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Northern Monkey
12-01-2015, 12:08 AM
Very disapointing.Where's this vile mega bitch we were all promised?Or is she just a keyboard/diary room warrior?It seems that when it comes to the crunch her bitch mask falls off and she roots around looking for it until the confrontation has subsided.I thought she would have picked Perez up,Chewed his leg off and spat it in his face but no...nothing.I hope she warms up soon,It's quite embarrassing that Reg Holdsworth is providing more controversy and entertainment.

Shaun
12-01-2015, 12:09 AM
said it before and will say it again: Samantha Brick II.

Stevep
12-01-2015, 12:10 AM
Most of her bitching has come from the safety of the diary room.

Brother Leon
12-01-2015, 12:12 AM
Because that's what she is. A normal person who says things to troll and get attention every now and then. She only ranks up the Bitch meter when in the Diary Room and the Camera is focused purely on her. I tried tell everyone who kept begging for her to go in that it's all an act, but whatever :laugh:

abhorson
12-01-2015, 12:18 AM
It always was an act to earn herself money. Not many would get away with it in real life without being slapped. Not much different from being a critic, just a job.

A nasty job, but a job. Not much difference between her and Liz Jones. They have the balls and bluster to do it. But i bet they still don't like it.

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 12:52 AM
She's been really dull so far, her insults are very mundane, and I really hate the way she speaks, it's like stop patronising me and just say the ****ing word!

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 12:53 AM
The Hopkins Brigade are slowly realising the obvious. :clap1:

Macie Lightfoot
12-01-2015, 12:59 AM
Or is she just a keyboard/diary room warrior?It seems that when it comes to the crunch her bitch mask falls off and she roots around looking for it until the confrontation has subsided.

Yup.

said it before and will say it again: Samantha Brick II.

Hopkins has nothing on Samantha Brick <3

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:15 AM
She has learned the secret between her job and social interaction with people that don't deserve her wrath, at least not yet anyway. I find it very disturbing that people expect her to be a nasty bitch all the time just to aid the programmes ethos. She probably is keeping her powder dry for the end and is letting people like Perez and ken kill themselves off as time goes by. The game starts in the final week not the first week.

arista
12-01-2015, 01:17 AM
Most of her bitching has come from the safety of the diary room.


Yes True

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:19 AM
When people are jumping off the edge of buildings all day long, there is no need to push anyone yet.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:20 AM
When people are jumping off the edge of buildings all day long, there is no need to push anyone yet.

But I thought her "tell it like it is" was just who she was?

So it's just an act she flicks on and off at will? :smug:

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:23 AM
But I thought her "tell it like it is" was just who she was?

So it's just an act she flicks on and off at will? :smug:

She is pacing herself. sprinters don't win marathons.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:24 AM
She is pacing herself. sprinters don't win marathons.

So... she's not so honest.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:26 AM
But I thought her "tell it like it is" was just who she was?

So it's just an act she flicks on and off at will? :smug:

If indeed it is an act that she can flip on and off, she deserves kudos for making millions out of this act. She is now beginning to get the publics attention, hence her favouritism on the books and so far she seems to be a very balanced and calculated individual. I am sorry she isn't completing you by being a nasty bitch but there is still time for her to fullfill you, don't give up on her yet.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:28 AM
If indeed it is an act that she can flip on and off, she deserves kudos for making millions out of this act. She is now beginning to get the publics attention, hence her favouritism on the books and so far she seems to be a very balanced and calculated individual. I am sorry she isn't completing you by being a nasty bitch but there is still time for her to fullfill you, don't give up on her yet.

I don't want her to be a nasty bitch. I don't even want her in the house.

She's a no mark with no personality.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:28 AM
So... she's not so honest.

That's your opinion, but you seem to be in the minority according to the bookies.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:29 AM
That's your opinion, but you seem to be in the minority according to the bookies.

According to the bookies?

Odds of her winning hasn't got anything to do with whether she's a complete no mark fake or not.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:29 AM
I don't want her to be a nasty bitch. I don't even want her in the house.

She's a no mark with no personality.

Is that why she is the favourite then, I am confused.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:30 AM
Is that why she is the favourite then, I am confused.

Sorry? The bookies favourite has what to do with my opinion of her?

