Why did Nadia make stuff up

[Denver]

By saying that if woman go around showing flesh some people think they deserve to be raped it was the biggest piece of BS ever and you could tell she was trying to turn the house on Ken

[chuff me dizzy]

By saying that if woman go around showing flesh some people think they deserve to be raped it was the biggest piece of BS ever and you could tell she was trying to turn the house on Ken

And she did it ,once again Katie showed integrity by keeping out of it as ddi Kav and Alex

[Gusto Brunt]

By saying that if woman go around showing flesh some people think they deserve to be raped it was the biggest piece of BS ever and you could tell she was trying to turn the house on Ken

I agree, Nadia is a stirrer.

[Denver]

And she did it ,once again Katie showed integrity by keeping out of it as ddi Kav and Alex

I think bring rape out of nowhere was disgraceful

[chuff me dizzy]

I think bring rape out of nowhere was disgraceful

A vile, evil cow

[Niamh.]

I don't think she was accusing Jeremy of rape or anything like it. It was more a reflection on what Ken said to Chloe about what she was wearing. I thought it myself yesterday on here when people were blaming Chloe because she only had a dressing gown on, it was nothing to do with what jeremy actually did and more to do with what people were saying that about Chloe and that she almost deserved to have her clothes pulled open because of what she was wearing.

[Northern Monkey]

A vile, evil cow

This

[Vanessa]

I can't stand her now. I know Ken was awful, but she's not much better.

[jaxie]

I don't think she was accusing Jeremy of rape or anything like it. It was more a reflection on what Ken said to Chloe about what she was wearing. I thought it myself yesterday on here when people were blaming Chloe because she only had a dressing gown on, it was nothing to do with what jeremy actually did and more to do with what people were saying that about Chloe and that she almost deserved to have her clothes pulled open because of what she was wearing.

I think she naively allowed herself to be vulnerable but that is in no way saying she deserved anything and has nothing to do with what she was wearing. I think that people read a lot more into what others say sometimes and add on implications that are not voiced.

I think that you can have an opinion on the circumstances without people assuming you think she deserved what happened. Its like a horror film. They always go upstairs when they hear the noise. I'm sitting here by the TV thinking, noooo run away.

[Ellen]

I think she naively allowed herself to be vulnerable but that is in no way saying she deserved anything and has nothing to do with what she was wearing. I think that people read a lot more into what others say sometimes and add on implications that are not voiced.

This is what Ken told Chloe, she naively put herself in that position. He at no time say it was basically ok to rape a woman because she wore a short skirt & low cut top which is what Nadia told the others he had said.

[jaxie]

This is what Ken told Chloe, she naively put herself in that position. He at no time say it was basically ok to rape a woman because she wore a short skirt & low cut top which is what Nadia told the others he had said.

Ken was kind of right on that and Nadia did exactly what people on the forums do, she embellished it.

[bots]

I don't think she was accusing Jeremy of rape or anything like it. It was more a reflection on what Ken said to Chloe about what she was wearing. I thought it myself yesterday on here when people were blaming Chloe because she only had a dressing gown on, it was nothing to do with what jeremy actually did and more to do with what people were saying that about Chloe and that she almost deserved to have her clothes pulled open because of what she was wearing.

The big difference is that although you may not like the view being expressed by the member on the forum, it is an opinion that they are entitled to have, right or wrong. Ken on the other hand got minced because they are on a TV show, and they want to improve their chances of winning

[Gusto Brunt]

A vile, evil cow

She quickly becoming the new Pauline.

http://images.ok.co.uk/1402349625_bb-day-5-nominations-jale-pauline-bennett-tamara-swearing-vote.jpg

[Vanessa]

She quickly becoming the new Pauline.

http://images.ok.co.uk/1402349625_bb-day-5-nominations-jale-pauline-bennett-tamara-swearing-vote.jpg

Yes! :joker:

[Niamh.]

I still disagree, don't get me wrong I think Nadia was really inflaming the situation last night but I get the comparison she was making on that one thing. Kens attitude was to blame the girl, feel sorry for the poor guy which is wrong and it did sound very much like that whole "oh she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing" His attitude towards women and their role in life seems extremely primitive and very sexist, this was demonstrated a number of times by a number of comments, the worst being (imo) what he said to Chloe about Jeremy being a movie producer or whatever and she basically should have let him do what he wanted so she might further her career

[MrWong]

I still disagree, don't get me wrong I think Nadia was really inflaming the situation last night but I get the comparison she was making on that one thing. Kens attitude was to blame the girl, feel sorry for the poor guy which is wrong and it did sound very much like that whole "oh she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing" His attitude towards women and their role in life seems extremely primitive and very sexist, this was demonstrated a number of times by a number of comments, the worst being (imo) what he said to Chloe about Jeremy being a movie producer or whatever and she basically should have let him do what he wanted so she might further her career

:clap1:

That comment alone showed his disturbing sexist mindset.

