If that happened to a man, would anyone have been expelled?

[The Penguin]

double standards

[-Sue-]

point is .. it didn't happen to a man..

[Lostie!]

It did happen to a man in BB14. Hazel pulled down Daley's boxer shorts. She was warned, but not removed.

That said, I think the context matters. If it happened to a man and he was seriously upset / uncomfortable by it, perhaps the woman would be removed. I'd hope so, anyway.

[Denver]

No because men are not aloud to be exploited

[Marsh.]

It's not double standards because that hasn't happened.

Are you mystic meg?

[chuff me dizzy]

If Chloe had been a man and had walked into the toilet uninvited as she did, she would have been removed

[-Sue-]

It did happen to a man in BB14. Hazel pulled down Daley's boxer shorts. She was warned, but not removed.

That said, I think the context matters. If it happened to a man and he was seriously upset / uncomfortable by it, perhaps the woman would be removed. I'd hope so, anyway.
oops heh glad I missed that :D small furry objects scare me :joker:

[Jamesy]

Nope.

If Jeremy ran out crying because Chloe grabbed his penis no one would react. Chloe would just get a warning for it.

Although it's impossible for us to judge a double standard as this hasn't happened. On paper it's unlikely the same cause of events would happen though and the woman would just get a strong warning at most.

[The Penguin]

It did happen to a man in BB14. Hazel pulled down Daley's boxer shorts. She was warned, but not removed.

That said, I think the context matters. If it happened to a man and he was seriously upset / uncomfortable by it, perhaps the woman would be removed. I'd hope so, anyway.

Was she asked to sleep in another room like Jeremy was?

[Liam-]

If Chloe had been a man and had walked into the toilet uninvited as she did, she would have been removed

No she/he wouldn't have :unsure:

[Denver]

Was she asked to sleep in another room like Jeremy was?

No

[AnnieK]

Was she asked to sleep in another room like Jeremy was?

No, thy probably thought she'd had enough punishment after Daley half choked her

[Liam-]

No, thy probably thought she'd had enough punishment after Daley half choked her

:clap1:

[Daniel.]

Daley had just chocked the women, of course she wasn't told to sit in another room.

The **** people spout in here makes me sick.

[The Penguin]

I didn't know about the full details about the incident with Daley.

Although I can say for sure that if a woman had done to a man what Jeremy done to Chloe she would not have been expelled.

[coolface]

am I the only one who noticed cami alluding to domestic violence? In I think the second episode somebody asked her if kirk norcross had cheated on her, and she said no because if he had she would be in prison... what

[unoino]

Its a joke...surely Jeremy will be back...Chloe can not be real

[Daniel.]

It depends how the man reacted.

[Gusto Brunt]

point is .. it didn't happen to a man..

But what did happen? We're banned from seeing the video. :conf2:

[mazerunner_888]

I don't think you can compare this happening to a man as the same thing. If it happens to a man its not threatening but to a woman it is. That's not a double standard it's just how it is.

[Liam-]

am I the only one who noticed cami alluding to domestic violence? somebody asked her if kirk norcross had cheated on her, and she said if he had she would be in prison... what

I'm pretty sure she was alluding to her chopping off a certain vital male limb :hehe:

[Lostie!]

I don't think you can compare this happening to a man as the same thing. If it happens to a man its not threatening but to a woman it is. That's not a double standard it's just how it is.

No, that actually is a double standard. Surely, it's inappropriate to expose someone else, period?

[Denver]

I don't think you can compare this happening to a man as the same thing. If it happens to a man its not threatening but to a woman it is. That's not a double standard it's just how it is.

What a sick thing to say

so a man cant be a victim of sexual or physical abuse

you need to look it up

[mazerunner_888]

No, that actually is a double standard. Surely, it's inappropriate to expose someone else, period?

It is inappropriate of course but I don't think it's threatening in the same way.

Woman exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes woman = inappropriate + threatening

Woman exposes woman = inappropriate

[The Penguin]

am I the only one who noticed cami alluding to domestic violence? In I think the second episode somebody asked her if kirk norcross had cheated on her, and she said no because if he had she would be in prison... what

She's wrong about one thing. She wouldn't be in prison. The cops will laugh at him for complaining about being hit by a woman and at most she will get is a restraining order.
However if he tried to defend himself when she was attacking him and he pushed her to the floor, he's spend at least a night in jail possibly more.

Gender equality in 2015!

[T*]

It didn't happen to a man though so shut up- You're making this section trash

[T*]

No, thy probably thought she'd had enough punishment after Daley half choked her

:clap1:

[The Penguin]

It didn't happen to a man though so shut up- You're making this section trash

It's a fair question. You can always put me on ignore. Please do.

[jaxie]

If Chloe had been a man and had walked into the toilet uninvited as she did, she would have been removed

Again chuff I have to agree with you. She shouldn't have been in the toilet. He shouldn't have touched. No one completely without fault.

[chuff me dizzy]

Again chuff I have to agree with you. She shouldn't have been in the toilet. He shouldn't have touched. No one completely without fault.

And I agree with you, if she had minded her own business, none of this would have happened, he was only being sick fgs, he wasn't bleeding to death, over-reaction for camera time, and it ended up with someone being removed and no doubt the tag of "groping"will stick on him, no need for it to happen

[Babayaro.]

Absolutely not.

[Liam-]

Only on TiBB could a girl helping someone who is throwing up be responsible if a drunkard make an untoward advance on her :facepalm:

[Babayaro.]

It is inappropriate of course but I don't think it's threatening in the same way.

Woman exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes woman = inappropriate + threatening

Woman exposes woman = inappropriate

Nice logic there...

[RichardG]

Only on TiBB could a girl helping someone who is throwing up be responsible if a drunkard make an untoward advance on her :facepalm:

:clap1:

She went into the toilet to help a man who was drunk and felt ill, not to have sex with him. :umm2: literally almost everyone would help their friend in that situation.

(although I seriously disagree with the comments saying it wouldn't be threatening if a woman exposed a man in a dark empty toilet... I'd at least feel pretty intimidated, it's not a nice thing to do to anyone of either gender)

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm pretty sure she was alluding to her chopping off a certain vital male limb :hehe:

Is a penis a limb? :shocked:

[Lostie!]

It is inappropriate of course but I don't think it's threatening in the same way.

Woman exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes man = inappropriate

Man exposes woman = inappropriate + threatening

Woman exposes woman = inappropriate

It could definitely still be threatening to a man. Many men have been victims of domestic violence for example, so there's no reason to think that a woman can't be threatening towards a man in this situation either.

[Liam-]

Is a penis a limb? :shocked:

Depends how big it is :hehe:

[Daniel.]

I don't understand how in any way this is Chloe's fault.

[mazerunner_888]

It could definitely still be threatening to a man. Many men have been victims of domestic violence for example, so there's no reason to think that a woman can't be threatening towards a man in this situation either.

If the girls pulled down Jeremy pants and laughed. I think even if he was pissed about it he would not of felt threatened in the same way. I also think at worse the girls would of got a warning no more.

[Marsh.]

Half the frigging house was in and out of that toilet to help him when he was ill. Yet it's her fault he pulled open her robe? Ok then.

[Vicky.]

Nope.

If Jeremy ran out crying because Chloe grabbed his penis no one would react. Chloe would just get a warning for it.

Although it's impossible for us to judge a double standard as this hasn't happened. On paper it's unlikely the same cause of events would happen though and the woman would just get a strong warning at most.

LOL..just thinking what the general viewer opinion would be on here...and also the housemates reaction. I suspect a lot of laughing, man ups, lucky bastard, etc etc

[mazerunner_888]

LOL..just thinking what the general viewer opinion would be on here...and also the housemates reaction. I suspect a lot of laughing, man ups, lucky bastard, etc etc

Exactly as its not the same thing if a woman does it to a man which I am fine with. It's about intent and I think a womans intent would be very different from a mans.

[Gusto Brunt]

Depends how big it is :hehe:

I guess you have a point.

[Gusto Brunt]

Exactly as its not the same thing if a woman does it to a man which I am fine with. It's about intent and I think a womans intent would be very different from a mans.

But I've had women grab my downstairs package in clubs. What was their intent??

[Jamesy]

Exactly as its not the same thing if a woman does it to a man which I am fine with. It's about intent and I think a womans intent would be very different from a mans.

That's a rather general view when men being raped by women is a thing (if uncommon).

A woman could intend the same as a man. It can range from something innocent to something volatile.

[danielleahMarshal]

[QUOTE=Lostie!;7469367]It did happen to a man in BB14. Hazel pulled down Daley's boxer shorts. She was warned, but not removed.

That said, I think the context matters. If it happened to a man and he was seriously upset / uncomfortable by it, perhaps the woman would be removed. I'd hope so, anyway.[/QUOTE

I agree wid this 100. I am a woman and personally its unnacceptable. Bb got dis one totally wrong.

[joeysteele]

I think Jeremy was wrong in what he is perceived to have done but the op asks a question I have to answer with a no,they wouldn't have been ejected likely.

I recall Denise Welch flashing herself at Michael in the house, the bedroom in fact, and she wasn't ejected.

Also at Uni,I have seen guys get into massive trouble for 'inappropriately' being too close to females while on the other hand I have seen females virtually all over guys at Uni,inappropriately touching them and uninvited too, where the guys got virtually laughed at if they made a fuss as to it.

I said on another thread I found it odd anyway that so many females were around a guy being sick,best to just let him get sorted and rather than be there near all the time.
I for sure wouldn't be, even for a friend, I would call to them and say are you okay but I wouldn't be a hand holder while someone was being sick.

[Johnnyuk123]

Chloe did nothing wrong and when she comes out of the house she will prove it by not being tits out on the front page of the daily star to kiss and tell all i promise you.:hehe:

[coffee]

If it was clear that it affected him then yes, I think whoever assaulted him would be removed.

If Chloe was like "LOL! HAHA, NICE ONE JEZZA INNIT" I think big bro would have kept Jeremy in even if it did affect Chloe but she didn't show it.

End of the day, though. Even if anyone is clearly assaulted and is LOL about it or EW about it, the assaulter should get the boot no matter what.