger did what? Touched a robe to encourage it to open? Made a drunken pass? Why are you implying its more?

If it was a relative of mine I'd sympathise with them.that's it. He doesn't deserve to be beaten for making a mistake, no.

[jaxie]

Because it's bad to be a nice person, obviously.

You obviously have no understanding of what I wrote and are running on pure drama and emotion. You seem far more upset than Chloe was who wants to meet Jeremy and chat after BB.

[Northern Monkey]

He was removed and rightly so.

But again if a stranger did that to your/potential daughter. Would you not have gave him a slap?

Yes.He deserved a slap and i would'nt have said a bad word about Chloe if she had slapped him.He was hammered though and i don't think he deserves to be branded almost a rapist when according to both of them he did'nt actually touch her.I can see how he could have misread it in the state he was in and he came on to her in a not at all subtle way but i think they would have worked it out and probably been friends had he stayed in.