Alexandner and Chloe's conversation

[InOne]

Was really weird. I thought she got a bit patronized and probably made her feel quite awkward and rubbish. Yes he did it in quiet calm manner but it seemed passive aggressive and controlling. Especially after the whole Jeremy thing.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, It was a bit but maybe he's uncomfortable himself? If that's the case I guess he's entitled to say something to her?

[InOne]

Yeah, It was a bit but maybe he's uncomfortable himself? If that's the case I guess he's entitled to say something to her?

Cami seems a lot worse for wearing next to nothing than her though

[jaxie]

I think he was just trying to make her aware she was flashing a lot when getting changed. Maybe be noticed someone ogling her, maybe he just felt uncomfortable. I don't think his intentions were badly placed.

[jaxie]

Cami seems a lot worse for wearing next to nothing than her though
She's a lot younger than CAMI, maybe he feels more protective towards her. Maybe he has kids the same age?

[InOne]

She's a lot younger than CAMI, maybe he feels more protective towards her. Maybe he has kids the same age?

He does going by what he said.

[Gusto Brunt]

And remember it was more or less the same advice KEN gave to her, but with Alexander she didn't looked shocked or cause a stir. :rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

He didn't want her to get dressed in front of him, as nice as her arse is maybe he was a bit uncomfortable it being in his eyeline?
He was perfectly respectful and tactful when discussing it, I would say it was a perfect example of how to resolve an issue between housemates.

[InOne]

But she's what 21/22? It's not that young. I don't get why people in their early 20's always seemed to get treated like babies in the house

[Gusto Brunt]

He didn't want her to get dressed in front of him, as nice as her arse is maybe he was a bit uncomfortable it being in his eyeline?
He was perfectly respectful and tactful when discussing it, I would say it was a perfect example of how to resolve an issue between housemates.

And perhaps it was this dressing and undressing which made a drunk Jeremy, FALSELY, to believe she fancied him.

[Kizzy]

And perhaps it was this dressing and undressing which made a drunk Jeremy, FALSELY, to believe she fancied him.

Well I wouldn't go that far, it's not the same thing at all really.

[MTVN]

Suppose he's just the traditional sort who doesn't think its proper for him to have a young woman flaunting herself in front of him, he doesn't feel like it's the sort of thing that he as a 61 year old man with a daughter Chloe's age should be witnessing. I think it was more for his benefit just asking that because he feels awkward about it she could take that into account, he wasn't saying that she was giving off the wrong impression or anything

[InOne]

He didn't want her to get dressed in front of him, as nice as her arse is maybe he was a bit uncomfortable it being in his eyeline?
He was perfectly respectful and tactful when discussing it, I would say it was a perfect example of how to resolve an issue between housemates.

He could also move as well though. Who's he to tell her where to get dressed.

[Gusto Brunt]

Well I wouldn't go that far, it's not the same thing at all really.

Well maybe she'd been doing that in front of Jeremy - like she did with Alexander - for a few days and he got the wrong impression.

[InOne]

Suppose he's just the traditional sort who doesn't think its proper for him to have a young woman flaunting herself in front of him, he doesn't feel like it's the sort of thing that he as a 61 year old man with a daughter Chloe's age should be witnessing. I think it was more for his benefit just asking that because he feels awkward about it she could take that into account, he wasn't saying that she was giving off the wrong impression or anything

Oh come on. He's hardly lived in a bubble all his life. 61 isn't even that old anymore.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I very much doubt she understood any of what he was saying and just went "yeah"

His voice is not the easiest to decifer

[chuff me dizzy]

He told her in a nice way,like a Dad would ,but she's not 10 she should know you shouldn't get undressed in front of strangers

[thinkingoutloud]

I think he was trying to help her, maybe it didn't come over in the right way (I don't think he's the best talker) but from what I could make of it he was giving her a bit of friendly advice. She should be able to get undressed where she wants, however if all these comments are bothering her so much you'd think she would do it privacy. Maybe she just loves the attention, who'd have thought it?

[MTVN]

Oh come on. He's hardly lived in a bubble all his life. 61 isn't even that old anymore.

Still makes him feel awkward and having a daughter that age will colour his view of it

[Niamh.]

Still makes him feel awkward and having a daughter that age will colour his view of it

I think that's understandable too tbh

[InOne]

Still makes him feel awkward and having a daughter that age will colour his view of it

But like I said before he can also move as well. I don't think we've seen what he's on about in the HL's though so it's a hard one to call. They could've at least done a flashback of it :pipe:

[Kizzy]

Well maybe she'd been doing that in front of Jeremy - like she did with Alexander - for a few days and he got the wrong impression.

That's not appropriate, the ' she was asking for it' view is not healthy.

[Gusto Brunt]

That's not appropriate, the ' she was asking for it' view is not healthy.

You said that, not me. Nobody deserves sexual assault.

[Kizzy]

He could also move as well though. Who's he to tell her where to get dressed.

That was one option, but he chose to have a word about it like an adult. And she considered and accepted those comments.