Launch night twists tend to provide early favourites, not to mention the amount of attention she got in the build up to the series. She'll drop like a bag of **** as the series continues.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:30 AM
According to the bookies?

Odds of her winning hasn't got anything to do with whether she's a complete no mark fake or not.

As I said before, your opinions are accepted but they seem to be wrong according to the overall masses that levy votes, bets and opinion polls which she is doing well in.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:32 AM
As I said before, your opinions are accepted but they seem to be wrong according to the overall masses that levy votes, bets and opinion polls which she is doing well in.

Opinions aren't wrong my love. But Katie Hopkins herself struggles with simple information like that during her scripted rants so I'm not surprised.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:32 AM
Sorry? The bookies favourite has what to do with my opinion of her?

Launch night twists tend to provide early favourites, not to mention the amount of attention she got in the build up to the series. She'll drop like a bag of **** as the series continues.

You might be right and you might be wrong. we will see, but on balance, she seems to be ahead of the game.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:33 AM
You might be right and you might be wrong. we will see, but on balance, she seems to be ahead of the game.

So was Pauline. Look what happened there.

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 01:33 AM
Is that why she is the favourite then, I am confused.

The bookies have got Michelle up there as well who stands absolutely no chance of winning when it comes down to it.

The Bookies are just a guideline, you can't take it too seriously.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:33 AM
My love ????? that's a little patronising. I am not being rude to you.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:34 AM
I am sorry she isn't completing you by being a nasty bitch but there is still time for her to fullfill you

.

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 01:35 AM
Are you having sex with her Marsh? That quote seems to suggest so.:joker:

Rob!
12-01-2015, 01:35 AM
My view on Katie is that it's pretty obvious that the Twitter and be a bitch thing is a character. Let's be honest, she's been nothing but reasonable in there for the most part and the way she dealt with Perez tonight was nothing short of brilliant.
I do wonder if she's gone in there expecting to be able to be a bitch to everyone and then found the experience has made her no different to the rest of them. Her pretty pointless little secret mission was an attempt to give her a foot in the door to get herself in the place where the producers paid for her to be in but amongst such huge characters and volitile surroundings, she's found herself shrinking.
When Perez was giving her **** in the task everybody leapt to her defence (though I noticed Nadia stayed quiet but jumped on Ken) which suggests that they all quite like her.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:36 AM
Are you having sex with her Marsh? That quote seems to suggest so.:joker:

http://share.gifyoutube.com/y0YlM5.gif

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:36 AM
.

That's cherry picking and you know it was not meant as a snub. I was simply stating facts. Anyway its bed time so I will bid you good night and pray Katie gets a little more feisty.

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 01:37 AM
http://share.gifyoutube.com/y0YlM5.gif

I can't see the Youtube video.

So is it a yes or a no?

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:37 AM
That's cherry picking and you know it was not meant as a snub. I was simply stating facts. Anyway its bed time so I will bid you good night and pray Katie gets a little more feisty.

You cherry picked something of mine which wasn't meant as a snub.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:37 AM
I can't see the Youtube video.

So is it a yes or a no?

It's not a youtube video. :laugh:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-01-2015, 01:38 AM
shoving your hand in someones face and repeating the word 'no' 86 times is dealing with someone brilliantly?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b08ff4293df075c7007f420b0b0546b1/tumblr_mj1ygb6Iv61qhhwxno1_500.jpg

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 01:39 AM
It's not a youtube video. :laugh:

Yeah the picture has shown up for me now.:joker:

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:39 AM
shoving your hand in someones face and repeating the word 'no' 86 times is dealing with someone brilliantly?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b08ff4293df075c7007f420b0b0546b1/tumblr_mj1ygb6Iv61qhhwxno1_500.jpg

Scott I thought you liked her.

Macie Lightfoot
12-01-2015, 01:39 AM
Sorry? The bookies favourite has what to do with my opinion of her?

Launch night twists tend to provide early favourites, not to mention the amount of attention she got in the build up to the series. She'll drop like a bag of **** as the series continues.

Unfortunately I feel like we're headed towards a Katie win whether we like it or not. We're in an era of BBUK where the controlling vote is the conservatives who reject PC culture and she would fit in nicely with Jim, Helen, and Gary.