[bots]

I still disagree, don't get me wrong I think Nadia was really inflaming the situation last night but I get the comparison she was making on that one thing. Kens attitude was to blame the girl, feel sorry for the poor guy which is wrong and it did sound very much like that whole "oh she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing" His attitude towards women and their role in life seems extremely primitive and very sexist, this was demonstrated a number of times by a number of comments, the worst being (imo) what he said to Chloe about Jeremy being a movie producer or whatever and she basically should have let him do what he wanted so she might further her career

I'm not trying to defend Ken and his statement, don't get me wrong. But that comment you took such offense to is not breaking the law, you may not agree with it, but he is perfectly entitled to say it. This is the danger with PC related topics. It suffers from scope creep where things get added to the bucket that is "not correct to say", and before we know it, people can't say anything any more.

[Niamh.]

I'm not trying to defend Ken and his statement, don't get me wrong. But that comment you took such offense to is not breaking the law, you may not agree with it, but he is perfectly entitled to say it. This is the danger with PC related topics. It suffers from scope creep where things get added to the bucket that is "not correct to say", and before we know it, people can't say anything any more.

I never said it was against the law, I said it was incredibly sexist as I am perfectly entitled to say also.

[jaxie]

I still disagree, don't get me wrong I think Nadia was really inflaming the situation last night but I get the comparison she was making on that one thing. Kens attitude was to blame the girl, feel sorry for the poor guy which is wrong and it did sound very much like that whole "oh she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing" His attitude towards women and their role in life seems extremely primitive and very sexist, this was demonstrated a number of times by a number of comments, the worst being (imo) what he said to Chloe about Jeremy being a movie producer or whatever and she basically should have let him do what he wanted so she might further her career
On the comment about the movie producer ken was completely inappropriate. I agree with you on that. I don't agree that thinking she was probably silly to be alone in the toilet with someone very drunk is saying she deserved it. No situation is black and white. I have some sympathy for both of them because it was clearly a spur of the moment drunken mistake that was upsetting for her and is going to publicly haunt him for a long time. What it wasnt from what I saw and heard was some kind of predetory attack.

[chuff me dizzy]

She quickly becoming the new Pauline.

http://images.ok.co.uk/1402349625_bb-day-5-nominations-jale-pauline-bennett-tamara-swearing-vote.jpg

To think Ive been a fan of Nadia for years, I never knew what she was really like ,I think she's opened a lot of eyes to the real her

[MrWong]

I'm not trying to defend Ken and his statement, don't get me wrong. But that comment you took such offense to is not breaking the law, you may not agree with it, but he is perfectly entitled to say it. This is the danger with PC related topics. It suffers from scope creep where things get added to the bucket that is "not correct to say", and before we know it, people can't say anything any more.

He can say what he wants. Just as people can comment on his outdated, disturbing views.

Go in to work tomorrow and tell the women at work that to get ahead in their job they should be willing to accept sexual advances or comments from men in positions of power. Then report back here.

[Niamh.]

On the comment about the movie producer ken was completely inappropriate. I agree with you on that. I don't agree that thinking she was probably silly to be alone in the toilet with someone very drunk is saying she deserved it. No situation is black and white. I have some sympathy for both of them because it was clearly a spur of the moment drunken mistake that was upsetting for her and is going to publicly haunt him for a long time. What it wasnt from what I saw and heard was some kind of predetory attack.

I actually agree with the BIB, what my main gripe here is though, is people blaming Chloe for any of it or saying she milked it or purposely acted the way she did to get him kicked out, that's unfair imo

[jaxie]

He can say what he wants. Just as people can comment on his outdated, disturbing views.

Go in to work tomorrow and tell the women at work that to get ahead in their job they should be willing to accept sexual advances or comments from men in positions of power. Then report back here.
I think you are taking what the original poster said completely out of context.

[MrWong]

I think you are taking what the original poster said completely out of context.

Really? The poster made out that the reaction to Ken's comments is overly PC. Like it's a bad thing.

[rionablue]

I still disagree, don't get me wrong I think Nadia was really inflaming the situation last night but I get the comparison she was making on that one thing. Kens attitude was to blame the girl, feel sorry for the poor guy which is wrong and it did sound very much like that whole "oh she deserved to be raped because of what she was wearing" His attitude towards women and their role in life seems extremely primitive and very sexist, this was demonstrated a number of times by a number of comments, the worst being (imo) what he said to Chloe about Jeremy being a movie producer or whatever and she basically should have let him do what he wanted so she might further her career

:wavey::wavey: you got it in a nutshell Niamh

[Denver]

Really? The poster made out that the reaction to Ken's comments is overly PC. Like it's a bad thing.