[InOne]

That was one option, but he chose to have a word about it like an adult. And she considered and accepted those comments.

I don't think she really knew what to say. She looked bewildered.

[achro]

He couldn't control his Christian erection, so decides to shift the responsibility to someone else.

[Jules2]

He could also move as well though. Who's he to tell her where to get dressed.

He was just giving her advice as any father figure would do. He has daughter/s, the proof was in the pudding look what happened with Jeremy and how upset she was. If they have to live together for a while they need to consider everyone. Didnt the women have a go at the men for weeing in the toilet? A right old fuss instead of being discrete and saying "now look here could we please...." So dont wee and be more discrete then noone will get upset or misunderstood. Good advice on everyones part. Less arguments and less Nadia and Perez being in so called control.

Well done Alex, tactful and to the point.

[Jules2]

He couldn't control his Christian erection, so decides to shift the responsibility to someone else.

Responsibility in the right place, the source along with the others. He obviously had control to be able to discuss it with her.

[Jules2]

Oh come on. He's hardly lived in a bubble all his life. 61 isn't even that old anymore.

Yes but in his eyes she wasnt safe from remarks and actions by others as we have found out. To me it was a lot of fuss over nothing and Jeremy shouldnt have been ejected, a misunderstading which I am sure Chloe didnt expect that result. As was pointed out to her by Michelle in a very crafty way, Jeremy was drunk. So we are two down because of useless actions and remarks. Better to be armed and know the reasons why then it is up to the individual.

[rionablue]

[QUOTE=InOne;7477956]Was really weird. I thought she got a bit patronized and probably made her feel quite awkward and rubbish. Yes he did it in quiet calm manner but it seemed passive aggressive and controlling. Especially after the whole Jeremy thing.[/QUOTE

I thought it was ok in the context of what Ken had been saying etc. He called her over, gave her a bit of advice, seems he has a daughter her age and she said Ok that's kool. She didn't look in the least awkward as she walked back to where she had been

[rionablue]

That's not appropriate, the ' she was asking for it' view is not healthy.

I agree Kizzy

[Liam-]

I think it was quite a nice moment on Alexander's behalf, it made me like him even more.

I saw it as a father of girls around Chloe's age, not wanting to see a young girl be ogled at, he even said 'I turn away' when she gets dressed, it was the best way to tell her that she's free to do whats he wants, but to be more aware of her surrounding while doing so.

Good on him, a genuinely nice guy :clap1:

[GiRTh]

He was tactful and respectful to CHloe addressing a personal issue unlike Ken who insisted on talking to Chloe while the whole house was present.

[Kizzy]

I don't think she really knew what to say. She looked bewildered.

That's just her normal stunned mullet face :laugh:

[Cherie]

He was tactful and respectful to CHloe addressing a personal issue unlike Ken who insisted on talking to Chloe while the whole house was present.

I think in view of what happened with Jeremy it was wise to have the whole house present. :joker:

Can't really see the difference myself, Alexander told her to rethink undressing/dressing in front of strangers,

Ken told her to be a bit more self aware and not put herself in a compromising position with strangers especially if they protray themselves as loose cannons as Jeremy did.

Result
Alexander being given a Knighthood
Ken lambasted and called all sorts

:joker:

[GiRTh]

I think in view of what happened with Jeremy it was wise to have the whole house present. :joker:

Can't really see the difference myself, Alexander told her to rethink undressing/dressing in front of strangers,

Ken told her to be a bit more self aware and not put herself in a compromising position with strangers especially if they protray themselves as loose cannons as Jeremy did.

Result
Alexander being given a Knighthood
Ken lambasted and called all sorts

:joker:The way they said it pays a large part. Alex took her one side and was more like a father the way he was stroking her arm and comforting her. Ken was just crude and much more blunt.

[Dollface]

The girls shouldn't be getting changed in front of the men anyway (i wouldn't because i wouldn't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable and some people do find nudity(or partial nudity) uncomfortable)
I think the way Alexander confronted her was fine, he clearly was looking at it from a fathers point of view

[Caballo]

I think in view of what happened with Jeremy it was wise to have the whole house present. :joker:

Can't really see the difference myself, Alexander told her to rethink undressing/dressing in front of strangers,

Ken told her to be a bit more self aware and not put herself in a compromising position with strangers especially if they protray themselves as loose cannons as Jeremy did.

Result
Alexander being given a Knighthood
Ken lambasted and called all sorts

:joker:


This ^^^^^

[Kizzy]

The way they said it pays a large part. Alex took her one side and was more like a father the way he was stroking her arm and comforting her. Ken was just crude and much more blunt.

Come on, you're moving the goal posts a bit now... so he didn't sugar coat it big deal!

[Cherie]

The way they said it pays a large part. Alex took her one side and was more like a father the way he was stroking her arm and comforting her. Ken was just crude and much more blunt.

Crude? In what way was what he said crude, they have known each other less than a week he told her straight, Alexander might have taken the user friendly approach but the advice boiled down to the same thing.