Rob!
12-01-2015, 01:39 AM
shoving your hand in someones face and repeating the word 'no' 86 times is dealing with someone brilliantly?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b08ff4293df075c7007f420b0b0546b1/tumblr_mj1ygb6Iv61qhhwxno1_500.jpg

Didn't he feel the need to apologise to her in tears?

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-01-2015, 01:40 AM
Scott I thought you liked her.

no :unsure:

and i am not scott i am rose

Rob!
12-01-2015, 01:40 AM
Unfortunately I feel like we're headed towards a Katie win whether we like it or not. We're in an era of BBUK where the controlling vote is the conservatives who reject PC culture and she would fit in nicely with Jim, Helen, and Gary.

Those three winners were completely different types of people :laugh:
I'm guessing you didn't want any of them to win?

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:40 AM
Didn't he feel the need to apologise to her in tears?

Yes I thought the same, he seems frightened of her.

Rob!
12-01-2015, 01:41 AM
no :unsure:

and i am not scott i am rose

Kellie teas.

sampvt
12-01-2015, 01:41 AM
no :unsure:

and i am not scott i am rose

Im santa then, lol.

Nighty nighty Scott.

Macie Lightfoot
12-01-2015, 01:45 AM
Those three winners were completely different types of people :laugh:
I'm guessing you didn't want any of them to win?

Jim and Gary had identical paths to victory, and add Helen to that group and it's evident that every series in 2014 came down to old-fashioned conservatives rejecting PC cultures in attempt to protect their freedom of speech. Like, I'm not entirely sure Shilpa would have won if her series happened today and that's rather frightening.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
12-01-2015, 01:47 AM
rose*

Rob!
12-01-2015, 01:50 AM
Jim and Gary had identical paths to victory, and add Helen to that group and it's evident that every series in 2014 came down to old-fashioned conservatives rejecting PC cultures in attempt to protect their freedom of speech. Like, I'm not entirely sure Shilpa would have won if her series happened today and that's rather frightening.

Jim was tackled by one housemate throughout her time in the house and maybe brushed a few other people up the wrong way, but remained fairly stoic and level headed throughout the entire series.

Gary single handedly brought an entire house to it's knees whilst gaining support from the rest of the house's enemies and there was nothing anybody could do about it, despite ganging up on him.

Helen is probably the most shocking win in BB history (besides perhaps Ulrika) because she spent the entire 3 months being argumentative, aggressive and confrontational, whilst also managing to be offensive.

Helen is maybe the only one you could use a freedom of speech argument for.

Mystic Mock
12-01-2015, 01:50 AM
Unfortunately I feel like we're headed towards a Katie win whether we like it or not. We're in an era of BBUK where the controlling vote is the conservatives who reject PC culture and she would fit in nicely with Jim, Helen, and Gary.

I actually think all three of the contestants there was quite entertaining, but I feel that the death of all the Reality TV Shows is that it's always constantly controlled by Conservative Housewives, and horny teenage boys and girls, any middle ground voters that voted for who actually was the best in these series have mainly stopped watching and we've got anarchy on shows like BB nowadays, and I think that it's killing TXF.

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:52 AM
Post reported, good night.

Ffs, get a sense of humour. :joker::joker::joker:

Macie Lightfoot
12-01-2015, 02:34 AM
Jim was tackled by one housemate throughout her time in the house and maybe brushed a few other people up the wrong way, but remained fairly stoic and level headed throughout the entire series.

Gary single handedly brought an entire house to it's knees whilst gaining support from the rest of the house's enemies and there was nothing anybody could do about it, despite ganging up on him.

Helen is probably the most shocking win in BB history (besides perhaps Ulrika) because she spent the entire 3 months being argumentative, aggressive and confrontational, whilst also managing to be offensive.

Helen is maybe the only one you could use a freedom of speech argument for.

The voting logic behind these three were of pretty similar mindsets, though. They're all largely relevant, polarizing characters with sizable fanbases who placed them on a pedestal, where they could do no wrong and how dare anyone wrong them. Jim and Gary particularly had identical paths to victory, deliberately winding the others up and then playing the maturity trump card or the goodness and wholeness trump card before walking away before the others had the chance to air their legitimate grievances. The only real difference is that Jim's much more malicious and Gary's much more self-serving.