Nadia basically called Jeremy and Ken rapists

[Niamh.]

:wavey::wavey: you got it in a nutshell Niamh

:love:

[Niamh.]

Nadia basically called Jeremy and Ken rapists

I would say calling Ken a rapist sympathiser actually, she didn't say anything about Jeremy really, Kens comments about the situation was what she was talking about

[Kizzy]

But how is that acceptable, how does liking looking at bums make you a rapist sympathiser?
And talking of making things up, where is the footage of this convo between ken and cami where he gives her career advice?... they've shown all his other indiscretions... why not this?

[Pincho Paxton]

She quickly becoming the new Pauline.

http://images.ok.co.uk/1402349625_bb-day-5-nominations-jale-pauline-bennett-tamara-swearing-vote.jpg

I agree, she is the new Pauline.

[Niamh.]

But how is that acceptable, how does liking looking at bums make you a rapist sympathiser?
And talking of making things up, where is the footage of this convo between ken and cami where he gives her career advice?... they've shown all his other indiscretions... why not this?

I wasn't referring to him liking looking at womens bums, i was referring to him blaming Chloe for what she was wearing and for going into the bathroom with Jeremy when he was drunk

[Denver]

I wasn't referring to him liking looking at womens bums, i was referring to him blaming Chloe for what she was wearing and for going into the bathroom with Jeremy when he was drunk

He didnt blame Chloe for what happened and didnt that Convo happen after what she said?

[Kizzy]

I wasn't referring to him liking looking at womens bums, i was referring to him blaming Chloe for what she was wearing and for going into the bathroom with Jeremy when he was drunk

Has ken made a comment about the jeremy incident, where's this?

[Ellen]

He didnt blame Chloe for what happened and didnt that Convo happen after what she said?

Yes and the conversation with Ken in the garden when Nadia went in and told them Ken said it was basically ok to rape women if they wore short skirts & low cup tops was when he had said he see's nothing wrong in admiring a womans bum.

[Denver]

Has ken made a comment about the jeremy incident, where's this?

All he said was she should be carefull going into a bathroom alone with a man with just a robe on and nothing underneath which is true

[Niamh.]

Has ken made a comment about the jeremy incident, where's this?

Yes, it was on last nights HLs

[Kizzy]

Oh, that!

Is that it?... And he's a rapist sympathiser for that then? :/

[Niamh.]

Oh, that!

Is that it?... And he's a rapist sympathiser for that then? :/

Blaming Chloe for Jeremys actions towards her yep I'd say he's one who blames women for mens lack of self control. I've seen how he is in the house and read his opinions outside the house and I've got that opinion of him yeah

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903110/Coronation-Street-s-Ken-Morley-boasts-groped-grabbed-women-1980s-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-housemate.html

[Denver]

Blaming Chloe for Jeremys actions towards her yep I'd say he's one who blames women for mens lack of self control. I've seen how he is in the house and read his opinions outside the house and I've got that opinion of him yeah

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903110/Coronation-Street-s-Ken-Morley-boasts-groped-grabbed-women-1980s-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-housemate.html

OMG are you for real he did not blame Chloe

[Niamh.]

OMG are you for real he did not blame Chloe

:idc:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/whats-on/film-news/ken-morley-suggests-scouse-blood-8434634

[Beso]

Shes almost as attention seeking and annoying as that prat perez!....almost!

[Liam-]

Niamh, i can always rely on you to speak sense :love:

[Beso]

Blaming Chloe for Jeremys actions towards her yep I'd say he's one who blames women for mens lack of self control. I've seen how he is in the house and read his opinions outside the house and I've got that opinion of him yeah

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903110/Coronation-Street-s-Ken-Morley-boasts-groped-grabbed-women-1980s-claims-Celebrity-Big-Brother-housemate.html

he didn't blame her..:nono:

[Denver]

:idc:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/whats-on/film-news/ken-morley-suggests-scouse-blood-8434634

Rewatch it all he said was be careful

[Niamh.]

Niamh, i can always rely on you to speak sense :love:

:love:

[Kizzy]

'They've got the best looking bodies. They've got the best looking a***s - what is wrong with a man looking?'
Nadia was outraged by the comments, interpreting his response to mean to have a connotation about sexual assault.
She suggested that Big Brother call the police before telling her friends: 'He basically saying it's OK to rape some women if they have a short skirts on and a low top.'

He didn't say that, it's NOT what he was inferring and her comments are a total fabrication.


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[Pincho Paxton]

Oh, that!

Is that it?... And he's a rapist sympathiser for that then? :/

It puts a % of the blame on her.