I actually think all three of the contestants there was quite entertaining, but I feel that the death of all the Reality TV Shows is that it's always constantly controlled by Conservative Housewives, and horny teenage boys and girls, any middle ground voters that voted for who actually was the best in these series have mainly stopped watching and we've got anarchy on shows like BB nowadays, and I think that it's killing TXF.

I mean, fair play if you value them as entertaining characters. I don't agree myself (especially not about Jim and Helen) but to each their own, you know? However, to continue to touch on what I was getting at above with Rob, what does concern me is the large number of voters who supported them because they see them as legitimate heroes.

Like, the people who view Jim as the wounded victim in incidents like Frank Carson's dressing room. The people who view Helen as some truth-telling goddess who constantly told it how it was even when she would just mishear people and twist their words. The people who praise Gary as the most lovely, kind, harmless Hollywood legend when objectively he was an exhaustingly eccentric and abrasive elderly man who went through a lot of **** including brain damage and drug overdoses, and even though the others treated him like **** their frustration was often reasonable at base level.

It's frameworks like those when I start to realize the mental gymnastics that the anti-PC crowd goes through to defend their favorites and we're already seeing the same thing with Katie Hopkins. The people who praise her as a truth-telling legend even though all she's done is give unfunny DRs, failing to live up to hype. The people who are vilifying Nadia of all people, if only because they fear she'll be Katie's main opposition soon enough. The people who actually stand by Katie's viewpoints and unironically worship her as a rejection of PC culture for saying the things that nobody dares to say. There really isn't much of a talent in saying whatever the **** you want with no concern for others, but the opposition to the PC brigade will continue to tell themselves otherwise and Katie will walk out of the house in a month or so, ostensibly "a changed woman" or some **** and probably the winner.

Ammi
12-01-2015, 04:28 AM
..is se being nice..?...all I can see is someone who doesn't have much personality without time to prepare a script and although Perez shouldn't have targeted her the way he did during the task, she acted like a screeching fishwife....Michelle could give her some lessons in how to command attention without shouting as loud as she can...

Lostie!
12-01-2015, 10:33 AM
I don't care how "nice" she acts in the house. Nobody who says and does the things she does is a decent person imo. Whether her awful public persona is real or an act, she's a highly unlikeable person for it either way.

"You're making people cry!" was particularly hilarious. Like she, of all people, cares about that. :laugh2:

sampvt
12-01-2015, 10:44 AM
Ffs, get a sense of humour. :joker::joker::joker:

Play by the rules and stop acting the big boy then. Rules apply to everyone.

RichardG
12-01-2015, 10:44 AM
It's been obvious for months that her endless stream of nasty comments were all just an act, but you'd think she would want to keep up the act in the house because no one will take her seriously when she comes out and tries to maintain the same personality.

Suze
12-01-2015, 11:19 AM
I don't care how "nice" she acts in the house. Nobody who says and does the things she does is a decent person imo. Whether her awful public persona is real or an act, she's a highly unlikeable person for it either way.

"You're making people cry!" was particularly hilarious. Like she, of all people, cares about that. :laugh2:

I agree wholeheartedly with you Lostie, to put on an act is one thing, to do so in such a diabolical way that could effect a few people who can be too weak in self esteem to take such comments is disgusting in or out the BB house.

She is not a nice person at all, there are other ways to attention seek without resorting to the way she does it. Plus if she acted her age rather than her shoe size, she would know there is a world of difference between being too truthful and being diplomatic and tactful with truths instead of using spitefulness for reaction. I hope what goes around comes around, and Karma bites her in the bum and she falls down with a bump soon enough.

Lostie!
12-01-2015, 11:27 AM
I agree wholeheartedly with you Lostie, to put on an act is one thing, to do so in such a diabolical way that could effect a few people who can be too weak in self esteem to take such comments is disgusting in or out the BB house.

She is not a nice person at all, there are other ways to attention seek without resorting to the way she does it. Plus if she acted her age rather than her shoe size, she would know there is a world of difference between being too truthful and being diplomatic and tactful with truths instead of using spitefulness for reaction. I hope what goes around comes around, and Karma bites her in the bum and she falls down with a bump soon enough.