[Niamh.]

he didn't blame her..:nono:

How is this not putting some blame on her? Suggesting that her actions were even partly to blame for what Jeremy did is bang out of order

"Ken then suggested that Chloe had encouraged the situation by “going into a room with a man” that she “barely knows” and wearing nothing but a bathrobe."

[arista]

By saying that if woman go around showing flesh some people think they deserve to be raped it was the biggest piece of BS ever and you could tell she was trying to turn the house on Ken


She thought she was on ITV1HD Loose Women panel



Fat Ass Bitch

[Niamh.]

'They've got the best looking bodies. They've got the best looking a***s - what is wrong with a man looking?'
Nadia was outraged by the comments, interpreting his response to mean to have a connotation about sexual assault.
She suggested that Big Brother call the police before telling her friends: 'He basically saying it's OK to rape some women if they have a short skirts on and a low top.'

He didn't say that, it's NOT what he was inferring and her comments are a total fabrication.


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He said that just after he'd said what he did to Chloe about her being partly responsible for what Jeremy did to her, i would imagine that Nadia was basing what she said on the whole lot of what Ken said in that time.

[Northern Monkey]

'They've got the best looking bodies. They've got the best looking a***s - what is wrong with a man looking?'
Nadia was outraged by the comments, interpreting his response to mean to have a connotation about sexual assault.
She suggested that Big Brother call the police before telling her friends: 'He basically saying it's OK to rape some women if they have a short skirts on and a low top.'

He didn't say that, it's NOT what he was inferring and her comments are a total fabrication.


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:thumbs:That is correct she went into the house and said that after the convo with Ken outside.She went way overboard.

[Kizzy]

He said that just after he'd said what he did to Chloe about her being partly responsible for what Jeremy did to her, i would imagine that Nadia was basing what she said on the whole lot of what Ken said in that time.


Yes you imagine, and nadia imagined .. still doesn't make up for her silly comments though.

[Niamh.]

Yes you imagine, and nadia imagined .. still doesn't make up for her silly comments though.

Super

[MrWong]

All he said was she should be carefull going into a bathroom alone with a man with just a robe on and nothing underneath which is true

You do all men a disservice with comments like this.

Do you honestly believe that men, even if drunk, can't control themselves?

[Denver]

You do all men a disservice with comments like this.

Do you honestly believe that men, even if drunk, can't control themselves?

Jump on the band wagon why dont you

[Niamh.]

You do all men a disservice with comments like this.

Do you honestly believe that men, even if drunk, can't control themselves?

Yep, it really is insulting to men as well but then Ken is used to defending men who grab and grope women since he admitted to being one of those men himself :shrug:

[MrWong]

Jump on the band wagon why dont you

You are suggesting that men can't control their urges.

That's bound to get a reaction.

[Denver]

You are suggesting that men can't control their urges.

That's bound to get a reaction.

Where have i said that?

[Cherie]

How is this not putting some blame on her? Suggesting that her actions were even partly to blame for what Jeremy did is bang out of order

"Ken then suggested that Chloe had encouraged the situation by “going into a room with a man” that she “barely knows” and wearing nothing but a bathrobe."

I don't think he was blaming her, he was just advising her to be a bit more careful and not be so naive as to getting herself into a compromising situation with a stranger, he followed it up by asking the group about their opinion of Jeremy, as it was clear from early on that some if not all the HMs were comfortable with Jeremy's antics. No different to Alexander advising her not get undressed in front of the guys imo.

[Jemal]

She makes pauline look like jesus.

[Liam-]

Then your a disgrace to woman by making things up that actually dont happen

How vile

[poppsywoppsy]

I think Kens remarks about Jeremey to Chloe about his being a producer and to be careful are years out of date, as Ken seems to be a product of the times when this was true.

If women crossed certain people in the industry they would find themselves an outcast when applying for work. When Selina Scott did something Donald Trump was unhappy with, it was said her career was over and in old Hollywood this was rife.

I don't know if this happens today, neither I suspect does Ken.

[bots]

Then your a disgrace to woman by making things up that actually dont happen

Wow you are really going for it today, way too personal

[LukeB]

She makes pauline look like jesus.

:worship:

[Denver]

How vile

So they can say it to me but i cant say it back? Is that not double standards? I find it rude i was accused of sexism

[MrWong]

All he said was she should be carefull going into a bathroom alone with a man with just a robe on and nothing underneath which is true

Where have i said that?

You are suggesting that it's normal for a man to expose a womans breast uninvited in that situation.

[Denver]

You are suggesting that it's normal for a man to expose a womans breast uninvited in that situation.

Stop making up lies for god sake i said she should be careful going into a bathroom with a man without anything under the robe where does that say i said she deserves it?

[aj2463]

She needs to take her 'Loose Women' hat off and just chill the heck out