It's nice to see there are still some likeminded people around. I was losing all faith in the Katie support I've seen. :shocked:

Take her joke about Pauline Cafferkey (the Scottish nurse suffering with Ebola) for example. Joke or not, mocking her on Twitter would have of course caused upset for her loved ones. Hiding behind the "it's just a joke" or "it's just honesty" excuses is no defence for being a horrible person, which Hopkins truly is.

Suze
12-01-2015, 11:36 AM
It's nice to see there are still some likeminded people around. I was losing all faith in the Katie support I've seen. :shocked:

Take her joke about Pauline Cafferkey (the Scottish nurse suffering with Ebola) for example. Joke or not, mocking her on Twitter would have of course caused upset for her loved ones. Hiding behind the "it's just a joke" or "it's just honesty" excuses is no defence for being a horrible person, which Hopkins truly is.

Very likeminded it would seem :) As my top four supports at the mo at least are the exact same four in your siggy in that order.

Kazanne
12-01-2015, 11:44 AM
In really don't think she is caustic all the time in real life , she is asked her opinions and gives them , are people trying to say she is a 'bitch' 24/7 ? She's had no reason yet to be a 'bitch' but on saying that she has thrown a couple of things out there . lol People seem desperate for her to be 'nasty'.

Lostie!
12-01-2015, 11:47 AM
Very likeminded it would seem :) As my top four supports at the mo at least are the exact same four in your siggy in that order.

:thumbs:

In really don't think she is caustic all the time in real life , she is asked her opinions and gives them , are people trying to say she is a 'bitch' 24/7 ? She's had no reason yet to be a 'bitch' but on saying that she has thrown a couple of things out there . lol People seem desperate for her to be 'nasty'.

She has no reason to say plenty of the horrible things she does in real life, yet she does anyway. :shrug:

Tarryn
12-01-2015, 11:49 AM
I think Katie is intimidated by Michelle.
Michelle would rip Katie apart in an argument.

Pincho Paxton
12-01-2015, 11:54 AM
She shagged a married man so she is a bitch deep down too.

bots
12-01-2015, 11:55 AM
I'm quite happy to see a more sensible side to Katie, if that is what we are indeed seeing. She can't be a nasty so and so 24/7 its just not possible as that would just be an act. I'm pretty sure that there have been no big brother winners that have successfully acted their way through the entire show.

Niamh.
12-01-2015, 11:55 AM
..is se being nice..?...all I can see is someone who doesn't have much personality without time to prepare a script and although Perez shouldn't have targeted her the way he did during the task, she acted like a screeching fishwife....Michelle could give her some lessons in how to command attention without shouting as loud as she can...

:clap2:

Jase.
12-01-2015, 11:56 AM
Why on earth are people surprised? She was a total bore in the jungle -shrug-

Denver
12-01-2015, 11:56 AM
I think she is only outspoken against people she dislikes and although she can be seen as a 'Cyber Bully' it seems she dislikes bullies hence defending Ken

Marsh.
12-01-2015, 01:09 PM
Play by the rules and stop acting the big boy then. Rules apply to everyone.

:crazy:

chuff me dizzy
12-01-2015, 01:19 PM
Did I or did I not tell you she was a nice person ?she is straight talking, but deep down nice

drantb
12-01-2015, 01:24 PM
Yeah, I'm fairly disappointed to be honest.

I knew her entire post-Apprentice media career was an act, but I did think she might keep it up while in the house, even for the first few weeks. She just seems to be a fairly mundane but friendly person at the moment.

Niamh.
12-01-2015, 01:25 PM
Did I or did I not tell you she was a nice person ?she is straight talking, but deep down nice

There's a difference between being straight talking and purposely saying nasty things (ie. ginger people are ugly, mocking Scottish people and that ebola sufferer) to provoke a reaction. "Nice people" don't do that kind of thing imo

Lostie!
12-01-2015, 01:26 PM
There's a difference between being straight talking and purposely saying nasty things (ie. ginger people are ugly, mocking Scottish people and that ebola sufferer) to provoke a reaction. "Nice people" don't do that kind of thing imo

:clap2: